Which Platform Fighter Dies Next Tier List 

You know, I think Brawlhalla survives because it doesn't do the one thing a lot of these dead platform fighters were doing... It's not trying to be Smash Bros

The Rivals of Aether Workshop community is very much still alive at the very least. The community is still consistently creating new and unique characters, participating in Mod Jams, and even holding its own Workshop tournaments. For the workshop alone, I’d say this game will stay alive years into the future, even after Rivals 2 releases!

Brawlhalla works and survives because it has a unique form of combat with the weapons system, like you said it has a massive esports scene. Yes it is floaty but the dash and gravity cancel mechanics make it so it feels fast and allows you to take advantage of being in the air. It survives on being different than smash or other platform fighters

I been playing brawlhalla for over 5 years, its a really fun game once you get used to the gameplay and weapon system they use.

i dont think ultimate will die. its very difficult for a game on that scale to die. brawl and ssb4 were riddled with their own problems, but ultimate is like melee's younger brother. It wont die for a while

when i first tried brawlhalla, i had the same impression that it was super floaty and the gameplay didn’t seem very well put together. But the game has a lot of movement mechanics such as dash, dash jump, chase dodging, gravity cancels and more that make it in my opinion one of the most fast paced and skill based platform fighters. i think you should give it a second shot.

I don't really think Rivals 2 will kill Rivals 1. The sequel will use 3D models, so making custom characters will be harder and as a result there will be less high quality characters. As someone that plays RoA only for the workshop, I'm not really sure if I'll buy the sequel at launch

"Nickelodeon was doomed the second Multiversus came out" **proceeds to put Nickelodeon as less dead than Multiversus**

The thing keeping brawlhalla alive is the competitive potential. As you said, the game is very esports oriented, and is balanced around high level gameplay. Not only that, but there is a whole new method of control at play, that being weapon control. Unarmed is fast, but gets easily beaten by many weapons, which can really easily be capitalized on by having stage control (which automatically rewards you with weapon control if you knock your opponent's weapon out of their hand) or weapon starving (the act of throwing away your weapon and picking up every drop, leaving your opponent unarmed, though this is generally frowned upon). The game can also be pretty fast paced at times, depending on weapon matchup. The game's core design element (that being weapons) also leads to every character being tournament viable, unlike the smash games, where you have about 10-15 characters at most with any hope of good placements. You can play whoever you want to the same extent as anyone else, which means you could meet a different character every single game. The only problem really is the combo game, as weapons usually have about 2-3 true combos that can build up damage/kill, while frame 1 dodges make them an absolute necessity if you don't want to catch multiple dodges. However, frame 1 dodges are the only thing keeping scythe at check, as its whole concept is strings you do while catching dodges. Overall, the game is well balanced, and has a thriving competitive scene, which ultimately keeps (and most likely will for a long time) it alive and engaging. Brawlhalla is one of the most fun games I've ever played, even if I only have about 800 hours on it.

If Ultimate ends up being the only Smash with every character ever released in one game it'll never die.

On Sakurai's RU-vid channel he said that he wouldn't release another smash game for a while especially because there's no development teams available to work, but also because he said that he wanted to work on a new or original project for his next game. I don't think ultimate will die, not for a long time, since this is the first smash game with every character and Sakurai said they won't do this again for a really long time, so until we get something like this again, ultimate will live

Brawlhall feels floaty and loose as a beginner but when you get to a skill level that mandates tighter movement the game actually has a lot of tech skill and interesting mechanics, like spending your defensive option (dodge) to do a grounded attack in the air

On the subject of Smash Bros. Ultimate, it depends on if the next game has all, or at least most of its characters from Ultimate. If it does, I can see it surpassing Ultimate, and thus Ultimate dying. If the next game does lack enough characters from Ultimate, then I can see Ultimate staying alive for a fine while longer.

Personally I think brawlhalla will never die, you have to understand that it is a huge game, it’s really big on steam alone, but it’s been released for every major console with cross play enabled

The line of “NASB isn’t free to play still” implies that he believes platform fighters should be f2p. I’m sure he didn’t entirely mean this, but I hate that people think that, just because MVS is free, every other platform fighters that isn’t Smash should be f2p as well. It’s a small minority, but an annoying one.

I feel like Multiversus might have a shot if the devs end up fixing what was wrong with the game originally (bad netcode and content drought). The Warner IP is too big to consider it DoA.

I feel like I'm the only brawlhalla fan, still scythe and drill ruin the casual experience

the thing about brawlhallla is that once you get better it becomes really satisfying. like the off stage play can be really fun and wild. it makes games like smash bros feel like they have training wheels on with there non existent off stage play.

Brawlhalla isn't dying because the devs actually care about the community. I believe like 1/3 of the dev team are hired from the community such as Lead Designer, Lead Combat Designer, Community Manager, Video Editors, Illustrators, Tourney Organisers and Casters. The game is just a huge passion project of the entire community. Sponsored weekly community tourneys, great servers and constant improvements and updates. They've just added dash changes that make the game super fast and are working on backdash changes that will make it even faster.

Rivals of Aether is famous for its workshop and how unique the custom characters are

Here's my COUNTER hot take about ultimate: I don't think the future smash games are going to live up to its roster, I heavily doubt any future installments will continue "everyone being here." Smash ultimate will be the only smash game, at least for a long time, to have every character in one place up to that point in the series, and that's what will put it in the same tier as melee. -plus you know, it's way easier to mod than melee so they can add future new characters retroactively as well-

The platform fighting scene is literally just Smash and Brawlhalla

Brawlhalla case -Easy to start and get good at it -Bunch of gamemodes -Great Esports scheme -Excellent 2v2 -Can play with a lot of friends -Customization -Crossover events -Free items(If you watch their tournaments on Twitch) I think some of this reasons can help you

I can tell you one thing right now, Ultimate is NEVER dying. With how much is in there, a roster that enormous and my god that player base, it's sticking around for a very long time. Also Plant Gang for life!!

Calling Rushdown Revolt a Melee clone is so brain dead it's insane

Nah you wrong for that Rushdown Revolt take. That game is far different from Icons. It adds a universal attack cancel mechanic allowing for fast paced gameplay which forces the player to adapt to di. This game also adds a burst to get the opponent off of you and instead of an air dodge the game has an airdash. Plus a good amount of the characters got altered movesets to be more original. Rushdown Revolt is much more than a copy paste of Melee

I’m kinda surprised that both Fraymakers and Rumbleverse weren’t included. I just assumed that Fraymakers died or is on the verge since I haven’t really heard anything about it after it was announcing stuff like assistant fighters like Peppino from PT and Rumbleverse legitimately died

I think Brawlhala is so successful due to it being available on cpu, counsel, and mobile devices

I think ult is gonna die if the next game is also a very good entry but if it doenst live up to ults sucess it might become like meele meele also almost died when brawl got released but survived because brawl kinda sucked Think same will go for ult

Btw Nickelodeon All Stars does now have voice-acting. I got it a while back and it was updated.

imo, rushdown revolt feels nothing like a "smash-clone". theres definitely sum things that make it way different like that spark cancel mechanic thing and the way health works. i think its cool 🤷🏽‍♂🤷🏽‍♂

Give brawlhalla another chance, the gameplay is really interesting

There was a recent Brawhalla patch that added a movement feature called a "land cancel dash" that makes the movement much faster and more high paced that I believe will keep the game thriving for a long time.

I like Brawlhalla because all the other games have to much flashy light that blind people from detail and in brawlhalla its more simple and you can appreciate the small details they put on each character

idk if brawlhalla is gonna die since they still update the game, and the gameplay is really fun

I doubt you’ve played rushdown revolt before since it’s one of the most unique platform fighters I’ve played. It has a health bar but there’s 4 different parts of it that each have their own amount of knock back. The game also has insane combos since you can cancel any move with an air dash. It doesn’t feel that comparable to melee at all

Damn the fact that All Stars Battle Royale isnt even on the list shows how dead it is lol

If floaty means sluggish, then it's the complete opposite. Brawlhalla is a really fast paced game. The weapons system is great, and weapon throwing is a really cool mechanic which lacks in other games.

I’d put Multiversus in risk of dying since it’s supposed to be coming back

rushdown revolt is litterally no where close to being like smash, wdym??? Different health system, has the spark system for insane combos letting you cancel anything into anything and giving access to super jumps and boomarangs, you can move with one sided shielding, wall jumps for every character, more in depth kits compared to smash, and an entire burst system where you can burst out of combos with a blue burst and combo extensions with red burst, and probably more that I'm forgetting about because I don't play it often. The reason that game is essentially dead is because of the lack of features for online play, like ranked and a not so buggy lobby system. The devs did a great job at creating a unique platform fighter.

The Steam Workshop community alone proves Rivals of Aether will be immortal

Trust me, I'm a smash player, and I used to say brawlhalla was trash until I really sat down and gave it a try. After understanding the mechanics then I realised the game is a masterpiece.

I really hope when mvs comes back out people start playing it because I really really liked it. It's definitely one of my favorites.

I think rush rev should be at risk, it has a lot of new mechanics and stuff, it’s not just a melee clone

Rivals will never die as long as there’s more anime characters to put in it

Biggest issue with Brawlhalla in my opinion is that the skill floor is so low that for first time players (especially to people who are well inside the FGC loop.) it comes across as slow, awkward and pretty weird. Brawlhalla’s higher level play is actually super fast paced and not also as floaty as most think.

I hate to break it to you, but Smash is not getting another popular game. At least not as popular as Ultimate or Melee because Sakurai is NOT making another game. He has said how absolutely miserable his life has been pumping out six (including Wii U/3DS) Smash games. Sakurai was forced to make Melee and found out it was coming out the same time as every fan in the crowd at that convention. He almost passed out at the gym during the time he was finishing Ultimate’s second DLC. He says he’s done with Smash which leaves the possibility fans won’t play much. Other than Geno, many are satisfied with Ultimate, and Sakurai has said he wonders how Smash will continue without him.

Low rank brawlhalla gameplay is indeed floaty. Once you reach gold+, it becomes the fastest, most competitive, skilled platform fighter imo. The only benefit you gain from swapping characters are potential base stats and kill options/signatures. Super fun to play with friends

Super Smash Bros Brawl is definetly not dead, the mod community keep that game alive, the same definetly don't happen with Smash 4. i doubt it will with Smash Ultimate, even though there are a lot of cool mods, is not to the level of Brawl, i don't know if it ever will. Ultimate could die if the next game completely overshadow everything Ultimate have, like Ultimate did with Smash Wii U killing it (People still come back to 3ds for Smash Run, but other than that, nobody plays it that much either).

Dko risk of dying because no dev Meanwhile tf2: Laugh out loud

6:40 “every other character is completely forgettable” shows the mc of hyper light drifter on screen 😢

Ive been playing brawlhalla for many years ive grinded the ranks of many fighting games out of entertainment and ive never had more joy or satisfaction from the joy of climbing a leaderboard or making friends through a game, some of which ive met in real life as a result. Crazy how something i did in middle school evolved into something beyond having 2 hours of free time. The saying "get good" made me get good and question what it means to be perfect in a fighting game as a result. Nothing in this world can truly be perfect, but in a well balanced fighting game like brawlhalla, its hard to tell if Queen Nai is objectively worse than Mordex, and no game has an offstage thatll get your heart going like brawlhalla once you "get good"

Rushdown revolt plays nothing like Icons or Melee. It still has an active discord and Tournaments

Honestly Multiverse just needs to give you other things to do aside from versus matches. A better arcade mode, possible campaign, sides modes like some mini-games & or other competitve modes. A reason to keep coming back to it. Also just lower the prices to a much more reasonable amount, but this is Warner Bros we're talking about so don't count on it. Very achievable on their end, certainly easier than redoing their game from scratch like Nick did. lol

Brawlhalla is goated, would play 1v1 to get what the game is about

I think Rivals 2 is different enough from Rivals 1 for it to still have an active player base. Rivals 2 adds back what Rivals took away from smash, but reworking them to stay unique. I also don't think Steam Workshop will be a thing for Rivals 2, at least not for a while, because its MUCH harder for people to make characters with 3D assets, so Rivals 1 would still be more accessible in that regard.

Rivals of aether having the widest collection of characters and giving you the time of your life:

i really like flash party but the fact that ranked mode has pay to win power ups makes it not fair at all

I see ultimate being an undying game, only if the next smash game doesn’t outdo it by returning all fighters including the dlc, but to be honest that’s a lot of IPs.

Great video, interesting to see how platform fighters are doing, also W Brawlhalla Mentioned

Who’se gonna tell him Melee has been dead for like 3 years now

Brawlhalla is my second most played steam game

WAIT WAIT WAIT. Rushdown Revolt, seriously look into it. It doesn't play like any other platform fighter at all, it's got health bars and every move has sorta dash cancels out of every hit they make. The game is nuts. There's gonna be a bracket at Riptide. I would not write the game off.

Brawlhalla ain’t dying any time soon. Has one of the most active e-sport scenes, huge population with crossplay, free to play, bunch of skins coming out every couple months. Also it’s the most balanced platform game I’ve ever played. Also if you watch how the pros or diamonds play the game it’s completely different. Once you master the dash cancels and dash jumps it’s not floaty and it’s very fast paced. It’s cool. Play brawlhalla.

Brawlhalla will never die I think

Now Ultimate is in Risk of Dying

Wow, this guy is actually pretty underrated, watching your career with great interest!

Once you get a hang of the mechanics Brawlhalla is easy to understand, but once you get into the higher skill ceiling the difficulties in techs, combos, movement, etc. becomes a little more broad. That definitely helps it stay alive, but another thing is the crossovers. Aang, Zuko, and Toph from Avatar. As of today SpongeBob, Patrick, and Sandy from SpongeBob. Fin, Jake, and Princess Bubblegum from Adventure Time. Ryo, Ken, Chun Li, Akuma, M. Bison, Sakura, Dhalsim, and Luke from Street Fighter. Freaking RAYMAN as his own character. Out of those characters that have been listed you could play a few in MV, NASB, or Smash, but in Brawlhalla you can play as all those characters and plus some from the same series they come from. What's more is excluding a few(Rayman and Ezio), they're cosmetics (Heck, Dhalsim is a crossover for rayman and alucard from Castlevania is a Ezio crossover). So you get the visual appeal of playing as one of your favorite characters while also being able to still comprehend familiar signatures. While those characters are bound to their respective games and can't mix, Brawlhalla acts as that connection to all these characters. If one game slowly starts to die, you can always go to Brawlhalla to play the characters you liked. And I didn't list ALL the crossovers, there are so freaking many. People wanted to see Ben 10 in MV, guess what, you can play as Heatblast, Diamondhead, and Fourarms! It's crazy to imagine that you can have Snake Eyes (GI Joe), Po (Kung-fu Panda), SpongeBob, The Undertaker (WWE), Leonardo (TMNT), and MASTER CHIEF, YES THAT MASTER CHIEF FROM HALO, in the same game. You get original characters and wildly known characters.

Bruh how you put Multiversus as dead ☠️ but Nickelodeon All Star Brawl at only risk of dying? It’s even more dead. So dead that the developers just released the trailer for a sequel only two years after the original because there was no chance of reviving it since when they did finally give it updates it should have had to begin with nobody cared.

hopefully NASB2 fixes some of those problems in NASB1. it already looks promising asf and its more polished too so its probably gonna be alive for a long yome

Flash Party is actually fun but is pay to win, extremely pay to win, pay to fast, pay to unlock, pay to progress, pay to be more powerful, pay to have an opportunity to earn a skin, pay to everything

The fact that SSF2/Fraymakers aren't in the list should say how dead they are.

I think Ultimate has staying power as the second most competitive Smash title and its sheer roster size. Honestly, if the next smash game somehow, against all expectations, BEATS Ultimate in terms of roster size and coherency, then it deserves to live longer. Until then, Smash Ultimate will stick around imo.

Brawlhala is my favorite game of all time. it’s simply perfect.

i imagine this was released before the announcement that Nick All-Star Brawl 2 is coming

If Ultimate is gonna be the last smash game ever made, then it’s certainly gonna be unkillable as well as Melee

mango and zain will be 60 years old and still be playing melee in a gas station

That felt like and unfair arguement for Rushdown Revolt, it was original enough and its not a bad game acctually 😅

2:46 Welp there’s a sequel

Nickelodeon all star brawl should be placed in the Already dead category since the sequel has been announced so no one is gonna play the original game anymore.

Nickelodeon Allstars 2 was confirmed by the way. They might redeem themselves? Also I don't think Smash Ultimate is going to die unless Sakurai somehow makes a new Smash game that has just as much content as Ultimate. But honestly I don't really see him making a new one. How do you one up this one legally? I say legally because the mod community loves to just tamper with games add all kinds of stuff. Rivals of Ather is fun. Probably the only other platform fighter I play besides Smash.

Did you actually play Rushdown Revolt? Its smash bros × guilty gear, not a melee clone. Im begging yall to play something else in this genre without mario in it

I'm honestly real surprised rivals of aether is not that populated. I do find some matches but only 1 on 1. The game is pretty fun and with the whole mod support makes it even better. So many people created really cool characters on it

Can you do a tier list for traditonal fighting games next, such as streetfighter, GGST, etc.

3 things that are inaccurate 1: Icons didn't die because it was too similar. It died because the devs didn't have any money to keep developing for it. 2: Legacy wasn't made to keep the game alive it was a swan song release when they began to work on Rushdown. The original icons had pay walls for some of the new characters legacy is free and removed the pay walls 3: Rushdown has a very active player base, and it's VERY different from smash Bonus 4th: 64 is also not dead

Ultimate will Probaly never due to if they release a new smash there’s a very high chance it will have less characters then ultimate kind like how marvel vs capcom 2 is still alive

5:56 "despite the fact that it has every single character in existence" *Among Us left the chat*

Brawl died due to the less competitive nature of the physics. 4 died because Ultimate was better 4. Smash 4 had a 4 year lifespan before Ultimate was released. Ultimate is currently on Year 5 with no new Smash game in sight.

You HAVE TO play Rushdown Revolt! I can tell that you didn’t really bother to play it (which is understandable, even I wasn’t too convinced it would be anything different than Icons), but it is one of the most unique platfighter to exist. Seriously, there are almost no moves that resemble Smash ones. I recommend hitting the training mode and messing around. Tho I agree, the game is almost dead it still has a chance.

brawlhalla not going anywhere

Smash Ultimate says what it is in the title. It’s the ultimate Smash game. It has everything, it has the most polished mechanics, it is the last Smash that Sakurai will make. Yes, Nintendo will make more Smash games, but without Sakurai’s connections and passion for fighting games, subsequent Smash games will have smaller rosters, and knowing Nintendo, gameplay gimmicks that make the game less fun from a fighting game perspective.

I've played dko, and I can firmly say that although it's fun, it has a really small playerbase, if not absent in Europe

Keep it up your a great RU-vidr

I like rivals of aether a lot because it can really do alot and alot of endless things that other can’t do unless they do the same that’s why I love rivals of aether cause of mods especially missing no which actually bugs your game and probably cool fighters sonic mixed with junio and modern version and springtrap

I think because of the everyone is here thing that means that it would be more competitive and accessible for everyone which means it could have a competitive and casual audience

Rushdown revolt is actually really good, and is very different to smash even if it’s a platform fighter with really unique mechanics, it seems like you didn’t even give the game a chance or even played it tbh.

Both Smash bros are obviously dead they had 0 players on the steam charts.

Brawlhalla will be there for us non-smash haver

I’m honestly quite surprised that Fraymakers wasn’t on this list since the game ain’t out yet.

Brawlhalla is either never dying or is safe imo because it does what smash bros does but in its own kind of unique way whilst adding interesting new mechanics such as gravity cancelling or dodging