Which Speaker did I like BEST for My Home Stereo System for Budget Under 2000? 

And you preferred..?

that's the bargain of the century

I had Boxers (V1) and often regret getting rid of them, but when you look at the lightweight box and fairly standard drivers, I can't figure out why they cost so much. I think Carl could have taken over the market if they'd been a little cheaper.

Indeed, R2R ladder dacs in pariticular usually eliminate digital glare that many delta sigma dacs have.

How do you compare them to evoke 20? Which one is better for a small living room?

Do you think Chris Rea would sound good on the KEF? I'm thinking of his old hits ...

Spot on the kef which I’ve owned for 3 years are not really hifi speakers they are far to pushed in the middle and they train you to compensate for this characteristic. The Dynaudio do a better job of giving you a real world accurate representation of what the recording sounds like. I have owned a studio for 30 years and I thought I wanted the LS50 sound because of using Yamaha NS10 monitors for years but I was wrong..

@@livestreamsuk6004sorry but you are wrong about the meta’s. The original LS50’s were too boosted from 1K-3K Hz, the meta’s are much better. The frequency graphs show an almost flat response

What amplifier you have with the evokes?

ATC, PMC and Spendor are all solid choices

​@@ralex3697but they don't do well with all genres of music. Exactly where Dynaudio shines...

​@@ralex3697proac?

bonjour j'ai evoke 10 mon set up principal dans petit salon de 20 m2 je sais pas entre le Hegel h 95 et le h 190 ??? les evoke 10 ont besoin de grosse alimentation. merciiii

give you example for few vintage loudspeakers will be pleasent to hear metal music by pair of Audax; Montreuil A360 ,TECHNICS SB-CS65 , and SB-C450 , and finally the pair that I'm using right now Transonic: Life TL400

EQ

what cables did you use, if you remember?

Not yet but I think I might soon !

Yes. So as you the Evoke might sound more enganging when you have a sparkling class AB amplifier. So I am considering Evoke 10 with a Rega amp.

Would love to know what your setup is currently!

please recommend me some metal. I haven't listened much since high school

All speakers sound terrible with metal music, there is no musicality just annoying noise

Have the same music preferences. Please tell me your speaker choice for today

@@ralex3697 I carried an M16 and you listen to that, that, heavy metal! Whats wrong with you? Who are you? What do you want to do with your life?

Sorry, but you are wrong … plain and simple

@@simplereef4854 how would you know what he sees?

No they go up to Blades

@@pureblood8307 some do, but I've seen people trade Blades for Confidence models

Same boat, but from Metas to Heritage Special :)

Could you please tell a little more about how the Special 40's sound in comparison to the LS50? Amount of detail, soundstage, imaging etc.

@@felipencl I fell the SP40 have a more laid back sounding, with a more focused and deeper soundstage. In my opinion, LS50 have a more forward sound and 3d imaging. In terms of detail, both are great speakers, but SP40 have a more juicy and sweet treble. The biggest difference is the bass. SP40 sound like floorstandars with fast and punchy bass.

@@felipencl Special 40s are more resolving, but LS50 Meta has more precise imaging, although the difference is not night and day. Soundstage is where the differences are most noticeable, as the two speakers have a different presentation all together. LS50 Metas has a more 'spherical' soundstage, with forward vocals. SP40 is deeper and more neutral. For my system, I have a pair of Heritage Specials, paired on the analog side with a tube phono stage. The tubes bring you 'into' the sound stage (Similar to the metas! but not with super forward vocals), with the feel that you can walk into the stage. Being able to drastically change the staging with my Dyns is the best of both worlds imo! (I upgraded from LS50 Metas) The biggest benefit of the LS50 Metas over my HS (and SP40 too) is that their off-axis listening is much better, although this doesn't matter too much unless you listen frequently with many people. tldr: metas: more precise imaging, forward mids, smaller stage. SP40: not as precise imaging, neutral presentation, deeper and wider stage Hope this helps

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How do you compare evoke to the contour I was considering buying the contour 20i

Different price brackets

I don't think so , Bight as a term means fewer details in the low side of music so wither you apply or turn off treble you still have the lean flat spectrum

Or just buy some good speakers !

Just use EQ? Not expensive enough. 😂

Did you place the Dali's like they recommend?

@@FSXgta yeah, at this point I have a certain way of presentation in my mind to achieve lustening to trash metal. This is how I achieved. Otherwise I enjoi dalis with yamaha with other genres. I think yamaha's transients r too soft and decays of frequencies r long so it is good for mellow stuff ( anything other than trash metal).

@@FSXgta Dali, for all they do well, some things they don't. Not talking genre but they could be more transparent at those levels.

I had the previous model AS 1100 and it was also way to bright the tone adjustments on Yamaha were little to no effect. I purchased a REL sub it helped but still too bright and then i switched to Polk r700 floor speakers that helped by 50% improvement. More recently i installed 2 Emotiva mono blocks via pre-outputs. Just using the Yamaha as a pre-AMP. With this last change it really sounds so much better amazing sound stage and no longer annoying top end or hurting my ears with brightness. Sad that my old vintage receiver which cost thousands less had better tone controls.

Some analytical tubes like KT88 should be a great pairing. The designers of the Confidence line love running them with tubes

I know a lot of people like Hegel, some say is neutral-sounding, personally I find it to be a tad laid back. Although many folks have no qualms in pairing up Hegel with Dynaudio, for my personal preference I am not keen on such a pairing. In my opinion, ideally you need something a bit more punchy and dynamic to drive most Dynaudios to make them sound best. For example, I am currently using a Roksan Blak to drive a pair of Evoke 50.

Try some Evoke 10 or 20 with your Hegel H120. You’ll be surprised what these speakers and that Hegel amp can do (made me smile and feet tapping…). I think you will be dissapointed if you change your Hegel with NAD.

@@klaverro why do you think I would be disappointed with the NAD C399?

@@hclandscapes difference in sound. IMO, Hegel has got more dynamics, drive and a natural sound then the NAD. But always trust your own ears before you buy.

Elac Vela 403's high frequency/air/spaciousness is still un-beat to this day as far as I am concerned. However, it is light on bass/sub-bass and not at all an all-around speaker. It really depends on what you are going after. Some people love AMT tweeters and what they provide when implemented correctly OR some people can't stand it.

@@Jayiyagi thanks for your comment. I could not be happier for my Vela 403 purchase so far indeed!

Just to be clear, are you referring to integrated amps or speakers or both?

Willie, let me offer you a different perspective. It is actually quite easy for the "average Joe" to watch a couple reviews and purchase a system from crutchfield or Best Buy consisting of readily available products from the likes of KEF, Polk, B&W, NAD, Denon, Yamaha, etc... and end up with a totally satisfactory system. They all make good sound, none is really that much worse than the other, just different. The only way you could ever know if there's something that you like better than what you have is by performing comparisons in your room. If I told you that three different brands of sparkling water all tasted a little different you might not believe me until I pour three different glasses of water for you. Then you might be able to describe the subtle differences in carbonation and minerality and pick a favorite. However, they will all quench your thirst and if only one was available you would probably be fine. As for descriptors, it really is subjective. but rolled off refers to a frequency response. If something rolls off it attenuates (can roll off low or high freqs) and it usually refers to the high frequencies rolling off at the extremities, ie less treble. warm usually means a little bit of a fatter, richer sound, probably due to some combination of a subtle accentuation of the upper bass frequencies and attenuation of the upper mid frequencies. Bright means more treble information, dark means less treble information. these are very general explanations but try messing around with the eq on your system or in your car with these words in mind and see if it makes any sense. Good luck.

I can see both sides. Yes, there are so many more choices than there use to be and because of that lots of us have to rely on reviewers for info vs being able to audition systems. Most of us start w/ stats and measurements and piece together a system they’re happy with. Then there is some of us, me included, who start tinkering and learn more about how speaker placement, setup and how room treatment can really effect sound quality along with a bunch of other factors like equipment matching for your preferred sound. What Jay excels at is people going to the next level and he speaks at a more advance level, imo, in terms of discussing his journey into sound. What’s great is you can pause, look up, rewatch anything that you don’t understand. I think it’s worth it because Jay is probably one of the best, most informative RU-vidrs out there right now in audio. I wish Jay would get into Home Theaters which is where most of my audio budget/time goes into, however, 2ch audio is the foundation and the best place to start IMO.

@Fletcher Fortune Most of my friends probably dont really listen to music, they hear it.

If you refer to amps, you can buy a neutral amp with a flat frequency response for not much money. However, some manufacturers deliberately voice their amps. Personally I want a neutral amp, and not a sound dictated by the maker. As for speakers, there is no perfect speaker, so choice has to be subjective, and dependent on your room acoustics. There is no point accepting someone else’s opinion. Some people hate my speakers, some love them. However, you can get acceptable speakers for not that much money. Try them yourself, many shops allow demos.

Polk audio use cheap steel stamped drivers whereas dynaudio use high quality cast framed and better magnet drivers and probably a better buit cabinet

Inakustik LS-4004 Air

That's still my favorite

I’m using the totem hawk with an old warm Yamaha avr that’s rolled off on the top end. This pairing gave it amazing mid tones and it took off the fatiguing bright sound. Great imaging.

If you like distorted bass ! Otherwise add a sub, like your meant to.

Just ad a good small sub that rolls off from >50 Hz, improves the sound for real.

Those are DIY and not mainstream.

That’s a myth that you need a 100watts or more.. I drive them quite easily to ear splitting levels with an 80 watt Unison Research UNICO Primo, a 35 watt Marantz HD Amp 1, a 35 watt Yaqin MC-13s Tube Amp, a 50 watt Dayens Menuetto, and many others with absolutely no problem.. I don’t think you even own them spewing nonsense like that..

@@meutubedou people are stupid and just repeat what they hear.... Going from a 50 watt amp to a 100 watt amp gets you exactly 3db. That's it.