I cannot help but notice that the overall volume in the sound comparison is completely different between the two sets of speakers. You should normalize volumes when comparing anything that is audio related (just like you would do when comparing a compressed signal to the DRY signal while mixing a track). This is because our biggest well-known bias is the one that tends to favour louder sounding things in general, so... Just FYI.
I noticed the different levels. But power ratings can be misleading. Is it possible the HS8s are more efficient? And, I noticed more mid definition on the HS8s. This is something I've noticed generally on Yamaha monitors, and I like it.
I often see people comparing these monitors so when I wanted a new pair of 8 inch nearfields to my studio I figured I’d order all of them and A/B compare right where they’ll eventually would be used and this is my 2 cents: Focal Alpha 80 When I first opened the box and saw the monitors the first thing I noticed was that the panels that form the case werent perfectly alligned, some edges would stick out and it seemed like the box wasnt assembled with the attention to detail focal shapes are. To me that was barely a issue, I couldnt care less about what they look like. Now, the important part, the sound. They had a flat response but did lack a bit in the deep sub around 40-80hz. Above 80 hz the low end was very accurate and controlled. The mids were very impressive with a good sense of space and separation. They had great presence in the mid range. The highs and high mids sound amazing but they do have a slight hollow and metallic tone to them that some might prefer to really hear the sparkle and detail when working on vocals for example. Overall: They handle transients absolutely amazing. The stereo imaging is great. They are not that fun to listen to and thats because they excell at revealing what mixing decisions needs to be made. These are for mixing and nothing else. I would prefer these over the yams and Krks when working on less digital and bass heavy projects. Focals: 8.5/10 The Krk Rokit/RP8 Gen 4 Right out of the box you see those iconic yellow cones and this gen boasts knitted/braided kevlar drivers that look really cool. The ”box” feels extremely sturdy and well made. The sound: The deepsub between 35-100 sound amazing and upfront and thats probably because of the frontported sub. As were the focal and yams make you feel the sub, the krks gets you to hear them loud and clear. Around 120-200 hz the bass feels uncontrolled and give that car speaker like kind of bass response. Very bad for mixing but probably nice when youre composing and you want to get the vibe started. The mids sound good but the sense of space and separation isnt there, they lack clarity and give you a rumbly and dark sound. The highs are not good at all, high transients sound distorted, everything with a fast attack sounds like its clipping and the overall clarity and brightness isnt there even with the dsp eq on the back set to hype the 10khz and above. Overall: No bueno. The build quality and looks are far better than the other monitors but the sound is not good at all, they sound like a club PA system, if you are trying to improve your dj sets these might be the way to go but for producing and mixing these are pretty bad to be honest. They sound muffled almost as if you were listening to them from a room away Just my two cents Krk RP8G4: 6.5/10 The Yamaha HS 8 The yams look and feel well made but the adhesive put inside the cone is visible on the front. I dont mind but some might. The sound on these are amazing, very dynamic, they have punchy and precise sound and they handle all types of transients with ease. The stereo separation is great, the best out of the bunch, far better than the Krks and a (probably placebo) small edge over the Alphas aswell. The clear mids are indeed very clear, I wouldnt say they sound hyped in the highmids but the highs/mids are more upfront than the other monitors which result in a ”open” and clear sound. The bass is accurate and flat throught out the spectrum, very surgical and full but also punchy. Very nice low end. Overall: The yams rock a accurate and flat sound. They look professional, they sound professional. Amazing mids and highs, best bass response. Clear, open and good sense of width and depth. Not much to say, no aspect of them blew me away but more importantly nothing about them let me down. They are reliable, great sounding monitors and the pair out of the bunch that I prefer and will be keeping. Yamaha HS8: 9:10 Finalscore (remember these are my opinions) 1. Yamaha HS8 (9/10) 2. Focal Alpha 80 (8.5/10) 3. Krk Rokit 8 Gen 4 (6.5/10)
@@scottt9382 They go really low and deep if your source material provides that specturm. I have headphones that go sub sonic when needed (plus I'm not scoring film or TV which will go as now as 20hz) but I find the HS*s (or any well made 8" woofer monitor) can cover the full spectrum without coloring anything. But its subjective of course, next person might not mix without a sub. I just like everything coming from in front of me. I get way more accurate mixes this way.
oh and i've only noticed now something that was right in front of my nose, he is using a shotgun microphone... and the sound that we are hearing comes from the camera... doesn't make sense...
@@joaolopes04 I've had the krk rokit 7 g4s for 8 months and have just gotten some yam hs7 yesterday. Tested them side by side. I pref the krks overall sound with warm punchy bass, however the yams are deffo more clear in the mids & highs. Yam's Hs7 for producers Krks for dj'ing and generally listening to music on Spotify or SoundCloud etc.
@@joedjsymphony that is my doubt, some people say the KRK are really good, others the Yams... I know that in the end it’s my personal preference that counts, but I would like to have a truthful opinion about what monitor is better for me. In the begging I was about to buy the HS7, but then I saw some reviews of the RP7 G4 and I changed my ideas... I’m afraid that the Yams don't really give me a real bass perception and that it's too flat... In your opinion, you’ve changed the setup because you really need it because the feeling of the KRK wasn’t so truthful instead of the Yams and you really had to change them, or was only because “ok, let me see if they are really different”? PS: sorry for the long message.
Have been using the krk 8 for 5months now and trust me when I say it filters some bad frequencies, it basically hides the frequencies that needs to be removed, making it sound better and u wont know you have a bad mix until you listen to the track with headphones. I don't know why tho. Have had the opportunity to use the HS8 and its better with obvious reasons
I've auditioned both these monitors as well the 6.5 and 5 inch variants. I will tell you now both these 8s are pretty flat but sound very different from each other. In short the biggest difference is really the tweeter. On the yamaha it's an aluminum tweeter combines with a plastic woofer. Aluminum can be very revealing and sound great especially on any kind of drums due to both being metal. However the Yamaha tweeter has the standard aluminum ring. Over time it can get fatiguing. The krk uses a kevlar tweeter along with a kevlar woofer. If crossover design is of equal quality in both, the krks will have a more cohesive sound and sound closer to a single driver. also the tweeter is easier on the ears and sounds nothing like any metal or soft dome. There are no speakers on the market with a kevlar tweeter. It really is a unique design. And there are no monitors in this price range that use the same material for both woofer and tweeter. If you look at the frequency response graphs of both the big thing that shapes their sound is the tilt of the response. Krks are voiced to have the lower end tilt up and the yamahas are voiced to have the high end tilt up. This is partly what gives the krks a warm sound and partly what gives the yamahs a cold sound. I've listened to pretty much every studio monitor in this price range and have owned many pairs. In my opinion the krks are superior. There are no speakers studio or hifi that use a kevlar tweeter plus a matching kevlar woofer. This is a very unique design plus I prefer warmer sounding speakers.
@hyllzzz hyllzzz from my own perspective, Yamaha’s are better for mixing where they give a more flat and accurate response where I’ve heard people say that the KRKs have a slight bass boost to them which will allow the low-end to be inaccurate at times. I would definitely go with Yamaha’s.
Such a massive headache buying monitor speakers nowadays. So much range, so many opinions. All I can say is that I bought the KRK's and they are absolutely deadly. I'm extremely happy with them.
Nowadays all that matters is if you are happy, with your purchase. HS5 Rokit 5 whichever you buy. Your ears will adjust and get use to it. They are equally great products. I do agree there are some bad ones. But it shouldn't be a headache between rokit and yamaha. Just buy one of them, try them out. If you want, you can buy both, and send one back after trying them next to each other
I think people go a bit overboard with needing monitors to be flat. Every speaker has its signature sound. The most important thing is learning YOUR speakers. Regardless of which option you choose.
It’s for sound engineers who use these kind of speakers who need the closest thing to an unfiltered response from the speakers. So then the mix can be the best across all systems
Totally agree. I also think it's important to listen to a track through various sources. If most people listen to tracks through bass-heavy setups, why not mix for it?
OP, I am sorry but this is kind of deceiving advice and will do more harm than good to mixing newcomers. Flat speakers make a _huge_ difference in mixing. It's not placebo. Accurate monitors seriously cut down on the need to revise and listen to mixes on other setups multiple times.
I'm about to get one. I went to the store and listneded to the Hs7 for the first time. Man it sounded unbelievable. I listended to swizz beats - the half. It sounded like the bass was bouncing. Something I've never heard in that song before. I can't imagine how good the Hs8 must sound. I want it in white. The man in the store did not let me test it out becuase they didn't have it in stock. He kept on pushing me to get the hs7 so I left him to it xD the only thing that has stopped me getting them so far to complete my studio setup is the price. Is it really worth 500 pounds. Becuase when I think 500, its alot of money
@@EdwardSmithMusic Edward you are amazing man. I will order them first thing tomorrow morning. You made it 💯 for me. Real love from London 🇬🇧. Wish I can visit the US sometime too! Keep up the good work!! This is why your fans love you
@@meti9230 if you have the room and cash then go for the 8s. The depth added going from a 6.5 inch woofer to an 8 inch is huge. Way bigger difference then going from a 5 to a 6.5 since most manufacturers tune them for almost the same low end reach. Think about it, why would the 8s be out of stock?
I often see people comparing these monitors so when I wanted a new pair of 8 inch nearfields to my studio I figured I’d order all of them and A/B compare right where they’ll eventually would be used and this is my 2 cents: Focal Alpha 80 When I first opened the box and saw the monitors the first thing I noticed was that the panels that form the case werent perfectly alligned, some edges would stick out and it seemed like the box wasnt assembled with the attention to detail focal shapes are. To me that was barely a issue, I couldnt care less about what they look like. Now, the important part, the sound. They had a flat response but did lack a bit in the deep sub around 40-80hz. Above 80 hz the low end was very accurate and controlled. The mids were very impressive with a good sense of space and separation. They had great presence in the mid range. The highs and high mids sound amazing but they do have a slight hollow and metallic tone to them that some might prefer to really hear the sparkle and detail when working on vocals for example. Overall: They handle transients absolutely amazing. The stereo imaging is great. They are not that fun to listen to and thats because they excell at revealing what mixing decisions needs to be made. These are for mixing and nothing else. I would prefer these over the yams and Krks when working on less digital and bass heavy projects. Focals: 8.5/10 The Krk Rokit/RP8 Gen 4 Right out of the box you see those iconic yellow cones and this gen boasts knitted/braided kevlar drivers that look really cool. The ”box” feels extremely sturdy and well made. The sound: The deepsub between 35-100 sound amazing and upfront and thats probably because of the frontported sub. As were the focal and yams make you feel the sub, the krks gets you to hear them loud and clear. Around 120-200 hz the bass feels uncontrolled and give that car speaker like kind of bass response. Very bad for mixing but probably nice when youre composing and you want to get the vibe started. The mids sound good but the sense of space and separation isnt there, they lack clarity and give you a rumbly and dark sound. The highs are not good at all, high transients sound distorted, everything with a fast attack sounds like its clipping and the overall clarity and brightness isnt there even with the dsp eq on the back set to hype the 10khz and above. Overall: No bueno. The build quality and looks are far better than the other monitors but the sound is not good at all, they sound like a club PA system, if you are trying to improve your dj sets these might be the way to go but for producing and mixing these are pretty bad to be honest. They sound muffled almost as if you were listening to them from a room away Just my two cents Krk RP8G4: 6.5/10 The Yamaha HS 8 The yams look and feel well made but the adhesive put inside the cone is visible on the front. I dont mind but some might. The sound on these are amazing, very dynamic, they have punchy and precise sound and they handle all types of transients with ease. The stereo separation is great, the best out of the bunch, far better than the Krks and a (probably placebo) small edge over the Alphas aswell. The clear mids are indeed very clear, I wouldnt say they sound hyped in the highmids but the highs/mids are more upfront than the other monitors which result in a ”open” and clear sound. The bass is accurate and flat throught out the spectrum, very surgical and full but also punchy. Very nice low end. Overall: The yams rock a accurate and flat sound. They look professional, they sound professional. Amazing mids and highs, best bass response. Clear, open and good sense of width and depth. Not much to say, no aspect of them blew me away but more importantly nothing about them let me down. They are reliable, great sounding monitors and the pair out of the bunch that I prefer and will be keeping. Yamaha HS8: 9:10 Finalscore (remember these are my opinions) 1. Yamaha HS8 (9/10) 2. Focal Alpha 80 (8.5/10) 3. Krk Rokit 8 Gen 4 (6.5/10)
Was at Guitar Center and tested the yams (I’m calling them that form now on) today next to the Krks. I felt like the way they had them set up had the KRKs at a disadvantage, but I still felt the yams had more clarity. I mixed the song I tested on the Stiling MX5s which are pretty clean, just not much low end below 60Htz, but when I played it on the yams… MAN was it crisp. I didn’t have to strain to hear any low end. Now I just have to save as that is nearly an 800 dollar purchase unless I can get them cheaper… anyone wanna buy some MX5s? ;)
I took a favorite mix with me to compare these and hands down the Yamaha's HS-8 were the ones I thought had the better overall feel and sound. KRK's felt too squashed to me. Bought the pair of HS-8's and couldn't be happier for all my mixes from rock to EDM.
Just had a demo of both side by side. When in looking for the KrKs. But the yamahas just sounded better to me.. now I have to lean to the yamaha.. now I have to spend more..
At krk, I have the feeling that the speakers do not go much deeper in terms of bass and cut off at a certain point. Then I notice that yamaha continues and if that has a better flow, it could be me
you want to base your choice on Frequency Response the krk Rokit 8 G4 Frequency Response: 36Hz - 40KHz the hs8 Frequency range (-10dB): 38Hz - 30kHz this is why i think the krk range has been so poplar with people on a budget you get alot of bang for your buck
personally, when mixing, i prefer a flat frequency response. Thats the biggest thing that got me to buy HS8s vs the KRK Rokit 8 G4. Im not a fan of monitors that add low end. It sounds cool when your just listening to your music but for mixing I need to hear how everything sounds without color so i can get a mix that translates well.
But what is actually "flat" though?. EVery room is different. MUSIC based on listening. In most cases we do reference tracks. So my point is, just listen to the reference track and try to replicate if that is what you want
@@renesoleana1414 wait then what is the graphs for for each speaker and headphones they usually tell us if it's flat or close to flat and I know some of the higher headphones when you get into the $1,000 price range the companies make them unit by unit and not mass-produced so they do have a little bit of different characteristics and that's why when you buy them they usually come with a PDF file or an actual print out of what they tuned the headphones to and they show the graph
@@renesoleana1414Yes, but certain speakers are much more flat than others. Rokits make a fine secondary monitor but I'd never mix soley on mine. My KH120s are much more accurate and translate better. Please don't give out misleading information like you have. It will make noobs think that speakers/listening setup doesn't matter.
Hold on a minute …. I am almost for certain! He is using 2 different audio interfaces for these demos…. Krks are on a Scarlett and the other is obviously a bigger interface…. We all know higher priced interfaces have better definition in playback so I don’t see this as a good comparison what’s so ever
Well had the same but buyed the 8 ...if you buy the 5 and your not happy of the bass then youre fuckt...if you buy the 8 you dont have to put them all open and always can go to a bigger room with the 5's youll have to buy biggers when you have a bigger room so but 8 youll have enough reserves....
Very nice. I used to own the HS 50m-s and sold them I believe in 2014. Now I'm starting to miss them and I'm checking these out. I'm probably going to buy them. A friend of mine still has the HS 50s and he gave them to this electro wizzard to tweak them and you can not believe the difference. I believe he spend around 150 to 200 eur for the tweak but it's really audiable. The whole monitor pair just sounded so much better. As soon as I heard that tweek I had regrets about selling them LOL
I feel like I don't see many comments one major factor. The KRKs have front firing bass ports while the Yamahas have rear firing ports. I have a small room so my speakers are very close to the wall. Would that mean, for people in similar situations that you should go for the KrK? Cause won't the rear ports on Yamaha cause bass reflection?
I just received a brand new pair of Yamaha HS8 in August 2021. Wow! Amazing! Very transparent and accurate. It's like the sound is 3D. I think it is much better than the Mackie HR624 I had by the past. These monitors are good for any kind of music, including mastering, it tells the truth about your mix. I am not necessarily needing the subwoofer Yamaha HS8S, but I will buy it just for the pleasure to extend the bass response to 22 kHz. The whole kit is not that expensive and can compare easily with high-end systems costing much more. So I recommend these H8S without any reserve. Go for it at any time. It is that good.
@@EdwardSmithMusic can we use it for music listening and some casual movie and gaming? I m tired of regular hifi speakers which sound artifical to me...
@@JosephKarthic If the music is mastered poorly or has faults then hifi speakers will mask it but the Yamaha HS8'S will make it stand out really bad. If its mastered really good then the monitors will show this and your music will be enjoyable.
I love this video! This guy doesn't say at the end buy this or buy that. It all depends on what you want and what you have to work with. One producer uses Rokit the other uses yamaha. Both songs becomes viral. At the end it comes down to your ears
Love the low end with krk 8in. I use them for synths as well as other instruments. I did have the problem that's typical with Krk's though but was able to repair it myself.
Your levels between the 2 products are different therefore hard to compare. When doing a sound comparison, you need to make sure you level match the 2 pairs. However, I do have the Yamaha HS8 and I love them. They are really great. I also have the KRK's Rockit 8 2 and my son loves them but I can tell the difference between the 2 pairs. The Yamaha sounds much better to my ears.
noting wrong having big monitors in a small room the bigest mistak i made was down sizing 8inch for 6.5 inch in a small room take no notice if you making dance music you want to be able to hear whats going on in the low end which you cant do on small montiors and you lose so much detail and wideness on small monitors
A lot of people tend to prefer flatter response monitors but a lot of people mix bass heavy too. If that's what you're going for then awesome but too much bass can also spoil an otherwise solid mix.
@@EdwardSmithMusic thank you for the great content! You never disappoint us. The white Hs8 is the only thing left to complete my setup. But the only thing that has kept me waiting a little is the price. What do you think? Shall I go for it? :)
Tested the Yamaha and it just could not give me that hardcore punch which Krk 8 g4 gave.. I would say choosing between these two monsters is a matter of feeling.. Test them both then decide.. Sure, internet reviews are great and helpful but get your hands on both of them speakers before buying them... Your ears will never lie to you.!
Just To correct you a bit. The wattage has nothing to do with loudness (spl). It's about the sensitivity of the driver. So a 15 watt speaker can play louder than a 450 watt speaker if it has better sensitivity because it needs less watt to reach max spl. And if the spl of the driver is higher it takes just a few watts to play much louder!! 😊 Also note that the KRK is minus 10 db at 38hz which is not how most other manufacturers list specs. So on paper the low end might seem better but in reality the low end extension is not better as other will have a minus 3-6 db in the same range. But overall a good vid.. Thanks 😊 I'd choose the Yamaha any time of the day!
You might laugh now I tell you that I'm still using Yamaha MSP5s. I've always loved them. I am considering the upgrade to HS8s, but maybe my studio doesn't need anything bigger than 5s, and maybe I'm too basic as an engineer to need anything better. I practice and record a lot of digital piano and trumpet (jazz) in my studio, for semi-pro applications like demos and backing tracks. I really appreciate the strong mid definition I get on the piano, but I must be losing some low end. Does it matter? Dunno. Should I add a subwoofer instead? Opinions welcome. P.S. Are there any bass decay issues with either speaker in the review?
A lot have said when they got a sub it helped to get their low end spot on and this was hip hop producers and they know their stuff. The Yamaha hs8's will be idea for all you need as I have a Yamaha MODX 6 and it sounds amazing through these monitors. I've tried all genres of music and there is nothing they don't like.
I had a lot of monitors, but I returned everything to test the following ones. As a result, I can recommend KRK to everyone. They sound very clean, crisp, nice "aramid" top. And most importantly, they sound as similar as possible to what I hear in my 990 PRO.
The Yamaha sounds clearer and louder! The volume is way higher in the Yamaha's to compare with the KRK's! I will stay away from 3 and 5 inch cones if you want to hear bass you need a mimum 8 inches monitors no matter your room size (you don't mix at full volume!). Its more depending on your budget.
Ok… let’s address this. I’ve compared both in store, both are amazing. The KRK has “more power”, but loudness has a lot to do with speaker efficiency as well. Both are very good at filling a large room. The high end: Humans can hear sounds in the 20Hz-20,000Hz range. Yamaha’s 30,000 Hz is plenty. KRK’s 40,000Hz just becomes wtf. The difference between 34Hz and 38Hz on the low end for a monitor that will be on a stand or a table (possibly near field) probably wouldn’t be a determining feature for most. Anyone looking for lower frequencies would look at what subwoofer the company pairs with their monitors. KRK offers an 8” and a 10” sub for their monitors which brings low end down to 34 and 30 Hz respectively. Yamaha has the HS8 Subwoofer which has accurate frequency response down to 22Hz. For under $400. I’ll stick with my “older technology”. 😉
One thing that I hope is mentioned is how KRK speakers have a tendency to have _HORRIBLE_ noise come from them (electrical interference, static, buzzing, coil whine, .etc.) This is an enherent design flaw with many of KRK's speakers (especially older models like the G2.) It comes from poor shielding, cheap capacitors and "black gunk" spread across their internal components. Sad to see so many reviewers gloss over this.
Eddy thank you its now 6months still trying to decide on what monitors to buy this video right here was the best to convince me on what to buy ...il definitely go for the Yamaha ,..great video bruh !🤜🤛
I have bought some KRK monitors 5" black stealth edition, there's no problem listening to music while they play loud, but when I lower the volume, they shut off after a while, so I have to boost the volume again so they switch on. Is this type of function normal for these monitors?
The Yamaha HS8 are my favorite. Once you get them, you will never buy studio monitors again. A cheaper option are the adam audio T5V... they are also great - amzn.to/2K6Afiy
I wish I saw this video before I purchased the Rokit 8s 😒 seeing the comments made me realize the HS8s are better to mix with and that’s my main reason for buying new monitors
I don't know how the 8 inch rokit compares to the tri-amp 10 inch rokits which are practically midfields. But the 10 inch ones sound much better to mix than the hs8. I had always hated rokits (previous generations), until we got the 10 as electric drum monitors and notices they are an excellent tool to have in the studio even during mixing process. Hs8 lower mids are a bit scooped, which is an area you'd want to hear in a mix as it's one of the areas that can muddy a track. That paired along with treble emphasis can give you a false sense of clarity. Long story short, try the yamaha if you want, but you may have made the right purchase.
if you look at the specs of your speakers you will understand that no matter what you think about it, you are definitely missing frequencies. In particular, those which are under 35hz. What is interesting to understand is that the subwoofer, being adjustable, allows you to find frequencies that your main speakers are struggling to reproduce. For example ... Let's say your speakers go down to 38hz, to -6db. Therefore, you should understand that this is the limit offered by your speakers. It’s a "flaw", nothing less! So if your subwoofer is adjusted to fully restore dB at frequencies below those possible with your speakers, you get a fuller sound, and more faithful to the recording. But beware! Adjusting a subwoofer is a very delicate technique requiring a VERY developed ear. Question: What is YOUR reason for not using a subwoofer in your stereo listening?
I added a PreSonus Temblor T10 10 inch Powered Studio Subwoofer to my studio. I run Event Project Studio 6 inch as my main monitors, which are excellent for mindrange, good for high frequencies, but lacking in the bass, with a low end of 45 hz. Adding the sub was a game-changer. Setting the cross-over frequency, as you suggested, was the easy part. But it took a while to set the gain just right. I needed to use a DB meter to calibrate the loudness of the sub so it never exceeded the output of the monitors. The gain has to be uniform across all three speakers. Otherwise, having a sub is useless. That said, for the kind of music I produce, I'm better off with 8 inch speakers that go down to 30HZ. Nothing I ever work with reaches below 35-40HZ.
I would say that KRK "emphasizing low end" is not neccessarily in customer's demand, nor the company's intent given the fact, that studio monitor's key feature is to have flat response across the whole bandwidth. Extended lows differ to emphasized lows. The first comes from physical ability of woofer to reproduce the lowest frequencies present in the original mixdown. Lower it goes - its ability is extended down to. Emphasized lows mean artificially added to the monitor itself, i.e. monitor always adds something not present in the mix, extended lows means how deep they can go, if the signal is containing this type sonic information.The first thing is completely against the principles of "monitoring", it is "hifi" culture. Another thing depends on the room acoustic treatment and monitor itself. Look out for extension. No expansion..
Hmm when you did the sound test the KRK’s sounded more natural and the Yamahas sounded exaggerated with the hi end, maybe I should of stuck with KRK instead of buying Yamahas 😩 but I still like my Yamahas
moreover, in comparison it is clearly audible that he includes them with different loudness levels. krk plays a lot quieter, which makes it seem worse than it really is
I often see people comparing these monitors so when I wanted a new pair of 8 inch nearfields to my studio I figured I’d order all of them and A/B compare right where they’ll eventually would be used and this is my 2 cents: Focal Alpha 80 When I first opened the box and saw the monitors the first thing I noticed was that the panels that form the case werent perfectly alligned, some edges would stick out and it seemed like the box wasnt assembled with the attention to detail focal shapes are. To me that was barely a issue, I couldnt care less about what they look like. Now, the important part, the sound. They had a flat response but did lack a bit in the deep sub around 40-80hz. Above 80 hz the low end was very accurate and controlled. The mids were very impressive with a good sense of space and separation. They had great presence in the mid range. The highs and high mids sound amazing but they do have a slight hollow and metallic tone to them that some might prefer to really hear the sparkle and detail when working on vocals for example. Overall: They handle transients absolutely amazing. The stereo imaging is great. They are not that fun to listen to and thats because they excell at revealing what mixing decisions needs to be made. These are for mixing and nothing else. I would prefer these over the yams and Krks when working on less digital and bass heavy projects. Focals: 8.5/10 The Krk Rokit/RP8 Gen 4 Right out of the box you see those iconic yellow cones and this gen boasts knitted/braided kevlar drivers that look really cool. The ”box” feels extremely sturdy and well made. The sound: The deepsub between 35-100 sound amazing and upfront and thats probably because of the frontported sub. As were the focal and yams make you feel the sub, the krks gets you to hear them loud and clear. Around 120-200 hz the bass feels uncontrolled and give that car speaker like kind of bass response. Very bad for mixing but probably nice when youre composing and you want to get the vibe started. The mids sound good but the sense of space and separation isnt there, they lack clarity and give you a rumbly and dark sound. The highs are not good at all, high transients sound distorted, everything with a fast attack sounds like its clipping and the overall clarity and brightness isnt there even with the dsp eq on the back set to hype the 10khz and above. Overall: No bueno. The build quality and looks are far better than the other monitors but the sound is not good at all, they sound like a club PA system, if you are trying to improve your dj sets these might be the way to go but for producing and mixing these are pretty bad to be honest. They sound muffled almost as if you were listening to them from a room away Just my two cents Krk RP8G4: 6.5/10 The Yamaha HS 8 The yams look and feel well made but the adhesive put inside the cone is visible on the front. I dont mind but some might. The sound on these are amazing, very dynamic, they have punchy and precise sound and they handle all types of transients with ease. The stereo separation is great, the best out of the bunch, far better than the Krks and a (probably placebo) small edge over the Alphas aswell. The clear mids are indeed very clear, I wouldnt say they sound hyped in the highmids but the highs/mids are more upfront than the other monitors which result in a ”open” and clear sound. The bass is accurate and flat throught out the spectrum, very surgical and full but also punchy. Very nice low end. Overall: The yams rock a accurate and flat sound. They look professional, they sound professional. Amazing mids and highs, best bass response. Clear, open and good sense of width and depth. Not much to say, no aspect of them blew me away but more importantly nothing about them let me down. They are reliable, great sounding monitors and the pair out of the bunch that I prefer and will be keeping. Yamaha HS8: 9:10 Finalscore (remember these are my opinions) 1. Yamaha HS8 (9/10) 2. Focal Alpha 80 (8.5/10) 3. Krk Rokit 8 Gen 4 (6.5/10)
punk Anand with good room treatment the Yamaha hs8 are great for mixing but for making beats I agree I think the KRK’s are a go to for that.. I have both actually but the gen 2 Krk 8 and the Yamaha hs8 for those exact situations, great detail and comparison off just what you wrote you could of made a video saying all this and got thousands of views 😜 lol
I love your speaker stands! 😆. I've actually been looking for stools like that. I love them but cannot find them anywhere. What brand are they???? Great video review BTW. I'm picking up a set of 7's.
Lol I appreciate the review but come on man that a/b test wasn’t fair. You had the volume higher on the Yamaha’s so naturally people will lean towards them
krk's are known for their bass to be boosted and the Yamaha hs8's are neutral. I record a voice and play them back on krk's and hs8's and the krk's they sound totally different.
I don’t record anything, but I do use a lot of drum machines and synthesizers. Would I be happier with Studio Monitors, or should I keep using my PA ⁉️ Please help‼️
Be skeptical about frequency response comparisons that do not mention decibels. Frequency response is not flat. It's a curve, specially in the low end.
i went for the hs5's, i've had budget monitors for years and they sound boxy as hell just like the krk's in the vid, there was way more presence and clarity with the HS5's , i hope they do the job.
Owned both of these and all I can say is, do yourself a favour and get the Yamaha's. The Rokkits colour in the bass too much and are more difficult to mix with. Yamaha is very flat and better overall bang for your buck.
Why would you want to make a reference comparison and not compensate for the near 5 dB volume difference? It makes the KRK's feel weak and the Yamaha's far more direct and clear.
the krk sound way flatter than the hs and for everyone saying the hs are louder so it'll make you think it sounds better isn't really looking for what you should be trying to tell in the frequency response you should be trying to see how flat the sound is but also I own both these speakers and I gotta say the krk top the hs now for flatter sound
I owe both aswell and the hs8 sound way flatter. It outputs music as intended where as the krk boosts the low end so you don't really ever know what the flat bass line is. In other words, you are hearing the bass dB incorrectly
@@meti9230 please go check the history of hs and the low end was boosted for the g3 series not the G4 they made the G4 as a flat pair also on top of that the hs were never made to be flat they were modle after NHS which engineers liked the do to the on balanced frequency response you can even her the mid and mid lows stick out on the hs beside look at all of the top studio monitors that are years ahead of in frequency response to these introduction speakers the all use high end Material to achieve the flat sound the technology in the hs are literally Decades old while the new krk have morden tech
@@meti9230 also how well is you studio treaded you can look at my vidoes on my channel to see I've tested both of my speakers in a fully treaded room an i can assure you that the krk have the hs beat this when it comes to accurate referencing i can make a vidoe of the frequency spectrum sp you can see but all on top of how treated is your studio how big is your studio do you have the right ratio is the hight of your room and speakers good theres a lot of facter that goes into you being able to actually hear these speakers Actual representation frequency response the HS is are made for a Room that sounds like a Room and when they care k's made more for room thats why the krk have all the Bells and whistles to try and get the speakers to sound like it in a properly treated room with good ratios
@@meti9230 also i need to point out even if the low end is hyped on the g3 rokit 6 it really wouldn't mater since both of the mid speaker cons cant reproduce low end so you wouldn't know what your low end sound like with both you would need to add a sub which when you add the sub they would be a cross over from the sub at the point and the speakers mid cones would be left to take care of the mid low and mid highs but for real the new krk g4 are falter in its mid frequency response the heared everyone saying it soundes bass so the made it more of a flater response because of that i xan assure you that ones the subs added to your set up its even smooth since the speakers wont have to try and recreate bass
I don't agree. Krks are known for poor reliability and used by djs. Yamahas are build to last for years. The hs line have been out for 8 years plus. They are the preferred choice for most sound engineers and producers. Imagine how good they are that people still use them a decade later. Would you use a 10 year old krk? 😅The Krks are new. The hs8 destroys this new krk. Just like it did with all the previous ones. Unfortunately. All these new tech they added are used becuase the box isn't tuned adequately
What if I have a small room at 10x12 but with really high ceilings... and I also want to be able to play bass guitar through them. Wouldn't 8s be better than 5s or 7s for this? Also, I'm considering the HS8 because I intend to have a bigger room later. Thoughts please?
Hi thank you heaps for the comparison! For (mainly but not only) electronic music, deep house/electro french space pop/dance pop, etc. would a 7" woofer be ok or better to go to an 8" woofer, for bass frequencies I mean?
I like a 7 with a pair of subwoofers. (It's what our mastering lipinski speakers are setup as). Without a subwoofer I'd say the krk rokit 10-3 (what we use as monitor for electric drums, which doesnt require a subwoofer). We measured the yamahas and they have a treble spike and recessed mids, which is not great especially for the type of music you are talking about (it does give the 'impression' if more clarity though)
Yamaha Hs8 or Adam t8v for EDM mixing ? .... I make bass house, melodic Dubstep and sometimes future pop .... So which one should I buy ? ..... Please make a video on Yamaha hs8 vs Adam audio t8v ... If it's possible 👍🏻.... thank you for such informative video ❤️
I often see people comparing these monitors so when I wanted a new pair of 8 inch nearfields to my studio I figured I’d order all of them and A/B compare right where they’ll eventually would be used and this is my 2 cents: Focal Alpha 80 When I first opened the box and saw the monitors the first thing I noticed was that the panels that form the case werent perfectly alligned, some edges would stick out and it seemed like the box wasnt assembled with the attention to detail focal shapes are. To me that was barely a issue, I couldnt care less about what they look like. Now, the important part, the sound. They had a flat response but did lack a bit in the deep sub around 40-80hz. Above 80 hz the low end was very accurate and controlled. The mids were very impressive with a good sense of space and separation. They had great presence in the mid range. The highs and high mids sound amazing but they do have a slight hollow and metallic tone to them that some might prefer to really hear the sparkle and detail when working on vocals for example. Overall: They handle transients absolutely amazing. The stereo imaging is great. They are not that fun to listen to and thats because they excell at revealing what mixing decisions needs to be made. These are for mixing and nothing else. I would prefer these over the yams and Krks when working on less digital and bass heavy projects. Focals: 8.5/10 The Krk Rokit/RP8 Gen 4 Right out of the box you see those iconic yellow cones and this gen boasts knitted/braided kevlar drivers that look really cool. The ”box” feels extremely sturdy and well made. The sound: The deepsub between 35-100 sound amazing and upfront and thats probably because of the frontported sub. As were the focal and yams make you feel the sub, the krks gets you to hear them loud and clear. Around 120-200 hz the bass feels uncontrolled and give that car speaker like kind of bass response. Very bad for mixing but probably nice when youre composing and you want to get the vibe started. The mids sound good but the sense of space and separation isnt there, they lack clarity and give you a rumbly and dark sound. The highs are not good at all, high transients sound distorted, everything with a fast attack sounds like its clipping and the overall clarity and brightness isnt there even with the dsp eq on the back set to hype the 10khz and above. Overall: No bueno. The build quality and looks are far better than the other monitors but the sound is not good at all, they sound like a club PA system, if you are trying to improve your dj sets these might be the way to go but for producing and mixing these are pretty bad to be honest. They sound muffled almost as if you were listening to them from a room away Just my two cents Krk RP8G4: 6.5/10 The Yamaha HS 8 The yams look and feel well made but the adhesive put inside the cone is visible on the front. I dont mind but some might. The sound on these are amazing, very dynamic, they have punchy and precise sound and they handle all types of transients with ease. The stereo separation is great, the best out of the bunch, far better than the Krks and a (probably placebo) small edge over the Alphas aswell. The clear mids are indeed very clear, I wouldnt say they sound hyped in the highmids but the highs/mids are more upfront than the other monitors which result in a ”open” and clear sound. The bass is accurate and flat throught out the spectrum, very surgical and full but also punchy. Very nice low end. Overall: The yams rock a accurate and flat sound. They look professional, they sound professional. Amazing mids and highs, best bass response. Clear, open and good sense of width and depth. Not much to say, no aspect of them blew me away but more importantly nothing about them let me down. They are reliable, great sounding monitors and the pair out of the bunch that I prefer and will be keeping. Yamaha HS8: 9:10 Finalscore (remember these are my opinions) 1. Yamaha HS8 (9/10) 2. Focal Alpha 80 (8.5/10) 3. Krk Rokit 8 Gen 4 (6.5/10)
hey edward, im looking for either the hs7 or krk rokit 7. ive been researching and people have mixed opinions. on one hand the krk are less expensive and more advanced, but on the other hand the yamahas are trusted, tested and look way cleaner. can i get your input on which is better and why? i produce hip hop beats btw
I personally would go for the HS7. They are a set studio monitors you can trust, and they will last you a long time. KRK studio monitors are popular for small 5” type setups. Beyond the 5” size, not many KRKs are purchased... so that should say something. At the end of the day, both monitors will do the job, but the HS7 have already proven it can do the job well for the 10 years 👌🏼
I often see people comparing these monitors so when I wanted a new pair of 8 inch nearfields to my studio I figured I’d order all of them and A/B compare right where they’ll eventually would be used and this is my 2 cents: Focal Alpha 80 When I first opened the box and saw the monitors the first thing I noticed was that the panels that form the case werent perfectly alligned, some edges would stick out and it seemed like the box wasnt assembled with the attention to detail focal shapes are. To me that was barely a issue, I couldnt care less about what they look like. Now, the important part, the sound. They had a flat response but did lack a bit in the deep sub around 40-80hz. Above 80 hz the low end was very accurate and controlled. The mids were very impressive with a good sense of space and separation. They had great presence in the mid range. The highs and high mids sound amazing but they do have a slight hollow and metallic tone to them that some might prefer to really hear the sparkle and detail when working on vocals for example. Overall: They handle transients absolutely amazing. The stereo imaging is great. They are not that fun to listen to and thats because they excell at revealing what mixing decisions needs to be made. These are for mixing and nothing else. I would prefer these over the yams and Krks when working on less digital and bass heavy projects. Focals: 8.5/10 The Krk Rokit/RP8 Gen 4 Right out of the box you see those iconic yellow cones and this gen boasts knitted/braided kevlar drivers that look really cool. The ”box” feels extremely sturdy and well made. The sound: The deepsub between 35-100 sound amazing and upfront and thats probably because of the frontported sub. As were the focal and yams make you feel the sub, the krks gets you to hear them loud and clear. Around 120-200 hz the bass feels uncontrolled and give that car speaker like kind of bass response. Very bad for mixing but probably nice when youre composing and you want to get the vibe started. The mids sound good but the sense of space and separation isnt there, they lack clarity and give you a rumbly and dark sound. The highs are not good at all, high transients sound distorted, everything with a fast attack sounds like its clipping and the overall clarity and brightness isnt there even with the dsp eq on the back set to hype the 10khz and above. Overall: No bueno. The build quality and looks are far better than the other monitors but the sound is not good at all, they sound like a club PA system, if you are trying to improve your dj sets these might be the way to go but for producing and mixing these are pretty bad to be honest. They sound muffled almost as if you were listening to them from a room away Just my two cents Krk RP8G4: 6.5/10 The Yamaha HS 8 The yams look and feel well made but the adhesive put inside the cone is visible on the front. I dont mind but some might. The sound on these are amazing, very dynamic, they have punchy and precise sound and they handle all types of transients with ease. The stereo separation is great, the best out of the bunch, far better than the Krks and a (probably placebo) small edge over the Alphas aswell. The clear mids are indeed very clear, I wouldnt say they sound hyped in the highmids but the highs/mids are more upfront than the other monitors which result in a ”open” and clear sound. The bass is accurate and flat throught out the spectrum, very surgical and full but also punchy. Very nice low end. Overall: The yams rock a accurate and flat sound. They look professional, they sound professional. Amazing mids and highs, best bass response. Clear, open and good sense of width and depth. Not much to say, no aspect of them blew me away but more importantly nothing about them let me down. They are reliable, great sounding monitors and the pair out of the bunch that I prefer and will be keeping. Yamaha HS8: 9:10 Finalscore (remember these are my opinions) 1. Yamaha HS8 (9/10) 2. Focal Alpha 80 (8.5/10) 3. Krk Rokit 8 Gen 4 (6.5/10)
Even though the 2 are very similar in quality, for that price range I would go for the Adam T7V as even though Yamaha HS7 is a great monitor and I own them, I find them very fatiguing when working for extended sessions in the studio. The high frequencies coming from the dome tweeter of the HS7 make you feel like you're on drugs after more than 2 hours playing around. The T7Vs instead have the X-ART tweeter which is famous for Adam Audio monitors and they are well known to not cause ear fatigue and you can mix for hours on end without any problems and rely on their great audio quality at the same time. I would go for Adam A7X (looking to upgrade soon) but for that budget then I'd choose the Adam T7V.
Yes there is a huge difference in cone size. The bigger the cone, the more low end (bass) you are going to get, and 8 inch studio monitors tend to better balanced in terms of overall sound compared to that of a 5 inch monitor. KRK 8s are definitely better than KRK 5s
In terms of room size, small ? Big ? Sizes by feet please! I heard you can have large speaker in small room (10 by 15 feet? Is that small?) more headroom…
Bro....KRKs are twice as powerful. Why is their a difference in volume. This is misleading. I’m glad I got my own VXT8S and HS8S m. I can use for a reference & the HS8S have more mid & high than the KRKS
😂bs their are the same power except hs 8 got a more neutral clean sound the Krk got lower frequencies that Arent real if you mix your tracks you will hear in your song on another system with less low frequencies then played on Krk ....and thats what Yamaha doesnt have it sounds the same on every system no diifence
Hi, I am after some advice here i possible please. I have just bought 2 RP8 G4s to replace my RP5 G3s However my new RP8s produce less bass that the RP5s! The speakers are fine, not faulty, because if I plug them into my laptop in another room the bass is superb, so its the room. My question is, can the room be treated so the bass is felt, however the room is only about say 3 meters by 2 meters. Or is it just impossible for these speakers to perform in a room that size even if treated. Cheers Gaz
