Which TF2 Mercs Are Only Working For The Money? 

Scout 1:10 Soilder 2:18 Pyro 3:15 Demo 4:04 Heavy 4:51 Engi 5:10 Medic 6:28 Sniper 7:20 Spy 7:55

Heavy has the most reasonable reason to be there for the money

Think pyro might fall under "exploitation of the mentally ill"

Headcanon: Soldier actually makes tons of money too, but he has no idea how to properly spend it and just throws money while running out of stores, effectively spending thousands on even just a loaf a bread

I see very few talking about Engineer's *raging* god complex. His machines are merely vehicles to satiate his (generally well hidden) bloodlust & power fantasy, despite his lacking physicality and combative abilities

*Something to consider with Pyro:* While they aren't consciously choosing to kill people, the fact that everything they do in Pyroland also happens to line up with efficient/brutal methods of murder in reality tells us that on SOME level, Pyro DOES enjoy killing. HOWEVER! The fact that Pyro doesn't go on a rampage after being fired and instead becomes CEO of a company implies that their hallucinations likely compel them to do whatever is best for their current job, be it murder or financial strategy. We know that Pyro has the CAPACITY for complex decision-making, as they were capable of constructing multiple military-grade incendiary weapons out of crap they found in a garage. BUT!! We can ALSO see that Pyro is clearly miserable as a CEO, while working as a mercenary made them frighteningly happy. This tells us that on some level, Pyro IS aware of the difference between leading a company and burning people to death, and DOES have a preference. The fact that they don't just burn random people, though, says that even if it's what they love to do, they still won't do it unless they're being instructed to.

I feel like heavy gains at least a bit of fun from revving up his gun.

I think Demo should be one tier lower. As he seems to really enjoy his job and was genuenly excited in the comic where he was put back in the team.

I think medic should be up with engineer? While he is mostly in it for his experimentation, he does seem to really love money as well, especially in MVM where he's probably the only one who yells about getting free money. Great video though! Love this kind of stuff.

Truthfully, I think Scout would fit more under "Mostly Money". This is because he was raised in a family of seven older brothers and a single mother, with a bastard father who left them when he was merely an infant (likely in a state of poverty). There's no way in hell a family of that size could live in a financially-healthy state (not without having a LOT of money beforehand anyways), but since Spy had abandoned them (who definitely has a job to keep the family he left in check), it's the whole reason why Scout became a mercenary two decades later, to fill in the shoes his bastard father had left behind and get them out of a state of poverty (why the comics never mention this is probably because he managed to do this sometime before the events of "Ring of Fired", since the mercenaries get paid TONS of money). If Scout had the option, I suspect he would much rather be a professional baseball player, but since he's a wanted criminal, he can't exactly go back to living a normal life, meaning he's stuck in this hell with the bastard who left his family to rot in the first place.

I think that everyone is somewhat there for fun. You dont stay at this level of danger just for money, you gotta be enjoying it. Kinda like Walter from Breaking Bad, he needed the money, but then found out that it was actually what he liked the most.

Scout: Mix of money and fun Soldier: Clearly "tricked" into being hired by being told the enemy team is full of communists. Pyro: Tempted with fire. That's literally it. Demoman: Not so much for the money as much as it is just to have a job. Heavy: Weapons. They give him weapons he loves (romantically) Engineer: Contracted because his grandfather was too Medic: Contract allows him to freely experiment on the team, regardless of money. Sniper: Professionalism. He was hired to do it and he does it. Spy: Money, and lots of it.

To me, I think Heavy is in it for the Money for the most part, but is also an honor-bound killer. He probably has the highest moral standards of the 9 mercs, considering his backstory with his family, and, although he does enjoy shooting his guns and all that, he also is shown to hold strict moral boundaries. He inquires about Miss Pauling's job propositions to ensure that he is going to be killing "evil men" specifically, and his character niche being that of a sort of "team leader" both as a gameplay thing AND a lore thing says to me that, while he DOES do it for the money, the point of said money is selfless and for sending back to his family, and if he didn't have to worry about his family, he may either retire or work under Miss Pauling under the expectation that what he is doing is morally right and overall helps more people in the world.

I think Medic is mostly in it for the fun. the money is just the way to keep the fun of his experiments going. I guarantee that if costs were of no issue, he wouldn't even care about the money. Plus to quote him: "the healing is not as rewarding as the hurting"

This video is basically "Let's see how ethical a group of killers are" and it's great

Engineer is in the battle ground to test and perfect his buildings. He gets his pay from upgrading the life extender machines and by selling some of his creations (i think this one was confirmed in a Mann Co. newspaper) to major companies. So he's fighting only for the killing.

been noticing a lot more of people making content looking more into the life of the mercs and its something im all for good work with this one

Preeeetty sure Sniper is in it for the money, you're right. He's just rather depersonalised and has contempt for his fellow man, but finds the headshot itself satisfying. He is after all, a professional. That's honestly the big thing about him. That's what makes it hard to say, but I imagine he is just here for the pay, along with trying to have a living.

Heavy is enjoying his job to a comical level So don’t just put him in the “in it ONLY for the money” category

I would disagree with Demo and Heavy's position -Heavy takes *_A lot_* enjoyment from mowing down hordes of enemy mercs, as seen in Meet the Heavy, "Mostly for money." -Demo takes pride in his job and tries to make his ma proud, and he also seems very amused in his domination lines, "Mostly for money."

I think mercs like Pyro, Medic, and Engineer can be safely placed into "for the killing" since they could easily make just as much, if not more money with other jobs but they choose to be mercenaries

i personally think heavy should go in mostly killing, because unlike demoman, theres a huge emphasis for his passion of his gun. If you were to directly compare their meet the team videos, heavy's is focused on his love of his gun, whilst demos is focussed on how he values his job

the fact that the mercs probably have different salaries actually made me sad lol but it makes sense: i think its less about their roles since theyre a team and more about scummy labour practices from RED and BLU. they should start a union or... maybe they have contracts like sports teams and get paid based on performance?? which would still leave RED and BLU with a lot of power to underpay certain mercs simply bc they can. ...goddamn. great video man, got me thinking too deeply abt labour laws within the hat simulator game 😂

Remember the bear incident in the comics, Pyro sees the world through pyrovision, but he 110% knows what's actually happening and what she's doing. Seeing one of the bears as Smokey, the second the bear says "Fire is no one's friend" Pyro gets really pissed and axes the bear to death That said Pyro does seem to care about money having gotten a mundane job after manco fell, so i wouldn't say its solely about the killing, even though pyro has the means of getting money elsewhere its far better getting paid doing something you love rather then something you hate. I'd say they're here for both, maybe a little more of the violence side but money is certainly a part of it

Scout: Money and passion Soldier: War Pyro: Seems to be going with the flow, and trying to do what makes him happy Demoman: Money for family Heavy: Money for family Engineer: Legacy and passion Medic: Experimentation, and funds for more experimentation Sniper: Money for a living Spy: Money for tastes and to look after the scout

I understand your reasoning for Medic. But I feel like you should still put him closer towards the “doing it for fun”. Yes, he joined the TFC mercs because they pay him more. But he seems to spend it all (or at least a lot of it) on experiments. (Which he does for fun) And it also implies that he STILL was 100% willing to work for the red team, even if they weren’t paying him enough to buy organs. Also don’t forget, he joined the TF2 team again, after he revived sniper.

Pyro is in it for the killing. He doesn't know he's in it for the killing because he doesn't see that, but whatever he does see equates to the killing in the real world.

I mean, heavy does also enjoy using his gun, so he is mostly in it because it pays, but he also gets a good deal of satisfaction out of it.

love these kind's of videos, keep em up!

Honestly fascinating video, never thought of this idea! Good job!

Excellent content for such a new youtuber, keep it up man!

I feel like it would’ve fit better if this was an analysis on each of the mercenaries deeper motivations for being on the team rather than being than a tier list.

this is a really good video definitely needs more views and you earned my sub

Pyro should be a very easy case considering you actually include both killing and fun into consideration. Regardless of whether or not he understands he's killing people, we see that things that kill people (especially fire) are translated into Pyrovision as things that cause him joy, while being a CEO does not.Incredibly clear cut case of "in it for the fun", the hard part is defining what that fun is exactly.

I think scout should be in atleast mostly fun. "Investing" your money in merch that is expected to go up in value is different from typical investing as you are buying it primarily with the money allocated in your finances for fun and the profits are a bonus

I dont quite agree with Demo, in the comics he seems to be seriously depressed about losing his job to machines, and jumps right back on the occasion to get it back, while other jobs seemed uninteresting So yeah money is a big factor but i'd say he's mostly in for the money, not 100% just that

I think pyro might be also for the hire because depending on if you take it cannon or not, Evil Genius 2 let’s you hire him as a henchmen. So

How do you think Pyro would react if his Pyro vision was fixed and told and shown all those people he thought he was helping he burned alive? Considering pyro even without the pyro vision would most likely still be very mentally and emotionally unstable I can only imagine how traumatic it would be for him.

Great video idea and love all the comments talking about their own take on where they'd place everyone.

such a fun idea i really enjoyed watching this

Great content m8

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Great video!

Good vid. Same conclusions I'd have reached tbh (I haven't read the comics, just heard friends in the TF2 community discussing them). Off topic, I like the war paint on your Iron Bomber ^_^

Good video, keep it up 👏

Oh boy, this is going to go big

Heavy: there to help provide for his family. Pyro: has nothing better to do.

Funny, we were just debating this on a Bionicle Discord server the other day! Also I totally agree with your assessment.

Spy and Sniper both are examples of "if you're good at something , never do it for free" And Heavy, Demo, Engi and Spy show that just because you're in for the money doesn't mean you can't be proud of what you do and enjoy it. That is basically what we all look for. A job that can fund us that we also like doing.

I feel that Heavy would be in the same boat as scout, have you seen how much fun hes having in the game?

I think Heavy and Medic should be alongside Engie. Heavy's lines in game show that he really likes mowing down people with his gun, though I believe he signed up primarily to help his folks. And Medic really likes money. He's super excited about getting money from the robots in MvM for example.

Solid vid

good vid i can see ur channel growing if ur vids were 1080p with a little bit better editing but i also like ur hud i use the same one

please help me, Lon'qudor, the hit tf2 youtuber, has trapped me in his basement

I would say, the whole "enjoys/takes pride in their job" argument is rather irrelevant because it's literally a game about mercenaries - of course, they all have broken moral compass.

I enjoyed this video

Pyro immediately gives up on being a CEO for the opportunity to start playing with fire again so it's definitely just for fun.

Medic even has an MvM line in which he screams at the top of his lungs: "FREE MONEEEEY"

4:47 a explosives expert does not need to be killing all he needs to do is explode what he is told to explode i think demo is only doing for the money, one job he explodes buildings the other he explodes people all in a days work

thansk for the video

"Hey. You've been getting on fine without one" "A Soul"

I feel like the big issue I have with spy being there for the money at all is the fact that given how good he is at his job, he could go literally anywhere and get paid just as much, if not more due to his skill.

This is unrelated to the vid but, I gotta be honest I love your mouse cursor

You're the only guy i've seen play that weird map with the satellite from the menu screen

that's some real medic gaming ping you got there [:

Maybe demo should be in, mostly money, considering the fact the battlefield is the only place where he can get drunk.

5:12 what is that war paint? it looks freaking dope af

The only characters I couldn’t previously guess were scout, demo, and engi. The rest of them I either guessed or knew from the comics

this is underrated

You're so close to 1K! (currently 998)

Pyro is definitely in it for the killing, as his large company made his « world » bland and boring, without colors. He believes he has fun with everyone when killing, and, as seen in the comic A Cold Day In Hell, he is *likely* capable to be aware that he kills (mainly due to how he reacts towards the bear warning him about fire).

You should try to get rid of those mouse clicks in your audio. Just wait a bit before and after speaking and cut the beginnings and ends of the audio tracks. I think you should also look into animating your own tier list instead of using a website. All that being said, this video was quite good.

i don't think many people would work in a fast food joint, even if they were absolutely mad about fast food...

6:11 did Engie just pick up scrap off the floor 😵‍💫

"Im putting heavy as only in it for the money." meet the heavy says otherwise

i have a strong feeling medic will be on the top of " here for the fun " next to pyro

when it comes to pyro being CEO of frontier engineering, i have to assume that happened on accident

Now this is important

I remember pyro literally killing the tf2 universe’s version of smoky the bear

I'd put Engineer more on the killing-side. That psychopathic smile as he watches an enemy off-screen get blown to pieces in meet the engineer, did it for me Engineers complete calm bloodlust makes me think that engineer is supposed to be some psychopath but great vid. Keep it up!

3:25 Isn't it also possible that he's aware of what he's doing and Pyrovision is more like a means of showing what it feels like to him?

Love your mouse lol

How to make a good friend dynamic according to tf2: mello and sane character with loud, crazy and insane character. Like engineer and Pyro or heavy and medic. It's actually a good friend dynamic for characters tho

In my opinion I'd put Demoman in mostly money. It seems to me he enjoys some aspect of it, but idk.

There’s no amount of money anyone can pay to feel the joy Heavy does mowing down hoards of men

3:25 CUSTOM RANK TIME11!1!1!1! is in it for spreading happiness

Demo is only working for Mannco for the money, but he takes hella pride in his work and could probably find legit demolitions work anywhere else but none that would pay as good. Soldier is probably really poorly paid cause the Admin or whoever drafted his contract is taking advantage of him, similiar thing with Pyro. They're both very dangerous very skilled people. But Mannco was hiring from the short bus that day

The pyro is easy to answer though. You already said it's killing OR fun. Pyro's just having a blast; though they might like a bit of the pay here and there to spend on fun things.

I would love a sequel with background/side characters. Specifically I'd think Miss Pauling, The Administrator, Merasmus, SAXTON HALE!!!!!, & the Mann Brothers. Maybe even the old mercs.

love the cursor

Good guy Pyro just wants to share love!

tbh whether or not the list is at all accurate, this video is a great example of how many of the mercs have motives other than money or fun.

8:40 if spy was with the mercs to keep a eye on his son couldnt he do that without the job so I would say very top tier.

Im still thinking about how each merc got on death row

I think you might be a bit confused on the Demoman part. That article from him was about the top 10 house cleaners that won’t kill you if you drink them. And the part about Pyro could be boiled down to him only being in it for the “fun” since Pyroland makes it seem like everyone is just having fun. He probably thinks he’s getting paid to both babysit and play with children if “Meet the Pyro” is anything to go by.

I'd move both spy and scout down a tier. They have qualitys that whould make them an asset to other employers in other fields wich might even pay a better salary.

I feel like soldier gets the same pay, seeing how well of a killer he is, but he spends it all on raccoon sanctuaries and hats that were set on fire.

you can charge your sticky launcher by holding left click

I would have put medic in the mostly in it for the killing tier because while yeah, the money helps him do his experiments, it is simply a means to an end for him. The money is nice, but it's simply not what he's /really/ there for

I'd be saying for the pro in the middle/bit of both