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Which Track Saw Should You Buy??? Mistakes I made... 

Insider Carpentry - Spencer Lewis
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In hopes of saving you some money I dive into my track saw journey. I have the TS 55, TSC 55, TS 75, Mafell MT55, and HKC 55. There is a lot to consider when purchasing a track saw and if I could go back in time knowing what I know now I would have made some very different purchasing decisions. Hope this track saw buying guide helps...
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@InsiderCarpentry
@InsiderCarpentry 3 года назад
Festool TS 55 - amzn.to/3eeX3Y5 Festool TS 75 - amzn.to/3oLRtBd Festool TSC 55 - amzn.to/3jNgIj3 Festool HKC 55 - amzn.to/3ecmV6W Mafell MT55 - www.timberwolftools.com/mafel...
@AJ-wk9mb
@AJ-wk9mb 3 года назад
Is your mafell for sale, if so, please let me know?
@neilyochim8932
@neilyochim8932 2 года назад
Hey spencer just watched your video on track saw to buy and not to buy and wanted to thank you for all your advice. I’ve been on the fence about what track saw to buy. I bought the dewalt and it was ok but wasn’t satisfied. I was getting ready to buy the tc55 but instead am going to go with the battery powered one like you suggested. I’m a trim carpenter in saint Louis and have been watching your channel for a couple of years now. Just want to say thank you for all your help man. Also was wondering how much you would charge me to build your latest miter saw stand? Thank you
@laidbackmedia
@laidbackmedia Год назад
None of them are suitable for ripping long material safely
@pureau79
@pureau79 2 года назад
It has been said that, “An average man learns from his own mistakes, and a wise man learns from the mistakes of others.” I’m 61 now and carry the residual evidence of many personal errors of judgement. I have watched quite a few of your videos and appreciate the depth of logic and reason applied. As expected, this was well organized and informative. It helped me with a decision and is greatly appreciated as I too can be an impulse buyer at times.
@thomasmorley4966
@thomasmorley4966 Год назад
I went the Mafell route. Purchased two, my first a decade ago nearly. Fantastic saw.
@stephenmurray4916
@stephenmurray4916 3 года назад
Like some other commenters i have the makita. it has more power than the festool and works perfectly on festool tracks and accessories. You should defo buy one, every one man show needs 6 tracksaws.
@metgumbnerbone1
@metgumbnerbone1 3 года назад
I love my Makita too!
@kperellie
@kperellie 3 года назад
I second that! LOL
@smokingcheeba420
@smokingcheeba420 3 года назад
Makita fan boy here. But haven't used the makita track saw. Only festool.
@KevinManual
@KevinManual 3 года назад
bought the makita this week, first track saw, its like a funny car. Found a 118 track locally, no 55, so I went to the overpriced tool store and bought a 55 inch festool track. It fits fine, but I have to adjust the tension nobbies every time I switch between the two tracks. so not quite perfectly if your running tracks from different manufactures. Its super minor but still annoying enough that I'm going to pick up a makita 55 track when I find one. And it came with the double charger, I can ditch some of the single chargers I have. IDK if it plays the song though, none of my single chargers do.
@stephenmurray4916
@stephenmurray4916 3 года назад
@@KevinManual I'm running all makita tracks I have some festool track clamps and the tso rail square, the square is the business. You can make any of the makita chargers play up to something like 5 different songs. When you plug in the battery and hear the beep remove it straight away and plug it back in immediately repeat this to cycle though diffrent options.
@metal-adventures-joerg
@metal-adventures-joerg 3 года назад
I have a Mafell Track Saw for 25 years now and still working fine! The MT 55 is available as a cordless version now Greetings from Oberndorf, Germany (Hometown of Mafell)
@paulhopkins1905
@paulhopkins1905 3 года назад
You would be on your 8th Festool by now
@MichaelRozie
@MichaelRozie 2 года назад
I have the Bosch that is based on that, love the rails. I would never go Festool, the rail is much worse than Mafell / Bosch
@dthorne4602
@dthorne4602 4 месяца назад
Yes, festool is the most overhyped fanboy brand in all of tools. Sadly, deWalt is the second most fanboy oriented brand at least in the US.
@whitey0o5
@whitey0o5 3 года назад
I really appreciate your content. I can’t tell you how many times I’m researching something...Carpentry techniques, tool reviews... Oh, I wanna build some custom miter saw extension wings. Bam! Oh and let’s not forget Amazon reviews. BAM! You’re the real hero. The man we can trust. Much respect.
@InsiderCarpentry
@InsiderCarpentry 3 года назад
I appreciate that. 👊👊👍
@rickyperkins232
@rickyperkins232 2 года назад
@@InsiderCarpentry I haven't seen any video from you in a minute wondering if you are Okay?
@InsiderCarpentry
@InsiderCarpentry 2 года назад
All good. I’ll be back soon. 👍
@rickyperkins232
@rickyperkins232 2 года назад
@@InsiderCarpentry just wanted to make sure there wasn't any kind of health issues impeding you or something like that. Good to. Know that you are 100%
@robwalker8530
@robwalker8530 3 года назад
I got the TS75 because I needed to miter 1.5” butcher block countertops. I needed the depth of cut at 45 degrees. Four years later, still happy with the purchase, I use it all the time.
@hhanger1
@hhanger1 3 года назад
I had the TS55 and TS75 and sold them both. Now I use the Mafell 55 and it's a beast. Very happy with it for my use.
@russellslater4037
@russellslater4037 Год назад
I know I'm late to the discussion, but I have the TS55. Initially I was concerned that it appeared underpowered. However, when I got additional blades (particularly the Panther), it changed the game. Ripping 2" timber is a breeze, and with the signature finished edge as well. The key is to match the blade to the work.
@loumonte658
@loumonte658 3 года назад
I've been super happy for years with my makita track saw.
@billystray7007
@billystray7007 3 года назад
I've used that Makita, loved it !! Im so over my festool
@Jason-uz8hj
@Jason-uz8hj 3 года назад
I have the cordless makita. Very happy! Use it with festool tracks though. I read too many bad reviews of makita track
@jaredwaters4633
@jaredwaters4633 3 года назад
How’s the power on the makita, I’m seriously considering it, after doing some research on the subject sounds like the Makita is the best bag for the buck (I was disappointed to learn the Dewalt was so poor in performance and features)
@Jason-uz8hj
@Jason-uz8hj 3 года назад
@@jaredwaters4633 I'm heavy into dewalt 20v and 60v and I chose the makita. VERY happy. Ripped lots of sheet goods with no problems ......power to spare
@LemonySnicket-EUC
@LemonySnicket-EUC 3 года назад
@@eringuet 3 year warranty
@kenvanness2828
@kenvanness2828 3 года назад
I will defend the HKC's Power. I used an HKC to built a full set of stairs (4 stringers, with 2x treads & risers) It handled it all like a champ. No binding, no trouble at all cutting stringers. I went thru one & a half fully charged battery's on the whole set of stairs. I was pretty darn impressed. Thanks Spencer for another quality video.
@johnbeckman8916
@johnbeckman8916 3 года назад
As with any addiction, step one is admitting you have a problem and are powerless to resist....... 😀
@JonDunnmusician
@JonDunnmusician 3 года назад
Would be nice if we could start a Self Help group on here for tool lovers
@hoppy2515
@hoppy2515 3 года назад
I'M IN!!!
@-37driver
@-37driver 3 года назад
Sounds like you should have just started with Mafell MT55s and ran them on Mafell tracks...
@MrDragonlarry
@MrDragonlarry 3 года назад
Makita track saw is the best purchase I've made. I'm already on the Makita battery platform so that's why I went that route.
@woodbutcherjc
@woodbutcherjc 3 года назад
Where did you buy it and did you buy a package deal?
@MrDragonlarry
@MrDragonlarry 3 года назад
@@woodbutcherjc Bought the package deal off Amazon and added additional tracks with carry case.
@andyboybennett
@andyboybennett 2 месяца назад
WHAT??? There is another brand of track saw other then Festool or Mafell? Hard to believe after watching this video. If there really are other brands, why not include them in a comparison that claims to tell us which track saw to buy.
@stevenfoust3782
@stevenfoust3782 3 года назад
I’m not surprised you would have that many track saws given the number of routers you have lol. I am a 55 yr old finish carpenter and made my own tracks for saws and routers I use. Sure a real one would be great , I just never get around to buying one. If I want to see cool tools I’ll just watch you.
@ackec-umsekkruch-ekucki952
@ackec-umsekkruch-ekucki952 3 года назад
I like the to the point approach of the pro who's done all the testing and thoroughly thought out the production processes. It's just invaluable. Not only does it save my money but most importantly it does save a lot of my time. Thanks for being so open and honest and for making the industry better in so many different ways!
@InsiderCarpentry
@InsiderCarpentry 3 года назад
Happy to help. 👊
@CLPRPSD
@CLPRPSD 3 года назад
After a great amount of research and trying a number of these saws, I purchased the Makita (corded). It has been excellent overall, has very good power, has an anti-tip lock for cutting 45° cuts and scoring feature. Great saw, great tracks to go with it and reasonably priced.
@als4817
@als4817 2 года назад
Thanks for posting! I love this channle and all the incredible ideas and work processes that are demonstrated here. I don't use any of the Dewalt and Festool products that Spencer loves. I bought Makita and Milwaukee decades ago and still do today. I've never seen a good reason to change.
@garybutterfield8953
@garybutterfield8953 2 года назад
Just came in from the shop where my ts55 (corded) is smoking like a house on fire. Started searching for how much a new one will set me back and found this video. Thanks Spencer for making me feel not so bad! It hurts to spend so much on a tool and see it just burn up. Sure it's about 7 years old but I have only cut plywood with it and never used it in a production environment. I finished the job with my 30 year old Skillsaw that is still running like the day it was bought. That saw has been used in a production environment many times, thrown in the back of a pick up, never lived a day of its life in a sustainer case etc...I wish Skill made a track saw!
@InsiderCarpentry
@InsiderCarpentry 2 года назад
I had mine rebuilt it it has been great for me ever since.
@daftnord4957
@daftnord4957 Год назад
$200 sounds steep. i'm guessing you could get access to the brushes for replacement and clean the commutator quicker and cheaper than sending it in
@kentbrobeck5140
@kentbrobeck5140 3 года назад
The Mafell track is far superior to the Festool. It’s the reason I purchased the Mafell. You can clamp the track right next to the splinter guard. Obviously this allows you to rip narrow pieces. Tapered extension jambs for example. Festool saws are awesome. I have the TS55 and the HK55 both corded. The saws are under powered for sure. The Festool track is the weakest part of the saw. There isn’t one thing the Festool does better than the Mafell. Do yourself a favor and buy the Mafell track so you can get the most from the Mafell MT 55cc. You won’t have to worry about where the splinter guard hits on it vs. your Festool track saw.
@erichamilton5932
@erichamilton5932 2 года назад
Mafell is the Maybach and Festool is the Mercedes Benz and Bosch is the BMW (not featured here) I always liked Bosch, in any case, the tools are more accurate than I am and I'm a hobbyist /Weekend warrior. I couldn't justify a Mafell or a Festool, would be different if woodworking was my way of making a living. The Germans together with the Swedes and the English always made the best tools.
@farmcat3198
@farmcat3198 2 года назад
I agree on the Mafell. Festool is an accessory sales company. The dust collection on the MT55 cordless with dust bag is as good, if not superior to the Festool ones.
@BType13X2
@BType13X2 Год назад
@@erichamilton5932 And Makita is the one that the majority of the population uses abuses, and doesn't do maintenance on but goes on to work anyway.
@samsonacc8081
@samsonacc8081 4 месяца назад
​@@BType13X2that's because it's cheaper. Yes still better than festool, as are their routers. But nothing so far beats any of mafell saws, anything to do with cutting, routing, profiling, guide rail saw included in that. Nothing wrong with makita tools BTW (except sanders, they are 20 years behind in that department), good reliable workhorse you can depend on. Their tools will outlast premium over priced brands and do exactly the same thing with no compromise at all. I only wish they based their plunge saw on bosch guide rail.
@SingleTrack66
@SingleTrack66 Год назад
The battery powered ts55 absolutely rocks. More power than the mains version and a dream to use.
@thyslop1737
@thyslop1737 3 года назад
Yes. Exactly. I am so tired of being the guinea pig on tools and machinery and finding out the dislikes, yet being stuck with it.
@zacharybaker695
@zacharybaker695 3 года назад
Makita 36v track saw for the win. Used it for years, cuts true, lots of power, never regret not having a riving knife. 🤷‍♂️
@mojo6524
@mojo6524 3 года назад
FESTERING STOOL Makita for the win
@benjamingerow5650
@benjamingerow5650 2 года назад
Really appreciate you passing along your life lessons without padding the length with useless anecdotes like I keep seeing. Subscribed
@craiguddstromcarpentry7605
@craiguddstromcarpentry7605 3 года назад
Always a pleasure to use my Makita corded track saw, 5 years old with no problems.
@carlcox7332
@carlcox7332 3 года назад
Makita just makes tools That work. Some of the cordless are a little bulky compared to other brands but they are bullet proof and always get the job done. Gotta say, my most used tools are my Makita 6.5 in circular saw and my 12v impact driver. I also have several 18v Milwaukee impacts, but 90% of the time my little Makita is more than enough to do what I need. And with a 5ah battery it lasts for weeks without charging it. It's also great when I'm doing stuff like hanging drywall over head cause it's so light and the belt clip is wider which is perfect to just drop it on my hammer ring when I move. I also have the DeWalt cordless drywall gun but I only use that when I'm driving a ton of screws. Then I still prefer to co back with the Makita for all the tight spots and corners cause it's more compact. My next big purchase is going to be the Makita track saw
@flyingjackcarpentry9394
@flyingjackcarpentry9394 3 года назад
I've two favourite YT carpentry channels and this is no.1. Even tho I'm British and we do things differently over here. I like carpenter videos that give advice to carpenters and not specifically DIYers.
@frankwieczorek5112
@frankwieczorek5112 3 года назад
I'm a Mafell fan for a good reason, they are extremely good tools
@scotland1380
@scotland1380 3 года назад
Best decision I made was going Mafell over festool
@slowride5633
@slowride5633 2 года назад
This is an old video but it has great advice. I have been kicking around buying the new Ryobi track saw with 18v battery and track for $399 since I already have Ryobi stuff coming out my ears. However, the design of the riving knife on the Ryobi sucks so I will not buy it. This is how I got to this video because I was researching the rest of the market and safety is a high priority since I am a rookie with this and I think I have decided on the Festool TSC55.
@TheOfficialSoulPower
@TheOfficialSoulPower 8 месяцев назад
Recently bought the TSC 55 and 1st job was cutting and fitting vinyl planking to stairs (sorry, we don't see much hardwood stair treads in our neck of the woods!). I was super impressed! Thought I'd have to haul in my big Dewalt mitre saw and job site table saw, but the TSC 55 and track did it all in record time with very little dust. Couldn't be happier. Learned about it on your channel, so thanks for sharing!
@muddywater6856
@muddywater6856 3 года назад
My Makita corded is used daily without issue going on 3 years. Great dust collection. I have both Makita and Powertec tracks.....the cheaper Powertec tracks seem superior except for the supplied splinter strip. I like the anti-tip for bevels. Actually the only track saw I have ever used. Blade selection takes care of power issues for me when ripping 8/4.
@tsherman.9181
@tsherman.9181 3 года назад
love the Garand Thumb homage in the opener! Love your videos!
@JoeC92
@JoeC92 3 года назад
The Bosch track saw is identical to maffel minus the scoring cut feature. Given the main complaint you had was the use on festool tracks you could've started with just the Bosch tracks and you're set. I've never owned the festools but have used them. If you're lucky enough to have enough money to be fully invested in the festool line they are great. But I did find it lacked power. I started with a grizzly so the Bosch was a huge improvement. I haven't found any place I'd prefer the festool other than if I had everything, the extractor and other tools, since they all work with one cord. I haven't had any issues getting the other accessories for the Bosch. I'm not a fan of cordless tools like this because batteries are so expensive and the batteries always seem to be before the tool. At least in my experience with Milwaukee and Makita. So when it comes to high demand tools like track saw, table saw, mitre or routers I prefer corded. I know Bosch make a cordless option but no experience with it. And one complaint I've heard with festool was their warranty. As great as it is they will fix it, its rarely for free and it's almost as much as the tool. Because they won't just fix one thing they'll fix everything even if you didn't want it fixed. Like a cracked handle on an extractor or whatever. They'll make it where you need to fix it all to get the broken motor fixed and then charge you the $300+ when it could've just been change the motor for $100
@JasonTaylor1
@JasonTaylor1 3 года назад
I am happy with my Makita cordless. At first I was not using it a lot but now it the go to saw for many tasks. Stair stringers, sheathing, foam board, hand rail posts, Etc.
@msm624
@msm624 2 года назад
Just bought the kreg track saw to cut a slab of 2" thick black walnut and im very pleased. Perfectly clean cut.
@rpezman24
@rpezman24 Год назад
Hitting the thumbs up because I too have spent way too much money on tools that I didn't really need but I'm happy to have. Great video.
@Joyjoiner
@Joyjoiner 3 года назад
Scary to think i,ve been at this game for over 40yrs ,starting out with a handsaw hammer and a square on my bicycle ,today i cant fit all my gear in my crafter van. As for tracksaws had afew festool ts 55 burnt out my 1st one still have a75 seldom used ,have the hk55corded andthe mafell ks55 is streets ahead of the festool ts 55 Am also using cordless makita tracksaw lately and its very good and powerful .finally like a hatchet carpenter once said to me jeez u got great gear all u need now is someone to show u how to use it. I,m still learning!
@2chipped
@2chipped 3 года назад
At the cabinet shop we have the tsc75, which works fantastic for cutting thick hardwood. Its thicker kerf blades rob power ,but also doesn't deflect. I personally bought the cordless Makita and prefer it over the festoo,l simply for the lack of a cord. I've been working mainly on-site for the last 18 yrs in various trades,cordless is a way of life.
@agentchodybanks9120
@agentchodybanks9120 6 месяцев назад
Festool makes cordless too so your point about Makita is dumb
@2chipped
@2chipped 6 месяцев назад
@@agentchodybanks9120 when I bought it,festool did not have a cordless saw for sale.
@solomonquinn1041
@solomonquinn1041 3 года назад
The mafell tracks are so good. Mafell also make a cordless track saw
@hgohlke
@hgohlke 3 года назад
I have both tracks. Maffel is much better. Also the connector
@paulroth1060
@paulroth1060 3 года назад
i also don‘t get the argument. very subjective. i use mafell cordless/with cord at work from 45-80 awesome machines that just need their own track! 🤷‍♂️ i find the handeling of the mafell machines vs festool more logical/swifter. and the materials, metal finish is just great and sturdy overall. (great if you do building and roofs)
@harveysmith100
@harveysmith100 3 года назад
The Mafell cordless batteries also fit Metabo and vise versa.
@kentbrobeck5140
@kentbrobeck5140 3 года назад
Mafell track is superior to all other brands and puts their MT55 at the top of the track saw class all by itself.
@simonh73
@simonh73 7 месяцев назад
There's alot more 3rd party addons for the Festool track than Mafell that make processing panels much easier. I have Mafell on Festool rails.
@mathewlang5749
@mathewlang5749 6 месяцев назад
I started with the HKC55 when I needed to do a window trim job where I would be cutting a bunch of 1x6 trim and the saw paid for itself on that first job with it. Its a rugged tool that I could toss around without fear. I later picked up a full set of tracks and used that same saw to cut doors. At some point I can see myself stepping up to a full track saw, but I feel like the HKC55 was the better way to get into it. I could be wrong but I think the cordless festools are brushless and the corded tools are brushed motors which require more maintenance.
@JSears121
@JSears121 3 года назад
Mafell is the superior saw, not to mention the tracks. Returned the ts55 and tracks for the mafell mt55 with Bosch tracks and it’s miles better. Build quality takes the cake as well.
@andrewschultz2504
@andrewschultz2504 3 года назад
I have experience with track saws also and wasting money on them. I own 3 2 festool and a dewalt I don’t regret the dewalt at all I use it on both festool tracks and Walt tracks I find it very accurate and have owned it since 2013. I also love my hk55
@gjforeman
@gjforeman 3 года назад
My corded DeWalt TS does all I need with 4 and 8 ft tracks. I have DeWalt router sleds that work quite well with the saw tracks. Dust collection works well. No complaints.
@garyneyenhuis7112
@garyneyenhuis7112 3 года назад
I’ve had a TS 75 since 2012 and it still works great. Have an aluminum blade when I need to cut aluminum.
@johncarne4884
@johncarne4884 3 года назад
I have the Mafell mt55cc started with a festool ts55. I never had any major problems with the saw besides sometimes wanting more power. I hate the festool track for one thing the foam underneath compresses to much giving you a cut past 90 when you want a 90 degree cut. I don’t like the jointing bar it’s horrible to use and the splinter guard is murder to change. I really love my corded Mafell and unless it suddenly died or gave me quality issues I wouldn’t change to anything else. I have worked with the festool cordless for a week on a friends job and it was disappointing power was ok but runtime was kinda bad but he was using 4.0 batteries also I like my dust extraction on and it’s a pain to flick the switch manually every time. Having said that if it wasn’t for the horrible track design I would probably consider the festool ts55 36v with 6.0 Bluetooth batteries. Oh also the Mafell blade moves 0.1mm towards the saw for the saw cut to stop tear out it’s not the lever just built into the plunge the stop is just there for the depth at with it is activated. Thanks for the video always good to hear opinions.
@Keifsanderson
@Keifsanderson 3 года назад
Wanted corded for longevity (occasional user/hobbyist). Tried to save a buck; started with the Makita. Not enough power to cut 3/4 Birch ply with the included blade. Customer support said to get a rip blade for it, but that would leave a rough cut and defeat a benefit of using a track saw. Back it went. Looked at the Festools, but they were underpowered. Bit the bullet and bought the Mafell mt55cc (with Bosch tracks and clamps). Couldn't be happier. So refined and so much power. If you go this route, beware the European ebay sellers of 110v models; Europe's 110v runs on 50hz, where the US runs 60hz. What effect will this have? I don't know. I'm not an electrical engineer.
@dazzz4real
@dazzz4real 3 года назад
I run the HK 85 EQB and it slays everything. Power enough. Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪 and thanks for your opinion.
@skipmcgrath
@skipmcgrath 3 года назад
I have a makita corded for the shop and the jobsite, smaller lighter, more power, and half the price of festool. Use them all the time and never had them serviced.
@hotdog160
@hotdog160 3 года назад
There's also the new metabo 65 mm that works with some other rails. I'll never buy the ts75 . I have the cordless mafell mt55 and it's more powerful than the corded ts55. Mafell is the rolls royce of saws.
@hhanger1
@hhanger1 3 года назад
The DDF40 is also the bees knees. I have one and I'm always looking for an excuse to use it.
@LuneUnion
@LuneUnion Год назад
You know, you didn't sell those track saws, but you did get this video out. Thanks!
@russmartin4189
@russmartin4189 3 года назад
With all due respect for you, because you deserve it, I would like to throw something out there. I was a professional photographer/fine art photographer. The desirable cameras between1968 to 2000 were the pro level Nikons, Canon, and Hasselblad. They were the Festools of cameras, but much more expensive . They gave one an air of professionalism. Did they take better pictures than less expensive ones? Nope. I had been using a twin lens Rolleiflex that didn't have interchangeable lenses. You see them in the old movies of the 50's and 60's. I got mine from my father and I used it all through graduate school while I earned my MFA degree in photography. I became one with that camera. It took thousands of pictures. Fast forward 34 years. I entered many of the pictures I took with that camera in magazines. I earned features in the US, Europe, and Australia. The point is, the equipment doesn't make the art, the artist does. Later, nobody cared what camera I used. The same can be said with power tools. Today, I have a lot of medium grade stuff. It all works fine. It is not Festool, DeWalt, or Milwaukee. It is Wen, Kreg, Makita, and Ryobi. I can afford more since I bought these brands. If they break, they will be cheaper to repair, or I can just buy another one. I don't know how long a Kreg track saw will last. Seems pretty good to me, but it was only $299. How many of those could I buy for the cost of one Festool? AnIt is a good tool, though it is not cordless. How do you want to get to your destination. Do you want to ride in a Rolls Royce,, or a Chevy? Nobody will care as long as you do a good job for them.
@InsiderCarpentry
@InsiderCarpentry 3 года назад
But there is something to be said for if you enjoy driving the car. Part of my thing is...if I’m going to spend every day working I want to enjoy the tools I’m working with. Doesnt man I can’t do it with lesser tools, it’s just a matter of not wanting to. There is a balance.
@russmartin4189
@russmartin4189 3 года назад
@@InsiderCarpentry I get that. Good things make you feel better. When I had my Hasselblad, I thought I was "the man". Now, I own a new F150 with a lot of options. That gives my ego a boost too. I didn't have much when I was a kid, and most had more. That has something to do with it. From seeing how you work though, you need the good stuff. Festool was designed for people like you. Probably at least half of the people out there don't need them though. They have a lot of money, so they buy them to be cool and feed their egos, even though they don't know the front end of a track saw from the back end. Same thing happens with musical instruments.
@andre1987eph
@andre1987eph 2 года назад
Congratulations on your photo career. It’s a passion of mine. I hope you kept you original negatives. I’m 56 now I feel like just as I have life figured out, there is less time left for hobbies such as photography and woodworking
@malikto1
@malikto1 3 года назад
I bought the Makita SP6000K1 over 10 years ago and it's worked flawlessly. The 8' track has been a godsend.
@steenfraosterbro3268
@steenfraosterbro3268 3 года назад
I have all but the Mafell. Did buy the 75 used at a super price and use it pretty seldom. The rest I use and love. Never had a break down on any of them.
@smokingcheeba420
@smokingcheeba420 3 года назад
Your the only finish carpentry videos i take knowledge from. Scott brown second. You da man.
@wilkinsoncarpentry6278
@wilkinsoncarpentry6278 3 года назад
Oh Man U missin out on finish Carpentry TV haha
@smokingcheeba420
@smokingcheeba420 3 года назад
@@wilkinsoncarpentry6278 dfw is green as can be. I want to see him trim this whole house. But hes good and i watch all his videos.
@smokingcheeba420
@smokingcheeba420 3 года назад
Have you ever seen him hang a door? His new video i think all he is doing is paneling a few walls. Other guy is doing stairs. He gave a shout out to insider. I asked who is trimming the rest? Not him i guess. He does great work but he's half carpenter half painter and thats how you make the big bucks.
@sundog8772
@sundog8772 3 года назад
@@smokingcheeba420 If you haven’t seen him, Robin Clevett is great viewing. He doesn’t have many subscribers compared to some others but I haven’t found a carpenter yet with his all round skillset on youtube. He’s got lot’s of experience and advice to give.
@wilkinsoncarpentry6278
@wilkinsoncarpentry6278 3 года назад
@@smokingcheeba420 wow ok mate, I get what you’re saying 👍 Insider Carpentry does everything in the finish Carpentry or whatever but what I’m saying is that finish Carpentry TV is very good at what he does, he’s the first to say he isn’t good at certain projects, he also asks Spencer for advice, my point is , you can learn a lot from his channel.....each to their own 🤙
@ProBuildCarpenter
@ProBuildCarpenter Год назад
Mafell cordless all day long easy change blades, score function and the battery’s last ages
@farfieldamplifiers2635
@farfieldamplifiers2635 2 года назад
As someone who is obsessed with getting the least amount of dust possible in my workshop, I see no point in having cordless saw, because it never gets used without dust extraction anyways. Therefore Mafell is a clear winner for me.
@maxbrap
@maxbrap 3 года назад
I've been using the TSC 55 for 8-9 months. It's a very flexible tool. I actually barely use my cabinet saw anymore unless I'm making a dozen of something. Mostly it's the MFT and the TSC in the van and I'm ready to party
@yo2stix
@yo2stix 3 года назад
I’ve been a long time Festool supporter I’ve pioneered some of their tools and work with their R&D department yearly with the guys from Germany. I found the TSC 55 to be pretty darn awesome I wasn’t a fan at first I’m an old-school corded guy fourth generation builder. But I still keep the TS 75 corded as certain applications only that it can perform. That’s 75 doesn’t come out as much but if I’m doing lots of rips setting up more like a panel saw application don’t wanna deal with batteries and working stationary that’s the saw i use. If I’m doing shorter projects and moving around more on the site the TSC 55 works best.
@samsonacc8081
@samsonacc8081 4 месяца назад
Wait till you try mafell one, you will immediately regret playing all this time with those toys
@Bshwag
@Bshwag 2 года назад
I have been using the ts75 for about 8 years now and I love it. probably helps I'm a big guy but I really like the idea of the hk55.
@rickgreenhalgh1357
@rickgreenhalgh1357 3 года назад
"I leave my festool track saw on the jobsite" my mind is blown.
@markgilder9990
@markgilder9990 3 года назад
Would not leave any tool on a UK job site. Sometimes even the site has been stolen.😂😂
@TheLastPharm
@TheLastPharm 3 года назад
Yeah, I can't figure that one out. The theft/replacement insurance over there must be REALLY affordable.
@Prevailingbucket
@Prevailingbucket 2 года назад
@@TheLastPharm it’s called 1.2 guns per person. Man, woman, child.
@mountainbikerdave
@mountainbikerdave 2 года назад
Im sure it's Locked up in a tool chest
@user-zz8ln3uh5x
@user-zz8ln3uh5x 3 года назад
I hear what you're saying. It's hard to ditch a system once you're into it. I think my TS55 is great but I can see how the Mafell/Bosch tracks are arguably better, especially the track connecting system. I think that the concern about Mafell being a foreign saw is less relevant with battery-powered tools. Mafell can use Metabo batteries with a domestic charger. Timberwolf (a domestic retailer) even recommends doing that. The main downside I see to Mafell is that they're significantly more expensive than even Festool.
@dlevi67
@dlevi67 2 года назад
Festool is as "foreign" as Mafell, since they are both German brands...
@BType13X2
@BType13X2 Год назад
Or you could get a Makita corded saw and save a pile of money. I don't see much of a point in a battery powered tool that you are going to connect to dust collection.
@vincebacon4587
@vincebacon4587 3 года назад
The festool track saws are actually a bit cheaper than I expected, but I still estimate you've spent 6 times what you might've had you bought one makita saw
@EmberLFlack
@EmberLFlack 2 года назад
I am Flackmistress. Spencer, you impress. I replaced my Festool T55 with the cordless Makita, really like it. I also rebuilt the motor in the Festool saw. It's like new again and like you, I need to sell it.
@gmusiclarsen1163
@gmusiclarsen1163 3 года назад
The makita cordless track saw is excellent. The specific blade it comes with will outperform that festool for speed of cut and battery longevity. I also have the corded version for years. No problem and lots of power. Plus makita makes 10 foot track for staightedging etc. I have batteries on many platforms simply because really good tools can't all come from one company. Some companies do certain tools better. For price and quality, makita is an easy choice over festool in my opinion.
@BType13X2
@BType13X2 Год назад
I am on 2 battery platforms and genuinely wish we had legislation that forced the batteries to be universal between all tool brands. It is anti competetive and your battery platform has a large impact on the tools you buy. For many years I was team Teal for all my tools, Makita's lack of a 3" battery powered framing nailer caused me to go and invest into Milwaukie with 2 batteries, now I am on both platforms. I like the doors it opened but am genuinely frustratred that I had to buy red team batteries / chargers. And I am aware there are battery adapters, I just haven't had good luck with them lasting or not damaging tools.
@krenwregget7667
@krenwregget7667 3 года назад
I would encourage people to watch AvE do his tear down of the Festool TS 55 before purchasing one. My money was better spent on Makita.
@tonymarrazzo354
@tonymarrazzo354 3 года назад
I love my Makita, which also will do a scoring cut.
@zack9912000
@zack9912000 3 года назад
This. AVE shows what is clear as day festool are all marketing bs and clueless fan boys. They can't compete with a real contractor tool.
@djvasforever
@djvasforever 3 года назад
I have a 12 year old Festool TS 55 REBQ, yes, it does have some wear and tear on it, but has never needed any repairs. Used a Makita track saw a couple of years ago, was prone to kickback, didn't like it, maybe it's simply because my hands are so used to this Festool and using it without a track I experience no kickback issues at all. But if you don't have a Festool, Makita is a good buy for sure. And tracks are interchangeable which is nice.
@wakeupmofoers691
@wakeupmofoers691 3 года назад
aah the bumblefac tech master, i will see
@RockitFX1
@RockitFX1 3 года назад
@@zack9912000 I've been using the same Festool track saw on the jobsite for 6 or 7 years, and it's never had to be serviced.
@bufunga
@bufunga 3 года назад
Garandthumb style. Nice
@InsiderCarpentry
@InsiderCarpentry 3 года назад
After watching enough of his videos I really dig his intros. I think I’m gonna have to steal it once in a while. 👌👊
@Jason-uz8hj
@Jason-uz8hj 3 года назад
I love that there are other guys that crossover from Garandthumb to all the carpenter guys I watch
@bufunga
@bufunga 3 года назад
@@Jason-uz8hj same
@running0free
@running0free 3 года назад
I was hoping that was a nod to flannel daddy
@wayneberry5254
@wayneberry5254 3 года назад
I'm also almost all Dewalt cordless.Have used Festool track saw many times.I ended up buying the Makita tracksaw a few years ago and love it, works great, has a few features Festool doesn't have and less money for a great saw.
@timcc001
@timcc001 3 года назад
I've used the Festool TS75 to cut rough 8/4 maple and white oak - no problems.
@bret9741
@bret9741 3 года назад
I wonder why Festool doesn’t update both saws and batteries. I’m new to Festool. Recently purchased the 36 AC vac for my large clean up and drywall work. I purchased the 6” Rotex for refinishing stair treads and or large surfaces; the Rotex 90 3.5” with the rounds and triangle sander pads. So far, these sanders are on a factor of 3-4x more productive than my previous brand. The vacuum……. Well it’s down right transformational. The dust on the job site is almost non existent. I do have the Makita 36v track saw and the 36v 10” compound miter. I really like both. Im looking for a couple of new routers. Right now neither of mine have dust collection but one runs off my Milwaukee 18v batteries which is handy. Finally, I’m looking for a smaller lighter miter saw. I prefer shadow line saws over laser line. Makita has a new 40 amp 8.5 compound miter Im wondering about. Well thanks for the video and your experiences
@kiwdwks
@kiwdwks 3 года назад
Been thinking about the cordless Festool. Great to know you approve. Thanks!
@garrettlund
@garrettlund 3 года назад
After my ts55 motor burned up i took leap on the dewalt as I had the batteries and dam it’s incredible... so much power and the cordless part is the best for small jobs not having to hook up to a cord or vac
@y0utube5uxx
@y0utube5uxx 3 года назад
7:09 that's the problem. The Mafell tracks are so much superior to the Festool tracks. The AF-1 alone is worth having a Mafell saw. Running a Mafell on Festool tracks is pretty much the same as driving a Ferrari off-road.
@M30263
@M30263 Год назад
Thanks for the insight Spencer! I almost made the very same mistake this morning when I went to Rockler. 🤦‍♂️ As a tool nut and the Toolman Taylor mentality where bigger is better!?! It’s akin to grocery shopping on a empty stomach or a kid in a candy store. 😂
@robertmerrill4326
@robertmerrill4326 3 года назад
Using tracks with the festool 75 and a metal blade has obsoleted my metal devil. I've ripped 10' sheets 3/16 aluminum. Over a decade of service and still cuts like a champ, wish I could say the same for their vacuum.
@stephenwhite3343
@stephenwhite3343 3 года назад
I love my Maffel, but I do use the Maffel tracks. Switching all of the accessories is more costly than the tool in many cases. Especially if you are cordless. I'm glad that I chose Maffel over the Festool, but they are more expensive here in England.
@ethanboggio3314
@ethanboggio3314 3 года назад
Buy a Makita Spencer. It comes with 2 5ah batteries and a dual charger. Charge time is super quick and saw is all around awesome! Like you brother! Don't let a battery platform hold you back from a great tool. I look forward to your Makita track saw review! lol
@justgregnow
@justgregnow 3 года назад
I have the dewalt track saw, it's great! Does everything I need and has awesome power.
@revg2608
@revg2608 3 года назад
I have the cordless TS55 batteries must be full otherwise-NO GO. However, it works great! I also have the TS75 and outside of being heavy, it’s a dream. I just cut out a floor (3 layers of floor), and to my surprise the TS75 NO struggle at all. Also, I used my TS55 for same application and it worked too. The plus about the TS55 -NO CORD 👍🏿. Both are great! Lots of $$$$
@mattstout610
@mattstout610 3 года назад
I had the Dewalt corded, hated the track and the plunge motion sold it. Bought the Festool corded, hated the cord, sold it. Bought the Makita cordless, nothing but love all around.
@Asgardsteve1
@Asgardsteve1 3 года назад
The Mafell comes with its own track when you buy it, The festool TS55 is good but the batteries run down quite quickly with one losing its charge before the other one. When this happens you have no chance of cutting sheet material as it struggles to rotate the blade to cut through the material.
@RonKillian
@RonKillian 3 года назад
Good video Spencer. Another take away here could be, if you cut sheet goods alot and can afford a track saw, get one now. What a difference. I've had the Makita cordless for a while and just recently got around to using it.. OMG, why did I wait? What a dream way to break down plywood. I use to use a emerson clamp and a circular saw, what a pain, to many ways to mess up the cut. With a track saw, you lay the track on your marks and cut, that easy. Plus the saw says on "track" for the entire cut. I was going back and forth about makita corded or cordless. But since I had the one battery makita brushless circular, that cut great, I knew the dual battery would do me fine. It does, rips up plywood with no struggle. Of course it depends on what you are doing, but the track saw has been one of the best tools I've bought in a long time.
@BType13X2
@BType13X2 Год назад
I come from a welding background and used track cutters so the concept of a track saw was pretty easy to pick up on. Reality is a tracksaw is as good and as accurate as you are. For a few years I used a Kreg accucut and had a makita sidewinder saw in the jig. Every cut I made with that was accurate as I set it up to be, and I was usually accurate to 1/16". Recently I went and bought a corded Makita track saw. (why buy cordless when I am going to connect it to dust collection anyway?) I wish I would have bought a "real" tracksaw earlier. My choice of brand has more to do with spending money intelligently. Is the Festool a nicer saw than the Makita? I don't think so but some people say yes. Now is the festoll Saw 500$'s nicer than the Makita (local price.) Absolutely not. Thats like buying a Snapon Box wrench instead of a Williams. Both do the same thing both have hastle free return warranty but one costs 40-50% more. Again I don't mind splurging on a nice tool , but it has to be because it offers me something that is far superior for that premium price.
@ILruffian
@ILruffian Год назад
Great video. Thanks for taking the time to make it. I have the Festool TS 55KEB. Love it. New Festool 60 w/ scoring blade coming soon.
@jamesconnors5653
@jamesconnors5653 3 года назад
Festool works, can't complain, but game definitely changed when had a rolling cut table fabricated. Store and cut sheet goods on it. Works well.
@kevinpunter7960
@kevinpunter7960 3 года назад
I hear you .. I have TS55, TSC55, TS75, HKC55, HK85 .. then I've got a full CMS setup for the TS75 and the outrageously expensive trenching setup for the HK85. Tracks for the TS's and the HK's? Loads of them! Now I'm faced with a need for a cordless circular saw with a greater depth of cut than 55 :( ... Looks like a Dewalt is likely coming! Buying a generator could be on the cards too.
@SubaruRob1
@SubaruRob1 3 года назад
Also Mafell uses the CAS battery system. It’s a system that can use something like 8 other manufactures batterys, all who also have the cas system.
@johnwoodcock9718
@johnwoodcock9718 3 года назад
Thanks for your honesty, and that ts75 will be a collector's piece in a few years time
@Burritosarebetterthantacos
@Burritosarebetterthantacos 2 года назад
Battery powered makita router and tracksaw are two of the best investments ive made
@richardfettig5974
@richardfettig5974 2 года назад
I have use a old Milwaukie 7 1/4 and a clamping straight edge ...seem to work fine for me , just to cut down full sheets for the table saw .. 45 years a custom woodworker ,old saw is still going great.
@garydenley1027
@garydenley1027 3 года назад
Been using makita corded track saws for years and they are great to use. More power than festool corded 55 or 75.
@MarcosElMalo2
@MarcosElMalo2 Год назад
Tracksaw party at Spencer’s house! Woohoo!
@1320crusier
@1320crusier 3 года назад
AvE has done a full tear down review of the Festool track saw. its.. not pretty. Granted its been a few years so bits may have changed but the particular model he tore into had some surprising corners cut.
@dwarden3
@dwarden3 2 года назад
Convert the corded to a panel saw like I did! It's fantastic for it.
@joshgamez3685
@joshgamez3685 3 года назад
Dewalt Tracksaw all day. The thing is an absolute monster.
@trig
@trig 3 года назад
I rip 35mm oak10 to 14 times a week and with a sharp Festool blade the TS55's power is adequate. However when ever I have a Festool blade sharpened they never seem to be as good as a brand new blade.
@MrSpzwd
@MrSpzwd 2 года назад
I started with EZ Smart on the job site using a Bosch circular saw I got free on a promotion and a vertical panel saw (a little used one). Both worked great. When I semi retired I got rid of both and went with a track saw. I started with DeWalt. It was really poor quality. Lots of bearing noise and local DeWalt repair shop said that's common. Returned it. Looked at festool but they had recently discontinued this first attempt at cordless and has issues with the ts55 at that time. Ended up with grizzly. Swapped out their spring which was too stiff but otherwise have been happy with it. Wish they had a single track long enough for long rips but their sections go together fine. Good service too. If you're just straight line ripping rough boards or breaking down sheet goods it does the job.
@glavardera
@glavardera 2 года назад
Not sure about your recommendations - to me it sounded like the take-away was go with Mafell saws and track from the start. Mafell has corded and battery saws for track and carpentry saws. Mafell has multiple sizes of the carpentry type saws. Mafell uses the Metabo battery system and there is a much broader selection of tools on their battery system than Festool. Bosch and Metabo saws also use the same track. Metabo just released a similar carpentry saw.
@josearango8838
@josearango8838 2 года назад
Thanks for your help
@talaven
@talaven 3 года назад
I greatly appreciate your review and advice. I am in the market for a track saw and was leaning towards the corded Festool as I "assumed" it would have more power. Thank you for saving me the grief.
@NDB390
@NDB390 3 года назад
I really like my Makita track saw. I do have a FestoolHKC and also love that lil track saw. I really disliked the DeWalt, as I found it awkward to use. One thing I dislike about Festool, is I don’t live near anyplace that carries them and all my blades I have to order and stock for just in case.
@ScottClevelandmi
@ScottClevelandmi 2 года назад
Similar problem… I bought the festol because it was the only thing on the market. About a year later there were three or four of them I could purchase. Fortunately I didn’t buy another one. Still like the saw though…
@jeffreycarlson1882
@jeffreycarlson1882 3 года назад
I've had a similar 5-year long series of experiences with track saws. In the end, I ended up with four - two for the jobsite and two for the shop. For the jobsite I keep a TSC 55 and a HKC 55. For the workshop I keep a TSC 55 and a TS 75. Having the HKC 55 is a great substitute for a miter saw in a lot of cases. I work alone, so it allows me to take a small tool to the material, rather than moving a lot of material to a large-enough space to set up a miter saw. I ended up with the TS 75 for use on custom pieces using 8/4 hardwoods. It's a bit of a beast for everyday use. I try to use the smallest tool possible for the job just so I don't tire out as quickly. I'm surprised anyone would think it's underpowered, though. It's got enough power that it can be dangerous if not used correctly.
@InsiderCarpentry
@InsiderCarpentry 3 года назад
Having the proper blade is key. To many teeth and any track saw can seem underpowered in my experience.
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