Na its because rock climbers need muscular endurance to grip for hours and whistlin diesel works on cars which needs muscular power to undo nuts and bolts that hold trucks together and thats only for a couple seconds at a time
Another thing as a climber not all climbers have the strongest grip strength like mine is quite weak but we understand the mechanics of how are fingers and whole body works so we don’t need to be able to have hood grip strength not that it doesn’t help wish mine was better
I also noticed that it looked like whistlin diesel trained for this or something😂😂, but alex nonchalantly holds it while reading it, it didnt look like was really putting any effort in...
If you look closely even though his arm is not straight down like WD the device is shaking so I would say he is doing close to his best. So no I don’t think he could get close to the 150 range. Just my opinion. Hope everyone has a great day.
@@ven4762 and likewise whistlindiesel or whatever isn't making it very far up even the easiest free solo routes. You think Honnold trains grip strength, or even cares about that number? Almost like people who train for skills get better at them...
@@Darth_Patatoe well that's bollocks, if you've ever tried climbing you'd know you need strength and power. It doesnt matter how little you weigh, gravity always weighs the same
No it's different types of strength the most grip strength you will find is in mechanics anyone who turns wrenches for a living. All be it he may make RU-vid videos he's a gearhead who turns wrenches makes cool stuff and makes videos of the cool stuff. Mose athletes have their entire physique built around their sport climbers are thin and light they don't have a lot of muscle because they don't have a lot of weight.
@@NuKe0clan0cod0videosAlex weighs 160lbs. He is capable of jumping to a higher position and holding himself with 1 hand alone. It is physically impossible that his grip strength is half of his own body weight if he has shown to be able to effortlessly hold himself with one arm
I also feel like there’s a difference between holding a grip at a specific weight and max strength. I can easily out wall sit people that can squat double of what I can.
@@SuperStructnot really. Stronger for a moment yea. Im a mechanic too, i promise you i cant hold myself on a mountain without gear for as long as alex. So maybe be humble all of you
@@joooooonasssss Climbing requires isometric finger strength generally which is a lot different then closed grip squeezing strength. Climbers generally rely on flexor and tendon strength that enables them to hold a fixed hand position while hanging on extremely small edges, sometimes as small as 5mm. Here what he is doing is super impressive but he is using his full hand in a concentric squeezing motion as well as focusing his force far closer to the PIP joint of his fingers vs how a climber generally exerts force.
@@haltorne6647 no. His sport is bodyweight based and endurance based. He only has the arm strength that's necessary to carry himself to great heights, that has nothing to do with pure strength. I'm betting the RU-vidr in this situation couldn't hang as long as the rock climber.
Thing is, I never saw these things as validation, just as boys being boys. I would grip the shit out of that machine, and then wait patiently to see who "beats" me.
whistilin diesel doesnt either, just cause soleone does it doesnt nean there trying to impress anyone. hes just showin, alex doesnt have a tank..nor a un plugged one. or w monster truck, or many more so
As a climber, most of us don’t actually have super strong grip strength. We’re actually taught how to grip only as strongly as necessary while climbing, so you conserve energy.
@@anthonydeveno4567 no that would mean he can sustain a less amount of power for a longer period of time that doesn’t make him stronger it makes him more conditioned unlike your brain
Cody still used one hand though. Still 186 lbs is a lot. I’ve done this when I was younger I’m 24 now when I was 17 I hit 50-60 lbs. and I’m 24 and I hit 130
@@ben_pedelty another dumb musclehead, Alex has better endurance and can hold his grip for hours while whistling had to put all of his strength in one pull
For those wondering, grip strength does not equal to endurance. Sure Whistling has a stronger grip but he can’t hold that grip strength for more than a couple seconds before passing out. However Alex can hold that strong 90-100lbs for hours, hence why is really good climber for being able to hold himself on those climbs for as long as he can. Also those rock climbers have stronger fingers than actual grip strength.
I dont think so. The issue is that the device tests forearm powered grip strength. Not finger tendon grip strength. Theres a difference, and rock climbers use finger tendon grip strength more than forearm grip strength.
@@GrandmasterFlex I can deadlift 700lbs +. I can make it look easy. That doesn't mean it is. Making great force look effortless is exactly athletes do. Also, I know his squeeze grip sucks because the forearms are one muscle that always grows in size when strengthened. They don't have a "lengthened" position besides bending back which is limited by your wrist structure. His forearms aren't much larger than his wrists. His squeeze grip sucks. That's ok. That doesn't make him week. Just better at different things.
That don’t mean nothing, I work on railway and grip strength test is done each year for health checks. Myself and another skinny guy do about 180, most the other guys are between 80 and 120
Bruh Alex weigh 160-165 and is 5'11" he's average sized, quite literally. He is intentionally not gripping it strongly. Also look at the difference in grip technique lol, whistling uses a form that allows you a stronger grip while Alex does it in a very casual way
Jesus guys, you're all wrong. The issue is finger tendon strength (climber grip) vs forearm strength (squeeze grip). That device only tests the latter, which climbers dont need to and generally dont train
@@zekeolopwi6642yep. While the farmer, which most seem to forget whistling was until blowing up, work forearm and grip endurance/strength for 12hr days. There's a reason the exercise, farmers carry, received its name and why it's known for blowing up grip strength as an exercise. When you look at power lifting or strong man training, a lot of the exercises have roots in movements you experience doing hard labor. Same reason almost any blue collar labor worker destroys this test too. Those jobs build functional strength with much higher weight load for longer durations than a climber ever would see on any targeted body part. Also have to remember that a lot of the weight is pretty distributed between the legs and arms unless you're hanging from a ledge as a climber.
@@catfan__ You must have never done a sport, because excess force weakens you in seconds. That is why Honnold doesnt need to be a boldy builder. Instead, he is very thin and his grip strength is exactly enough for what he needs.
I don’t think excess force tires you. Using excess energy does. The point of training endurance is to make the muscle stronger and more efficient. So the muscle will be able to produce the same amount of power (or more) by using less resources. Honnold got asked to go for maximum power. He had no reason to hold back.
Well I agree with the endurence thing but his grip is stronger that the military style guy, I belive I saw a kg on Alex's machine meaning his machine was in kilo while the military style guy's in pounds.🤔 185 pounds = 83,9 kg Military guy did it with his strongest hand going full strength Alex did 72kg (=158,73 pounds) with weak hand and 94,8 kg with strong hand meaning 208,99 pounds. Also he did it with ease unlike the first guy
he’s so humble😭 and it’s not excuses for why he got such a low number you can clearly tell he’s being humble look at the difference in the way whistling tries his very hardest and how alex looks as if he barely tries
It's actually the healthy adult male average. Lower would be signs of current and upcoming health problems. I thought it was low to, less than half my own... looked it up though. His is normal.
Also, Im pretty sure it's a bit of a different kind of grip strenght needed for climbing(depending a bit on the kind of hold you're doing), compared to like deadlifting or strenght training in general.
The way Alex did it is in a semi resting position the way diesel did it is straight down all muscles engaged but still big props to diesel for that grip strength
Alex also did it in a position to curl where whistlin was holding his arm straight down allowing for a far different muscle group engagement, so this comparison is straight bullshit. I'm over 200 on both hands holding it like whistlin and only 60s holding it like Alex. That makes me think Alex would destroy him if they did a proper comparison.
@@AshenAlphaI have manual (spring) grip trainers and i can click the handles together at 60kg (132lb) in both hands in the curl position for 3 sets of 10 reps. Forearm circumference only around 11" at the largest and I'm far from cut. I could probably get close to WD's max with my arm straight down and I'm built like a slightly thinner Andy Milonokis
@@DPain82I don’t think he’s that skinny, I believe he’s around 155lbs. His grip strength might not be crazy but he’s INSANELY strong in ways that most humans are not. Their is footage of him hanging off a several thousand foot cliff with one hand while he rests the other. This is a man that has free climbed a 3000 foot granite cliff with nothing but his strength in less than 4 hours. In my opinion, Alex’s free climb of El Captain is the most impressive Physical feat that Man has ever done. My comment isn’t supposed to be argumentative by the way, I just wanted to inform and give some people who see this a little bit of insight on who Alex Honnold is and what he has accomplished and what he is capable of.
Soldier dude gave it every fiber in he’s body, in a power stance. The climber, pressed that thing pretty casually with bend arms, while talking casually not having to take a Hard breath.
@@TheOnlyJoshHdude was like 100 miles from his home so guessing based of what we know it was actually an accident cause chaff aka what's left after corn is harvested aka the corn field he drove through has a low ignition point and is dry allowing it to be easily flammable allowing the heat from an engine to start a fire if it was pressed against it in volume like you can see also the friction from the brakes etc would also cause ignition
What no one realizes is that Alex is our spiderman in the multiverse. He has to hold back his grip or he would destroy the tester and risk exposing himself.
I have the same brand of grip tester as well. If it's adjusted badly, IE the handle almost fully extended like Alex honnald's is, it bottoms out and won't go past 80-100. Properly adjusted you can get better numbers. Also grip strength doesn't necessarily equate to crimp or edge holding strength either which is more what climbers end up training unless they're working on pinch style holds
I remember watching Free Solo just watching him climb El Capitain with no safety gear is inspiring. The amount of planning that went into that was insane.
He himself also often said that his upper body strength is way behind that of many climbers he knows. But as you said with technique that isn't a problem. 95% of the time you just hold onto the wall so you don't fall and push yourself up with your feet. No extraordinary grip strength necessary.
My friend bought one of those and took it to school and tested all of his teachers and our shop teacher has been an ironworker his whole career tested at 283.6lbs
Alex is an endurance climber. This actually isn't surprising. Alex is small and has a low body weight, with what he does, his body doesn't need crazy strength, his forearms are trained to carry a little weight a long way. Where as whistlendielsel could carry a heavy weight for a little time. Your body adapts to what you train it for
good display of difference between fast and slow muscle twitch. WD being a fast twitch that can’t be held for long periods and Alex’s obviously vice versa
True. Also Alex was using it to test resting grip strength while diesel was using more muscles and exerting more overall energy to do it as hard as he could
WhistlinDeisel also works with cars a lot, he has hands that where designed to grab hard onto things. Alex can lock that grip in for hours on end though. Strong but in short bursts, and still strong but in extremely long periods.
Alex is perfect for climbing, every climber ever has respect for alex, he isnt built for strength in bulk, he walks a fine line between strength and agility
Man based off the comments you can tell how many people have never done hard manual labor 🤣 i had 236 when i was 20. Working in a factory throwing 6000, 200 Lb engine blocks work 12 days on, 2 days off for a few years. In 115-140 degree heat. Man i dont miss that shit. Did it for like 6 years, quit recently. Kinda makes me want to try climbing tbh
Yeah those testers are pretty dumb, one of my buddies brought that thing to work and my out of shape mechanic ass can do 170lb with minimal effort and I know both these dudes way stronger than me
@@juicygalaxy773 lol I'm not that out of shape I guess, could use to lose 15-20lb but I can still bench two plates with no problem. Gotta get on my cardio game and lose some weight.
Yes bur Diesel also used the force of his arm while alex only used his fingers, If you push your forearm down into a squeeze you are getting both the force from your palm and fingers while alex held it straight and kept his forearm bent meaning the applied force was only coming from his fingers
Pretty good at arm wrestling too. I'm not very big but back in the day when I was still on the tools I was at a party with ~8 other tradies and labourers where for some reason everyone started doing arm wrestles, I beat all of them both left and right handed 😂 some of them actually started to get angry 😂
I knew a guy that had a 250lbs hand grip strength trainer. No one could do it but him. Many of us couldn't do it with both arms pushing inward. He held 2 black belts in judo and aikido. We were just kids so it was incredibly impressive. He was an airmen, then a state trooper for 20 years. Retired by 45 and he started a gym(as you would). Dude was 6'2 280lbs and not fat at all. Had certificates for killing bad guys and saving lives. I know it's all hard to believe but these people are real. He one night got wasted on the town, went on a rampage and destroyed a car with his bare hands. It looked like it had been hit by an 18 wheeler. He paid for the damages so no charges were filed.
Yeah, this is a dumb dumbs video of wanna be masculinity...good job farmer mechanic, on being a nobody.. while Alex is out here free climbing the matterhorn lmfao.
And? 1. It wasn't a competition. It's just two random clips that some guy compiled together to make it look like they were competing. 2. Literally everybody who uses this thing in any of the RU-vid videos I've seen about it puts all their hand/ arm strength into it. That's what you supposed to do, it is supposed to test your maximum grip potential. The fact that the mountain climber did not do it right, means literally nothing but ...he didn't do it right. Apparently it didn't matter enough to him to really bother with it, which is perfectly fine.
yall sensitive as fuck 😂. whistlindiesel is just some dude who fucks around with cars and yall comparing him to one of if not the greatest rock climbers ever. softies
Notice how Mr diesel was trying his little heart out while Mr Free solo was cool, calm, and collected, all while talking through his hand squeeze. Also notice how his whole body wasn't shaking either. Very impressive! Free solo doesn't have anything to prove to any body except him self.
Okay, so let whislindeisel guy take a leisurely climb up El Capitan without ropes with his super grip strength. Amazing that Alex can still climb like that with such huge bawlz
Alex could have probably went over 200, he just doesn’t care about impressing people with how hard he can squeeze 😂 he’s much bigger than whistelindiesel
And maintain that strength - at risk of life - for hours climbing without a rope, nor any equipment that will safe your life. It is the same as letting a gym-bro fight a martial artist. Without technique and proper training, all that strength goes nowhere.
I’m more impressed by the guy who free solos a cliff face two and a half size the times of the empire state building than the guy who can squeeze harder, but hey maybe that’s just me
yeah you’re very rarely overhand gripping using your forearms in climbing, but rather using the connective tissue, FDP and FDL to contract the fingers. not to mention that they only really need to hold their bodyweight which isn’t much compared to the loads ur average power lifter handles.
@@billyrussell7789 well yes and no to the last point, since for example hanging from a pocket one handed requires obviously much greater force per digit than body weight
The diesel guy had the thing sized for his hand. Alex squeezed it while it was set for someone with small hands(his hands are large) and Alex didn’t even use his thumb. Unfair comparison.
Massive difference between how they squeezed and the effort. The first guy popped a hernia fist down while the second barely tried pulling with his fingers rather than a fist. No comparison
