Whitby Goth Weekend October 2022 full walking tour | [4K] 

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Bit of Steampunk going on.

Half hearted shite

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Well said Ben totally agree.

Mmm agree, but when all said WGW has become a victim of it's own success.

@@AntonDelgado-f6x I blame the Steam Punks. They created the wrong impression what the weekend was.

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Plenty of goths there, no problem with people putting their own spin on it

​@@moviehell8971 The vast majority that go now are not Goths. Dressing up twice a year and just walking around Whitby in fancy dress, does not make you a Goth, or put a spin on it.

@@RAMSEYM2402 and who cares, people can do whatever they want. You don't have to be a goth to celebrate gothic culture and those who only dress up twice a year wouldn't claim to be either. All the real goths who go love it.

@@moviehell8971 Goths care, because its them that now have to pay inflated prices and room in hotels. I've nothing against fancy dress, but it would be better if tge did it on different days of the year.

It has been like this from the start as a sort of add-on to the Goth music events.

Sadly it was not about dressing up but been who you were. Most Goths wore what they did anywhere else but most of this lot don't do this at home. Sad what it's become.

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Not a backcombed hair in sight.🤣

Many of the ones I knew who had gone from the begging started dropping off from 2009 but the straw that broke WGW was when they lost the Spa. It's pretty much just a pub venue now. Many of the old crowd go to Tomorrow's Ghost instead.

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Sadly this is what happens when Joe public try and "join in", like the local village drunkard at the village fayre. At least in Germany Goth festivals, the Germans leave the Goths to get on with it and doing try and "join in".

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Sadly that started happening years ago and has just avalanched each year by more and more people saying "I fancy doing that next year..." with no actual understanding that this was a Gothic music festival. None of them are members of the Goth scene but just people who think they are "a bit mad and loopy".

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But it's not called Goth and alternative dress weekend. Where on Earth did you get that idea.

@@andybuchan9362 what's it called them because it definitely is not called goth weekend anymore

@@Urbanvik1ng the music event, at the Spa Pavilion, is called Tomorrow's Ghosts. The rest, apart from some independent events, comes under the broad banner of Whitby Goth Weekend. Nobody uses the term "alternative dress." As a Goth, I have no "alternative" to the way I dress, so the term makes no sense.

@@andybuchan9362 so what about all the steampunk that has out grew goths,it is not goth weekend anymore fact

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I totally agree.

It's a fucking circus. :(

We stopped going when the Res shut down the cellar it was rubbish after that. Now its just who can have the best fancy dress outfit to pose for the photographers.

@@BlackDahlia776 I hated my photo taken by people I did not know. We have not been since 2015 and since WGW lost the Spa and our favourite club stopped (Nostalgia) doubt we will again. It was perfect in 2008/2009, as usual ruined by people not even on the scene.

Definitely do not agree with goths or anyone draping themselves over gravestones in the cemetery.

These aren't Goths. The few people I know who still go to Whitby Goth Weekend (for the bands) avoid this part of town. This is a circus of attention seekers who don't know what Goth is.

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Obviously they do not know the difference…

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This is not Goth.

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I'm not sure if they are even what I would call Steam Punk as that scenes pretty dead now. Just people in costume.

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These aren't Goths.

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Joe public trying to "join in" and getting it completely wrong...

@@benfletcher9659 Those that go to this Fancy Dress show wont have heard of Jo Hampshire who arranged the first meeting of 40 pen pal's meeting in the Elsinore in 1994. Its lost its soul and is just a money making racket for Whitby. It needs a name change don't call it a Goth Festival when it isn't one. The real Goth festivals are in Germany with the M'era Luna being my favourite.

@@BlackDahlia776 I first went in 2008, which I think was the tail end of how the original festival was. Went in 2009 and then had a 5 year break. Returned in 2014 and 2015 but was not the same. Now that WGW lost the Spa, doubt we will go back. I have sort of gone of Goth, it's no longer a scene but a fancy dress.

@@BlackDahlia776 I knew her and so did loads of people I knew. Most of the public won't know there is a music festival on in the evening. They think it's dress up and walk about town and have picture taken. I think a lot of them have had midlife crises and fancy themselves "a bit mad and loopy", as opposed to any real Goth mindset. 99% of them would not do this at home.

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Real Goths do, that's who. Now inflated prices, too busy and not a Goths weekend.

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The Steam Punk crowd started showing up in the mid to late 2000's, mostly walked around as it's not a very music based scene. Had quite over the top outfits, people took their photos, which circulated and the public though it was a fancy dress weekend and "joined in" it's just avalanched more out of control each year. Shame as when it was just the Goths is was a bloody good weekend.

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Such as Whitby Goth Weekend has become. Nothing "Goth" about it now. If you want Goth, go to Germany.

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Not really expressing themselves though are they, you think they would have the balls to do this at home? Whitby was about a week of bands, clubs, markets. People there wore what they did anywhere else.

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I disagree, if everyone went prices would increase, it would be very hard to find cheap accommodation, it would be too busy and it would cease been a Goth weekend, oh wait, it has.

@@benfletcher9659 It's not my personal idea of a 'goth weekend' either but still great fun to see people celebrate Victoriana, English history, the gothic aesthetic and gothic-horror literature. For some, the music scenes of their youth are continually paid homage to and that DIY anti-establishment artpunk vibe is the most sacred aspect of their interpretation of a 'goth weekend'. What everybody is there for is none of my business. I'll always find things that make sense to me and are worth celebrating and participating in. At least the gently curious, festive 'normies' of all ages are there with good energy and a kind curiosity about it all instead of an ugly, goofy menacing ridicule of the participants. Whether the people there want to trade rare 'Part 1' 7 inches with me, chat about gothic literature or just sit and have a beer and talk to my husband about the Industrial Revolution and steam engines...all cool with me. I'm too old to keep nursing a fiercely proprietorial attitude to any 'authentic scene' for 'genuine goths' nor am I concerned about lack of cheap accommodation. If you're personally thinking of going, return to this thread and I'll personally reserve reasonably priced accommodation for you and your party-- it's my forte and I'd be be quietly thrilled to triumph on your behalf. I'm glad festivals like this bring so much international interest and income to independent businesses in and around Whitby. Goth weekend is only twice a year, unless I'm mistaken and it's changed to just once. Each to their own and I hope you have a fantastic 2023 doing what you most enjoy as often as you can. ✌🦇

@@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293 I and many others who attended, feel it's no longer a Goth weekend but a Cosplay, which I would normally have no issues about if it has not been at the expense of this truly brilliant music festival. York would have been a far better place to have held a costume event and left Whitby to the Goths, in what was a quiet, cheap out of season holiday. I don't go anymore due to the above reasons but most things I knew from a Goth perspective have changed, not for the better. Happy 2023 to you too.

@@benfletcher9659 I think we'd agree on far more than we'd disagree on. It definitely has a goofy cosplay element now and the substance just isn't there anymore. I could not agree with you more. This happened to the punk scenes I grew up in too; the slick Californian pop punk corporate nerds wanting to be 'rock stars' in cahoots with uptight academic rich kids dominating the scenes with their suffocating identity politics/scenester behavioural policing along with their glossy overproduced fanzines ruined the entire thing beyond recognition and it just all died a slow undignified death. Whitby Goth festival is very generalised now and the net has been cast so wide. There's just no connection, no running narrative when it comes to 'goth' as you and I both understood and knew it, that much is clear. It's all very corporate and mainstream; just like the goofy social media/RU-vid kids asking with a straight face 'Can you be goth if you don't like the music?' What on Earth has happened to humans for them to ask something so monumentally empty-headed?! I could facepalm and cry at the same time at this absurd superficial, purely cosmetic fashion-trend nonsense. There's no substance and the past sure is another country; we DEFINITELY did things different there. These kids have no idea what it was all about, going by what I've seen and heard in this era. The internet is largely responsible for this destruction but the entire recipe eludes me. Things sure have changed and so much NOT for the better. Anyhow, good vibes for 2023, must not rant and cry into my coffee like a cliched punk...😉🤣🤣

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What's a "Goth" then ?

@@mooncat.787 easier to describe what it isn't. Steampunk and babies wearing fangs.

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Traditionally 1997-2007ish there were only about 1000-1200 Goths who went, its too busy now and the locals don't like it. The Goth scene has declined in the last 10-15 years, yet Whitby is busier every year. Somehow I don't think a lot of these people are 'Goths'. Goth is a subculture, a life style. Wearing a costume for one weekend a year is called Cosplay not 'Goth'.

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Ci sono gotici che vestono "normalmente". Tutto sta' nella musica, il resto è il contorno. Non scoraggiarti per ciò che ti dicono, sii sempre te stesso/a 🥰

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Are you someone who wants to go for the Goth bands, clubs (assuming there are any left that is), markets and to meet up with friends in a lovely old town. Or someone who wants to parade around is a costume to get their photo taken and has no idea what Goth is?

@@benfletcher9659 Did it all 30 years ago and loved it.... I now love life rather than labels ... :)

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It was originally a music festival, in 1994 people in the UK Goth subculture arranged to meetup in Whitby, out of season so was quiet and cheap. They chose Whitby as it had some relevance to the Goth subculture (e.g. Dracula). For 5 days it was a series of live bands, clubs and markets that attracted about 1300 Goths twice a year in April and October. Then around the mid 2000's Steam Punks started attending and would wear some very elaborate costumes, people started taking their pictures. These pictures circulated and over time more photographers turned up, circulating even more photos that attracted more people (most of whom simply walked around town and didn't attend the Goth events). Eventually going away in October was no longer out of season, so more people would go to Whitby, which has caused prices to inflate. Many people said photos and now dress up, so it's just avalanched out of control to what you see here and isn't really a Goth weekend. It didn't help that the main organiser then lost the main venue, so pretty much confined to a pub now. I can't see the original weekend lasting much longer and Tomorrows Ghost will be the main event but on a different weekend. Sad really as it was a brilliant event.

@@benfletcher9659 may i ask how you know all that ? are you from there ? im from texas and id really like to go see it.

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@@FilipinainUK Very good job. Well done.

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You must, its an experience

We were thinking that too..Thanks for watching

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Goth is'nt about dressing up though, 99% of these people aren't Goth.

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No we only went there for a day trip and it was Saturday. Thanks for watching

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Real Goths ignore cameras, this lot feel self conscious about it in case their boss sees them.

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Goth weekend is twice a year, April and Halloween weekend. Thanks for watching

Goth Weekend is April and October unfortunately not been able to go since I was taken ill! From Covid last year and still struggling with long Covid effects but I do make and design my own creations so every one is a one of creation

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They do as well!

Thanks for the info. I will cover all that in my next video of Whitby. And thanks for watching

There is no Dracula grave as he is a fictional character with only tentative link to Whitby.

@@4-video There is a grave at the top of the 199 steps marked "Dracula" so one can view it ! In the story Dracula kills the ship crew and the ship is wrecked in storm on Whitby bay , followed by Dracula leaving the ship form of a black dog:, how is that a tentative link ? it is pretty much part of the narrative to how he emerged in England. perhaps go to Whitby and find the grave and read the book.

@@christopherevans4743 I live there so know there is no grave of an imaginary 'person' without checking.

@@4-video Then you have lost your sense of story, playful imagination and are too literal ; stories brings tourists and they bring money and Whitby definitely needs the stories.