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Today Isaac discovers where Dr.Facilier's magical voodoo friends are really from.
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@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 6 лет назад
If you would like to see a theory more based around the idea of Voodoo and Loa then check out my theory on Dr. Facilier's Voodoo and "Royal Lineage" here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yAjxnlGA1aQ.html Thanks for watching!
@jamesraymer1662
@jamesraymer1662 6 лет назад
Wotso Videos what if vacilier becomes jack skellington after he dies
@Dino_297
@Dino_297 6 лет назад
Wotso Videos h
@ajmoise1364
@ajmoise1364 6 лет назад
Wotso Videos Y u makin this so complicated they obviously came from hell
@willowjohri7526
@willowjohri7526 6 лет назад
AJ CLUTCH HELL
@masterofinfinity479
@masterofinfinity479 6 лет назад
well, the "Jack" shadow doesn't look happy
@JanusHoW
@JanusHoW 7 лет назад
Fun fact: None of the "friends" are based on actual voodoo spirits from that practice. The people who did the necessary research made sure, juuuuust to be sure they wouldn't anger any actual spirits.
@razegaming1686
@razegaming1686 Год назад
Demons
@thomasmcintosh2977
@thomasmcintosh2977 Год назад
They are literally demons that dragged him to Hell at the end of the movie. Just like in real voodoo
@synppai4802
@synppai4802 Год назад
Citation needed
@pexavex7295
@pexavex7295 Год назад
@@thomasmcintosh2977 really? Could you tell me more?
@thomasmcintosh2977
@thomasmcintosh2977 Год назад
@@pexavex7295 voodoo, hoodoo, brujeria, santeria, wicca(witchcraft light and dark) nordic, greek deities, etc even ancestral african spirits are ALL demons masquerading as either our ancestors or angels of light/knowledge to trick people into Hell. In both real life and fiction(which is based on reality) and all who partake will be tortured unfathomably in Hell for centuries, suddenly yanked out to be judged by the true God YHWH of Israel and finally tossed into the lake of fire where the heat therein will make the sun seem like an ice cube due to it being fueled by God's wrath for eternity along with those demons and Satan himself who will also suffer from the lake of fire. So supernaturally hot it will even destroy Hell itself after the judgement. Follow Yahusha(who we call Jesus Christ) commands in the Bible, repent from sins and you will have no worries for eternity even though the world will hate you and probably kill you for doing so as the world gets more "progressive". Just gave you 100% absolute truth of life and the afterlife in a nutshell. :) do with it what you wish
@rndmpinkiepie64
@rndmpinkiepie64 7 лет назад
"who are his friends? They're from nightmare before Christmas!" aaaaand im done *walks off*
@theenderdestruction2362
@theenderdestruction2362 6 лет назад
Sunset Shimmer Gaming k bye
@kayleighbrown459
@kayleighbrown459 5 лет назад
Yeah. I was kinda hoping this was gonna be like an actual look into the history of voodoo and the lore behind the film.
@NorokVokun
@NorokVokun 5 лет назад
@@kayleighbrown459 yeah... honestly most if not all of these "clues" are just coincidences... liek that shadow... i do not see Jack skellington in that... and just because the music is both jazzy it is the same? nah
@mvk9418
@mvk9418 5 лет назад
I was expecting a historical backround
@joeanimates7853
@joeanimates7853 5 лет назад
@@mvk9418 exactly. Left after he started switching movies
@davidcarter1965
@davidcarter1965 7 лет назад
They're Loa spirits but it's a fun theory regardless
@singalingalongaling
@singalingalongaling 6 лет назад
David Carter Maybe some Loa lived in Jack Skellongton’s town and we just did not see them.
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim
@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim 5 лет назад
@@singalingalongaling Or maybe this is a bullshit hypothesis that someone made because they wanted to link two unrelated movies?
@singalingalongaling
@singalingalongaling 5 лет назад
Velociraptors of Skyrim Hush!
@Dr.Knotter
@Dr.Knotter 5 лет назад
Super unfounded theory makes me kinda not like this Chanel Because of the pure lack of research involved in these theories. There Haitian voodoo, or Louisiana voodoo, Loa Spirits. Otherwise know as the Ghede, and there is 100 % no mention or, reference to them at all whatsoever in the Nightmare Before Christmas. It's not even coincidental, it's just a horribly lazy Theory.
@Dr.Knotter
@Dr.Knotter 5 лет назад
singalingalongaling 😂 hahaha no!
@AdamMichalMarkowski
@AdamMichalMarkowski 7 лет назад
The hell? Those are Loa's.
@thelairofblair
@thelairofblair 7 лет назад
I was hoping thats what this video was about. Man was I wrong...
@kenzieuchiha1191
@kenzieuchiha1191 7 лет назад
Adam Markowski It even says in the wiki for the film that the Doc was based on Baron Samedi who is literally the leader of the loa of death.
@princessnikoblackwood4041
@princessnikoblackwood4041 7 лет назад
The Ghede are not evil, though. In fact, they have more in common with the dead folks in The Corpse Bride.
@Ngelic
@Ngelic 4 года назад
He's just trying to tie the movies together which in regards to the actual religion it doesn't make sense
@ghostfresh22
@ghostfresh22 4 года назад
@@kenzieuchiha1191 technically he is based on Baron kriminal the loa that bridges the gap between Ghede and Petro loa. Baron kriminal has a interest in human souls much like Met kalfou the dark side of the crossroads and the little brother to Papa legba. Disney doesn't go that far to explain it but when you know ..you just know lol
@sdm47
@sdm47 3 года назад
R.I.P. Rest In Peace Dr Anton Facilier 1893 - 1926 He wasn’t ready
@cuegert9895
@cuegert9895 2 года назад
XD, It was all to much excitement for his frail body
@244balls
@244balls Год назад
he wasn't 𝘙 𝘌 𝘈 𝘋 𝘠
@kommiekoathanger1418
@kommiekoathanger1418 Год назад
I absolutely will always say that dr facilier is my favourite villain in Disney, just everything about him is so well done, the way he speaks, the way he’s dressed and especially how he moves. I especially love how dr facilier moves almost like a puppet in some scenes particularly in ‘friends on the other side’ when he dances, and it’s also one of the best parts of 2d animation, you can achieve interesting movement like dr faciliers
@kirugio4586
@kirugio4586 5 лет назад
"Who are Faciliers friends?" *Points at hell* *Points at Demons* *Points at Poltiguites* *Points at spirits* *Points at Satan* *Points at Shadowmen* *Points at Ghosts* *_"T H E M!"_*
@DriedJizzSock
@DriedJizzSock 4 года назад
Whats a Poltiguite?
@parrascarlet
@parrascarlet 3 года назад
A ghost
@AfroHayot
@AfroHayot 3 года назад
I think the word is poltergeist or is there actually something called poltiguite
@Manoatevarua
@Manoatevarua 3 года назад
You’re wrong, they are Loas
@Hydra2054
@Hydra2054 3 года назад
did i really just read "points at satan" the moment the guy shows the small clip of "are the ready?"
@knightlessmoon
@knightlessmoon 7 лет назад
I miss 2d animated films and this film, The Princess and the Frog, proves how gorgeous it can be. Heck even the start of Enchanted had breathtaking animation too. I sincerely hope Disney makes another 2d film one day. Still hoping for a better Swan Lake based film aside from The Swan Princess which is not a Disney film. Because even though I loved the animation in that movie too the story had a lot of inconsistencies unfortunately. Anyway, great video and can't wait for the next theory!
@casuallove3189
@casuallove3189 7 лет назад
Same here. I don't think they're gonna make a "Swan Lake" movie 'cause people are going to say tha they stole the idea.
@Ro994
@Ro994 7 лет назад
I really hope 2D comes back someday too!
@abigailjudith5916
@abigailjudith5916 7 лет назад
knightlessmoon well it probably won't but in Moana there is handdraw animation when his tattoos are moving
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I agree with you! I'm glad you enjoyed the video :D Thanks for watching!
@knightlessmoon
@knightlessmoon 7 лет назад
True CasualLove, and that's a shame because I still feel Disney could have done it better. Especially with the animation tech they have now.
@soulshard4713
@soulshard4713 7 лет назад
There are a few flaws with this theory. Just because a character is in cameo of a movie or show does NOT mean anything more than similar creators. Disney did both movies and were bound to reuse some designs. Cameos of Jack were also on James and the Gaint Peach, and the Disney T.V show Phineas and Ferb. This doesn't give much to hold the theory on. However, Disney's The Princess and the Frog was based in the one American city known for dabbling in the old HooDoo and VooDoo rituals brought over by slaves! The entire movie leans heavily on these old world magicks and bringing out some of the history of 1920's New Orleans.
@WTKB82
@WTKB82 7 лет назад
Have you seen other videos on this channel? Its about creating theories based on what we know. None of it is actually meant to be taken as canon.
@morgenvade4768
@morgenvade4768 7 лет назад
I think his friends are just demons and that is why at the end they drag him to Hell
@WTKB82
@WTKB82 7 лет назад
Morgen Vade He practices voodoo, there are no demons in voodoo. His friends are the loa, which are voodoo spirits. And his friends in particular are evil. Stop trying to apply Christianity to this, guys.
@sashashadowhive6128
@sashashadowhive6128 7 лет назад
+Bla Blah I don't know much about voodoo, but I believe you are right about Loa, but the term "Demon" is not by definition christian I believe.
@WTKB82
@WTKB82 7 лет назад
Rosa Hijne look at his profile. hes a christian. hes subscribed to jesus daily
@phlyphenix1601
@phlyphenix1601 7 лет назад
He's probably my favorite movie villain ever!
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I really like all of his songs. Thanks for watching!
@bridgetsylvesterprice7379
@bridgetsylvesterprice7379 5 лет назад
He’s my favorite movie villain also
@edmardisla8492
@edmardisla8492 4 года назад
boom
@ANonMoose_
@ANonMoose_ 3 года назад
@@IsaacCarlson 😐
@angemala
@angemala 3 года назад
the animation is awesome
@aaron8204
@aaron8204 7 лет назад
I always thought that Facilier's friends were from the Underworld. Coming to the land of the living would mean the lost souls could take a mortals place if they were to eat a human soul. But I do really like this theory!
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I'm happy you enjoy it! But I do think it's possible they are in the Underworld. Hadn't considered that idea. Thanks for watching!
@MetalRuless
@MetalRuless 5 лет назад
“Who are his friends?” Debt soul collectors
@ariadnefrolich7243
@ariadnefrolich7243 3 года назад
Lol.
@hobomike6935
@hobomike6935 Год назад
“Who are his friends?” _The IRS_ *”ARE YOU REEEEAAADYYY?”* *[sounds of paycheck deductions]*
@FVCK-TH1S
@FVCK-TH1S Год назад
@@hobomike6935 terrifying
@10Cheshirecat
@10Cheshirecat 7 лет назад
The head he held up was his mother. She was a Voodoo queen, which is why he says he's a royal from his mother's side
@fangirlfrustrations8309
@fangirlfrustrations8309 7 лет назад
Are you ready?🎼🎶🎵
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
Aye aye captain. Thanks for watching!
@lilbunny9833
@lilbunny9833 7 лет назад
Love N' Hope bum bump bum bum
@sarahsea1
@sarahsea1 5 лет назад
No! i'm not ready at all! in fact, i got lots more plans!
@tis4tru504
@tis4tru504 5 лет назад
Seatontube 2000 are you ready?
@sarahsea1
@sarahsea1 5 лет назад
@@tis4tru504 This is just a minor setback of the main job or anything.
@nucleargamer0989
@nucleargamer0989 6 лет назад
I love Dr. Facilier! One of my top 10 favorite kids movie villains!
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 6 лет назад
I really like him as well! Thanks for watching!
@alistairthegoodwitch9496
@alistairthegoodwitch9496 7 лет назад
good one dude, mind if I add to it? Dr. faciller IS Oggy boge.ok you pointed stuff out that would lead to this. princess takes place first. back then Halloween town was different, jack did his own thing, he made the deal with Dr faciller to help get himself into the world. a deal that he saw fail. his punishment for failure was to be turned in to the boggie man with little power and sent to the out skirts to live with other taken soul that failed Jack. I.e. the kids. he's more powerful then them like in his life in the real world and persuasive, he took them in to be his minions. jack being tired of failure convinced the town to try something new. Halloween. till he got bored and moved on to Xmas. so yeah, there you go. jack is actually a manipulative villain who runs the town through a puppet mayor so if things go bad, they blame him and oggie is the Dr. turned into that after failing jack. look at the personalities of boggie and the doctor and they parallel. they both had a shadow that they control, both love jazz. etc. anyway, that's my theory thanks to you. maybe you could use it, have a nice day
@ad240p
@ad240p 7 лет назад
Sandy Flinch Nah, Facilier isn't Oogie Boogie. I'm sure the Ghede Loa wouldn't let him out of the Spirit World.
@siddharthmehrotra4424
@siddharthmehrotra4424 7 лет назад
Probably not; indeed, Oogie does not appear among the Loa; but this is no serious objection to Isaac's hypothesis.
@thebiolibrary5572
@thebiolibrary5572 7 лет назад
Sandy Flinch actually, Oogie was the king of Bug Day before Halloween was a thing. Does Facilier have anything to do with bugs?
@shadowpines5600
@shadowpines5600 7 лет назад
Great theory Sandy flinch but what if they came from the shadow realm! lol nah
@catkeena
@catkeena 7 лет назад
Ninja Metall In a way yes. He is responsible for the death of Ray the firefly.
@cancel2394
@cancel2394 7 лет назад
If Jack really changes the town from murderers and soul suckers to pranksters, could Jack's change of heart and doubt in The Nightmare Before Christmas be about wanting to hunt the living again, but finds love instead? I'd also love to hear how you think The Trick or Treaters, or Boogies Boys, play into this theory.
@emiliog01
@emiliog01 7 лет назад
definitely prefer hand drawn over 3d
@rebeccan6811
@rebeccan6811 7 лет назад
I actually like both Hand drawn and 3D animation
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I think they both have their place. Like if their was a Super Mario movie I think it would be better in 3D, but other stories like Beauty and the Beast work really well in classic animation. Thanks for watching!
@thealicemonster9217
@thealicemonster9217 7 лет назад
There is a Super Mario movie but it's live action... ;)
@Noir262
@Noir262 7 лет назад
I like 3D
@kristianawilliams6036
@kristianawilliams6036 7 лет назад
demons case closed
@madnessincarnate8131
@madnessincarnate8131 7 лет назад
Demons? Hardly. I would suggest researching Vodou before making rash statements. Loa are more akin to angels than demons, though really that's still not correct. Loa, unlike demons or angels, have very human personalities and can only very rarely be pinned as either 'good' or 'evil'. They are very neutral and interested in their goals.
@kristianawilliams6036
@kristianawilliams6036 7 лет назад
Madness Incarnate then the portal he was dragged into was
@madnessincarnate8131
@madnessincarnate8131 7 лет назад
Rene Williams Was the gate to the realm of the dead most likely, a once again neutral realm where all deceased go in the Vodou belief..
@kristianawilliams6036
@kristianawilliams6036 7 лет назад
Madness Incarnate I was a little suspicious as to why those "demons" looked like dolls and were purple with green eyes instead of red and black
@shantellvialva1972
@shantellvialva1972 5 лет назад
IM FROM THE CARIBBEAN WHERE IVE SEEN FIRST HAND PEOPLE WHO DEAL WITH SPIRITS JUST LIKE THE ONES IN THIS SHOW IT IS VERY COMMON MORE THAN YOU KNOW.... MY COUSIN IS DEALING WITH ALOT OF SPIRITUAL ATTACKS FROM DEMONS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE HER OWN SISTER IS ENVIOUS OF HER, SHE WENT TO A WITCH DOCTOR AND SENT AN EVIL SPIRIT THAT IS REAKING HAVOK ON HER HOME,, I OFTEN PRAY FOR HER, BUT EVERYTIME I DO WE GET SOME SORT OF BACK LASH IN OUR LIVES, LIKE ONE NIGHT WE CAME HOME AND FOUND THE FLOOR COVERED IN WORMS, THERE WAS NO LOGICAL REASON FOR THAT, I HAVE SO MUCH TO SAY ON THIS MATTER AND EXPERIENCE ON IT, I COULD GO ON FOR MONTHS, WITHCHCRAFT IS REAL, DEMONS ARE REAL AND THIS MOVIE IS BASICALLY THE TRUTH HIDDING IN PLAIN SIGHT, ONLY THOSE WHO HAVE EYES TO SEE WILL SEE. THOSE WHO JUST HAVE COLLEGE EDUCATION OR WORLDLY SCIENTIFIC LOGIC WILL NOT SEE OR BELIEVE EVEN IF THEY WERE TO BEHOLD IT BEFORE THEIR EYES AS A REALITY. I DO NOT JOKE ABOUT THIS.
@dracofay552
@dracofay552 7 лет назад
Hate to burst your bubble, but there is a game called "The Nightmare Before Christmas: The Pumpkin King" that explains how Jack got his title. It doesn't disprove your theory but does make it less likely.
@WTKB82
@WTKB82 7 лет назад
Not really. Video games are not canon to the films. Its like saying that Sora, Donald Duck, and Goofy all know Jack Skellington because they met him in Kingdom Hearts. In terms of the established Disney canon, that is untrue.
@hsmgeek4ever
@hsmgeek4ever 7 лет назад
I like hand drawn more. I used to hate the 3D animation when I was a kid, but as it got more into popularity, I got more used to it. I'd say, I don't hate the 3D now, but I would love to see some 2D animation every now and then, only because I do favor the aesthetics more and I find the worlds to look more appealing.
@theenderdestruction2362
@theenderdestruction2362 6 лет назад
Souls Are For Squares nightmare befoure Christmas was a stop motion thing :/
@Cuban20
@Cuban20 7 лет назад
That is actually possible. Disney secretly links movies. Like Peter Pan and Pirates of the Carribean. Its the same Universe. There is even a POTC story where a pirate relates how he saw Captain Hook and that he literally has not aged even after the years have passed and that he was afraid of a Cabin boy serving him food. Meaning Hook now has a pathological fear of children due to his injury. So both those worlds are linked. They also linked Aladdin and Hercules together as we can see where Hercules meets Aladdin after he married Jasmin because Hades resurrected Jafar in order to defeat Hercules and Aladdin.
@gingerlemon865
@gingerlemon865 7 лет назад
Are you sure the telephone wasn't already invented and used throughout the 20s? I read The Great Gatsby and that took place in the 20s and phone's were present.
@hannahskeldon7944
@hannahskeldon7944 7 лет назад
Not the phones that they showed in the Nightmare Before Christmas.
@CuriousUserX90
@CuriousUserX90 6 лет назад
ღRiceBunnyAriღ Think the telephone was invented sometime in the 19th Century: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_telephone
@sandrarincon3098
@sandrarincon3098 6 лет назад
0:52 Answer:MONSTER HIGH 🤣🤣🤣
@selly8959
@selly8959 7 лет назад
Could you talk more on the Princess and the Frog. It's my favorite of the disney films. I wish they'd do more 2d types a little more often.
@MsDisneylandlover
@MsDisneylandlover 7 лет назад
Selah Giovanni i love tiana n i wish they do more with her. i wish they do a live action movie with her. i am praying on it.
@selly8959
@selly8959 7 лет назад
Marshan Thomas I'd settle for another animated movie where they aren't frogs for most of the movie. But I understand what you mean. I just prefer animation over live action x.x
@MsDisneylandlover
@MsDisneylandlover 7 лет назад
Yes ture n u right as well. Disney need to support her more.
@selly8959
@selly8959 7 лет назад
I'm so happy we're getting more Disney Princesses of color. I hope this pattern continues, what with Moana and what not.
@MsDisneylandlover
@MsDisneylandlover 7 лет назад
Yes i hope for another black one. But yeah right lol. Smh.
@joshuadelaney4284
@joshuadelaney4284 7 лет назад
then that could explain why jack has a vicious nature toward enemies and why hes so feared by Boogeyman. he probably had to defeat the ones that refused to cooperate
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
Even if you don't accept this theory, I think Jack probably helped with banishing Oogie Boogie. Thanks for watching!
@joshuadelaney4284
@joshuadelaney4284 7 лет назад
Wotso Videos you misunderstand. I am accepting it but when I watch nightmare before Christmas hes always had a very menacing undertone when fighting Boogie almost like he's deliberately holding back.
@kannosam
@kannosam 7 лет назад
oh hell yea most def if anything it makes this theory more plausible.
@SevenTailedWolf72
@SevenTailedWolf72 7 лет назад
This crap is SCARY! And apparently there is two Halloween Towns....the one where Jack Skellington lives and the Cromwell witches live 😅
@PallidTrash
@PallidTrash 7 лет назад
He reminds me of Papa Legba. He even does dirty deals like *Disney made him out to be-evil). There is many similarities between both. Perhaps he is a mortal version of him...?
@TheGeckoNinja
@TheGeckoNinja 7 лет назад
you think after the spirits took him he became Papa Legba?
@timo72455
@timo72455 7 лет назад
I mean it is voodoo, I think the spirits could be those similar to Papa Legba. Just saying, those spirits dragged him to Hell for his misdeeds.
@rorydeboer9832
@rorydeboer9832 6 лет назад
I really like the format of these videos; right to the point, all the necessary evidence, and nothing extra. A lot more efficient than some of the other theory channels out there.
@jaysonthetrainmasterprofil221
@jaysonthetrainmasterprofil221 Месяц назад
You shouldn't mess with actual spirits it's like.drop it and leave it alone things
@rileydeleon6589
@rileydeleon6589 5 лет назад
really good theory even when he mentions that there was a jack skellington silhouette the figure even looked like he didn't want to do the task falcier asked them 3:43
@4dultw1thj0b
@4dultw1thj0b 7 лет назад
That actually makes a lot of sense! And good call noticing the similarities in the music styles!
@crazemate
@crazemate 4 года назад
Sorry for the response but no
@giorgoszar4733
@giorgoszar4733 Год назад
@@crazemate explain why
@GaomonXX
@GaomonXX 7 лет назад
Interesting theory But one thing is off: We don't see any sort of special amulet in The Nightmare before Christmas I doubt that magical amulet Facilier used could be from Halloween Town
@WilliamJATK
@WilliamJATK 7 лет назад
Oliver Cheong There was no trace of the amulet due to it being smashed which is what caused any such objects to be hidden in order to avoid such a thing happening again
@Carlos-ne3zf
@Carlos-ne3zf 7 лет назад
Oliver Cheong thats because Halloween town is based on The Grimm and american tradition and all Facillier powers are based on Voodoo an African tradition with no conection at all
@siddharthmehrotra4424
@siddharthmehrotra4424 7 лет назад
As well: the amulet was for human use, and the monsters would not need it.
@e-mananimates2274
@e-mananimates2274 7 лет назад
You talk about how Halloween Town is a magical world when Tim Burton stated that there's no magic in Halloween Town (with some possible exceptions).
@dandelion2942
@dandelion2942 7 лет назад
I love Dr. Faciliar. He's my favourite character.
@rebeccaliebregts
@rebeccaliebregts 7 лет назад
Excuse me while I knock myself out from 'over-facepalming'.
@Tombola1993
@Tombola1993 5 лет назад
I wonder what Dr. Facilier’s friends from the other side did to him after he was sucked in, aside from being transformed into a tombstone? Could he have been tortured beyond mercilessly beyond belief, or does his tombstone answer my question?
@joinmarch76
@joinmarch76 7 лет назад
Well, to be fair, the undead and New Orleans go together like a whale and its barnacles, so it's no surprise Facilier would find some malevolent spirits willing to help the charismatic voodoo doctor's dirty deeds come true. That said, this is a rather interesting theory and certainly paints Oogie in a new light.
@saphirabanes6995
@saphirabanes6995 7 лет назад
hm...well 3D animation is better because it shows the individual lines in their hair and fabric yet 2D animation just brings back a sense of nostlagia for me.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I agree with you. Thanks for watching!
@saphirabanes6995
@saphirabanes6995 7 лет назад
Wotso Videos thanks for responding. Hardly any RU-vidr has ever responded to me. And thanks for the video. Keep up the good work. 😊
@Hannah-xj5gs
@Hannah-xj5gs 7 лет назад
Wow this video has made me so inspired and made me want to re-watch The Princess And The Frog I have on disc. Thank you so much WotsoVideos for doing my favourite too (The Nightmare Before Christmas)! You've actually done an awesome and unique theory I been having questions about and answered them in such a clear way. So is that why Oogie was banished from Halloween Town, because he wanted to torcher innocent souls like Dr Facilia (don't think that's how you spell it, Oops). This theory mostly makes sense now. Please do more amazing content just like this! Maybe with some my Nightmare Before Christmas too 🎃🎄
@stainlesssteelfox1
@stainlesssteelfox1 7 лет назад
If this is the level of explanation you give, this is the only video of yours I'm watching. I expected an actual discussion of where voodoo magic came from, not some made up nonsense theory.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I'm sorry you feel that way, but the purpose of my channel is to discuss the franchises I enjoy; I commonly discuss the links and theories I see in Disney films. You are not the only person who was disappointed by the content of my video, so I am actually considering making another video about Voodoo. This was just a theory and I apologize if you felt mislead. Thanks for watching.
@cindywest318
@cindywest318 7 лет назад
stainlesssteelfox1 its a theory about DISNEY think about it
@stainlesssteelfox1
@stainlesssteelfox1 7 лет назад
Thank you for understanding. If you did make a video about the actual culture behind Dr Facilier's 'Friends', I would definitely watch it. I think part of it is that you chose 'Nightmare Before Christmas'. This is not the sort of thing they'd do, (excepting Oogie Boogie). It's pretty clearly laid out in the opening song, that the purpose of Haloweentown is basically benevolent. 'Tender lovelings everywhere Life's no fun without a good scare That's our job, but we're not mean In our town of Halloween' Trading magic power for souls just doesn't fit that pattern.
@thomaslane6847
@thomaslane6847 6 лет назад
U can also see the two headed shadow that is also in the Halloween town
@mayuzumiis
@mayuzumiis 7 лет назад
This is a really interesting theory. I haven't ever heard of it before! I've actually never seen either film talked about in this video, but I do like the theory.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I'm happy you at least enjoy the ideas! I would definitely recommend both of the movies too. Thanks for watching!
@underfirebutok
@underfirebutok 7 лет назад
I think both styles of animation can be used in epic ways, and I honestly can't choose one. Keep up the great content! :D
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
Will do! Thanks for watching!
@antitheist3206
@antitheist3206 7 лет назад
Wow. I never noticed the shadow of Jack in PatF. Opens a whole new level of Disney cameos.
@Thoralmir
@Thoralmir 7 лет назад
It also reflects how Halloween became more family-friendly after the 1920's.
@maliboo4901
@maliboo4901 7 лет назад
dude you are blowing my mind with this
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I'm glad I was able to blow your mind! Thanks for watching!
@CJ17Mag
@CJ17Mag 7 лет назад
i just had a thought if your theory is correct maybe it explains who the big Tiki mask is...Oogie Boogie, which would also explain the jazz playing around him
@ramentengoku931
@ramentengoku931 7 лет назад
FUN FACT: The Nightmare Before Christmas Was Going to be part of the official Walt Disney Animated Classics Line But, They Decided To instead Move It To Touchstone Pictures (A Disney Subsidiary That Releases Films that are geared more Toward Adults) Because They Feared That Film would too Scary For Kids. So Yeah This Theory Makes Sense. I Buy it. Great Theory) (BTW I PREFER 3D)
@1145223bena
@1145223bena 5 лет назад
Personally, for me I Pull on the facts on voodoo as them being loa
@JaganshiHiei15
@JaganshiHiei15 7 лет назад
You didn't even mention that Oogie looks like a voodoo doll!
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
That's another great piece of evidence. Smart idea! Thanks for watching!
@shadenarour4518
@shadenarour4518 7 лет назад
So that technically twists the idea a bit.
@LadyCoyKoi
@LadyCoyKoi 5 лет назад
I love your idea. Never thought of the spirits being from Halloween Town. I always thought that Disney took the existing myths and legends from New Orleans and other places. Taking myths such as Owl man, mothman, Slenderman, Rake, Shadow people, actual demons, etc and combine them to make Dr Faciliers' friends.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 5 лет назад
Oh that's a super cool idea! I kind of think that's where they actually from. Thanks for watching!
@MrBenMcLean
@MrBenMcLean 7 лет назад
LOL. This is a fun idea. Seriously though, Dr. Facilier illustrates a philosophical principle discussed by C. S. Lewis in his 1943 book, "The Abolition of Man". He writes, "It is the magician's bargain: give up our soul, get power in return. But once our souls, that is, ourselves, have been given up, the power thus conferred will not belong to us. We shall in fact be the slaves and puppets of that to which we have given our souls."
@jacintaparanihi8402
@jacintaparanihi8402 6 лет назад
When you said "where are these 'friends' really from" at the starting of the vid and i said "from hell" and almost closed the video and rememberd i wanted to watch this lol
@timkarlsson2921
@timkarlsson2921 7 лет назад
That song Ogeboogeman sings is more of blues then jazz
@TheGoodMan211
@TheGoodMan211 7 лет назад
this dude is ignorant about black culture
@timkarlsson2921
@timkarlsson2921 7 лет назад
The diddler both jazz and blues is from black culture, and the reason that i think that oogiebogie sings blues and not jazz is because it has a sad tone to it. while the witchdoctor sings jazz, jazz is almost always happy while blues almost always have a sad tone to it. blues was created before jazz.
@nword1380
@nword1380 3 года назад
@@timkarlsson2921 well said
@jadepeppermint2734
@jadepeppermint2734 7 лет назад
I think it's true that he had help from Halloweentown and believe had help at one time from Jack and I'm into hand-drawn and 3D animation
@katamekothriis1613
@katamekothriis1613 5 лет назад
I think the primary Loá that Dr Facilier worships (The long horned mask that gave him the amulet) is Baron Samedi. Baron Samedi is VERY closely related to death, evil, and mischief.
@fatterhorner
@fatterhorner 7 лет назад
I thought it was just a saying, like having "friends in high places"
@thearabianwerewolf3392
@thearabianwerewolf3392 7 лет назад
Hand drawn
@avajoiner4037
@avajoiner4037 6 лет назад
When the video first started I couldn't believe the idea of the friends being from Halloween Town, but it was such a well thought out and awesome theory that I'm pretty convinced! These videos are so great! Fully obsessed!
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 6 лет назад
I'm happy you enjoyed the video and you are enjoying the ideas! Thanks for watching!
@christopherrios5567
@christopherrios5567 7 лет назад
this is something you missed but the skeleton shadow also looked sad for doing this kind dealing and not really menacingly looking.
@christopherrios5567
@christopherrios5567 7 лет назад
+wotso video
@Mortablunt
@Mortablunt 7 лет назад
His "friends" aren't nice, but they are fair. They made a deal, he fucked up, they gave him a second chance, he fucked up again, so they came to collect on the debt he had agreed to assume with the promised collateral in case he failed to pay.
@DizExplorer03
@DizExplorer03 7 лет назад
That was a really interesting theory. Very well done! I could definitely find that theory to be believable. Thanks for making a video about The Princess and the Frog and The Nightmare Before Christmas. They are are two of my favorite Disney films of all time! To answer your question, I prefer hand drawn animation over computer animation hands down. I grew up with it as a child and has more of that special craftsmanship and quality that CGI can never accomplish. From the tip of their pencils, traditional animators bring timeless characters to life. With computer animators, all they do are rig the characters and move them like puppets, kinda similar to how stop motion animation works. Keep up the great work!
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I definitely will keep up the work! I'm glad you enjoyed the video and my thoughts. Thanks for watching!
@DizExplorer03
@DizExplorer03 7 лет назад
Wotso Videos Anytime! Looking forward to your next videos! You got yourself a new subscriber!
@capnbootz
@capnbootz 7 лет назад
This was an epic theory! Also I prefer hand drawn animation, but it does depend on the tone of the feature. I think hand drawn just has its own charm. Like I can't see Aristocats and The Sword In The Stone in 3d.
@alphanight-fang6423
@alphanight-fang6423 6 лет назад
When I went to Disney he tried to trade for one of friends bracelets good for her there she responded "I'll never make deals with you,and try someone else other then your 'friend's'" he was so shocked I also decided to put my zero stuffie in his face and yell boo! He was surprised to that as well and ponited at zero and went "that a ghost dog?" Oh my the fun!
@johnballard3403
@johnballard3403 7 лет назад
The hand drawn animation looks better to me. At least most of the time. Both seem to have their shinning moments. One thing I noticed would be that Halloween Town shouldn't be the only world from which such spirits could have been drawn. The holiday is actually fairly new, where holidays are concerned. While I don't know exactly when Halloween started, it is my understanding that a world called Halloween Town could only be connected to a world after they aquire the idea of Halloween. Without that core concept, it would be next to impossible to build a bridge between the two worlds. It definitely wouldn't be as easy as it seemed in the Princess and the Frog movie. And if it wasn't, that is one powerful and furious being on the other side.
@jinnahrie7641
@jinnahrie7641 6 лет назад
0:16 he be high tho' Snortin some souls is damn good... mmmm... HE HIGH AF
@POTATO-hg5bw
@POTATO-hg5bw 4 года назад
XDDD
@DivineSpider3
@DivineSpider3 Год назад
My theory is that the friends on the other side are fallen angels aka: demons
@sideshow_celia
@sideshow_celia 7 лет назад
I like both hand drawn, and 3D.
@lierrepomero9224
@lierrepomero9224 7 лет назад
i think stop motion animation is my favorite! its takes so long but is so beautiful. it took the cast of the nightmare before christmas so much time and effort but i am so glad they never quit. its amazing and i love this theory
@leonardo899
@leonardo899 7 лет назад
This analysis is so dumb. I taught I was going to get informed about voodoo practices when I clicked on the video.
@abigailjudith5916
@abigailjudith5916 7 лет назад
leonardo899 well that's not exactly how this guy works..
@thelairofblair
@thelairofblair 7 лет назад
Same but instead we get a really shitty theory video.
@kamronspencer4910
@kamronspencer4910 7 лет назад
Dylan Klebold except he literally uses dark voodoo magic and it even says on the wiki that facile ( I can't spell his name) was based on a figure from voodoo legend
@silviawolfblood4883
@silviawolfblood4883 7 лет назад
I thought the same thing
@lordkosta926
@lordkosta926 7 лет назад
same tbh.
@lindsaylove7234
@lindsaylove7234 7 лет назад
Question but might Peter pan also have friends on the other Side? I mean his shadow moves in the same way, no?
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
You're not the first person to ask this. I'm kind of wondering that myself. I don't have an answer for you right now. I'll have to think on it. Thanks for watching!
@PinkamenaPolska
@PinkamenaPolska 6 лет назад
his "friends" are probably loa spirits. There's three kinds of them but I'm going to focus on only two kinds: Rada and Pero. Rada are the "good guys". They often help people and are associated with positive emotions when Pero are like oposite of them. Most of loa spirits help people but only if they pay (nothing for free). Big request, big price. It's a part of a voodoo culture and loa can also possess people if they want. I think Facilier gave too big promise to a wrong kind of spirits. (sorry for my eng)
@ayja2362
@ayja2362 7 лет назад
Hands down : MOST UNDERRATED DISNEY ANIMATED MOVIE
@darkprince5684
@darkprince5684 7 лет назад
love the hand-drawn animation i want disney to go back to the hand drawn animation
@cre8tvtpuddle243
@cre8tvtpuddle243 7 лет назад
Favorite villain ever
@bridgetsylvesterprice7379
@bridgetsylvesterprice7379 5 лет назад
Cre8tvt Puddle me too
@KitzelTheMuse
@KitzelTheMuse 7 лет назад
It's a pretty sound theory.. except, telephones were around from as early as the 18 hundreds. In the 1920's it was in the shape of the Standing stick, or Candle stick telephone. In the 20's the phones started shifting more to the large base, and cradled ear / mouth pieces as seen in "A nightmare before Christmas." Though the Candle stick was still more widely used because the "Handset" or the French design was still somewhat expensive. Also Radio. was also used in the 1920's as well, in fact there was a huge craze for it. Also, were it not for Radio, I'm sure a LOT of propaganda wouldn't have been used as widely or as much in the first World War, or even for the broadcasts used that led up to the Second World War in the 40's. if they didn't exist. I hate poking holes into theories, but I've been researching the era of the 20's since 2012, for a novel I'm working on, so I thought I should correct you. ^^; links for your persual: xroads.virginia.edu/~UG00/3on1/radioshow/1920radio.htm www.techwalla.com/articles/telephones-in-the-1920s
@gigissketches2603
@gigissketches2603 6 лет назад
Hand-drawn animation is my favorite. 3D is cool, but 2D leaves more room for artistic expression in film-making.
@maGiCpinkBear
@maGiCpinkBear 7 лет назад
I was like.... I dont want to believe it but it makes so much sences. I will never seen this movie the same way again.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I'm glad I was able to change your perception of the movies! Thanks for watching!
@breannabasler2131
@breannabasler2131 6 лет назад
I prefer hand drawn animation.
@Funstuff13613
@Funstuff13613 7 лет назад
When you first mentioned where the friends were from I thought it was ridiculous, mind you as the video went on and the more parallels you drew the more it makes sense. Great video.
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching!
@JohnNy13375
@JohnNy13375 6 лет назад
My god this is genius and drawn animations
@rikoiscool_5438
@rikoiscool_5438 2 года назад
They are demons dude
@jessicathomas9699
@jessicathomas9699 7 лет назад
mind. blown
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I'm happy I could do that! Thanks for watching!
@jessicathomas9699
@jessicathomas9699 7 лет назад
Wotso Videos omg thanks for responding!!!!!
@BBHTR5RT5RT4
@BBHTR5RT5RT4 7 лет назад
Jessica Thomas M IS FOR MIND BLOWN(PIDGEON TOADY ABC REFERENCE).
@thetruebloodchannel6194
@thetruebloodchannel6194 7 лет назад
+Wotso Videos do *I'm sorry I know his name I just can't spell it*the giant crab's back story from mouana
@jessicathomas9699
@jessicathomas9699 7 лет назад
Lanora Mann​ it's spelled tamatoa. And you spelt moana wrong too.
@GrtSage
@GrtSage 3 года назад
In a sense I believe The Shadow Man took out a sort of Cupbead Style debt with the Devil. He got his powers but in return New Orleans’ Souls have to be sacrificed. Which is why when he fails the Devil reclaims his debt by taking him.
@EllenMF12
@EllenMF12 7 лет назад
Funny enough is that the skeleton-like shadow was the only one not grinning.
@gayspacemagic2306
@gayspacemagic2306 7 лет назад
This is why I love your vids cos I would never have noticed half of these
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
I'm glad you can enjoy them and it's my pleasure to analysis and connect ideas for you. Thanks for watching!
@WyGuy
@WyGuy 7 лет назад
I think the theory is interesting, but I know that it is just a theory. OR IS IT?
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
Yeah it is just a theory. Just something I noticed! Thanks for watching!
@jilliandiienno5184
@jilliandiienno5184 7 лет назад
Wotso Videos or is it
@KestralKuthule
@KestralKuthule 7 лет назад
it explains why 'Jacks' shadow looks so sad
@madisonxyz9887
@madisonxyz9887 7 лет назад
Jack's shadow even looked sad. This was probably the push he needed to change things so drastically.
@justsomeguywatchingyoutube8104
@justsomeguywatchingyoutube8104 4 года назад
they could be from hell
@DarthVader-ib7tl
@DarthVader-ib7tl 7 лет назад
hand drawn all the way!
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
Understood Lord Vader. Thanks for watching!
@ouroborosproductions
@ouroborosproductions 5 лет назад
I always thought he was talking about the evil side of the afterlife
@alexisannaaguirre5364
@alexisannaaguirre5364 6 лет назад
I must agree that i miss 2D animation - when we 90's kids remember our childhood, 2D animation played a huge part in it. But when you see disney movies like Moana, its amazing to see how far animators have come along and you know the next generation are going to cherish these films. In regards to your theory DEEPLY CREATIVE in regards to the disney universe theories and it just might be true! But basically I just believe Dr.Faliciers "friends" are indeed demons from Hell. The animators made them "shadows" to not frighten children too much. He made a deal with the devil and when he failed, only his soul would serve as payment. Sincerely love the halloween town theory though!
@jaydennez5182
@jaydennez5182 7 лет назад
Um that is amazing
@IsaacCarlson
@IsaacCarlson 7 лет назад
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed the theory! Thanks for watching!
@REgamesplayer
@REgamesplayer 7 лет назад
It is a waste of time. With this logic, any conspiracy theory is right too.
@katrielhamilton
@katrielhamilton 4 года назад
me: **reads title** me: loas. they're called loas. this video: nIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS-
@ianpezzotti9127
@ianpezzotti9127 6 лет назад
Dr. Facilier's Shadow Demons-The Shadows in the Graves Dr. Facilier's Voodoo Dolls-Jack's Possed Toys Shrunken Head-Shrunken Head Dr. Facilier's Head Masks-Halloween Town's Residents
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