Who are the Lamenters, and what did they do to deserve this? | Warhammer 40K Lore 

"It gets worse," That's just the Lamenters history in general.

They inherited Sanguinious’s compassion... along with his ruptured arteries and terrible luck

The Lamenters: "Why do you give us your toughest battles?" The Emperor: "Because you're my strongest soldiers"

The thing that makes the Lamenters so noteworthy isn't how bad their luck it. The cursed founding is full of bad luck chapters. It's that, no matter how bad their losses, how ruinous their penance, how often they are kicked and abused by fate..... They remain completely devoted to the cause. They don't forsake civilians, or the emperor. They fight to the last for the imperium- knowingly walking to their doom with a shout of defiance and heads held high. For those we cherish, We die in glory! It's not about the torture porn. It's about being the light that won't be extinguished, even if the universe itself conspires to snuff it out.

The Lementors exist to balance out the incredible luck of the Ultra Marines...

The Lamenters are the Textbook definition of Pyrrhic victories.

“For those we cherish, we die in glory” My poor, poor yellow bros😢

"I will never be able to do them justice" It's ok Bricky the Lamenters never get justice.

Their symbol isn't a "crying heart" it's A C T U A L L Y based on the old saying/phrase, "bleeding heart" which basically means you are very empathetic and generally care about everyone being happy or atleast well, especially when it comes to the unfortunate.

Lamenters taxi company. "For those we cherish we drive in glory"

Fun fact, when a ship is lost in the warp, the inhabitants scale of time can be anywhere from 5 seconds to 50 million years. So, theoretically, the Lamenters couldve been lost there for thousands of years... or 30 minutes

21:17 I am imagining the lamenters watching the ork world explode, as they're all battered and wounded and exhausted, and they look behind them at the miniscule amount of people they managed to save. And then a little malnourished human child approaches one of the lamenters, and just hugs them.

The Lamenters ARE THE BEST CHAPTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are the absolute GOOD GUYS in the grimdarkness of the far future where there is only war ;~;

The Lore of the Lamenters in a nutshell: *THE PAIN TRAIN HAS NO BREAKS*

The Lamenters are like the 40k equivalent of the Pokemon move 'Endure'. They survive, but at 1 HP.

The Lamenters are the third most important function in the Imperium of Man, second only to the Emperor himself and his Throne. You see, for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. All that plot armor the Imperials have has to come from somewhere. The Lamenters' plot anti-armor is the counter balance that lets other characters survive.

I don't think people like Lamenters for " Murder and Tragedy Porn. " . I think it's for the " These underdogs are somehow not shooting the Imperium in the back after being stepped on, left out to dry by their allies and then finally given a bit of help from SOMEONE." - I think it's just that people like to cheer for the person that's getting beaten up, sometimes.

They have a cool banner that was literally soaked in the tears of Sororitas because they just foresaw how shit their life would be :)

The Lamenter's are my favorite chapter of space marines.....because in the grim dark world of warhammer they are a group that tries to do what is best for humanity and humans, time and time again, and no matter how beaten down they become, or punished for doing the right thing, they keep coming back and they keep fighting. They lament but never give in.

When you're so unlucky that when Commander Dante calls for help everyone thinks you did the right thing by saying you can't help.

Lamenters: *Are sent on a penance crusade* Black Templars:"SOMEONE SAY CRUSADE?!"

Yellow is a ugly color “I’m am offended and upset.” Lamenters are ugly yellow “Ah, okay. Carry on.”

Imagine this; Sanguinius is revived. All of the Blood Angel chapters gather to him. He walks up to Dante and embraces him. "You are not my son. You, are my brother." He gives Dante the Blood Angels as his personal chapter. Sanguinius turns to the Legions. "You are all my sons." He steps down from his stage. Walks past all of his Successor Chapters. And stands before the Lamenters. "But you, you are my Legion" Sanguinius then goes on to lead the Lamenters as his personal Legion until the end of time.

Would just like to point out the Minotaurs who slapped down the Lamenters recently rebelled against Guilliman so it looks like the yellow boys are going to get the last laugh.

"You can't have a chapter the size of twenty thousand marines or there will be problem, but I will have a chapter with about twice as much, no problem." - probably Guilliman

Concerning the "ork and his gun" story, the TLDR version is: warp travel is wierd, and orks don't really navigate in the warp. An ork spacehulk makes a warp-jump, and due to warp shenanigans, arrives right where they jumped from, a few days before they jumped. The warboss decides to take advantage of this to get a spare of his favorite shoota, and the resulting confusion stops a waaagh before it could get going.

The lamenters: silence galaxy. I do not wish to be unlucky anymore. I just want to be happy

The Lamenters are interesting because they're basically how i think many wish the Ultra Marines are, Where SURE they always 'Win' they always get that victory on the dot... But instead its always at a cost, They ONLY Get the Victory, No Glory, No Honor Just a simple, On Record Victory at any cost.

I feel like there was just that one guy following the Lamenters constantly saying “what could possibly go wrong” and no one had the heart to strangle him

Black Templars are like " if you crusade eternally the Inquisitors can't count your numbers"

In a way, the Lamenters are the least likely chapter to be wiped out completely because that would mean they get to stop suffering. When it comes to painting them, I wonder how a tiny square stamp would work for the checkerboard pattern.

The Badab War was notable because it was a sector-wide civil war/insurgency primarily fought between two varieties of loyalist space marines. The Astral Claws and their fellow chapters like the Lamenters were tasked with guarding the sector from its own warp-tainted region, the Maelstrom. Lugft Huron basically was a great leader who coulda properly purged the Maelstrom, but the high lords of terra repeatedly shot down his proposals without full consideration or let the crusade get underway but then crippled it by diverting whole chapters elsewhere because of some other crisis. Huron eventually goes "fuck it better to beg forgiveness then ask permission", and starts doing all these questionably legal things to build up a crusade force locally. Worst of all is that he low-key stopped paying taxes (claiming checks totally got put in the mail). This escalated until he was declaring the sector independently governed by himself, clashing first with local power groups and then with forces dispatched by Terra once things got out of hand. Astral Claws were doing bigger crimes behind the scenes (all innthe name of building up a crusade force for the good of the imperium), but all the evidence indicates they didn't fall to chaos during the Badab War. They fell *after losing*, and Huron is NOT out of the picture after that.

"For those we cherish, we die in glory." Dang these guys get at my heart strings. I came to 40k to see guys in metal armor beat the crap out of some demons and zeros! Not get sad over hawk man's sad bois ah

"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life..."

My years in The Guard has taught me many things, first among them is that if you're fighting alongside Blood Angles or one of their successor chapters, and you hear someone yell "I Am Sanguineous!!!"...just start running.

To get an abridged and summarized version of this episode, see bruva alfabusa’s video on the lamentors. You will be sad.

For me the reason why the Lamenters are so special is because no matter how much shit comes their way,how low the get, where other chapters would have gone roque or heretical they keep on going. Shitty colour's, amazing lads... If only we could get a better colour skims

Bricky laughs about the Lamenters so that he doesn't cry for the Lamenters.

I love how while Bricky is telling the Story of the Lamenters, and the other guy´s like "wow that must have been terrible for them", Bricky´s just like "BUT WAIT! THERE´S MORE!" over and over again...

And dude forgot to mention how calgar jumped the ultramarine's shit when they got butthurt over declining the iron halo

I think a fair explanation as to why the Lamenters are indeed popular (at least for their lore) is that they're like the 40k of 40k. For most people (DK included), 40k is brutal, unforgiving and just all-around horrible. But it's interesting for it and it's even more impressive to hear about people who do their best to be noble and righteous in such a vicious environment and still push forward. The lamenters are the most intense version of that. They're extremely loyal, despite constant suspicion and rejection, they will sacrifice themselves to protect humanity time and time again, yet despite their best efforts, great heroism and capable military planning, the universe just keeps fucking with them like with noone else. The parts where I would add to make this episode do them a bit more justice is simply emphasising just how noble and true to their cause they actually are. It's that nobility among all that tragedy that makes them stand out from the rest of the Space Marines and I think that's what made them popular enough to win in the patreon vote. But ofc, if anyone wants more details on the Lamenters, I'd say Arch did a very good video on them.

I think the major thing you get wrong about Lamenters is probably the reason why people like them. They're cool because even though they get knocked down they keep getting back up, and they never lose their loyalty. "For those we cherish, we die in glory!"

"Emperor's Teeth!" or "By the Emperor!" are both used quite often in the 40K universe, and could easily be used to replace things like "Oh my God!" or "Jeeezus!"

Speaking of the Badab War, one of the Chapters which participated in it was the Carcharodons Astra, or Space Sharks. They might be a good topic for the future, especially their absolute unit of a Chapter Master, Tyberos the Red Wake

Knowing Lamenters "luck" Iron halo going to make them even squishier! XD Space Hulk Unhallowed Heart seriously no mention of that? Lamenters saved all of warders there.

"For those we cherish, we die in glory"

"the Emperor protects... everyone, every soul... except the Lamenters"- Lord Oof das Gottahurt, Inquisitor

Since you guys are doing Deathguard next episode, maybe look into the story of the group of Deathguard marines who had their connection to Chaos severed. Once they had their connection to Chaos cut, they realized what disgusting bloated monsters they had become, and they all died slowly and painfully, regretting everything. It's a really sad story and it shows how much they were manipulated and blinded by their loyalty to Mortarion.

As one of the dozen Lamenters fans, we did have rules for a named model last edition, but he got moved to legends since he never actually had a model. Malakim Phoros, the chapter master. He was supposedly killed by the Minotaurs, but there are rumors of his survival. His major thing was that he was able to keep the Black Rage at bay, and put himself just to the edge of falling to it and pull himself back after a fight through sheer willpower alone. Edit: Posted this right before Bricky described him lol.

Bring up the Unhallowed Heart, that was a sick battle. The Lamenters' biggest appeal is that through all that, they STILL held noble and true. Not once have they faltered; they exemplify the gritty resilience of unyielding virtue. In a way, they're a statement about how purity fares in 40k - a microcosm of grimdark itself

I'm just starting to get deeper into 40k,and kind of both glad and sad to have learned about Lamentors. This universe deserves kind and caring guardians of innocence. But they need a god damn break. Give them a break, they deserve it!!!! Why do they suffer so!? T_T

I want to walk up to one and hug them and say "Thank you for everything."

Lamenter Story explained in 1 sentence: The Pain Train *Never* Stops

As a die-hard Lamenters fan (their stories got me to learn more about Warhammer) i can safely say you covered all the important points. Good job. Thought you forgot to mention the best part about the penance crusade: you can't deny a fight. If there is trouble on a system you HAVE to go, so yeah pretty much suicidal crusades

I'm him. I'm the guy cheering when they announce the Lamenter model.

School is out for lunch, now the real learning can begin

8:00 Guilliman: "Do you want Heretics? This is how you get Heretics!"

The warp jump took the Ork vessel back in time and upon realising it the Ork Warboss went to kill his other self to get another copy of his favorite gun.

Don’t forget how they tried to answer Dante’s call for help and promptly got attacked by demons on there way to Baal and after making it there the fight was over and this was just before Dante bolstered them (I think)

"For those we cherish, we die in glory!". I cannot think for a more epic motto, in life or fiction, that this one.

I actually really like the lamentors story, they got dealt a shit hand, and all their brothers scorn them, their main allies turned to chaos, and they still stay loyal and do what's right , no matter how hard or dangerous, even when other chapters don't. Id say they're a shining example of what I'd like too see in a chapter

The Astral Claws and Luggy actually ended up becoming probably the most famous and largest Post-Heresy Traitor Marine Warbands, the Red Corsairs.

Ah the Lamenters. Cursed to suffer, but too stubborn to roll over and die. Press F to pay respect.

This is by far my favourite episode. You two made me love the Lamenters. Not because they such sad bois but because of how badass they are when facing insurmountable odds and as far as i can tell having the highest kill death ratio in 40k. My personal goal is to successfully paint a checkered plate on their taxi asses. Love your work keep it coming.

Literally the embodiment of: " Okay, it can't get worse. We have this. " " Okay, now it can't get worse. " " Okay, with the Emperor's grace things shouldn't get any worse NOW. " " Oh coME ON! "

I can’t wait for DK to become like all of us ... overwhelmed by sadness

Statistic idea: amount of times bricks has said untold 🅱️illions

For those we cherish, we die in glory! One of the best, maybe even the best and most inspiring sentence in warhammer.

the squats pic closly followed by devils face just when they talk about GW not killing anything :-D

*stands still and stoic. Tears rolling down there face.* yes I am in fact crying and there is nothing wrong with that. You see these brave men deserve our tears. For all the pain they have suffered, they still remain, as true heroes of mankind. And they deserve to be remembered and mourned properly.

btw, the Lamenters were on year 98 of there 100 years before they got fugged my 'Nids. Its enough to make a man cry.

Someone needs to do a Lamenters troop transport with "BATTLE TAXI" as a decal on it.

They're blood angels, I think that's enough of a reason for them to die this much

46:46 This small interaction tells you everything you need to know about why people love the orks.

Starting to think the guardsmen live longer than lamenters

2:29 Actually "ZOG!" is the correct phrase to use in this context

We covered the most depressed guardsmen division, now for the most depressed space marine chapter.

Mantis also got a penitence crusade and the chapter master was executed. Astral Claws went on and became a little known warband called The Red Corsairs.

Holy shit, I came in and literally, “Welcome to Indomitus Ridiculous” dayumn!!!

And yet they remain loyal. it would be so easy to quit, to give up and run, to give in to chaos and be taken care of... But that's just not the Lamenter way. A tip of a commissars hat for unflinching, unwavering, dauntless loyalty in the face of it all.

Oh boy Look at all these traitors. That sounded too happy and it broke me.

Thanks DK I can not unsee the Taxi Cab reference now.

>me laughing at people struggling to paint a checkboard It's called artist tape, kids, use it.

Listen to the Vox in the Void's narration "Don't Go" It's heart rending in an honorable way that made the sad taxi boys my favorite chapter

On a scale of Angels of Death to Defenders of Humanity, with the Marines Malevolent and the more famous Vulka Fenryka at the AoD end, the Salamanders, and the Lamenters are the pinnacle of DoH. FOR THOSE WE CHERISH, WE DIE IN GLORY! and You thought the Kriegsmen had it bad.

For all the nat20's Ciaphas Cain rolls in life, the lamenters roll nat1's...

On the lamenters color scheme; its actually suppose to be based on Sanguinius's armor who wore a golden suit of armor and a snow leopard pelt. The yellow is suppose to be shiny and kinda gold color, and the checkers are meant to be a shout out to the pelt. I always paint them using a leadbelcher base coat and then painting over it with contrast paint yellow; looks more golden and shiny and nice than taxi colors

The main battle barge of the lamenters is called Mater Lachymarum, "the mother of tears". Which is like the most metal name for a ship I've ever heard.

Nah I'd say Bricky hit the nail on the head, as one of the 6 Lamenter fans I'd say he covered everything someone needs to know about them.

Coming back 2 years later it’s been a year since they did the blood angels episode, that just goes to show how much more interesting the successors of blood angels are than the original chapter

My favorite lamenters moment has to be that one time they saved a bunch of civvies from some iron hands or black legion (cant remember which) and of course they got absolutely smacked. and this one lamenters guy was just being smacked around by this traitor marine whos being like "why do you serve the emperor everyone hates you" and th lamenter just will not fall even as the traitor is done with him and these cultists just pick him apart leaving him blind, mangled and with his tongue cut out. only for at the last moment to be saved by his buds and a whole bunch of civvies who just have a big ol crying session over this fucked up lamenter. our taxicab boys despite everything that has been done to them would rather die the most painful, slow, agonizing deaths instead of falling to chaos.

Failbaddon the Armless. Bacause with the old metal modells you just could *not* make the damn arms stick to the figure! Somewere on the way to the 13th black crussade he got a plastic model (with holding arms) and became useless for his point costs. And thus warth born Failbaddon the Harmless.

Minotaurs are a weird chapter of SMs. They are based on Spartans, like the couple of models available from Forge World look like straight up ancient Greek armor. They're also basically the ass boys of the High Lords of Terra, so they get all the best shit and best resources, but they're basically in charge of taking out other space marine chapters. Like I think historically they've fought more space marines than heretics or xenos. They've even fought the Custodes before. My personal theory is they exist so if the High Lords ever get really heretical they'll still have a chapter of SMs to bodyguard them.

My head canon is that the lost marines from the Lementers turned into the Legion of the Damned

*I think the Lamenters are a show of what happens when you try to be a hero in a galaxy constantly besieged by monsters.* *There are NO heroes in the Imperium, only martyrs and survivors.*

it was less the mechanicus failing to suppress the rage and more the nids eating a lamenter and recognizing some interesting genes then sending out some spores to undo the suppression

You left out where the Space Sharks linked up with the Minotaurs, did a big 80's bro five and then proceeded to literally rip apart the Lamenters(along with everyone else in their way).

The Lamenters being Taxi cabs was always on the tip of my tongue but I couldn't for the life of me place it.

Astral Claws fall to chaos *Doom theme starts playing*

They're unlucky, sure, but their genetic predisposition for melancholy is what I would say serves to severely alienate them from the other space marines, who are generally very unemotional and logical in their decisions. Also the colour scheme is badass but fuck I would never paint it.