I always felt really bad for phone guy. He seemed relatively wholesome, and even though they never met, it felt like he was a friend of the night guard. He seemed genuinely terrified upon his demise
Especially when he asked the nightguard to check the suits in the morning, he knew exactly where he was going to end up, and he tried to calm himself by saying it wouldn't be that bad and that he would get out soon.
despite being such a huge debate in the fandom, the bite of '87 is nearly irrelevant from a plot perspective, aside from leading to the closing of the fnaf 2 location. but great video- i love this analysis.
I mean, they don’t like people breaking the rules (stated by FNaF 1’s first phone call) so maybe withered freddy did it (being used to the “dont touch freddy” rule)
@@waylonjones1752 Put your finger under your shirt. Touch something. Does it leave a print? It doesn't, and Freddy is a bunch of fur, incapable of leaving handprints.
The bite was probably caused by one of the toy animatronics, because they were noted to have gotten more aggressive, even at daytime. My guess is that it might have been Mangle, because she was torn up by the children. This could lead her to do this because of two reasons. First reason is that because of how damaged she was, she could have malfunctioned, and bit the child. The second reason is that she held a grudge, and couldn't take the pain anymore. I don't blame Mangle, though. If I got torn up by children, I would be mad too.
I've always thought it was Mangle, and since the mystery of the bite has been silently dropped, we'll never get any evidence disproving Mangle and no other animatronic fits the bill as well so my verdict is that it had to have been Mangle. As for who killed the Phone Guy, I loved how you were able to use sound to determine who it was, I think there aren't many people out there who really think about the fact that Phone Guy was in your office at the time of his death, so game rules and sounds apply, I've never really seen an analysis like that. However ii still think Golden Freddy killed him, just the fact that he can jumpscare the player and end their game in both Fnaf 1 and 2 proves he can kill and interact with physical objects to a degree. Also its possible that the Fnaf 1 GF is not exactly the same as Fnaf 2 GF, we know that two souls inhabit GF, Cassidy and Cryingchild, it's possible that Fredbear/Fnaf 1 GF represents CC and Cassidy is represented by Fnaf 2 GF so different ghostly rules apply. Since Fnaf 1 GF only disappears and reappears as apposed to having a floating head appear in a hallway, it could suggest a more physical presence than Fnaf 2 GF. But that's just my interpretation, since Chica was in the office at the time of the attack its always possible that she held him in place while Golden Freddy actually did the deed, but I'll let you decide what you think
I personally think there was no bite I think the company forcefully removed someones frontal lobe after discovering secret then removed it and created the whole bite of 87 situation to cover it up
I'm glad someone decided to finally solve this mystery once and for all. It really feels like you put a lot of effort and dedicated a lot of research into this.
Candy Cadet: *Telling the tale of how a worker was mauled by a robot dog and how a worker of Freddy Fazbear’s pizza was murdered* Child: wtf and where’s my candy
I'd like to add onto the evidence for Mangle a bit: during the phone call where he brings up the party, Phone Guy mentions to not let people near the animatronics (or something to that effect). However, since Freddy, Bonnie, and Chica would be on stage, it's unlikely anyone would be getting close enough to get bitten by one of them-but Mangle, as a take-apart-and-put-together attraction, would be getting close enough to bite someone. Love the video, and great video ♥️
Well, before the bite, they would have been allowed to get off the stage and wander around. Remember - Phone Guy says they used to be allowed to wander before the bite.
@@chieff_T yeah but she doesnt really have a proper mouth which can really bite since she has a beak, worst she could do is just like crush an arm or something
The animatronics don't see you as a endo skeleton this has been obvious since 2014, hell bonnie in fnaf 1 walks past a endo skeleton and did absolutely nothing.
@@HornAndHaloWrestling becouse he got programmed to see that part of the pizzeria a Place where he should not go and he can go there only when the soul control him
I always though the Bite of 87 was a Lobotomy Coverup where an employee saw the Withered Animatronics with dead children in them but since Fazbear Entertainment wasn’t gonna shut down another restaurant the Employee was Lobotomised
That's an interesting Theory even though I don't think it's true it's still a interesting take on the FNAF series if it was true even though I doubt it
It's a massive company with (a) sorted history. Of course they would want to protect their reputation. So they could do shady underhanded things to cover up their past so that is a plausibly.
Mangle has always been my favorite animatronic. Her schtick is just so unique and the fact that he's so uniquely tortured by her role as a "pull apart and put together" animatronic adds extra intrigue to the character. I also wonder if maybe Foxy's "Out of Order" sign and the general belief from a lot of staff that he's uniquely dangerous could be related to Mangle causing the bite - as they see Foxy as a different version of Mangle and therefore just as potentially dangerous.
You know what always pissed me off? The fact that FNAF4 wasted it's chance to show the bite of 87, and arbitrarily made it a SECOND BITE (technically happening before 87) for NO reason! Thanks Scott, thanks for never answering this big mystery for us...
I always thought toy Bonnie did it, since I believe the shadows have something to do with agony (example: shadow Freddy, agony from the missing children who were stuffed in the animatronic bodies, therefore shadow Freddy is the agony of Gabriel’s, Cassidy’s or possibly crying child’s death), and then we have shadow Bonnie. If he was formed by agony, like shadow Freddy then something must have happened in order for him to become a corrupted sorrowful figure of his original form, which led me to think he caused the bite, bringing shadow Bonnie to existence as agony of previous events (AKA the bite of 87).
Here's the basic rundown; couldn't be Fredbear because he caused the bite of 83', it can't be Springtrap because the bite happens long before William getting springlocked. It happened during the dayshift, thus eliminating all of the Withereds and Endo 02. Balloon Boy, JJ, the Paper Pals, and the Puppet lack the capability to bite. Shadow Freddy and RWQFSFASXC may not be corporeal, so they couldn't have caused it. Toy Freddy's mouth is way to small, Toy Bonnie still has too small of a mouth for the entire frontal lobe. Toy Chica's beak has too little teeth, and she couldn't bite withount her beak. That leaves Mangle, who has a big enough mouth, can bite, would be around during the dayshift, and on top of that has a motive, that being that she was torn apart ruthlessly.
I think that phone guy survived, as it is show that the restaurant was planning to close BEFORE phone guy “dies”, saying that the place was going to bankruptcy. And even if they did kill phone guy, than the company would discontinue the animatronics immediately
I think that it was one of these animatronics, toy bonnie, toy chica, or mangle. My reason is that all of them attack the frontal lobe (or the head) like mangle comes from above, toy chica says her beak is logged in our head, and toy bonnie lunges at us
The og foxy cause in night 2 or 3 phone guy says quote “ animatronics used to be able to roam around free during the day, but then there was the bite of 87” and fnaf 1 happened before fnaf 2 But if he was talking about it it maybe happened before fnaf 1
For that last theory, if golden freddy can kill you in the 2nd game despite being a flying bear head, then he can for sure kill the phone guy, the iconic golden freddy scream too already shows this in Phone guy's last call
Did you forget that golden Freddy is an illusion? And that possibly the other animatronics could’ve done his jumpscare? Also the fact Golden Freddy and the Fnaf 1 animatronics jumpscares are the same. And also the call might’ve had altered audio.
If You Listen Mangle's Radio Sound Carefully...There Will Be A Saying About Someone Lost His Frontal Lobe AKA The Bite Of 87 Besides....Out Of Every Animatronics In FNAF 2 Mangle Will Kill Players By Jump And Attack From Ceiling. So My Guess Of The Victim Of The Bite Of 87 Was Jeremy Fritzgerald. But Then Again...Mangle's Radio Claim That The One That Was Bitten By Mangle Was A Boy....So Right Now It Has 2 Theories 1. Jeremy's Age Is Around 15-20 2. The Victim Was Actually A Small Boy. Also The Bite Of 87 Happened On November 14th 1987 (I Knew The Date From Bills That Jeremy Got From Night 5-6)
Not only does Toy Chica check all the boxes, but it makes perfect sense for her story-wise aswell, given she was Henry's first character, he probably holds her dear to his heart. On the other hand, William hates Chica with a burning passion, he stuffed his first victim in the original because, if any animatronic had to house a rotting corpse and smell bad because of it, he would've wanted it to be her. That's why when he tampered with the toy models he chose Chica specifically to deliver the last nail in the coffin to the pizzeria, he wanted to kill two birds with one stone by ruining both Chica and Fazbear Entertainment's image at once, this was his revenge plan.
Hmm I wonder how toy chicas mouth fits in an adults frontal lobe 🤔 OH WAIT it doesn’t because if she caused the bite it would be called the “Lodge of 87”
I don't think Toy Chica did it. Mangle has much more evidence to being the cause for the bite. Just a Voice Line isn't enough evidence for me, when another character has more proof for being the cause of it. But nice video, i like how it really goes in depth.
yeah but because she can remove her beak she has easier access to sharp metal teeth. Mangle's exoskeleton has too many plastic teeth to get to the actual endoskeleton teeth. also 2 of her UCN voicelines are about her eating "you". these two lines are " let's go somewhere more private, so i can eat you" and "Where's my beak? lodged in your forehead of course" . Also, the frontal lobe is located near the forehead so yuh
@@oliwcia1791 Every other endo skeleton mouth can move independently of the outer part of the mouth, it's literally how the outer part moves, she could chomp a brain pretty easily.
31:17 Phone guy probably still had some power left when Freddy's game over theme played because the phone was still recording his voice and the recording equipment would probably not work if the power would be down.
Amazing video, it really brings me back to the days of more simple FNAF theories. As much as I love the franchise, the story is ridiculous lol. As a kid, I thought it was foxy, but I realized that the sharp teeth would've been made of plastic, probably not strong enough to go through bone. Plus, his snout would've been too long to expose the endoskeleton teeth. I see a lot of evidence for mangle, and I think it's plausible for him to be the culprit. She *is* the closest to kids after all, since it's a take apart & put back together attraction, but there's still the issue of plastic teeth, which is why I'm a toy chica truther. She can remove her beak, plus the animatronics are pretty big, so maybe a head could fit through the hole that the absence of a beak would create. I wouldn't be surprised if it was mangle, but I like to think it was toy chica gaslight, gatekeep, girlbossing her way into some poor soul's brain matter 🤷♂️
For people who don’t want to watch the video: it was toy chica, mangle was not it. Because in ucn, her voice line was “where’s my beak? *IŃ ŸOŪR FORÊ HĘÃD.”* and also, you can search up the KRABBY patty secret formula, and also, chica killed phone guy, watch a video about it.
About the phone guy When he saw the suits, he probably saw the dead kids' bodies in the suits, so the possessed kids tried to hunt him cause they think they found their killer
I don’t think it was Mangle, however I think it was foxy at the fnaf 1 location. Here’s the reason, mangle is technically a withered animatronic, and Jeremy would have been able to see mangle moving on the ceiling, and phone guy tells him to stay close the animatronics, most likely referring to the main stage. The reason I think it was foxy is because fazbear entertainment is known for being fast, meaning the could’ve reopened the 1985 location quickly. And when phone guy refers to the e animatronics being able to move around during the day, he is most likely talking about the fnaf 1 animatronics. It also explains why foxy is out of order. Also the fact that every lore event that was revealed in fnaf 1, has been confirmed to happen at that location except the bite, so it makes sense that it would’ve happened at that location as well. And the final reason is that it wouldn’t make sense for Scott to bring up an event that was planned for another FNAF when FNAF 1 was supposed to be his last game if it didn’t blow up.
I loved the video and the points you brought up. Also personally it never came to my mind that Mangle could’ve caused The Bite of 87’, though it has been quite awhile since I actually thought about who done it. Anyways I loved the video and can’t wait until the next upload! :)
Man, can you imagine? you're in a fun birthday party and then suddenly one of the animatronic bites an employee and everybody starts screaming, the cops and ambulance come, the event is halted, nobody can eat their pizza anymore with the traumatic event.
Personally I think it’s Bonnie, but I am waiting for the new game to understand it fully. This is because I believe the new game might help my theory slightly.
it woulve been really cool to have bonnies face only be removed because of the bite as he got out of the parts and service room for no apparent reason and to prevent that from happening again they took is upper jaw
Now Chica and Mangle are obviously the best candidates but for all of those who didn't watch the vid and went straight to the comment section I'll tell you why it's not Toy Chica. First of all (and this is obvious) Chica's Mouth isn't big enough to do that damage to a human skull, but you could say "Maybe Toy Chica just removed her beak and probably impaled who ever was attacked in the bite of 87" , and you could be right but also in Phone Guys call he said it's amazing how a human can live without the frontal lobe implying that the frontal lobe during the bite of 87 was completely removed but as we said earlier her mouth is not big enough to do that much damage. But the reason why Mangle is the better option is because mainly because her/his jumpscare when Mangle jump scares you it aims for your head where your frontal lobe is located, and unlike others it would actually have a motivation to do this mainly because of the toddlers that tortured Mangle in kids cove.
Awesome video!!! Also I subbed :) also I believe either it was Foxy or Golden Freddy and why I think them, Foxy because he is the most agressive out of all of the Animatronics thus is why he could be most likely to attack and in my opinion more likely than Mangle to have caused the bite, Golden Freddy because he throws his head at you thus would cause a bite, thus is why I think its those two, and I respect your opinion about Mangle causing ut
Toy chica’s voice line in ucn gives it away. In the bite of 87’ it was a bite in the forehead and what does toy chica’s voice line say? “Where’s my beak? Lodged in you’re forehead of course”
Mangle has this teeth and the toys are gonna be distroyed for something they did during the party birthday , the withered are kept to be rebuild as being fnaf 1 animatronics
11:50 hold on, I'm pretth sure it was made up by phone guy to make a reason of why do animatronics try to kill you. They don't touch Endo-01 and Endo-02 wanders around the location untouched (he goes into the left went). And if you think about it, it would make 0 sense to program them to do this
I think I might be able to disprove the Chica Killed Phone Guy theory. If Freddy was in the kitchen, Phone Guy must have been looking at cameras to hear it, and it must’ve been really close the recording to even hear it. So Freddy’s music box being loud enough to hear through the recorder instead of quiet like we can only faintly hear him in the cameras. When Foxy was banging on the door it should be considered that Foxy drains power when banging on the door. Chica’s breathing could be disqualified since Phone Guy said he was having a bad night, so he wasn’t only being teamed on, he already was in danger, meaning Phone Guy might not have enough power left, and blocking Bonnie and Foxy out we’re wasting the power along with Foxy robbing his power, so Phone Guy might have not been checking any cameras so Chica wouldn’t attack. Also, playing the game and having Bonnie or Chica at your door and running out of power would cause them to retreat and allow Freddy do his thing, meaning Chica could have been sent back by Freddy. So I might have disproved your theory? Nonetheless, it’s still a really good theory.
One comment I have on why it may not be mangle, They said the bite lead to the removal of their ability to walk during the day. Mangle doesn’t walk or at least shouldn’t be able to with their state.
Actually there is one thing that disproves mangle being the one who caused the bite is that it's most likely turned off as to not electrocute the kids playing with it.
Finally someone who mentioned the withered animatronics not being allowed outside. I always found the Foxy theory so stupid. If Foxy was out of order because of the bite, that would mean when Freddy's reopened years later they set Foxy up in Pirate Cove knowing full fell it wouldn't even be open.
me i think it was mangle cuz look at her jumpscare in fnaf 2, it clearly looks like she is gonna bite you, and she is the only animatronic in the fnaf series to do so, let's take someone else, for example chica, she look like she is like playing with you rather than biting you
proof that the bite of 87 wasnt 1987, in night 1 in fnaf 1, phone guy says that the animactronic's have been singing the same songs over and over for 20 years, which means fredbears diner wasnt opened up in 1983, it was 10 years before
I don’t think toy chica could have done it because the beak hole ( the place left when she removes her beak) wouldn’t be big enough to fit a child’s head in there
Id say toy Chica because notice her design while she has a beak in the posters but no beak when shes in the vents/your office/ her jumpscare which could be the reason for her absent beak unless there is proof of a mangle like situation and a kid took her beak off or something else which is unlikely
Freddy and Foxy get our during the night. It may be open in the night and could have been forgotten to be closed and even without that they are probably strong enough to kick it open
This is the differences of “The Bite of 1983” and “The Bite of 1987”, let’s start with the 83 one: In “1983”, Evan Afton (The Crying Child) died in 1983 because his brother: Michael Afton put Evan’s head on Fredbear/Golden Freddy’s mouth and “BITE” that was “The Bite of 1983” Alright let’s go to the “1987” one: In “1987”, A 21 year-old guy named: Jeremy Fitzgerald worked at “Night 7” but an animatronic named: Mangle (Toy Foxy) thought that Jeremy was William Afton, So she bite Jeremy’s front lobe but Jeremy did actually survive because in “Five Nights At Freddy’s 1”, Night 1: Phone Guy said: It’s amazing that the human body can survive without the front lobe, So Jeremy did survive The Bite of 1987
I always hated how everyone assumes the victim was a child at the party. Remember the Night 4 call, where Phone Guy states the animatronics were acting aggressively towards the staff and get along fine with the kids, but stare when they see an adult. I actually think Jeremy Fitzgerald was the victim. He was on the day-shift that day. And the animatronics have been trying to jump him for the past week, and it was a perfect chance to do so.
I think the victim was Jeremy too but I believe the misconception that a child was bit comes from mangle's radio where people hear an officer saying there's a little boy who's missing their frontal lobe. Honestly it throws me off too and i noticed it's disregarded in the video because no one knows what to make of it
I think also, the audio is just a stock sound effect so in reality, the message is just random gibberish that doesn’t have anything to do with the Bite
Exactly. Angry robots have been trying to get to him for the past week. So when he's given a role to stand close to the animatronics in the day shift, it was the perfect chance to jump him (thanks to mangle)
I always thought it was mangle, the way his jumpscare animation is literally her swooping down and biting you in the head gives you obvious clues that he's the one who did it. I also always liked mangle because of her design, and because of the brand new mechanic he introduced.
@@jacobsworld7573 mangles gender is confirmed yes by Scott but I think that mangle might be genderfluid because in fnaf ucn mangles description changes from he to her in mangle and phantom mangle and nightmare mangle
Imagine just minding your own business when BB waltzes up to you, floats up to your head with a balloon, and just takes a bite out of your head like an apple.
Scott Already revealed Who it was, it was Toy Bonnie, in 1 minigame when you can wander the pizzeria when you get to the main stage you can see there is pool of blood below Toy Bonnie, and just Next to it is body of an child
I could see Scott one day revealing the culprits randomly online in like 12 years. It just feels like such a Scott move to wait years after his retirement, and to never mention the series for ages, and then just return from the grave and casually unveil one of the greatest mysteries in the entire series
considering that the children are the ones possessing animatronics, they most likely do not know how to act with adults or do not due to their deaths caused by the man behind the slaughter
Reasons why I think it’s Mangle: She has a large enough jaw She can open it big enough No, it isn’t Withered Foxy, since he is deactivated in Parts/Service during day Mangle can be the ONLY animatronic to dangle on walls and knowing now that the bite was on the Frontal Lobe, she might have swung down from the ceiling and bite him.
I always thought the Bite of 87 was highly over analyzed by the Fandom. It's clear Scott Cawthon never intended for it to be important, and I think he just needed a way of telling the player that the Robots are dangerous and are capable of hurting people, so he added a small story about one biting a kids frontal lobe off. That sends the message that they're dangerous perfectly fine. However it became another case of Fans taking something in the lore and ramping it up to grand importance.
well to be fair you could argue that scot kinda hyped it up himself in FNAF 4 with the iconic 'Iz ThAT THe BiTe Of 87!?" only for it to end up being a 'gatcha!" moment and it's reveled to be a completely different biting event that we've never heard of until now
@@camoking3609 I'm pretty sure the entire purpose of the bait-and-switch was to get people to stop theorizing about the Bite of '87, because he never really intended for it to be important. He was basically saying "Ok, you want a bite that's actually important? Here you go." (turns out it either wasn't important or we just haven't figured out anything important about it)
I would like to add something! It's implied the '87 bite victim was an employee rather than a customer! The toys are connected to a criminal database so they can protect the kids from possible predators. However this facial recognition system doesn't really work well, causing their staring problem with adults. In the same line where phone guy 2.0 states they act differently with children, they also state they're almost aggressive towards staff workers. Due to their nature, I doubt it would be a child victim as they show no resentment towards them and that includes Mangle so that slightly makes her less likely.
to my knowledge the toys don’t actually detect predators or connect to a criminal database, they’re actually set to detect william afton, to keep him away from this location. the animatronics messed up and mistook you (micheal) for him, which is why THEY are trying to attack you.
Actually- FNAF 2 isn't Michael, or at least he isn't Nights 1-5. Michael is theorized to be Fritz Smith aka the guard during Night 6 but the guard transferred to the dayshift during the party at Night 5 is actually Jeremy Fitzgerald, the paychecks are different. And yes, the toy animatronics' purpose was to prevent William from keep him away but they actually are connected. In fact it's theorized by some that William, using the Spring Bonnie suit, actually tampered and with the sensors to make them malfunction.
While you're right about the employee getting bit, there's a different reason for it. The malfunctioning facial recognition is a lie, made up by Phone Guy, to explain Toys' behaviour, just like the endoskeleton lie in FNAF1. Remember that they're possessed by 5 kids, killed in SAVETHEM minigame. And as we know from FNaF2, William is the night guard before Jeremy, which is exactly why the animatronics try to kill Jeremy too. They don't need to recognize the face, they just see the uniform and go insane. Posting him next to the animatronics during the day is asking for trouble. What did the PG say? "Stay close to the animatronics. Remember to wear your uniform."
Imagine it's because mangle is so broken down (kids taking her apart and stuff) that the criminal database corrupted in mangle's system and mangle just attacked someone
I believe that those handprints on Freddy's face are actually from the bear himself. In the West Hall corner, there is a rare chance that the Freddy poster hung up on the wall will change to a poster of Freddy pulling his own head apart, with his hands in the exact same positions as the handprints on his head in the photo.
also an important argument against the hand thing is: its the right hand on the left eye and thus the left hand on his lower jaw which is very unlikely if u fight against smth and then you wouldnt cross ur arms in such a weird way
I always took it as mangle due to how he swoops down but I’ve always liked her as a character due to his name, design (not in a weird way), and just the unique gameplay mechanic she introduced.
In an alternate universe "And then there was the Bite Of 87, yeah, it's incredibly confusing how a character like (*insert character name here*) could bite an entire frontal lobe off."
In an alternate universe "And then there was the Bite Of 87, yeah, it's incredibly confusing how a character like witherd Bonnie could bite an entire frontal lobe off."
@@chippdbanjo notice the exo-teeth are blunt. Even Mangle's end in a blunt top rather than perfect points like the Nightnares' teeth. The endo-teeth, however... at least in the models during 1987 are sharp. Mangle's long snout and well as dysfunctional jaw would make biting a human head hard. Toy Chica? Remove the beak. Bam. Endo teeth OUT. Further proof could be the refurbished ones have DULL endo teeth, and Chica (FNAF 1) cannot remove her beak. And they aren't allowed to leave the stage. It also had to have been a toy because the toys were scrapped.
"And then there was the Bite of '87... Yeah, turns out the Paper Pals had little tiny razor teeth all along... We had to use over a dozen pairs of scizzors to stop those monsters..."
There’s multiple things we need to know. Withered Bonnie, Balloon Boy and The Puppet get eliminated because of no functioning jaws to bite with. The Withereds can’t do it, because if they did, the toy animatronics wouldn’t get scrapped, the older models would. That eliminates Freddy, Chica and Foxy. Then the Toy models. I doubt Toy Bonnie. His jaw doesn’t open that far. Might scrape a bit of your head, but thats it. Same goes for Toy Freddy. I also doubt Toy Chica. Can she open her beak? She can remove her beak, but can she open it substantially? That leaves Mangle. The perfect culprit. Close to the kids and the adults. Kids keep taking her apart, Jeremy tells the kids not to mess with Mangle, boom, Mangle strikes.
It’s definitely not the withered animatronics because think of it. Withered. not the 1993/1990 animatronics Small theory: maybe W. foxy did the bite but fazbear entertainment blamed the toy animatronics maybe because they thought that the animatronics weren’t working out or something plus the employees said that the toy animatronics were acting creepy around them or something idk.