Who DESERVED to be the 6th SPECIAL WAR POWER in Bleach: TYBW? Did Yhwach MISS One? | Discussion 

Who do you think deserved to be a Special War Power in TYBW? Do you agree with any of my picks at all? Let me know your choices down in the comments!

Without a doubt Mayuri should've been listed for his madness.

I love that Juha looked at Kisuke and said "Idk what he's gonna do, but he's gonna do some shit. I want eyes on him"

Obviously Chad is the 6th War power. He was gonna Dempsey Roll the Quincy King.

I feel the underestimation of Shinsui as a leader ultimately led to the downfall of the Quincy. He is really the reason they won. He made all the right decisions. Using Aizen, remotivating the shinigami, his power, his strategies, his experience and more. Dude was a menace. The most low key MVP.

I think most here agree that Mayuri would be right on that list.

What about everybody's favorite uncle Tsukishima? his power turned out to be crucial in dealing with the Almighty and restoring Ichigo's blade.

I feel like Mayuri wasn't listed mostly due to being highly underestimated due to Aizen and Urahara. Just being seen as a lesser threat they likely didn't think to take him very seriously, and Mayuri in some ways thrives off being put into unexpected situations that spark his desire to come up with creative solutions being a bit of a madman.

I'll say Mayuri Kurotsuchi. He's a genius mad scientist that can prepare for almost anything. He was instrumental in the war.

Shunsui gets underestimated a lot. Not only is he strong, he is a pretty good tactician. One of the best in the series. Without his decisions, the Gotei would have lost the war. He is very pragmatic and smart.

had they listened to Mayuri, Yama might not have died beyond that he revived a bunch of Shinigami, saved another of the 5 threats from getting turned into a pretzel, help keep Aizen on lockdown and took out a Schutzstaffel member.

I was very surprised when mayrui wasn’t on the war powers list, especially after what we see him do in TYBW. He could be listed as a war power for his “countermeasures” and his “abandon for teammates lives.” These are pretty crucial in how he was able to do so well in the war

I honestly wonder just how messy things would have been had Aizen actually teamed up with Ywach initially 😂😂😂. Mayuri is definitely a worthy candidate as a 6th war potential. In my person opinion, I think Uryu could have potentially been a war potential considering the potential Ywach saw in him. It’s just a shame his role was minimal in the manga.

Chad for sure. He could never lose

Prayers that we get to see a Segunda Etapa from Grimmjow in the anime. Even if it's shoehorned in, that would be sick as hell

God I really hope grimmjow gets more to do in this arc, just one full fight for him is all I'm asking for

But Kenpachi being a threat without proper shinigami training just shows how much he'll still be that guy no matter how much you nerf him

Ukitake is the only person I can consider a war potential. And that is solely because he is possessed by the hand of the soul king. If he weren’t sick and using the hand’s power to keep himself alive, he would be a beast able to use that power in battle.

One thing I kinda wanna see is a spin off show chronicling what happened to the Quincy and what they did during g the 1000 years

As tommo said, the main factor that unites all the special war powers is that they have an unquantifiable variable, making them seem unpredictable. Ichigo and Kenpachi didn't fully manifest their potential, Aizen can evolve with the hogyoku, Urahara has vast foresight and can calculate unforeseen scenarios, and Ichibei's knowledge knows no bounds. I think that's why Yamamoto wasn't on the list, aside from spite. As powerful as he was, he was still calculable, meaning the Vandenreich could form a plan around him - which they did, ending with his defeat. This justifies why other powerful characters - like Ukitake, Kyoraku, the Vizards - weren't on the roster either - they are extremely powerful, but they are also calculable (if you exclude Mimihagi, which the Vandenreich likely had no knowledge of).

It's probably for the best the list was kept limited. Yhwach must've known that 'yes' was not always going to be the answer.

Mayuri easily. I was rewatching the animated arc in dub, and his dub voice actor does a VERY good job displaying Mayuri’s disgust at the head captain’s negligence throughout the course of both Cours. Overlooking his desire to surpass Kisuke was a critical oversight on Yhwach’s point. He saved the Vizards, worked in tandem with Kisuke to propel Ichigo up to the royal realm, he saved both Toshiro AND Zaraki, two captains who would become top tier later in the war. He figured out a way to stop Bambi and Gigi in their tracks, and saved Ikkaku and Yumichika as well. He managed to take down the left arm of the soul king, at the cost of Nemu, but in turn has the means to make a new and improved Nemu in the future. He has absolutely stepped from under Kisuke’s shadow. Any smart villain would seek to neutralize him first going forward.

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I wish they make a CFYOW anime one day, it really shows how much Zaraki grow from tybw to cfyow. Probably the biggest spike in power in a short period.

I believe Yachiru (Retsu) Unohana would have been a great pick. Mainly for her bloodthirst, sword style knowledge, and ability to damn near resurrect people non-stop. She was part of the original 13 Court Guard Squads and was seen as a mentor to a lot of people. She could also be a little muddy in how soft she potentially was but I feel like someone with healing ability to that degree should be seen as a threat due to how they can keep the battle going longer and longer.

I fully agree with your picks especially the new head captain and the vizards and Grimmjow the Quincy really underestimated all the others which if they hadn’t then the outcome would have probably been different

This was a really great video idea that much have wondered about but haven’t called out to. Thanks once again for such a great video!

The uncrowded potential is definitely Mayuri Kurotsuchi. Cour 3 and 4 will prove that. Grimmjow and Captain Commander did bring a lot of value each aiding in battles against the waffle gang, but Mayuris interventions calculated how the Wanderich invaded and how to remove that ability for the war.

I think there are pretty good reasons as to why some of these characters weren't counted as a special threat... Firstly the lack of information on Ukitake is a factor.Ukitakes deal with Mihigami was certainly a core threat to the grand scheme.But we can presume Yuha wasn't aware of this. Secondly regarding Mayuri.Yuha just didn't have enough information about him and what he was capable of...His overall showing up until the TYBW where limited...Even almost dying to Uryu (i would guess this would be a reason too).Yuha made the list based off what certain characters did up until the war started.And from what he could conclude Mayuri was basically a much inferior version od Kisuke.Because Kisuke was the one that indirectly defeated Aizen with his plan. And Kyoraku is kind of the same...He was only really put in a position of leadership when Yama died.So.there was no way for Yuha to know what his successor would be like.And plus he probably didn't know what his bankai did. Regarding the last two Grimjow and the Visards...I think Yuha probably concluded they where overall too weak to matter.Consisering how he decimated Harribel.

I want to vote Kyoraku for his tactical prowress because the moves he made...made him unpopular with the squad, but he was able to keep their morale high and delegate. But realistically, Old Man Mayuri (now that I know he's damn old) probably takes this.

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Tsukishima, if Yhwach have ever met him before, I'm sure he would create mental damage that change quincies to be on his side (since most of them don't have strong enough will except likes of Jugram, and a few), imagine he perfectly control Gremmy. And don't forget his BotE is literally "The Almighty Killer", "The Balance Breaker", and possible "The Antithesis counter (since he can insert himself before antithesis could activate to alter the outcome)", all of these makes Yhwach considered him to be 6th war potential if he has ever met him.

I think he should have viewed tsukashima a war potential because of book of the end and i also think that he should have know about his still sliver weakness and he should have been aware of Ryukens existance as the last pure blood quincy on earth and saw him as a threat and eliminated him and the corpse of kanae katagiri

The new Head Captain is a unpredictable variable. He is different to his former Head Captain who brings new methods and tactics. Shunsei defo a 6th war potential.

I think if they'd seen Mayuri's battle in Hueco Mundo, they definitely would've put Mayuri on the list.

I'd be curious on your thoughts on who could potentially be the next Kenpachi if anything ever happened to Zaraki. He's too cool and loved of a character for that to ever happen but it is fun to speculate!

I think that Unohana should be there. She's the antithesis of both Yamamoto and Zaraki: she's the same beast that she was 1000 years ago, and she's actually unstoppable in battle. She should be there for her "bloodlust"

Even as a die hard Kenpachi fan, i have to admit that Mayuri is the most dangerous man in all of bleach

Huh, I never considered that when you pointed out that argument for Grimmjow. Every time he shows up in a battle, a Quincy dies lol. What a crazy boi lol

Such a great video idea def will deliver

Grimmjow was definitely a threat, but his feats in the arc were not all that impressive, sadly. Seeing as how Grimmjow is seemingly able to partially enter his resurreccion without calling Pantera (his blackened clawed hand), I have a theory that Kubo may have been planning on perhaps showing that Grimmjow reached a second release, given how Shinigami who have achieved Bankai can activate their Shikai without calling upon their Zanpakuto. Of course, Kubo would've ultimately changed his mind if that was the case, as later on we are shown nothing of the sort. It would be truly epic if we get to see a second release Grimmjow in the TYBW anime, though. I, for one, will scream.

So, what is the limit of Tsukishima’s power after he passed into the soul society? When he was alive, it was implied that his power only affected memories. However, fixing Ichigo’s sword was proof that his ability could in fact influence physical matter, at least in the soul society. Makes you wonder what kind of other stuff he’s capable of. Could he cut someone and make it so they had a child in the past, basically creating a new life? Who knows…..

I didn't even watch the video yet but this might be one of the best bleach speculation videos ever!

Would be cool to see a video talking about potential candidates to join squad zero

The reason why it can’t be Mayuri is that Nemu is the key to bringing out the full potential of a lot of his shenanigans. She’s had a key role in nearly every battle he’s been in. /s

I believe Orihime would've been a really good major war power because of the fact that she can reverse the state of seemingly anything within her Sōten Kisshun barrier. Healers are often a priority in magical battle because of how quick they can send back an adversary previously defeated to the battlefield. Somebody with powerful and fast healing abilities such as Unohana is quite the threat, but Orihime goes above and beyond that as she doesn't heal, but reverses the targets state. No matter how deep the wound is, she can restore it - even bringing the dead back to life. Among each character, Orihime, Maryuri, and Ukitake should've been the top 3 individuals that the Quincy should've aimed to killed before they started the war. They didn't know about Ukitake's secret, so that's understandable, plus him and Mayuri are pretty heavily guarded within the Gotei 13, and are powerful themselves. Orihime however, is extremely vulnerable and should've been a MUST for them to kill before the Quincy showed themselves. Just imagine when they did get rid of the actual war powers, Orihime comes in and brings them back. She is too dangerous.

This is simple. Kenpachi is in the list, so that saves Unohana a spot. Urahara is in the list, that saves Mayuri a spot.

Nailed it! Great video. I agree with your rationale for the Vizards and Arrancar not being included because of their Hollow relations. I think Mayuri may have been overlooked because Kisuke was pivotal in Aizen’s defeat, not Mayuri. Also, Mayuri was defeated by a young & significantly weaker Uryu.

Mayruri would make the most sense.

Visored bankai can be stolen. Ichigo's couldn't be stolen not because he had hollow powers, but because the zanpakuto itself was not based on an Asauchi, instead Ichigo's inner hollow served as the asauchi itself. For that reason the zanpakuto itself was made out of Hollow reishi, that's why it couldn't be stolen by Quincy, to whom hollow reishi is toxic.

I can already see it. Mayuri for his "unethical approach". There are no boundaries the man is not willing to cross.

Interesting you do make some good points

Uryu should be on the list. After all, someone who can survive the Aushwahlen isn't someone who can be ignored. Also, he is the most likely to have a grudge against Yhwach and the Wandenreich because his mother was killed by them. It makes so much sense that Yhwach recruited him to offset thia threat.

This video actually made me think about something quite interesting. In the even that the Vizards attempted to poison the Sternritter with Hollow reiatsu, is it possible for Askin to consume a bit of it and then render the Quincy immune to it by vastly increasing the lethal dosage?

Shunsui for his deception. Goes from losing to Robert to killing First transformation lille. I remember him saying his Zanpakutō doesn’t go all out unless she needs to also no one knows all his powers and move sets

Tsukishima could have been an interesting pick too, ig Ywach didn't even knew of Tsukishima's existence but fixing something the almighty broke is pretty unaccounted for.

Yama and Mayuri are the ones I think fit, Shunsui and Ukitake could’ve been if we’d seen them do more.

Yamamoto is the obvious answer. But if we aren't including him, Mayuri Kurotscuchi should've been one imo. Cause he's almost as intelligent as Urahara but far more of a risk taker and ruthless, and he has probably the most W's in this arc despite not being a War Potential. Hell he and Nemu defeat Pernida, a quincy who would've been very difficult to defeat for any other Shinigami at The Royal Palace, besides maybe Ichigo.

Nice you did there with the Vizards.

A great video would be Yamamoto vs Kyoraku tactics. Who is the better commander strategically

It would’ve been pretty cool if Kubo gave Grimmjow a proper power up and incorporated the hollows better in a story about the Quincy. That said Mayuri Kurotsuchi is the pick

Orihime definitely should have been a War potential or at least someone Yhwach had his eye on

Those marching out the zombies eps were two of my faves in the tybw anime Mayuri my goat😍🥰

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A very obvious one that you left out I think, would be Yoruichi. Her Zanpakuto for starters, is a mystery. She's also so powerful that she punches and kicks people when others have to use some kind of weapon. She also embodies that chaos that you were talking about in reference to Grimmjow, but better. I do, however, mostly agree with you putting him on your list. He was definitely my favorite surprise in that arc. My nonobvious answer would be Rukia. The reason being that she seemingly won't die or seems to be "unkillable" to put it in a way that Yhwach probably would. Every time somebody thinks she's dead or lost, she wins. She in the same stream of thought, manages to surprise you. She was also one of the earliest characters to one shot an Arrancar. I also don't believe she killed As Nodt just by simply freezing him. I feel as though she destroyed his soul in the process.

I think YW reasoning was pretty solid actually. Yamamoto being a bloodthirsty killer that would do anything w all that power was what made him unpredictable. Losing that perspective he ended up being easy to deal with. Him not utilizing humans, hollows, fullbringers and Vizard was most def why everything was nearly destroyed w the casualty rate

Yeah Mayuri for sure, incredibly clutch straight up MVP menace behavior. Black sandle energy If anything I might add Oetsu, maybe for "Intimate knowledge of Zanpaktou" or something like that, he allowed Ichigo to unlock his potential, he knew exactly what to show and where to send him and yeah he kinda overlaps with Ichibei and Urahara but he could've been a factor in sorting out the bankai stealing situation and then the anime framed as a kind of a de facto leader of the Zero Squad. Also Unohana is a big maybe as well, much like with Ukitake , Yhwach may not know the history of her true nature, although he should've imo because she was there 1000 years ago, tearing up Quincies. To me head medics should always be a high priority anyway.

I dunno about this one Mr.Tommo. I mean when you look at the Hollow's which are my favorite characters and how being a poison dagger they could be in the back of the Quincy. I think either we are missing the obvious or Kubo is just not making much sense here. I mean Hollow reiatsu is deadly and sure we can say Visords and Grimmjow should be a venom like foe but if this was the case then one would think invading Hueco Mundo was a death wish with the entire place made up of Hollow reiatsu and Hollow's, Espada, Vasto Lords running around and fighting back. However we know the Quincy just steam rolled right over them. So as I have said, it must be something we are missing or Kubo just is making a mistake here. I never understood how Hollow reiatsu was said to be like a poison to them but walking into the viper pit of Hueco Mundo was just easy to them. I mean it was to be taken first which ment the Quincy could afford losses before attacking the Soul Society. I think Kubo should explain this in more detail and give us some answers but I am sure it will take years before we get an answer.

I think another credit to Grim is that he could handle himself against Ichigo, yes maybe not in tybw terms but he did give ichigo the go around and does clearly think he's capable of fighting him again, i really want to see where Grims power level is at compared to ichigo in the tybw arc.

This is more theoretical, but if Orihime had the same killer instinct that everyone else has, she definitely would be on the list with her powers.

My favorite pick of yours was probably grimmjow! He's one of my favorite characters so maybe I have I bias, but I liked that you included him

I like this list, everyone mentioned could definitely be in the running for a spot. But it did remind me of probably one of my biggest gripes with how TYBW played out: The Vizards. I understand from a practicality standpoint Kubo wanted to showcase their shinigami power since we barely saw any of it previously, and that there was just a lot going on with time running out, but once he introduced the hollowfied bankai pills that was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back. Sure, that works for the regular shinigami who either had their's stolen or couldn't use them for fear of being stolen, but you're telling me that the guys with hollow masks couldn't bust out their hollow powers when they do super effective/critical damage to the enemy? The fact that a reason had to be created afterwards to explain why they generally didn't use their masks is telling enough. Kubo could have easily added like one or two panels of Kensei explaining the reason to Hisagi while he was out in the rukongai with Mashiro... but I'm willing to bet he hadn't thought of it yet. And to be fair, the anime could have done this like they added other additional context elsewhere, but they didn't. Guess we'll have to see if an opportunity to bring it up again in the last 2 seasons comes up, since we know there's gonna be more significant changes there. Until a character outright says they were banned from using their masks within Sereitei for whatever reason, I don't buy it. It's been awhile since I've gone through cfyow/safwy so I don't recall if it was stated there, but I take those two with a pinch of salt either way. I view those as like half canon anyhow, and you know damn well if they decide to adapt some of it in the anime it's going to be revised somewhat with Kubo more directly involved now.

My guess as to why the Vizard's bankai's COULD have been stolen is due to their Shinigami and Hollow powers being distinctly separate, and thus their hollow reiatsu isn't actually apart of their shinigami reiatsu or bankai. On the other hand, Ichigo's shinigami and hollow powers are effectively the same thing, and thus trying to steal his bankai is equated to trying to steal a hollows power inherently. That still doesn't explain why the Vizard's didn't use their hollow powers regardless, but it at least explains their bankais.

Unohana should have been one. She's the only Captain apart from Yamamoto to have been from the original war, as well as being the key to unlocking Kenpachi Zaraki's true strength

18:52 “He only shows up every now and then but when he does, it’s often FATAL” That’s gotta be intentional considering who he ends up killing lol

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How about byakuya?

Honestly, most people say it'd be Mayuri but I wished it was Toshiro. I really didn't understand why he wasn't allowed to train with Ichigo and the others in Reiōkyū. It would have been more than promising. He also reverted back to his roots like Ichigo. This was the opportunity to utilize this character. Hitsugaya was the praised prodigy of the Gotei 13.

Mayuri's ability to adapt and making some sort of escape plan is truly unbelievable...

My college roomate Tsukishima deserved a mention.... His power is wild... I call him Tsuki-dono

Obviously the 6th War Potential would have been Commander Yamamoto with both arms. Urahara did say that Shinigami release their energy through their wrists. So Yama was stuck at 50% power the whole time.

In my opinion kisuke could do anything mayuri could but mayuri could only do most of what kisuke could. Maybe I’m wrong but that’s why I don’t think mayuri is a war power even tho he hard carried a lot of the war.

Let’s see what they do next season to fill any holes

I don't why but there something about he's voice that make me invested

My vote would have to go to Byakuya. I haven't seen many comments yet mentioning his name, which is partially why I think he should be on the list. His sheer determination to never quit and ability to keep reinventing himself time and time again are dangerous for starters. Besides this he is wise and has a calm, collected way of thinking. His cunning and elegant fighting style allow him to make perfect use of his broad skillset. To me he's like that one mosquito in your room, annoying, distracting, and every now and then it will land and sting. Just enough off the radar and perfectly capable to ruin the enemies operation.

Wrong. The 6th Special War Power is Yachiru. When Yhwach was shown a photo how pretentiously she was sitting on a chair, he immediately noted her Special War Power.

Mayuri hard-carried the Gotei 13. He definitely deserves the War Power tag for Ingenuity.

the one cannon fight that we know Ywach has seen Mayuri fight in would be Mayuri vs. Ishida. Not surprising he overlooked if it was just based on that.

I like how Ichibe got more reasoning behind hus wisdom potential in the anime. Not only was he preparing Ichigo, not only is it confirmed that he lured Yhwach and the Schutzstaffel to the Soul Palace to eradicate them (possibly their way of aiding the Gotei 13) but he is also the one who sealed away the Almighty. Making his wisdom the main reason Yhwach lost the first war. Also, Yamamoto wasn't turned down from the position out of spite due to weakness. It was because he was no longer an unknown. Originally, Yamamoto was someone who used anyone and anything to kill his enemy. How do you plan for someone who is so powerful AND that ruthless? You can't, they have no weakness to exploit. But current Yamamoto has gone soft, and that left him vulnerable. Yhwach could now make plans to deal with him. Which is exactly how he lost. Yamamoto is proof that power level has nothing to do with being a war potential. The closest you get is Zaraki, but even then, it's the unknown factor, having no idea how strong he is, that made him a war potential. Mayuri isn't an unknown. His merits don't matter. The fights with the Schutzstaffel prove why Urahara was chosen and not Mayuri. Mayuri was in a desperate state, and nothing he did worked. Ultimately, he had to he saved by Nemu having a spontaneous evolution and acting independently to survive. Urahara meanwhile was in control from start to end. The fight was over before it even began. Askin never had a chance. In fact, Pernida could he argued as showing how a fight between Mayuri and Urahara would go down. Shunsui's strategies are more common sense than anything incalculable. Obviously youd train Zaraki. Obviously, you'd try and ally with Aizen when desperate enough. Once again, it's not an unknown. I agree with you about Ukitake. Interestingly, I don't think the Vizards are immune to Bankai theft like Ichigo. They aren't perfect hybrids. It's unlikely that their Zanpakuto spirits are hollows like Zangetsu. In fact, I think that was confirmed by Kubo, but I can't remember for certain. I'd argue Halibel would be the bigger war potential because of her infinite combat potential. Her rez state would be particularly nasty against Quincy. Which would further explain why Yhwach delt with her personally.

Definitely Mayuri. Uryu could've also been 1 if Yhwach viewed him as a potential enemy

You should do who else should've been promoted alongside askin naklavarr

This is hard because its clear he made the list for beings who could beat him BEFORE he claims the soul kings power for himself .

Mayuri, he did even more than all of the war powers. Under normal circumstances it would be Yamamoto, but he lost his arm and he wasnt the same guy from before. Kyoraku is another choice, he made incredible decisions which helped tilt the landscape somewhat.

I feel like Grimjow could be a war potential for just being such an unpredictable & strong rogue warrior. If the arc was longer he could’ve been a Ghost of Tsushima type character that could beat a sternritter & company and vanish.

Yoruichi and/or another royal family member with abilities and/or knowledge Yuha deems dangerous seems like a decent 6th war potential. Ryuken and knowing secrets of Quincy (like the silver) could be another war potential. Mayuri doing Mayuri things. Shunsui because of his battle strategies. Maybe an unknown super powerful hollow somewhere in hueco mundo. Wish I could say Grimmjow, but he didn’t show anything too impressive with his return other than an awesome outfit. But hopefully they make Grimmjow way stronger in the anime and give him a segunda etapa.

I think Tsukishima, Orihime, and Ginjo would also be solid choices. The first two because their Fullbrings can direct counter The Almighty to some degree and Ginjo because we learn that he's similar to Ichigo in CFYOW and would have been a SK candidate. Though I agree that Mayuri in particular proved that he should have been on the list and I really would have liked the idea of the Visored and Grimmjow getting recognition like that too.

6) Yamamoto, reason: Zanpakuto 7) Mayuri, reason: Technological Prowess 8) Ukitake, reason: Right Hand of the Soul King (the kamikake may be revealed earlier in the anime?) 9) This spot can go to Shunsui for his tactical genius, or to Gin if he was still alive imo, for his prodigal nature (can make the same claim about Toshiro though).

There should have been 7 special war powers with mayuri and tsukishima as the extra ones.

Lol I read the title and said out loud *"Mayuri, next"* 😂

I like how it's never outrighted stated but heavily implied that Yamamoto technically had a false bankai in his prime, but unliked his true bankai in his later years. He might not have been as cruel as he was in his youth, but he was certainly stronger in his later years (before losing his arm).