I’m reminded of a hymn of my childhood, “Jesus paid it all, all to him I owe. For sin had left a crimson stain he washed it white as snow.” Thank you Jesus.
The Bible is the final authority, not a hymn!!!!! Colossians 2:4, 8 And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
What about Jesus prayer? John 17:9-10 9 I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours. 10 All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them.
”But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.“ Romans 5:8 NKJV Romans 5:10 ”For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.“
He didn't die for all because we've been predestined we don't have a choice to reject or accept God. Think about it. Can you go against God's will or his decree? And he doesn't arbitrarily force you. What he does is effectually call you because you're in a dead State. He changes your heart and changes your disposition. He changes your will when he changes you then you can exercise your new will to accept him
Because He is God, He knows the future. But that doesn't mean that He decides who will be saved or who will be condemned. That is a responsibility of each human being. Believe in Christ, and there is forgiveness and eternal life. Refuse God's offer of salvation through Christ, and therefore, condemnation is the only other option.
@@graceisaweapon yup he wants everyone to be saved, but he's not dumb: he knows most people are born in vain and hate him. Even most Christians won't get into heaven. Yeah, many are called, but only a few are chosen 💯
@@graceisaweapon He is also a God Justice 10The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?” 11He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 13This is why I speak to them in parables: “Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. 14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: “ ‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. 15 For this people’s heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might See with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.’ You have a few here Jesus did not want to repent, that eliminates the all men theory. Regardless of the context, here are few more people the gospel is hidden from - At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes
Scripture says WHOSOEVER believes,meaning all that believes in him 👉🏿👉🏿Gods will is that none should perish that all men everywhere is called to repent
@Scribeintheink I definitely believe in predestination👉🏿👉🏿👉🏿2 Timothy 1:9 - "Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began."
Matthew 13:10-12 King James Version (NIV) 10The disciples came to him and asked, “Why do you speak to the people in parables?” 11He replied, “Because the knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them. 12Whoever has will be given more, and they will have an abundance. Whoever does not have, even what they have will be taken from them. 13This is why I speak to them in parables: “Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. 14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: “ ‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. 15 For this people’s heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might See with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.’ You have a few here Jesus did not want to repent, that eliminates the all men theory. Regardless of the context, here are few more people the gospel is hidden from - At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes
Jesus died to offer atonement to everyone, whether they accept the gospel to believe, as a free gift is on each individual. Romans 5:18 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
You snuck a nice little caveat in there "whether they accept the gospel", that is an unargued philosophical bias (or presupposition) that should be weighed against Scripture alone. I would challenge you to read Scripture, minus the presupposition of autonomous free will, and go where the texts leads. I would be willing to be a dollar to a Donut that it would err more toward Calvinism than provisionism/universalism/open theism.
Thank you my brother for this video. I love the story illustration you gave about the restaurant. The only issue in this story that may have gotten the boy in trouble is that he din't know that the payment was made. If the waitress had told them about the payment, he would have opportunity to accept or refuse to believe that the payment was made. This is the role of the gospel to proclaim the good news of God's payment.
L - limited atonement. Also called a "particular redemption." Christ took the judgment for the sin of the elect upon Himself and thereby paid for their lives with His death. In other words, He did not simply make salvation "possible," He actually obtained it for those whom He had chosen (Matthew 1:21; John 10:11; 17:9; Acts 20:28; Romans 8:32; Ephesians 5:25).
Been a believer for around 15 years and i recently found out about Calvinist teaching. It made me look at that verse ' whosever believes' a while lot different. Since going down this theology rabbit hole its caused me a lot of trouble in my thinking about predestination and God 'making' some for heaven and some for hell. It messed me up for a while recently. Ideas or how we understand them have severe consequences.
Not only to redeem mankind but if you read the scriptures carefully he died to redeem all of creation. To restore creation back to it's original state of no decay. No entropy and no death.
@@user-pd7vq7wt9q Those that realize that accept Him for who He is. It's open to everyone, but there are those that believe they can enter Heaven on their own terms. It's not going to work.
Jesus dies for SINNERS to be saved. We know that all won't be saved because not all will believe. That's why some passages say "many" instead of "all". Titus 2:11 makes it clear "11For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people," Only those who believe have their sins atoned for.
@@kgar5String salvation is for whosoever BELIEVES (John 3:16, John 6:39-40, Ephesians 1:13-14, Ephesians 2:8-9 ^^^ Titus 3:5 says he saved us, not because of works done by us in righteousness, but because of his mercy....)
Jesus died for “whosoever believes…” John 3:16-21 16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. 19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.” Amen!
You need to understand how much sin corrupts us and how much we need God’s grace. Jesus said earlier that being born of the Spirit is like the wind. Do you control the wind? Vv20-21 tells you that the people who come to the light were carried out in God. Romans 3 tells us everyone is evil. This is consistent with Romans 8 which lays out the dichotomy of being in the flesh or the Spirit. It says that the flesh is hostile to God. If you’re able to please God by being in the Spirit and not the flesh then theologically you can boast, but its God’s grace alone which enables you to walk in the Spirit.
I just found your channel, which I’m thankful for, this is the first “new” video I’ll be watching from you. I’ve watched a couple of other pretty lengthy ones, and have enjoyed them. I wanted to ask you a question. Have you gotten the revelation yet that Don is “that dude” aka the little horn? Hopefully you understand my question.
But not everyone is believing but only for those who have been regenerated by God. For whom He foreknew and predestined before the foundation of the world.
Jesus is the propitiation, the atonement, not for the sins of those who are saved, but for the sins of the whole world, as stated in 1 John 2:2. The benefit of which is by faith in Christ Jesus.
The passage may just be referring to salvation being made available to gentiles as well as Jews. That the ‘us’ is referring to the Jewish people, and the ‘world’ referring to the non-Jews/ gentile believers.
There is not a gospel for the Jews and a different one for the gentiles, when Jesus was addressing how he got his sheep (from God) he said other sheep I have that are not of this fold them I must bring in also, the gentiles are the sheep not of this fold (Israel).
Not looking for a discussion on the topic here, but I would simply point out that when you make a video like this, it would be nice to actually bring up arguments from the other side and explain why you believe it is false. For example, assuming that "us" must mean believers and therefore conclude that the phase "also for the whole world" cannot mean the whole body of believers, is not nuanced. If most calvinists argue that this is about jews and gentiles, that would be a good point to bring up and give reasons for or against. God bless you brother, enjoying the channel since I found it a few weeks or so back!
Regarding 1 Timothy 4:10, I think the question that has to be asked is, in what sense is the living God the Savior of all men? It obviously cannot be in the sense of eternal salvation of the soul or all men would be saved and Paul would be teaching universalism. The cross or payment isn’t mentioned anywhere in this text. It seems clear that this salvation is in the general sense that can actually be applied to all men. If the living God provides this common grace of defending, protecting, and preserving to all men, how much more will He apply it to those who believe. It’s an argument from lesser to greater. This understanding can let the text say what it says and actually have the living God be the Savior of all men without universalism.
I'm not trying to use false dichotomy but if I am using a fallacious argument then please let me know and please explain to me where I’m wrong. If Christ died for everyone, but not everyone ends up being saved then His atonement was only made available to anyone who would accept His offer of salvation. That doesn't sound anything close to Yom Kippur or the Day of Atonement. The Day of Atonement was a foreshadowing of Christ’s instantaneous atonement, imputation, and justification for God’s chosen people. It was done year after year for the nation of Israel; not for the Canaanites, Egyptians, etc. If salvation was only made available, then you end up with open theism and you would not have a coherent explanation for predestination and election. Limited Atonement is biblical otherwise I'm misunderstood John 6:44 and God didn't really choose His elect from before the foundation of the world. I believe in compatibilism (ie God’s sovereignty and man’s responsibility may seem incompatible but they are compatible because they’re both in the Bible). I believe in Double Predestination but not in fatalism or Equal Ultimacy. God is the Potter and He is sovereign over His clay for His good and perfect will.
He came to save sinners- that should help us discern considering who sin- in other words who hasn’t sinned? The difference is who remains in it and doesn’t trust in Jesus and Him who sent Him.
Its written God can make vessels for Honorable use an for dishonarble use an in both cases he gets glory. In the same way how the potter can make a vase to hold amazing flowers an another vase for trash. The potter has the right over his clay.@@jacquesw8725
@@jacquesw8725 Just like the scripture says, everyone goes to hell because of their own sin, if you sin you deserve to be there, that being stated, God can intervene on the behalf of some and not others and still be righteous because we sinned and deserve hell, who he has mercy on he has mercy on. “Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use? What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath-prepared for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory?” (Romans 9:21-23). The vessels of wrath are contrasted with the vessels of mercy; one set is slated for destruction, and the other for glory. God is the Potter.
@kgar5String Correct the "chosen are few." I contend that the "chosen" represents a special category, but it doesn't include all who are saved. Jesus "chose" 12 Apostles during his ministry which are given special distinction (Rev 21:14, 19-20) but there were more than just them (ex. Paul & Matthias). It doesn't seem like the thief on the cross was "chosen" but he was saved! 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@CCD_106 The chosen was by God not Jesus, Jesus said no one can come to him unless the father sends them, God chooses the sheep for Jesus. Jesus chose his disciples.
Despite the heresy and evil of the me to calvinist movement lol. John 3:16 is clear he died for the WHOLE WORLD WHICH HE LOVES which is God. But not all will accept. One can pick and choose. Let these fools teach that they'll pay when they meet him face to face. Truly. We need to focus on the dangers to our children in these college campuses and share Jesus there. Let God work. And prove them wrong. Truth is like a lion set it loose and it will defend itself.
If a heresy is a teaching that corrupts the gospel in a way that prevents salvation, then Calvinism is not heretical. They take some things too far, but it doesn’t corrupt the gospel. The same cannot be said for Arminianism. Arminianism contains the gospel, but adds to it. It reduces redemption by Christ’s sacrifice to a mere opportunity. One must earn the right to fulfill that opportunity. Depending on whom you ask, the merit may comprise perseverance, doing good works, or refraining from bad works. Arminian justification is like a chain with two links. The first link is God’s redemption, which is unbreakable. The second link is human merit, which is already broken. So, Calvinism isn’t a heresy, but Arminianism is. I hope you’re somewhere in between like I am.
@@ricksonora6656 Jesus/Yeshua did not change the importance of keeping all of the Commandments. The two Commandments of Yeshua, loving God/Yahweh and loving your neighbor, are a summation of the Law and Torah. In fact, Yeshua says, “On these two Commandments hang/ depend all the Law and the Prophets/Torah” (Matthew 22:40). "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. So then, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 5:18). “Do we then make void the law through faith? God/Yahweh forbid: yea, we establish the Law" (Romans 3:31) . "He who possesses My Commands and keeps them, is he who love Me" (John 14:21). "Do we then make void the law through faith? God/Yahweh forbid: yea, we establish the Law" (Romans 3:31). "His commandments are not grievous/burdensome" (1 John 5:3). “By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God/Yahweh has truly been perfected.” (I John 2:3-5) “Everyone who practices sin practices lawlessness as well. Indeed, sin is lawlessness” (1 John 3:4). “If you love Me, you will keep My Commandments (John 14:15). “But prove yourselves doers of the Word/Torah, and not merely hearers who delude themselves” (James 1:22). Sounds like you are following doctrines of man vs Messiah.
Look up why he spoke in parables, the disciples asked him why; he also hid the gospel from the wise and the prudent, are they part of world? Sounds like you will win a lot of souls calling people fools, "from the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks".
If Jesus died for all world and all the sins what is the point of condemnation if not believing in Christ is also forgotten. The lord died for his sheeps .
The atonement is for the entire world. However, whosoever rejects this payment and attempts to pay their way to God by keeping the entire law, or via presenting a morality of their own fashion to Him for assessment, condemns themselves. In this sense, Christ did not die for them.
No one is beyond redemption! John3:16; Ephesians 2:1-9 King James Version 2 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;) 6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Jesus didn't die for the unbelievers. John 3:16 "For God so loved the world,that He gave His only begotten Son,that whosoever BELIEVETH in Him should not perish...."
Jesus said he came to seek and to save those that are lost, it seems pretty simple to me, he died for the whole world, that whosoever will come. The bible says God is not the author of confusion. When it starts to be confusing stop and pray that God will give you understanding
Stop using the scripture out of context, every time you are confused you bring that scripture up which does not apply every time you don't understand. Jesus spoke in parables, the disciples asked he why, he said because it is not for them to know, he followed that up with, if I speak plainly they would repent. Is he the author of confusion because here is a set of people he did not want to repent. Jesus said it is hidden from the wise and the prudent. What is hidden, the gospel. Confused yet? You are until you get the understanding. By they way, were the people he hid it from lost?
Corey, this question is off topic but I need to know your position on how Old Testament Jews where saved? Were they saved by the sacrificial system or having faith in Christ?
He sure did. You can debate all you want about semantics and God knowing who would chose Him ( of course He knows... He is omniscient ) but it does not change our freedom to choose or not choose. So of course He died for all of us. We cannot know another human's heart so we do not know if they believe or don't believe and repent before death. That is for God to know and we'll just all have to find out when it's time. I guarantee you there will be those that think they will be saved that will not be and those that no one would think could possibly be saved that will be. Stay humble folks.
Jesus died for everyone not just the elect. The elect are God’s chosen for specific purposes. Descendants of Abraham are elect for the purpose of bringing Christ in human flesh. That the reason 1John 2:2 makes the distinction. No one is elect for Salvation. Judas was chosen Pharaoh was chosen. People have to hear the message of the good news and believe and trust and obey. That is faith
Leighton made it up, added to the script and left some out. When one examines what the Bible teaches about election and predestination, it becomes clear that the doctrine of unconditional election does accurately represent what the Bible teaches on this important subject. While this-or any of the other Doctrines of Grace-can stand on their own merit, their importance becomes even clearer when they are considered together systematically with all the Bible teaches about salvation. They essentially serve as building blocks, with each one furnishing a necessary part of a biblical understanding of salvation. Total depravity defines man’s need for salvation and reveals his hopelessness when left to his own resources. It leaves man with the question “Who can be saved?” The answer lies in an understanding of unconditional election-God’s sovereign choice to save people despite their depravity and based solely on His redeeming for Himself people from every tribe, tongue and nation. This He accomplishes by predestinating them “to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will” (Ephesians 1:5). A proper understanding of this doctrine should not result in questioning the justice of God, but instead in marveling at His great mercy. The question we really should ask is not why God chooses only some to salvation, but why He would choose any at all.
What about Jesus prayer? John 17:9-10 9 I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours. 10 All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them.
Salvation Was to the Jews first; you cannot just snatch one scripture all scripture works together; Why would Jesus give the great commission he told his Disciples to Go out into the world to. Preach the gospel ; the good news) which is salvation ~~ Mark 16:15-16 New King James Version 15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He who believes and is baptized will be saved; but he who does not believe will be condemned. Romans 1:16-17 King James Version 16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. 17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
@@rsar61 simply because we don’t know who is the elect… John 3:8 English Standard Version 2016 (ESV) The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.” We share the gospel because we love the Lord … John 14:15-31 GNT “If you love me, you will obey my commandments. I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, who will stay with you forever. He is the Spirit, who reveals the truth about God. The world cannot receive him, because it cannot see him or know him.
@@rsar61 99% of the bible is to the Jews which part is for the gentiles? Other sheep I have that are not of this fold them I must bring in also. There is not two gospels one for Israel and one for the gentiles, they must get to God the same way we do. Anything pertaining to salvation is for both Jew and Gentile so you can grab the scripture.
“Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use? What if God, although choosing to show his wrath and make his power known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath-prepared for destruction? What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory?” (Romans 9:21-23). The vessels of wrath are contrasted with the vessels of mercy; one set is slated for destruction, and the other for glory. Who is the Potter?
Here, let's solve this dilemma about those who have never heard. Romans 2:12 (KJV) For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; Therefore, God is just and no respecter of person's and all will be judged accirding to the truth Romans 2:2
“Especially for” denotes a different application does it not? The whole world benefits in the present age. Believers benefit for eternity. Think through, brother.
If salvation was only made available (ie Prescient view of soteriology), then the reason why a saint is in heaven is because he made the choice to accept God’s offer while the one damned in hell didn't choose to accept God’s offer. I may be wrong but it sounds like the saint had something to boast because he made the right choice while the other one didn’t. Additionally, that contradicts John 6:44 where it says ”No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day.“ NASB. In the Prescient view, the difference between the saint in heaven and the damned in hell is the saint did something to make salvation efficacious but the damned didn’t do it. If that is correct, then there are billions if not trillions of people in hell that Jesus Christ shed His blood for but didn’t get saved. Jesus was clear in John 17:12 in His High Priestly prayer that He didn’t come to die for Judas, “the son of perdition”. He only came to save whom the Father gave Him (”I ask on their behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the world, but of those whom You have given Me; for they are Yours;“ John 17:9 NASB1995).
@@user-kf7tt2vk6t it's a good take though...because the person was smart enough to choose Christ...he or she gets some glory in the matter...theoretically
@@user-kf7tt2vk6t why do you say so? If we have made the choice like some teaches, then I can confidently say, I made the right choice. Jesus paid the price, and I couldn't do it without him, but eventually I chose him
Didn't he say if I am lifted up I will draw all men unto me? So his atonement was not wasted and yes it is limited because we know not everybody's going to be born again or saved
Who Jesus drew and who God draws are not the same - Jesus said No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. "No man" by definition excludes.
He gave up his life to pay for all our sins not only the Jews but all the gentiles all those who accept him as their savior. All those who do not will perish because Jehovah will judge all according to how you chose to use the option of free will.
Man, you make some interesting points. But, I believe he did only for the elect. I believe he says the whole world because we don't know who is or not elect, we're to preach to the whole world. I could be wrong like anyone one else. Thanks for what you're doing !
No. If only the elect were to be saved, he would have stated that. He would not need to know who the elect were in order to just say tjat only the elect are saved. The Bible clearly states that God desires all to turn to the truth and be saved. If he desires all to be saved, why would He then chose only certain people to be saved? He would acting against His own stated desire.
@alwaysadawg6488 Just because He desires all to be saved does not mean all will be saved...obviously that is not the case. If people had the ability to be saved without God's intervention, then why are the elect the only people who will be saved?
@@alwaysadawg6488 He did - John 6:44 - No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. The words "No man" by definition excludes.
Logically speaking, if Jesus’ death was an actual atonement and we know not everyone goes to heaven then the atonement is limited. The atonement is for everyone who believes both Jew and Greek. From our perspective we don’t know who all will ultimately believe so it seems like a potentiality that all can be saved therefore the atonement is for every single human. BUT those who the Father gives , Jesus will lose none so that makes it an actual atonement. That’s not invented by Calvinist. It was invented by God.
The people that are trying to defend Calvinist doctrine over the Truth clearly don’t understand how God chooses us. They think it’s his sovereignty that chooses but that would be missing the whole point of “how he chooses us” He chooses the ones who give a free will offering to him. What do we offer? We have to freely offer our life. We have to die with him on the cross. We have to believe what he did for us and accept it so he can work in us. We can’t accept his sacrifice if we don’t sacrifice our own life and be born again in the spirit. We who get the gift of new life died with him on the cross. We can’t do this unless we freely believe in Jesus. God explained this when he asks Israel to give a FREE WILL offering for their sins in Leviticus. Calvinism do not understand how God Chooses. Grace is a gift Faith is a gift. But how does he choose? By who is willing to believe and give up their life with him. That’s the only way the blood can clean our sins once and for all. Yes he chooses but he doesn’t choose based on nothing else but who he knows GENUINELY BELIEVES. If it’s by compulsion then it’s the opposite of GENUINE and he will be contradicting his own law. God don’t break any of his laws no matter how sovereign he is. Calvinist understand some doctrine and facts but they miss the whole point. When you know his love you know what love he expects from us. This is not a forced love or it will not be genuine. No matter how much knowledge you have if you don’t have LOVE it’s nothing. Love is a verb he is talking about not compulsion. God only accepts a FREE WILL offering for our sins. There’s no way around that period. 🙏🏽
I'm not sure you can make a statement more wrong than this - "God only accepts a FREE WILL offering for our sins" God is not accepting and offering from, he already sacrifice his son. By the way, If you have free will, why haven't you used your free will to chose never to sin again? One more thing, in Ezekiel 36:25-27 the verse Jesus was referring to when talking to Nicodemus about being born again God said he would put his spirit in you and CAUSE you to walk in his ways, he said he would never leave you and you would never leave him. Go figure he does force.
@@kgar5String He offered his son and you have to give up your life. “Then Jesus said to His disciples, “If anyone desires to come after Me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow Me. For whoever desires to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake will find it. For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?” Matthew 16:24-26 NKJV “I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.” Galatians 2:20 NKJV Don’t forget God told them to circumcise their hearts first “Therefore circumcise the foreskin of your heart, and be stiff-necked no longer.” Deuteronomy 10:16 NKJV Then He says one day He will do it for them “And the Lord your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants, to love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live.” Deuteronomy 30:6 NKJV Funny how you put Ezekiel but look right past how angry God was for them disobeying him 😆 I mean was he angry at himself 🤔 And when God repented for making us do you think he changed his mind because he made a mistake while he is the one controlling us 🤔 Man you guys just don’t use common sense sometimes and it’s ridiculous cause it’s right in your face. 🤦🏻♂️ And I will use my free will to stop sinning the moment you allow God to force you to stop sinning. Oh wait he wants you to sin right? It’s not your fault it’s his 🤦🏻♂️
@@bullybroadcast3474 You do give up your life, but not to go to heaven, Jesus did all of that. You said " Don’t forget God told them to circumcise their hearts first" - Did any of them do it? Answer no. You just contradicted yourself, that is what I have been saying all along you can't God has to do it, If sense was common you would not being arguing. Why have you sinned sense you were saved, since you had the free will to stop yet you did not. You are promising to do so just like Israel but they could not get past their will (mind) to sin. You are not better than any other man, the difference is I like David and Paul and the rest of the saints depend on God, and you say it is in your hands, who has the better shot at success you are or the people depending on God?
@@kgar5String I don’t know who you think you are talking to honestly 😆 Not sure where you come up with this idea of thinking by having guile heart that means you earned salvation lol Only you will see it that way. How does God judge you? Why can some believe and not others? Some people don’t even have the heart to even hear the word of God. There’s a reason God accepted Abel’s offering but not Cains. Does God not tell you to love your brother? Is loving your neighbor not the second command? Does God not say if you don’t love your brother you can’t love God? Are you forced to love your brother? Do you need to know God to have a sacrificial heart? Even evil people give gifts to their children. Why did Jesus choose some and not others as disciples? Did he not know their heart? Was that before or after he circumcised their hearts? Regeneration doesn’t come before being born again. Jesus died for us all while we were still sinners. Why do you need to repent? Grace is given to all men. Faith is given by measures to all men. How does God increase your faith? Salvation is all God. You don’t need a perfect heart but you do need to submit and love some people don’t. Read your Bible man God tells you how he judges men it’s everywhere. You know what’s not everywhere. The fact you think some people are just made to go to hell and others not. Most ridiculous heresy I ever heard. Non biblical at all. But carry on.
@@bullybroadcast3474 Are you saying that when "Jesus said it was not for them to know, if I speak plainly they would repent" is not in the bible? What is the context? Are you saying this is not bible either? 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Are you saying Jesus was wrong when he said 4 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. Using the words "no man" alone eliminates the possibility that it could be all men. Is this not scripture? what is the context? No matter context, it is not all men. The statements you made were just your words without scripture backing, the author of the faith said to be saved you must be born from above, where above means by God, and referenced Ezekiel 36:25-27 and Jeremiah 31:31
If people go to hell you believe in limited atonement or definite atonement. Its like if you get tased you WILL shake or feel the affects of the taser. Colossians 2:13-15 Because Christ atoned for sins 2000 years ago you will be saved by the work of God or not and I know no one is a universalist in the chat. Love you Cory! just a friendly disagreement
I don’t know how scripture can be any clearer that salvation is of the Lord. No one “cannot” choose to be saved . Even the “faith” to believe unto salvation, it is a gift from God. Then , where is boasting? NONE. Why fight against the “Glory of God” However, in the midst of God’s sovereignty, He commands us to believe. Christians lives their whole lives between these two tensions…… why fight against the Glory of God?
@@user-kf7tt2vk6t According to the scriptures, God commands every man every where to repent. He is not asking anyone, He commands it, period. Salvation is of the Lord, by grace through faith, period.
@@user-kf7tt2vk6t Salvation is by *grace* however Condemnation is by *works* My friend, by nature we are all “children of wrath”, shapen in iniquity and in sin - we all were conceive according to the scriptures. No one is born innocent, no, not one. Meaning by nature, we are all “ spiritually dead “ yet physically living until God, yes, God alone changes the disposition of our heart and *resurrect* life within us. Then and only then, will one desire Christ. However, like I stated before in light of that, God commands man every where to repent and believe. That’s the tension all believing Christians lives between: God’s sovereignty and Man”s Responsibility.
@user-kf7tt2vk6t that's not even relevant in this case...the point trying to be made is that God knows who the elect are, and He chooses them before the foundation of the world.
The analogy of the restaurant situation is not quite right. Let me explain.... The guys that had no money (at least one) decided to run while the guy who saw the situation paid for their food ( that's payment number one on the meal) but by running, him incriminated himself and the police took him and charged him ( second payment for the fault) this making a double payment for the same fault.... That's not how it works my friend... Either God pays ( by the sacrifice of Jesus effectively) or we pay (by our eternal death) but both cannot be simultaneously truthful at the same time
AMAZING! I don’t know a lick of Greek and I understood the same thing when I read my King James Bible. AMAZING! Unfortunately you are taught doctrines of devils. Yes Calvinist teach doctrines of devils.
Good thing we get what we believe from the inspired scripture instead of Calvin; even though Calvin said some of the same things. You might want to search the scriptures for in them you think you have eternal life, these are they that testify of me, who said that?
l agree with you that Jesus' death was for all men, but only those who are chosen will believe and be saved. Because only those who place their faith in Christ's death and resurrection will be saved.
If you believe that only the chosen will be saved, then you must believe that the angels that announced Jesus' birth were speaking in half-truth After all, they stated that the birth of the Savior was good news for "all men". If only a few are chosen to be saved, how can this be good news for all?
@alwaysadawg6488 are you a universalist? If He died for all men (the sins of all the world), and if His blood is sufficient to save to the uttermost, then all men must be saved. There is no way around that if you don't believe in a particular or specific atonement.
@@alwaysadawg6488 It is good news for all men because the way of salvation is open and available to "all" men but is only affectation for the elect because only the elect will choose to believe because the Holy Spirit will change their hearts so they can and will want to believe. Those who are not chosen could believe, theoretically, but without the work of the Holy Spirit changing their hearts they won't believe because they do not want to believe.
Have you ever just stopped and thought that God is the only one that is predestined to know, that before the world was created, He knew before mankind was created who would believe in His son? It's the false teachings of Calvinism that God chose this many humans to be saved (few), and the rest of the humans He willed to burn in hell/lake of fire forever! This is FALSE! It's everyone's free will to either believe or not!
@@kgar5String He opposes the proud and gives grace to the humble. The 'wise and prudent' are wise in this world and prudent to the things of this world. Wise and prudent are not intrinsically bad.
I wonder why there's no gate of the elect before the foundation of the world from every nation, tongue, and status in the new Jerusalem? There's 12 gates with the names of the children of Israel on them and 12 foundations with the names of the 12 apostles on them. The bible is vivid on who the elect are, and the rest of the nations are grafted in by faith according to the promise made to Abraham to bless all nations. Jesus shed his blood to atone to reconcile all things, not just mankind. I'm waiting to see how many teachers are willing to bring the people back to the gospel of the kingdom. Our western view doesn't fit an eastern bible, that's why we're so confused.
The Messiah's covenant or agreement was with his apostles and other followers so that only he would be killed for claiming to be the lawful King of Israel by bloodline iaw the Davidic covenant. He did not die for the world. No one can die for the sins of another according to Deuteronomy 24:16. The new Covenant takes place in the Wilderness of Nations when God brings back into the bond of the Covenant iaw Ezekiel 20:35-38. Even Paul does not tell us to reject the law of Moses but this is exactly what ministers do today. The meaning if the Messiah's name means that God is our salvation not the Messiah but God, the Ancient of Days. When people say Jesus is savior what they are actually saying is that God is our salvation is our salvation.
Let me make it short for you.. He died for the believers only, otherwise he would have save the whole world... if he died for the whole world, none will be in hell
If Jesus Christ had the sins of the entire world placed upon himself and he paid the price for the sins of the entire world then why would anyone still have to pay for their own sins by going to hell?
