Zay speaking facts about the artists’ projects. Chance’s was still a mixtape or his “first”. Like how you count rodeo but don’t count Q’s and Dot’s? Didn’t make sense.
honestly why are they counting Schoolboy's Setbacks as first project?? Habits & Contradictions would make sense cause how big of a single Hands on the Wheel felt like. but I guess it's cause they countin' when Kendrick signed to Aftermath, but Q has only ever been signed to TDE. and cause of Kendrick TDE became a major label by the time he created Oxymoron
It’s crazy because back in the day everyone loved Big Boi and Andre was weird and folks didn’t always love his verses. Now Andre can do no wrong and Big Boi is forgotten smh. Btw they’re both🔥🔥🔥
@@burger7013 flow is like big boi’s best element, he’s like top 5 in that category probably. coming from someone who thinks 3 stacks is the best rapper alive
Even though Graduation is my favorite Kanye album, well one of my favorite albums I can see why Astroworld would go over it. If you think about it Astroworld is Graduation in this generation. Sonically Astroworld is amazing. I wouldn’t pick it over Graduation. So I get it.
@@joeanderson1307 I mean in terms of the production, focus, lyrics, rapping, dynamic of tracks. I'm pretty positive Isaiah is just saying which of the two albums he sees that he likes more. If we talk influence, obviously DS2 is more influential because Astroworld hasn't had time to really even have a discussion there.
What up tho. This was a great topic, just could've been researched more and better executed. Oxymoron being Q's first album makes it even more of a classic going against all these other 2nd, 3rd, or 4th or 5th albums.
honestly why are they counting Schoolboy's Setbacks as first project?? Habits & Contradictions would make sense cause how big of a single Hands on the Wheel felt like. but I guess it's cause they countin' when Kendrick signed to Aftermath, but Q has only ever been signed to TDE. and cause of Kendrick TDE became a major label by the time he created Oxymoron
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Zay is so chill man ! Love the fact that Aquemini stayed all through, one of my top favorite albums of all time ! Been rocking with Zay since Welcome To The Game and seeing him getting his flowers more now is amazing THIB is alum of the year to me ! Amazing episode 🔥
Graduation loses to barely any project, not to Astroworld of all projects. Astroworld I personally believe is Travis Scott's best work (My favourite Is BITTSBM) but Graduation was monumental.
That was definitely Q's first real album. Setbacks and Habits & Contradictions are like mixtapes. With yall logic GKMC is Kendricks third album. Ya'll wild.
@@thee_lawd sicko mode just got hype😂 production wise its a 8/10 but cant tell me nothing flawless 10/10 deff beats sicko mode not washes it but beats it
But it wasn’t on a major label it was on an independent label. They’re going off major label albums. If not then Eminem’s Infinite was his first album even though it was on an independent label
For Isaiah to say The recession by jeezy didn’t age well means he didn’t listen to it . That album is a classic and I’m from the Bay Area . That album was amazing especially in that time
props to Isaiah Rashad for saying Yeezus is Kanye best. I think that his creative peak. Kinda cringe people in 2021 don't catch up to that album because it aged to well.
I did the bracket and DS2 won mine over Young Jeezy. Think the brackets should be set up differently too - entire left-hand side was basically oldheads. Have the oldheads go up against the newer generation in the first round, not make a whole side of the bracket for oldheads cause that will lead to finals where people like either new music or old music and vote based on that.
@@barrekelly ds2 is great I'm the same age I love ds2 but it ain't fuckin with those other albums at all ds2 is great for what it is but the only song with any substance is kno the meaning which is probably my favorite off the album
@@jordanflores5687 I respect it. And as much as I love substance I don’t to much go to future for that. I kinda take him for what he is. He can’t do what they can do & they can’t do what he can🤷🏽♂️
@@barrekelly fair enough argument and yea I dont go to future for substance either but I'm not too close minded of an old head I can dig it for what it is but for me lyricism and substance go a lot further in these kinda debates just me personally
2Pac - Me Against The World Jay Z - Vol 2. Hard Knock Life OutKast- Aquemini Kanye West - Graduation Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp A Butterfly (Section 80. Was his first album) A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Muraders Ice Cube - The Predator Young Jeezy - The Recession T.I - Urban Legend
Marshall Mathers was Em’s 3rd and Kendrick’s 1 was GKMC? Was Section.80 a mixtape? Wtf? Midnight Marauders destroy most the albums on these brackets - why they got it against Aquemini? Yeezus? Interesting 🤔 This was entertaining anyway - even if Complex was out of pocket with a lot of these brackets.
Oxymoron was a great album but in no world should it beat Forest Hills Drive. And by these measures Damn should've been counted and beat most of this shit
My bracket ended w Aquemini vs NWTS & Drake taking it. They should've mixed it up better honestly cuz NWTS vs Graduation was basically the Finals in the first round
In this case its definitely ''Come home with me' that's the better body of work, but Jay got other projects that's better than this Cam album it's just not Vol.2. those 98 tracks didn't age as well in actuality 😂
@alexander harvey respect your opinion but I’ve noticed that narrative has formed over the last two or so years .. DAMN. was pretty much universally loved when it dropped
