Fun fact: The reason Sonic appears so late in Subspace is because Saukurai asked SEGA if he could be in the game, which their initial response was no. At the end of development, SEGA changed their mind to have him in the game, so they had to rush him into the subspace story.
Then I’ll admit, they really made a close call. But I’m still bummed out on his move sets because I can excuse Brawl for being rushed but the later games, he just keeps them with only a few minor changes.
Don't forget the fact that in the trailer for Steve, Sonic punches Mario so hard he sends him to Minecraft. This mf punched him so hard he traveled to a completely different game.
@@CuteRedPanda64 𝗍𝖺𝗄𝖾 𝖺 𝗅𝗈𝗈𝗄 𝖺𝗍 𝗁𝗂𝗌 forwards smash and turn out he can punch a mfer to Minecraft, Metroid, Mario, legend of Zelda, dbzx2, all smash games, then back to ultimate.
Sonic: what did you do today? Kirby: killed a God he stole my cake Sonic: same this time eater thing threw my hotdog in the air so I killed him Kirby: oh yea say didn't you kill like a sun-time god? Sonic: I did? Kirby: Oh hey sephiroth Sephiroth: You guys started the party without me? Kirby: Oh uhhh... Paluntena: You guys hosted a God party without an actual God? Sonic: Well... You see... Ganondorf: Man hosted a party and forgot to invite Steve, bruh😂
But cloud killed him, and sonic dont knows cloud attacks. Witch means cloud can kill sonic, then kazuya kills cloud. But sora appears and kill every DLC characters. Then sonic also dont knows sora attacks, and nobody do. Sora is the strongest.
I don’t care if I get hate Kirby stomach is not an infinite dimension if you played the games you know that he has struggled to swallow peoples are bigger than them, and people are faster than him pause and Kirby does not even have enough feats to catch sonic, sonic is so fast he can dodge rain sonic so fast he can rewind time. Sonic is so fast he put his own world back together with his speed sonic is so fast he’s out running black holes and sonic colors and sonic Shuffle And we’re talking about base sonic and base Kirby sonic solos
Remember guys, Galeem only got Sonic because my boy tried to save Pikachu! Had he not been in character to himself from the games, he'd likely have been teaming with Kirby
@@CuteRedPanda64yea he TWO- SHOTTED HIM ALMOST AS BAD AS A ONE SHOT AFTER YOU TAKE DOWN A WHOLE ROSTER OF CHARCTERS THEN ONE MF JUST PULLS AND AND KILLS YOU thats pretty disrespectful
@@MyGoat4207 Tabuu wasn't defeated. He was just slightly damaged. If anything, Sephiroth or Kirby are the strongest. Sephiroth one-shot Galeem and was able to take out characters like Bayonetta. He might be the strongest
@MyGoat4207 I've played Smash Bros. Brawl a million times. Tabuu wasn't fully defeated. If Sonic fully defeated Tabuu, then yeah, he might be the strongest.
When Sonic entered the scene with the finger wag taunt... I about lost my shit, ngl. He was such a badass with his entrance into Super Smash Bros Brawl.
@@gsm4919he canonically cannot swim actually His fear of water ain't confirmed, but it was confirmed that Sonic is unable to swim without support due to the original director of the game believing that Hedgehogs could not swim We've never seen Sonic swim, and in every Sonic media he just sinks, or comments that he can't swim, or is scared since he can't swim (even in the Mario and Sonic Olympics, Sonic wears floaties during the swimming event and still struggles to swim)
I mean, sonic and Kirby fight literal gods every weekend. And it’s confirmed that if sonic didn’t try to help pikachu he could’ve survived world of light
Tabuu couldn't hit sonic bc Tabuu didn't even know he existed. And I think he saw it the first time Tabuu hit all the characters with the first wave, so he knew that he needed to Suprise attack Tabuu. I think the characters knew that they needed to doge the attack the second time.
@@boredeverysecond he is not he can barely speak and write (Kirby forgotten land mailman waddle Dee's description says that Kirby only makes scribbles) according to the lore from Kirby right back at ya (the most/only lore we really get.) Meta Knight explains Kirby awoke too soon from his 'incubation'/cryosleep Kirby is only 200 years old which is a baby according to Meta Knight for Kirby's 'species' and he only can say simple names mostly like his own or like Tiff or Tuff (characters from the show). He was only on planet popstar for around a year or 2 in that show. Infact there an episode about the anniversary of when Kirby arrived and a episode about new years Eve.
@@segatv2426 Bro didn’t have to go ham on him with the Kirby facts but I’m pretty sure right back at ya isn’t considered canon. Also Kirby isn’t necessarily a baby. He’s an alien and just because he can’t talk or writes in scribbles doesn’t make him a baby either, that’s just speculation. With how much Kirby can comprehend when people talk to him and that he can process information, that leads me to believe he isn’t a baby.
@@Jafar0YT Joker is outerversal in the metaverse, anywhere else and the dude is a fuckin highschool kid who's talented, If we wanna go for smash lore stuff, he's stuck with only Arsene, which is one of his weakest persona's
When I first did that fight as a kid all my characters died, but as soon as I spawned in as Sonic for my LAST character. I dodged EVERY attack and defeated him with ease without taking any percent of damage. Even I was shocked I did that 🤯. But man it was the coolest thing ever
Miis are so fast, that when they were bowling in 2007 november 21st, they made my lil brother throw a wii controller at light speed... killing our tv...
More in depth explination: Sonic has accomplished feats of reaching light speed minimum in thanks to the light speed dash. IN HIS BASE FORM! Sonic in the smash universe has been shown to be in possession of the Chaos Emeralds which he probably could've used to fly away from galeem's blast as super sonic as being at least light speed in base form would make him fast enough in super form to get out of the smash universe using just his speed therefore escaping. The only reason he didn't was because he was so selfless he decided to try to help Pikachu. He could've also gone to little planet and time traveled to after Galeem's blast as in the smash verse Sonic's world is guaranteed present as in the level select screen in Subspace Emmisary shows Angel Island. Which while Little Planet appears only for 1 month of the year, Sonic could just use his super form anyway. Sonic is also able to react to and dodge lasers as shown in several boss fights such as the Oil Ocean zone boss fight and that was classic Sonic who is a weaker version of Sonic from the past. (I know Forces retconned this but Generations is the superior game so L to forces)
And Galeem was making everyone (including Sonic) struggle, meanwhile Sephiroth just comes in, slices him clean in half with no effort and refuses to elaborate.
I don't think sonic struggled, It was in his nature to save small animals like Pikachu, If he grabbed Pikachu successfully I bet he would have survived
you do know solaris is more powerful than galeem and sephiroth both, and hate universes and timelines for lunch , right? sonic is in fact stronger than all 3 of them in super form.
There is no most important stat. Sonic would beat Mario 80 times over before the fight even began, yes. On the other hand, try as he might, he’ll never win against Bowser. The Koopa King is just way too durable for Sonic to any meaningful damage, even if we give him a full year of free hits. And Bowser isn’t unbeatable either, since we all know how poorly he performs against Mario, who is strong enough in base form to deal more damage than getting launched through one star, into a second, which then went supernova and sucked the turtle into a black hole (heck, Mario is the one who launched him). On top of that, immunities have to be factored in, too. None of these individuals could deal any damage to Ganon, since he’s immune to all but the holiest of holy power. Chaos can’t touch him, he has Bowser’s weakness (magic fire turns him into Dry Bowser, who can’t even handle a big fall), and Mario/Bowser’s nature as star children isn’t enough holy power to make him feel more than a tap.
@@jasonbell8515 Sonic is most definitely powerful enough to beat Bowser. Perfect Chaos was powered by the seven Chaos Emeralds and required Super Sonic to beat back in Adventure 1. However, in Generations, Sonic was able to beat Perfect Chaos in his base form. Sonic's Boost and Homing Attacks are enough to tear through hordes of robots with little resistance, and he has a variety of combat abilities from Frontiers he can use. Even the classic games have pretty good feats. In Sonic CD, Sonic could travel through time just by running really, really fast. Another example in Generations- he was able to move freely in White Space, an area that was described by Eggman to be without time. Seeing that speed is calculated by distance over time, this makes Sonic's speed immeasurable if he can move in a space that lacks time. And by running through White Space, he was able to restore the locations that were put in limbo by the Time Eater. Speaking of, Sonic survived the attack from the Time Eater and was the only one to not be turned into a motionless, colorless husk, so his durability is no slouch either. None of this is even taking to account Super Sonic himself, who has triumphed over: - Perfect Chaos, who was powered by the Emeralds himself - Metal Overlord, a version of Metal Sonic powered up with the data of various other Sonic characters - Dark Gaia, an ancient primordial entity within the planet that wakes up periodically after many millennia to destroy the planet - Solaris, a transcendent, super-dimensional god who "eats dimensions for lunch" - Time Eater, a being with dominion over time and space - The Titans, gigantic mechs created by the Ancients and powered by the Chaos Emeralds to fight against The End - The End, an incarnation of death set on annihilating all life Needless to say, Super Sonic is incredibly powerful. Sonic's nigh-invulnerable state bolsters even greater speed, strength and durability than his base, alongside the reality-warping Chaos Control ability. That said, I don't think Sonic particularly needs his super form to beat Bowser. As for Ganondorf, Chaos Control could perhaps seal him away, or Super Sonic could send him flying into space where he can't come back. Alternatively, he could use the Excalibur Sonic form from Black Knight- I think the sacred sword of Arthurian legend will most definitely suffice as a holy weapon to kill Ganon. And even without any of those, I don't see it ending in anything worse than a stalemate for Sonic. Don't sleep on the ol' Blue Blur.
@@neelmodi7765 If Tabuu actually lost to Galeem that means Sephiroth would be the strongest since he one shotted him and Sonic was obliterated by Galeem
@@KennyBoy23I Did hear a theory that if sonic didn’t try and save Pikachu he could’ve also survived from the light, He’s just that pure hearted, I mean think about it, I don’t see how sonic couldn’t outspeed it.
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Super Smash Bros brawl is the only Super Smash Brothers storyline where I cried the part where Rob sacrifices himself got me in tears from originally believing him to be the main villain than learning what was truly going on then for him to sacrifice himself I broke interior
And then there's Sephiroth. But also lore accurate Sora...and lore accurate Kirby...and Shulk...and Bayonetta...but Sonic actually stacks up to all of them in his own comics/lore. He's immune to being erased from existence itself.
He just too fast but can't catch a fat man. Legit he has a lot of stamina like he can hold a fkn robot and chill all day but SEGA BES LIKE "nuh uhh. Sonic aint catching Dr. Eggman"
Kirby is, even though Sonic is faster, if Kirby had the chance he could copy Tabuu's abilities, or just eat him and boom gone. Also, just saying, it was be really cool to play as Tabuu in the game, it'd be really fire
@@theend-zm9ih If he had the powers from his games, he wouldn't be as powerful so obviously they aren't the same. And if you look at the Smash Bros. lore, there isn't any winner because everyone is just dolls being played with by some kid (Master ad Crazy hand is the kids hands) All I was saying is which character is the most powerful looking at the powers and it is unbiasedly Kirby
But here's another little thing and just hear me out smash Bros has no continuity it's just punch the man the game like if you think about it like how sephiroth was able to kill the main boss in one slash but then cloud is able to beat sephiroth but cloud couldn't even beat the main boss you see what I'm getting out here there's no continuity there was a lot more people would have survived
