So basically the gist of what happened was BBC (BlockBerry Creative, the company) kicked out the most popular member (Chuu, the singer of Heart Attack, and the one who did the high notes in PTT and Hi High) and accused her harassing and bullying staff members, which all fans and nonfans alike knew was completely bullshit since it's known across the entire kpop industry and community that she is extremely sweet, nice, supportive of everyone, and a literal ball of sunshine. They kicked her out because she was asking for her money that she hadn't ever received since debut (so over 6 years) and threatened to sue. They also kept claiming it was because of debts but Loona was extremely populer since debut and the term "stan Loona" was inescapable across the whole internet. It actually started the "stan this group/artist" things you see today + Chuu was literally constantly working nonstop for those 6 years so for her to still be in dept was an obvious sign of scamming. After they kicked her out, all of the other 11 members filed lawsuits against the company because they also had never received their paychecks, and the company decided to try to announce a comeback in the middle of this and fans started boycotting Loona to insane levels (the album only got like 12 preorders so they cancelled the comeback). After very long legal battles, the members mostly won and were able to escape from the company. All 12 members have now redebuted, although separately. 5 members went to a company called Modhous and are now ARTMS, another 5 went to another company and are now Loosemble, and Chuu and Yves became soloists under other companies. Fans are still boycotting their music and stuff because BBC is trying to debut a boy group and we are 99.9% sure they're going to do the exact same thing to those boys as they did Loona, so we're trying to make them the least amount of income as possible to make sure they don't debut. Edit: sry for adding even more to an already very long comment, but I wanted to add that the members also exposed the company for mental and physical abuse towards the members, so yeah they're horrible. Also most of Loona's production and creative team also moved to the new companies the members are now under, which solidifies how stupid BBC's claims were Edit 2: sry again, but also to explain why Heart Attack is a solo song, all of the members debuted as soloists and sub-unit groups in the 2 years before the full group debut, making them the first group to ever do so Edit 3: Last one sry again, but I wanted to really emphisize how insanely popular Loona was. Orbits (the fandom) was the only fandom able to compete with Army (BTS fandom) when it comes to fights, promotion, and popularity. Loona was actually a lot of people's first time even hearing about Kpop from 2016-2021. Celebrities, singers, actors and many others were even saying stan Loona despite probably not even knowing who they were + fun fact, member Gowon is actually the godmother of of Elon Musk's kids, after their collab with Grimes in like 2016-2017 I think
Thank you for reacting to LOONA!! Even if there are restrictions to listening to the official audio please consider continuing to reacting to them through reuploaded versions and the post-loona groups as well 🤍 I think from the loona era I would say the max & match album and xx album are great albums to introduce yourself into the group. From the post loona releases I think you should react to Lossemble’s “Lossemble” album or ARTMS DALL album.
there were some case that the company wasnt paying the members at all so they sued them and left. now the girls are either soloists or debuted in loossemble or artms. thats why their fans prefer not to stream music from loona's official spotify because the company still gets money from it.
Thanks for checking loona out! Just for future reference since orbits(loona fans) are boycotting the music if you ever want to check out more loona orbits have made google drives and reuploaded versions of the songs so the company doesn’t get any money from it. All the loona members have come out with songs since leaving there company the groups being Artms and loossemble and soloists being Chuu and Yves. Also as for albums to check out either on your own or as a video the fandom’s favourite album would probably be XX and ++ (butterfly and hi high are on these ones) my personal favourites are & and 12:00 (ptt and why not are on these) and my favourite subunit album(the subunits are 1/3, odd eye circle and yyxy) would be Beauty & the beat by yyxy
Maybe the first time I've ever seen someone discover LOONA just from the songs alone. They're widely considered the best (or Top 3 ever) performance girl groups ever. The song Butterfly is considered the greatest girl group choreo ever for it's complexity, constant formation changes, absolute synchronization, and absolute beauty and the coreo for all the songs after went just as crazy (although more powerful vs beautiful like Butterfly was). ....if you ever decide to watch their videos, like others have said, there are orbits who have re-uploaded all the videos and dance practices so that their trash company doesn't get any residuals
hey shelby!! since the boycott podcast is down, if you're planning to listen to more loona soon, i recommend starting out with the post-bbc albums like DALL, Version Up, Howl, Loossemble, One of a Kind, and LOOP
If Loona has a million number of fans I am one of them. If Loona has ten fans I am one of them. If Loona has no fans, that means I am no more on the earth. If world is against Loona, I am against the world. I love Loona (ARTMS, LOOSSEMBLE, CHUU & YVES) till my last breath
Glad people told you about the current boycott that’s been going on for so long I actually went insane. Yes heart attack was a solo. Loona had a predebut project from 2016-2018 with solo debuts and predebut subunits before their official debut with 12 members in “hi high” they did this to show the girls individual talents and build on their lore known as the “loonaverse” 2016: heejin “vivid”, hyunjin “around you”, haseul “let me in” 2017: yeojin “kiss later”, loona 1/3 (heejin, hyunjin haseul, vivi) “love & live”, vivi “everyday i love you” featuring haseul, loona 1/3 “sonatine”, Kim lip “eclipse”, jinsoul “singing in the rain”, choerry “love cherry motion”, loona odd eye circle “girl front” loona odd eye circle “sweet crazy love”, yves “new”, chuu “heart attack” 2018: gowon “one & only”, Hyeju (formerly known as Olivia Hye) “egoist” featuring jinsoul, loona yyxy “love4eva” featuring grimes Predebut subunits are Loona 1/3: heejin hyunjin haseul (technically yeojin although she didn’t participate) vivi odd eye circle: Kim lip jinsoul choerry (since all 3 joined modhaus they’re still an active subunit) Yyxy: yves chuu gowon Hyeju. November 25th 2022 bbc decided to expel chuu from loona and accuse her of bullying after her temporary injunction had finished. 70+ statements coming from people who have worked for chuu & loona came out in her Defense. The reason why she got an injunction in the first place was because she wasn’t being paid fairly. A few days later 9 out of the remaining 11 filed for an injunction. Later on the remaining 2 filed. More information came out by dispatch that was made in bbcs defence but it made bbc look worse. Then the pay system got exposed which was made in a way to keep the girls in debt unless they hit a certain margin that not even the big 4 could hit. Orbits decided to boycott with @unionloona’s guide after they asked for our opinions and at the same time 10/11 of the girls went silent. Except for hyunjin, on the day the news of chuu was released, she shared that she was angry and upset. She still had schedules to do so she didn’t file until later with vivi (the only Chinese member in loona) Bbc tried to get the 11 girls to have a comeback during the boycott, the boycott postponed the cb indefinitely. We also got in contact with several kpop stores to make sure they didn’t sell new loona albums. Around 240 stores stood with loona and agreed not to sell the potential loona cb (some stores were just selling older loona stock they had) the cb still hasn’t been released and may never be released. The girls slowly started winning their injunctions. A minor setback for a few as they didn’t win the first time. We also helped in court with petitions from orbits around the world. They finally all won their injunctions in June last year. Sunye the former wonder girls member and soloist also left bbc. Bbc had no current artists. Bbc also tried to take them into court several times by appealing and attempting to blacklist but atp they’re just wasting everyone’s time. Also applied for trademarks on all the girls names, the only one they got was “이달의 소녀 추“ which is “loona chuu” and it’s an old one (I think). The court also recognised that the “loona” name belonged to the members (not bbc) after bbc tried to sue the current unit “loossemble” (loona assemble) for their name. The girls are now split into 4 companies Modhaus: heejin haseul kim lip jinsoul choerry (artms, odd eye circle, heejin had a comeback and haseul released a single) Ctdenm: hyunjin yeojin vivi gowon hyeju (loossemble) Atrp: chuu Paix per mill: yves. All 12 girls have now debuted. Not too long ago it was found out that loona was about to hit that impossible margin in 2019. At the same time loona went into a long hiatus, they also had a LOT of unreleased media (which added to the cost) and their album that year was SEVERELY underprinted to the point that it’s considered rare. All of that had contributed to the fact that they were 2% short of hitting the 40% profit margin (breaking even). If they had released all the content (yyxy repackage, la Maison, cinema theory, butterfly dance set (Digipedi shaded bbc for this). Had enough x x albums ready and if they had a comeback that year… they would have soared past everyone (there were also rumours of bbc turning down coachella for loona that year, but idk) But yeah, orbits organised a boycott thats currently successful and is ongoing. Bbc is in the gutter (except they’re probably have geenius, a recent gg containing ex bbc trainees that do dance practices in bbc looking practice rooms) and orbits are broke from everything being released since they’re in units/solos again
Idk why I went off about November 25th omg it was traumatising 😭😭😭😭😭😭 it was a shitshow and had all orbits and even non orbits upset, especially orbits who were there from their predebut/rookie years.
Loona is a group of 12 members who debuted as a soloist one by one during 3 years (2016 to 2018). The first song is the solo debut for the 10th girl (Chuu) you were right. 😅 "PTT" was released during 2020 with its mini album called "&". The third song "Hi High" was the debut with all members after 12 solo songs, and it came with the mini album called "+ +". They were supposed to look for and find each other one by one throughout the video and then become a complete group. It was the perfect debut for Loona Then they released "Butterfly" which is a repackaged album called "× ×", it has the songs from the mini album "+ +" and some new ones, that's why it seems like they are from the same album but they are two in one 😅 "Why not" It is the main song from their mini album called "[12 : 00]"
btw guys if youtubers react to boycotted material and upload the video to youtube, youtube would still give money to BBC because it would recognise the songs as the ones uploaded by bbc.
I feel for anyone catching up on LOONA in 2024 because the music is so uplifting and a wonderful vibe... and then right under the surface is about as much baggage as an artist could possibly have. Do you feel a bit like that gif of Donald Glover walking into the apartment that's on fire and completely in chaos? I would lmao If you ever did feel like checking out more, ARTMS (5 of the girls) just released an album that is very much the spiritual successor to what LOONA was doing before. Especially on the b-sides. I think it's the mist warmly received album of LOONA's entire career.
Thank you for reacting for our loona girls🥰 hope we can tune in upcoming loona girl’s music together for a long long time🫶🫶🫶 …read all comments here I once again got confirmed how orbits love and support loona!!
You need to listen to their album [x x] is the one whit butterfly and hi high is their first one and the best i also recomend you the subunit odd eye circle
Loona is not 12 anymore atm because at nov 2022 member chuu got kicked out and then next month their company bbc announced their next comeback with 11 members and fans started to boycott and the comeback got cancelled later all the members have won all their lawsuits against bbc and they all left bbc 5 members created a sub unit called artms that made their debut with a full album 31.5 this year 5 members created the sub unit called loossemble and debuted last september then 2 members chuu and yves debuted as soloists and yves just receantly 29th of may
so we have to still boycott bbc so they don't get money so we can't listen to their official spotify but there is lots of podcasts made by fans that have all the loona songs then you can listen to the redebut songs too
i know what you mean, but loona is always 12. they are not disbanded as has been stated so many times. all 12 members are still loona, and we are all still orbits. the members call themselves loona all the time and always remind us they they are 12 members. also full group activities are completely possible when all companies’ schedules can align
Heyy, welcome to loona! as i'm sure others are already explaining to you all the loona and their ex-company situation as well as the boycott, i will tell you instead about the tracks you listened to the first track Heart attack by Chuu is probably the most played because Chuu is very famous in relation to the others members, but also the MV has great LGBT+ insinuations that made a lot a fans feel represented/embraced by loona The second track, PTT, has indian inspired instruments and was very streamed in India when it was released since it was the first Kpop song to do so the third track, Hi high, is actually their debut track(as a group cause they had a pre-debut project as solo members and units) and fun fact is a very fun fact to drive but use caution may cause accidents fourth track, butterfly has a beautiful MV and enchanting choreography, it really makes you think about what dance can be like in a group with so many members fifth track, why not, followed the trend of title tracks being very experimental started by the album before this one, it's also a song with only 11 members as haseul was on a break
loona introduced all members seperately while also dividing them into subunits - Loona 1/3, Loona Odd Eye Circle and then Loona YYXY. After this, all 12 members debuted as a group.
I'm just so proud of all of the Loona girls for staying in the industry doing what they love. I'm also proud of orbits for boycotting and making our voices heard and hitting BBC where it hurts. It's still astounding that all of the girls are able to continue in the industry, let alone that they have chosen to after all they went through.
I suggest you listen to their B-Sides. Here are my favorites. -Twilight -Love Letter -Puzzle -Sweet Crazy Love -Chaotic -Uncover -Starlight -D-1 -See Saw -Rosy -Stylish -Perfect Love -Heat -Colors -Curiosity -Number 1 -Fall Again -Ding Dong -Oh Yes (I Am) -Universe -U R
Always happy to see people discovering loona despite what's happening with the group. Would love more reactions. Their english song star is great, so many great bsides too
@@ShelbyShuffleMode Yeah 😭 5 of the Loona members are currently under the same label as tripleS too, Modhaus, ran by Loona's former creative director from. 2016-2019! tripleS primarily operate in different, smaller combinations of members though, they just had their 24 member full group debut last month
They definitely have moodier midtempos if you want something less "in your face"! Generally speaking, lots of people really like the [XX] album and consider it their best, so you might enjoy reacting to that one. If I may give a suggestion, it would be interesting to react to the "top track" of the 4 different "sub-projects" of LOONA post their lawsuit with their previous label BlockBerry Creative. So those four sub-projects would be: ARTMS (5 members), Chuu (soloist), Loossemble (5 members), Yves (soloist). Should be relatively easy to find on Spotify! :3
Would love to see your reaction to their post bbc music! Chuu and Yves are doing great solo work, and ARTMS and LOOSSEMBLE have put together some pretty incredible albums
Impeccable discography both pre-and post “three letter company” They have some of the best b-side material too. I listen to the old tracks on SC and stream the new stuff on Spotify. LOONA is a precious 💎
As a music lover myself (I love all genres), I think that kpop is a "genre" that has been over utilized. "Kpop" isn't only pop, as I'm sure you have already heard. R&B, Rap, Pop, jazz, rock, and others generally (not always) get labeled kpop, if they are done through Korean artists and/or music labels. I bring this up because kpop, more so than any other genre, incorporated the music video to convey even more emotion. And the videos have stellar production. Loona has created a color and world through their music videos, as well as their extremely well produced and engineered music. Listening to butterfly, which is a great song itself, doesn't convey the same emotion as watching the video. This could be said for most "kpop". Loona even has a story it's telling throughout the music videos that the music actually ties into. Also, Loona covers so many genres from pop, R&B, jazz pop, electronica, ballad, soultronica, and more. They seriously have one of the best discographies in Kpop. And their videos are actually breathtaking.
did you listen to the podcasts made by fans or to their official spotify account? because we (their fans) are still boycotting so we are not listening or streaming their music under blockberry creative (their old company) as the money still goes to them and not the members. if you indeed listened to their official account, please don't do it again! there are podcasts made by fans with boycotted music and they have their whole discography! all of the members re-debuted as now: chuu as a soloist; yves as a soloist; vivi, hyunjin, go won, hyeju & yeojin as loossemble; haseul, jinsoul, kim lip, heejin & choerry as artms, so you can listen to these discographies since they're under their new companies and they get the money from this music
I will admit this initial listen was from streaming sites but that is because I wasn’t aware of any of their issues prior to filming. I was asked many times to listen to their music but didn’t receive direction as to how or where. I definitely know now though (thanks to the informative comments) and will support the members 😊
shelby!! i was searching and searching through my watch history trying to find your channel today because i remembered how much i loved your red velvet and twice album reactions, but imagine my surprise when i see your most recent upload is a loona reaction?? loona has been my favorite girl group for a long time, and watching the trials (literally) and tribulations of 2022 in real time was an incredibly sad thing to witness. i'm just over the moon that they've all returned to music in some way or another and are continuing to use their talents to give us beautiful art to listen to. if you feel so inclined to return to loona, please check out that 2019 album 'xx'. while a lot of the tracks are high energy and fun, there are some slower tracks too. that whole album is just a burst of rainbow flavored electronic dance pop songs and 'stylish' in particular shines above the rest on that project (at least imo). or if you ever dive into what the members are up to now, chuu released an ep 9ish months ago, yves dropped a single a couple weeks ago, and the other members (split in half, 5 in each group) all just put out projects with their respective groups; ARTMS with 'DALL', and Loosemble with 'One of a Kind'. LOONA really is one of a kind, and discovering their music, their storytelling, their art has made me a better artist. if you end up finding some time, take another dip into the loonaverse. you won't be disappointed. much love
Are you gonna react to Aespa or tripleS as well? They are already battling for best GG full length album so far this year. I'm leaning more towards TripleS as a pure album, but Aespa has some really highs with Armageddon and Melody.
hiii!! I am one of those that requested for LOONA and completely forgot to mention the boycott well knowing you use spotify, so I truly apologize and should've known better to have informed you about it, and overall just made that more clear. you didnt do anything wrong so pls dont feel bad!! i really do appreciate you reacting to LOONA and hearing your insightful commentary ☺️. thank you!!!! it'd be amazing if you listened to their music as LOONA (through fan reuploads) but if you rather avoid that all together, you can react to their post LOONA grps: Loossemble, ARTMS, Yves (solo), and Chuu (solo). They all have albums available to stream on spotify! basically anything that released 2023 and now is okay to listen too!! Loossemble: "Loossemble" debut EP (2023), "One Of a Kind" 2nd EP (2024) ARTMS: debut album (2024) Chuu (solo): "Howl" debut EP (2023), her 2nd EP "Strawberry Rush" releases this month on the 25th! Yves (solo): "LOOP" debut EP (2024)
It may seem like a daunting task, but I highly recommend going through all of LOONA's solos, sub unit and group's music in order! It's absolutely worth it. There are different boycott playlists but here's one of them: ru-vid.com/group/PL48_NogEPvAlbt27_0XrNXOjXlCbmsHwQ&feature=shared
It was really interesting to hear your first reaction! If you haven't been scared off by the whole boycott mess it'd be really fun to hear more of your thoughts! Maybe Loossemble, ARTMS, Chuu and Yves to hear their post-BBC work? I just found you through this video so I'm not exactly sure how you like to go about things, there are unofficial uploads of their music if you'd like to go through their albums as LOONA, my personal favourites are actually their 3 subunit albums, Love & Evil, Max & Match and Beauty And The Beat!
hii! before loona’s debut, all 12 members released solos and they were split into 3 subunits!! their predebut releases are great - u could watch them all in order, OR here are good ones to begin with (that show their range) solos : eclipse (kim lip), kiss later (yeojin), love cherry motion (choerry), egoist (hyeju) subunit songs : sonatine , girl front , sweet crazy love, love4eva (ft. grimes) these arent my favs, BUT i think they are great intros to pre-debut loona! ive seen that you have read comments about how to boycott - thankyou for caring :)
The fan favorite album is X X, but I also think # and & are very strong. Also, now that the members have redebuted under different companies, Loossemble's self-titled album and Artms' DALL album as well as Yves' LOOP and Chuu's Howl are all pretty amazing. And they're short so you can easily check them all out!
as far as the group of 12 is concerned i highly recommend their XX album or their Flip That album. currently the group is split between 2 groups of 5 members and 2 soloists. one of the groups called ARTMS recently debuted with a full album and it is currently my album of the year so if you want something more up to date i think that would be a great place to start as well.
All of the member have solos and subunits before the whole group debuted! (The subunits in order of first debut to last are, LOONA 1/3, Odd Eye Circle and yyxy)
so happy that you gave loona a listen but please boycott! there are plenty reuploads on spotify like TwevleM and podcasts, and on youtube but also on soundcloud aswell :D
seeing people continue to enjoy loona's music after all they've been through makes me so happy, like genuinely pulling at my heartstrings 🥹 thank u for this!
