Who is the Red Soul? - Deltarune Theory 

Drinking game! Drink everytime I say, “so yeah” or “that’s the theory in a nutshell”. Warning: you will die!

Random detail: Chara has brown eyes, whereas Frisk's eye color is ambiguous, and Kris' is red

0:22 Ah yes, all three games. Undertale, Deltarune and Nutdealer

“a fictional character interacting with the real world is too far fetched” has always been such a wild point to me. is that not what flowey and/or chara did? both speak directly to the player and take advantage of the save system, whether it be by themselves or with our help. just because they never explicitly state that they’re in a video game doesn’t mean they aren’t aware of *some* sort of “real world” occupied by beings they know can manipulate their own

21:21 to clear a misunderstanding, UT *does* avoid using Kanji, and Chara using Kanji is something only *they* do in UT. However in DR; while characters in the Light World use a writing style similar to UT characters, they do use quite a lot of Kanji in the Dark World. So in DR, the second voice (the one who cuts off the character creation) isn't unique in using Kanji. [Plus, second voice's way of speaking is *slightly* different than Chara. While Chara calls the player by お前(omae) using Kanji, second voice writes the same word as おまえ(omae) only using Hiragana.]

One of Kris' descriptions in the Dark World is "a body containing a human soul", so that pretty clearly debunks the Dess theory

I feel like the ending of Chapter 1 outright confirms that the Soul is the player, and it's that simple. In case you didn't know, the soul will move one pixel at a time in the birdcage if you move the arrow keys, while Kris moves on their own. My interpretation is that the soul is just the player

19:29 gonna be real, none of this indicates that kris has been acting abnormal for longer than the 2 days the game has taken place for. kris "doing this sometimes" means they take a while in the bathroom, which is normal for teens especially. alphys saying "just lately?" actually implies that kris acts in a concerning way a lot, which makes sense given what we know about them, as sort of an outcast who occasionally plays mean jokes. and i really dont see why the word "recently" implies more than 2 days.

Tbh I’m betting on it being a combo of 1 and 5-the Soul was originally Kris’s, but whatever they did to ‘make a connection’ allowed presumably-Gaster to make it ‘ours’ in the same way the Soul is in Undertale

I'd just like to point out that, while "would Toby, who is a good writer, write a theory as dumb is this fanfic?" is the most solid litmus test for any theorycrafting, we know Toby himself to be an unreliable narrator. The steam page for Deltarune alone has changed multiple time. So Toby saying "nah" doesn't throw the Chara theory away - but every variant of it being some "My Immortal" tier fanfic does.

Not a big fan of the calling Chara a "evil demon" but at least it is ignorable! Besides that a fun/good theory video!

I am a firm believer of the red soul being Kris' own soul. Not because of any one piece of evidence, but due to logical deductions based on what we know about souls in general. If the red soul was anything BUT Kris' soul, that leaves us with three options: Either Kris has two human souls, Kris lost their soul, or Kris was born soulless. All three are flawed. Alphys says in her true lab entries that humans cannot absorb human souls. Kris' first Dark World description says "Body contains a human SOUL." This implies the red soul IS a human soul, as it would be weird for that to be referring to anything but the soul we control. Since we see Kris absorb the red soul, that implies they have no human soul of their own. I guess it's technically possible for that rule not to apply, since these are different universes, but it's still worth noting. But we don't need Undertale to disprove this, as Kris literally dies if the soul shatters. That doesn't make sense if Kris has a soul of their own & would be left as a perfectly normal human once our soul is gone. So for now, it's most logical to assume Kris has one soul. Kris also can't have lost their soul, as souls are described as "the culmination of your being." Everything that contains who you are as a person is in your soul. This is further supported by the fact that when Asriel absorbed Chara's soul, they became conscious in his body. There's also the six human souls that actively help you & rebel against Flowey. So then, if Kris lost their soul, they shouldn't be able to do things on their own without our input. The fact that they do implies their soul is inside their body, but it can't be if our soul isn't Kris' soul. The only scenario that's technically possible is if Kris was born soulless, and our soul being present in their body granted them the ability to feel compassion & stuff. This seems highly unlikely though, as Kris' first Dark World description labels them as "Human," which, means they're a human (obviously). Humans have souls. They also don't really share much in common with the two soulless beings we've met in the series so far. Yeah, Kris is a loner & a bit creepy, but that could easily be attributed to them being an edgy teenager. I doubt they lacked the ability to feel compassion before we came along. So, while technically possible, Kris being born soulless just doesn't line up. The only possibility at this point is that the red soul IS Kris' soul, and we're simply controlling it directly. It's entirely possible that the red soul we control during the Goner Maker is also Kris' soul being summoned there for us to inhabit. Perhaps the red soul we control during the Goner Maker is different from the soul inside Kris; some sort of representation of the player, rather than literally being the player. That does make sense in the context of that same Goner Maker soul showing up during game over screens AFTER the soul inside Kris has already shattered.

you say multiple times that toby said "UT isn't connected to DR" but in the FAQ he says they might be connected...

Something I like to point out to people is that it never is directly said that gaster fell into the core. It says he made the core and that he fell into his creation. And based on entry seventeen and the survey program it sounds like Gaster created deltarune. OR the device necessary to enter deltarune's world. And so I think he fell into that instead of the core. And since he was shattered through time and space, perhaps he was the royal scientist while Chara was alive? The G Followers also say that Asgore took a long time to replace Gaster. And Alphys found those old videotapes of Chara and Asriel, meaning the lab likely had them inside. That means that Chara could very well be one of the people he was talking to at the end of entry seventeen. "What do you two think?"

I've been just waiting for someone to put out the theory that Kris summoned Gaster in a demon summoning ritual!! I personally think the motivation for them summoning Gaster is to have Power/LV-- Not for nefarious reasons, but to get Dess back from the dark. They've been shown to have trauma surrounding the Bunker, which I believe that many people theorize is how Dess went missing. This could also tie into how Asgore was forced to retire from the police force(I've heard a theory that it was for his failure to find Dess)-- maybe Kris thinks that by absolving Asgore of that responsibility by getting Dess back, they could get their family back together. Whew, that was long winded, but I hope it provides theory fuel for anyone out there!

I’m fairly certain that the reason behind Kris’s love of chocolate and other chara like traits is because they are chara, just this worlds version

re: the demon thing. there is a type of code called a “daemon” which runs constantly in the background of most programs in case it’s pinged to do a service check. I think “the narrator” or whoever’s possessing kris likely plays a similar role, existing in the back of their head but occasionally throwing their soul out of their body so that they can course-correct kris back into whatever’s been planned for them. kris is probably into the actual occult and summoning real demons (whether or not they exist is another question), but I think whatever “demon” is possessing them is much more metaphorical and more closely tied to “daemon” as a tech concept than “demon” as a religious idea

My crackpot secondary theory, behind us just possessing them at the beginning and that's it, is that kris got possessed in a ritual they conducted before we came along and the demon made them manhandle their soul enough to destroy it, leading to some concerned third party sending us to prevent them from dying

I love to consume semi-regular Deltarune content

Toby says in the Deltarune FAQ "It's a different world that might even have different rules. That doesn't mean there will be no connections at all though" in regards to Undertale and Deltarune. He's only implied that Deltarune won't retroactively change the events of Undertale or change/spoil that game's ending, but there likely will be some connections. As for the Chara soul theory, it's not necessarily my preferred theory but my understanding is that the theory is meant to explain where Chara and Asriel's combined soul goes after Asriel's death in Undertale and has nothing to do with Undertale's ending(s). We never see that soul used as one of the seven to break the barrier. Additionally, in True Lab we see a strange machine at the end with what appears to be a red heart inside of it. If connected, then this would line up with the various "device" terminology used to refer to the soul in Deltarune, as well as the hidden file select screen in chapter 1 that has a more machine-like UI. Finally, at the end of Chapter 1 (and in a few other points I think?) we see the soul flash white, which would make sense if it was fused with a monster soul.

[Not] Gaster can't physically take control of our real world souls and put them in the game for us to control (unless we pretend he can). Which is why I believe the soul was simply created by [Not] Gaster to serve as a link between us and the game, to embody and represent our presence. Why I think he made the soul red is to invoke a sense of familiarity to undertale, since [Not] Gaster wants people to play his game, and he probably knows said people are likely to have played undertale prior.

12:28 Edit: as a reply reminded me, an official book mentions that it’s the player’s determination that allows frisk to save and load. (Original: Flowey isn’t necessarily talking to the player. He can just be talking to Chara. There’s many things in Undertale that *can* be interpreted as breaking the fourth wall and talking to/about the player, but none of them are necessary. They can also be read within the context of the game and work perfectly fine) 23:30 it’s specifically pointed out that frisk started the geno route. Each step along that path awoke Chara more, but Chara did not overtake Frisk’s will and force all of it to happen. Remember, Chara says “it was you who led the world to its destruction”

I can't tell if the fact you use the "Chara is demonic child obsessed with knives and we didn't corrupt them by Genocide Route, which was OUR choice only" misinterpretation while being like "Gaster totally not narrator and the one who took over Undertale/Deltarune twitter" is just you actually believing this misinterpretation or intentional irony.

Just a little side note, while I don't know how much I believe some of the theories listed here it seemed your main reasoning for dismissing some of them was the fact that Toby Fox himself stated that Deltarune is a different world separate from Undertale, and that it's not a sequel or prequel in the traditional sense- as he puts it "It's just a game you can play after you complete UNDERTALE, if you want to." Which you seem to have taken as evidence there are are no connections between the two games or their worlds whatsoever. However, something I think you're not taking into account is the VERY NEXT question in that FAQ page you were showing to cite the quotes from Toby, which states: Q: So there's no connections between the two games? A: It's a different world that might even have different rules. That doesn't mean there will be no connections at all though. Which in other words is Toby Fox straight up saying that despite being different worlds, there are connections- or at the very least some things that connect the two worlds in some way. So with that in mind I don't think that dismissing some of the theories listed in this video with the reasoning that there are no connections between Undertale and Deltarune is very fair or accurate.

I'm sure a thousand people have already commented about this, but Monika does very notably have a Twitter page. That doesn't detract from your argument really but I figured I'd point it out.

I believe that the soul belongs to Kris and we just took control of it when the experiment (aka the game) began.

25:06 yt deleted my og comment so heres the gist: the soul we see is a human soul, it says so in the dark world menu. since theres absolutely *no* reason to believe that dess is a human, this disproves that theory, at least for now. personally, i think that the soul is ours only in the sense that we control it, and i am partial to it either being originally kris' (easy choice) or a device created by gaster somehow (molly stars theory choice).

I really enjoy how thorough you are in your analysis of potential theory possibilities, and that you avoid writing fanfiction in your theories. You are very logical; you've earned a subscribe!

Love the video! I agree that the soul is likely the player's, since Undertale and Deltarune are very meta. Sidenote: it's not exactly right to say Chara posesses Frisk and commits murder. Chara describes themselves as a humble servant to the player. Chara only kills Flowey at the very end, everything else is all the player. The point of the game is that WE decided to hurt people, not some demonic spirit. WE summoned THEM, not the other way around. It's the player's fault.

The red soul is _YOU*_ ... Its pretty obvious that its you, since when Kris rips the SOUL out, you can still move it independently from Kris...

"where did it come from?" idk "where did it go?" where are you going with this? "where did it come from?" you asked this already "cotton eye joe" *realization"

I'd just correct that Flowey talks to Chara after the pacifist ending, because at the end of the speech he says "see you later... Chara" which is a big reveal that hints at the possibility that Chara is the one that has the power to reset (the highlighted yellow choices in Deltarune are also only present in the last choice in the Genocide ending in Undertale). Chara is the only one potentially talking to the player at the end of the genocide route, Flowey never mentions the player otherwise, he always talks to either Frisk or Chara

I like JaruJaru's theory that the red soul is Kris's but they are being possessed by a monster soul which they absorbed (in this case he theorized it was Asriel's)

32:25 Something that further supports this idea is the fact in Kris's room and through all town's folk we learn that Asriel is way more popular and successful than they ever could be, so maybe they wanted to be someone else as a way to no longer live in their brother's shadow?

The thing that sells me most on the first theory, is that at the end of chapter 1 when the red soul is in the bird cage it can move! If you press the arrow keys you can see it slightly moving!

It’s us and gaster.

"So it almost seems like we're being lured in to play this game by Gas- i mean the Narrator" Even Soph cant refuse the fact that its Gaster lmao

I don't think that the question of this video has any relevance to what is actually going on in Undertale/Deltarune. The actual question is : What twist is Toby making ? I had this "Meta" theory going around in my head for months that connects every detail from the puzzle Toby's created : game's data, game's lore, game's characters and the real world websites + "unofficial tarot card". It all revolves on Gaster, unsurprisingly. But the fact is : we know almost nothing on what Gaster did while being an actual character in Undertale. We only know he built the Core and that True Lab's DT extractor is his creation, too. But can we figure out other things about him, aside from what info we've been given ? *YES.* Let's start with determining when and how Gaster disappeared in the timeline, and i have a damn good explanation for it. Number 6 is heavily associated with our skeleton goner, his stats in the code are made of sixes, the FUN value needed to have a chance of finding "Mystery Man"'s room, the Deltarune's bunker noise which is Gaster's noise that's slown down by exactly 666%. That number is also associated with the number of human souls in ASGORE's posession, which gave me an idea that Gaster's "vanishing" is heavily implied to be the time period after Asgore had collected 6 human souls, hence why Flowey in Undertale doesn't talk about other humans, and also means that Sans and Papyrus has arrived from their home world (other universe) to the Underground at roughly the same time Gaster has disappeared (Papyrus haven't seen any humans at all). That means that Gaster had enough Determination extracted from humans, to literally become a Meta character, who can interact with not only the world of Undertale, but the real world also, the twitter messages, and Deltarune website logs that contained 2 messages in Wingdings, one being quote from Entry Number 17, and the other being a description of a story : 1) "THIS NEXT EXPERIMENT SEEMS VERY, VERY INTERESTING." 2) "THREE HEROES ABANDONED ANGEL'S HEAVEN" And the "unofficial tarot card" of Gaster, which shows him walking through a grey door, and, as a reflection, DT Extractor, which is a "confirmation" that the grey door is caused by the Extractor, which means that Gaster has used Determination on himself. His fate reminds me of MCU's Spider-Man in No Way Home, where everyone forget the real identity of Spider-Man. Here is a simialr effect. That's also why the game crashes when you try to enter his name. So, we have the timeline and cause of vanishing, time to talk about the elephant in the room : Chara. As we know, Gaster existed as a character in time when Chara had fallen, died and tried to destroy humanity, using Asriel as their weapon, which led me to another biggest discovery : Chara's soul being present in True Lab. After you find all the keys and put them into slots, and go activate the elevator, in the final room where Alphys gives her confession to Frisk, the machine that we used to activate the elevator has a small slot right above the keyboard (or the control system), which has a RED soul inside it. Chara's soul. Not only it confirms the "Soulless Chara" theory, it also confirms that Gaster was the culprit behind Chara's plan, since, logically, Gaster, while being a scientist, wouldn't camp near the barrier, waiting for Chara to arrive in Asriel's body and other 6 human souls, if he wasn't involved. So, perhaps, out of guilt, he hid the soul for no one to find and he was the reason the player had to go through all this to get to the end. It means that Flowey is not the only one who couldn't have his happy ending. Gaster is also guilty of creating the Player's soul and their control on the world of Undertale, it's confirmed by Sans on genocide route that Player is an anomaly, an unnatural being of power to save and load that's connected to another world, our world, REAL world, that's why Flowey who could do the same isn't an anomaly : he's a character of Undertale, we're not. We're an Intruder. That's a convoluted way of saying that Gaster is guilty of Undertale. Time to talk about Gaster being a meta character and his involvement in Deltarune. That's where i should give another long text about everything..It's not. The big reveal isn't here yet, and i don't know much about it. The only thing i might know is that the twist is, maybe, going to happen in Chapter 6 (Gaster's number; that's also why Toby wanted to release chapters 3,4,5 before going full on chapter 6), and also that Gaster is responsible for the "experiment" in Deltarune. And another thing, Gaster mentioned 2 other people in Entry Number 17, saying : "What do you two think ?". I don't think it's any of the characters in UT/DT, but the characters that represent 2 main people in Undertale/Deltarune's creation : Toby Fox and Temmie Chang. Yep, i'm insane saying that, and maybe it's too far fetched, that's a big conspiracy theory about Toby's dream game he started developing in 2012 after all. But it's a big game, a bigger plot, even bigger secrets. I might be going somewhere. That's still just a theory. Last addition : Kris might be the consequence of Post-Genocide (Post-Pacifist) route, the demon having the body and the soul of the player in their posession, that is the reason of Kris' behaviour at the end of each chapter. Can't go anywhere without the player, but can have control at the end of chapter, when player is not in control of the chapter ending; they want to sent Deltarune "back to the abyss" to get full control over the game. So Toby would finally achieve what he couldn't in Undertale's genocide route: have the game delete itself at the end.

I think everyone can agree the red soul is the player

"...your utmost servant" "since when where you the one in control". Gave me the idea that the device is an intermediary, knowing what a player can influence (multiple choice boxes, combat choices, what to interact with) giving you the opportunity to interact with the world as best as it can. Kris is also there and is able to influence the output as a "player character". The device makes our choices possible, making us responsible for acting intrusively towards Kris in some ways or going down certain predetermined paths. This theory upholds the interesting conflict between us and Kris.

12:50 I think possible not probable knowing the creator's style doesn't mean they write the same story twice. Toby may use that theme again, but being the creator of both games isn't reliable evidence that the theme will return, it just opens up the possibility that it might.

I feel like making genocide the cannon leading to deltarune sends very much the wrong messege.

Something I think is that the red soul is a vessel of some sort and it “harnesses” the energy of “our real world soul” and turns it into a character of its own. We are a character in the story. A part of us controls Kris because what we do with the controls of the game, the soul does. When Kris throws the Soul into the cage, we can move it around in the cage. Gaster- I mean, the narrator finds a huge discovery on how to harness real world soul energy into its own character. The narrator wants to test this, and chooses Kris for it. Then in the Tweets he lures us into playing the game, giving him the energy to fill the empty vessel. Turning it into our own player. Through the console, we control our vessel. The narrator doesn’t have enough power to take more energy to give our vessel a body, so he puts it into Kris and takes Kris’s soul. When Kris rips out our vessel aka soul, Kris regains control. But without a soul they are zombie like and moves slowly. When the narrator is done with its research at the very end of the game, he gives Kris’s soul back and is now satisfied. This is the normal route. If you complete the weird route, we take complete control of Kris, and refuse Kris’s soul back and after defeating the roaring knight, you fight ralsei and kill him. Then you open up one dark fountain after the other over and over until the world turns to dust. It’s a long theory of mine but it’s what makes the most sense.

23:35 chara wasn’t the one making frisk do anything. If you read their dialogue, they say it was you who did it. In fact that we only have proof that Chara killed sans asgore and flowey because their damage matches what they do to us. Chara only helps you after a certain point . For example, if you try to fight undyne before exhausting to kill count chara will say “ strongly felt X left. Should not proceed yet.” But you can still proceed if you want to. Meaning chara isn’t the one responsible for genocide you are as prior to new home they only help you keep track.

"Just the narrator", HOW COULD YOU DO ME LIKE THAT? edit: you are forgiven

I bet other people have/will say this but. You realise Chara doesn't control Frisk until the end of the Sans fight and somwhat after. It is us who commits genocide not Chara. Chara even gets disgusted with your genocide runs if you keep doing them. I understand it was a mistake, but it was quite a big one concidering you said something along the lines of "Possesion is the main focus of undertale's genocide route". But good job on the video.

It's the Player and Gaster and Chara and Kris and Sans and Ralsei and The Egg Man and The Original Starwalker

Just pointing out, the plot of the genocide run isn’t Chara possessing Frisk. Chara at the end reveals that they’re the narrator in all runs. The player controls Frisk into killing and since Frisk and Chara share EXP and LV you basically turn Chara insane and evil in the genocide run. Also their name is Chara as in character so the ‘ch’ sound shouldn’t be made.

Honestly Player Soul would is so probable that it’d be stranger if it wasn’t true than if it was. A phrase I see no one talking about when mentioning the theory is “That is your SOUL. The very culmination of your being”. It make so much sense if the SOUL in Deltarune (and probably Undertale) isn’t our actual soul but our “SOUL” that Flowey/Ralsei mentions (as in the red SOUL is the culmination of our being inside of these worlds)

You make insanely good theory videos, thank you for making the wait for Deltarune easier

when the player controls suzie, and she fights lancer, the red soul flies from kris to the battle box. toby fox has said that this is intentional. just thought this might add to the discussion

Some Undertale and Deltarune fans really absolutely cannot accept that they're responsible for the consequences of their actions, huh. "Chara genocide possession", "Kris acts like Chara because they did Snowgrave" - it's a hilarious level of blame shifting. Chara only starts influencing us later in Genocide, while Kris clearly has many ways to back out of Snowgrave and Noelle makes multiple indications that Kris is acting off or sounding different.

i just recently discovered your channel and i just gotta say i love your videos, they’re so interesting but also goofy and funny, keep up the good work!

About the Japanese translation, I want to point out something I noticed here. For context, in modern usage, Katakana is primarily used for onomatopoeia and foreign loan words, whereas Kanji is used for nouns and adjectives in formal writing and hiragana is used for basically everything else. Both Gaster and Chara's writing is unusual in their own way. Chara's is pretty in line with formal writing, however this level of formality is very unusual for a young child. This is pretty in line with even the English speech in Undertale, where Chara has an unusually formal speech pattern, especially for a kid, which is interesting but this means the lines in Deltarune don't really give us more insight. Gaster, on the other hand, is almost using a formal writing style, except that every location that should be using hiragana is using katakana instead. The implication is that there's something either "alien" or "archaic" about Gaster, because this particular writing style was really only used by the Japanese Empire in official documents.

so chara is the owner of the red soul do to the geno run and chara saying "lets go to the new WORLD" and kills you and her/he/it gets your soul so that may be it idk

My theory is that the red soul belongs to kris but we the player are controlling the soul and we can probably control it because kris succeeded in summoning a "demon" (gaster probably) with which they made some kind of deal where the "demon" has control over the soul but as some kind of experiment gives the player control over the soul.

You mentioned OFF and even used their music I love you for that. +Sub

I actually had my own Dess is the red soul theory. But I kind of forgot about the narrators importance when making it. I never wrote it down, which is something I still kick myself for because I did try to find as much evidence for it is as I could, but no longer remember all the details. The gist of the theory went that Kris witnessed Dess fall down and in order to save her from death absorbed her soul. We know that in Undertale that Chara and Asriel both shared at least some control over their fused body, although Asriel had the most control at the time. I even added onto this theory saying thay Asgore knows what happened and thats why he was kicked off the force and/or quit his job as an officer. Whether it was his unwillingness to look into Dess's disapearance or him actively sabotaging the investigation (assuming there was one to begin with). I also think that this may have had something to do with Asgore and Toriel's divorce in this timeline as the reason for their divorce in undertale was due to Asgore deciding to commit infantcide. Again, I had a more detailed explanation as to how this made sense at one point, but it's lost on me now. I did make a lot of fanfictiony type narratives to connect this theory to other aspects of the game like Asgore, but I think Kris absorbing Dess's soul makes sense on it's own. Admittedly, I don't have a lot of strong evidence for this theory (at least none I recorded for future/current me to look back on) and it does get weaker when you look at the Snowgrave route because, well, why would Dess do that to her own sister? I could say "well, maybe Dess wants Noelle to be stronger so she can save her from beind essentially dead somehow" or use the siphoning determination theory as a means to bring herself back to life. Or maybe shes going through something similar that Flowey went through and just doesn't know how to handle not being able to feel. Which works well with the dialogue hidden in the code of the game. I really like this theory, and I really want to put it out there even though I admit it's pretty weak. Maybe someone will see this and add onto it.

12:19 He's talking to the fallen human in that moment, though the degree of separation we have from the fallen human is ... ambiguous, given that we're the one reviving the fallen human and granting them name, purpose, and determination.

I’m inclined to agree that Player Theories are fine, Undertale did it itself so it carrying over in a game that questions what player control means for game characters.

The amount of shade thrown at jaru is excellent, thanks.

wake up babe, new TheSoph™ video just dropped ❤

I thought it was completely obvious that the red soul is the player a.k.a us.

the dess theory is cool, i'd never heard that one! also love the celeste gameplay lol

12:42 a thing to point out here is that after that flowey says chara , which means he was talking to chara. That doesn't make much sense since chara isn't there, but that's how it was in the game.

Referring to the part around 7:00 - Toby once said in a tweet that Tweets and Merch aren't canon, so I don't think these tweets are meant to be considered evidence, just fun immersion to build up hype.

you know, I've had a very weird non-meta theory ever since I've heard about our control of Kris in Deltarune. it's more of a Undertale theory but i digress. -ho boy... here we go- *edit:* okay... JUST now i began to think about this and it's just so dumb, none of my theory makes sense because WE'RE AN ACTUAL PLAYER in Undertale, it gets very meta so mine does not hold up in the slightest, i am so sorry... i had something going but it's not worth explaining it in detail. tl;dr (short explanation of my dumb theory): i theorized that born humans with souls once they reach a certain age (assuming when they gain some sort of sentience) begin to act in very specific ways as they grow, wether to talk whatever comes to mind, let out their inner thoughts, and also basically the whole RPG-like menu we have in UT, with every opportunity they get they will act in very unique ways, be it strategically or naturally, they learn from what's good and what's bad, and when they finally age into a grown adult, the more they have control of their body to make their own decisions, not needing to depend on the instincts of their soul no longer. (edit) long half-assed unfinished explanation: -so, beginning with Frisk, ever since we get into the game, we have no background knowledge about Frisk and why did they decided to explore Mt. Ebott in in the first place. In the ruins even Asriel questions why did Frisk fall down in the Underground, was it an accident? was it... something personal that had to do with their homelife? none of us know, but then, this made me think about the soul in Deltarune, and how we influence with Kris' actions, because Kris KNOWS something about us, at certain moments we'll be given choices even though he probably doesn't want to respond in the first place, we also make him do things he never wished to do, so this made me think even more about the-

I think its meant to be an artifical representation of oursleves rather than literally our soul Undertale and Deltarune have very meta narratives My personal idea on Gaster's situation is that whatever accident happened to him sort of ejected his conciousness into a higher plane of existence, either our own or the next close thing, so to him both Undertale and Deltarune are games just how we see them, and like the scientist he is, he's absolutely intrigued by us and wants to learn I believe in the context of the story of both games, the player, you, the person actively playing, is a character who's also part of the story with your own perspective and the game is clearly playing with the dybamic of player character and player and what kind of person that reflects on you, if it reflects at all, and i feel like yhe soul being anyone else but the player kind of tramples on the meta narrative the games intentionally build and the whole theme of what is moral to do when you are suddenly in total control of someone else's life which they have no choice or control on, with the twist being that to them it is real life, it's their whole life and existence, messed with by some sort of stranger parasite or god to us? it's just a game, sure a game we might get attached to, but still a game, the way we see this is not the same Kris does, for us, there's no real consequences to doing Weird Route, at worst we'll just go to the files and change something up and it'll he back to normal, ultimately it's a game from our perspective, and no permanent punishment can be deslt to us we can't realitically change or shrig off, and thay dynamic i think is what Deltarune is aiming for

Demon = Fallen Angel The Knight wants to bring the Roaring and creates dark fountains so...??

Man, i love ya and your theories 😊

11:51 - After all, Flowey is a psychopath, so it's not surprising.

That would make sense if we were the soul because Narrorator said he said choose YOUR vessel implying it is our soul.

I think it's Kris's soul, but we've commandeered it, most likely with "help" from Gaster.

YOOO thesoph upload just dropped -

PLEASE just call the narrator "Gaster". It couldn't be more obvious that it's him at this point, and if you're doing this to "avoid an argument in the comment section", you're only enabling the Gaster denier crowd. They're quite possibly the most ignorant aspect of the DR theorycrafting community. Most things tie back to Gaster because Gaster IS tied to most things, we just haven't met him face-to-face yet. If you're going to make Deltarune theories and not connect the dots between things like the Gaster Twitter posts, "darker yet darker"/"very very interesting", the all-caps and letter-spacing implying it's translated from wingdings, the "Goner maker" sequence tying back to the Goners/Gaster Followers from Undertale, and all the hoards of significant other details that are meant to guide the player to a "ah, yes, this IS Gaster" ephiphany, then you're hardly making a theory. You're stating uncertainty while standing on uncertainty, and without making a clear stance on your opinion on the direction of the game, I have no reason to watch 30 minutes of "lol I dunno, what if it belongs to Dess? lmao". Ironically, you also name-drop a character we also have yet to meet who had likely suffered the same fate as Gaster. Not trying to be a jerk, but I'm tired of seeing this. Eight years have passed and we're still getting Gaster breadcrumbs, clearly he's an important, active mystery with an imminent and relevant resolution inbound. The community goes so long without content that they end up ouroboros-ing themselves beyond reason. Characters like "Mike" get name-dropped and have oodles of fans speculating about who they are, despite likely being just another Darkner boss (foreshadowed in the same way that Queen and the Knight were name-dropped by Jevil). When Deltarune is fully completed, it will be a game with clearly defined patterns, narratives, and twists that will make sense when looking at it as a whole. Especially in respect to Undertale, regardless of what Toby Fox said ONCE on the website's FAQ, which was clearly meant to lower fan expectations.

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1:35 this reminds me of OneShot because the player and the character we control are huge characters for the sake of the story

In my opinion, Kris _is_ Chara. Chara in Undertale was raised by humans, and ran away as a child to a trapped raced of monsters who they wanted to save by wiping out humanity as they were the ones who effectively were both the race they ran away from (for unknown reasons, but it must have been bad to literally want to die as a child). This is Chara in Deltarune, probably being adopted much earlier in their life. Kris is nurture and Chara is Nature. All the things we see that are "Chara" from Kris-such as knife/chocolate love and being a bit weird-would be Chara's "Nature" where as the things we think are different, such as Kris actually jumping in the way to save Suzie, is because of Toriel's and Asgore's Nurture. Chara is not evil incarnate, they were filled by hatred due to humanity. This includes, but is not limited to, the players interactions with their old soul. (At least, I assume it's their old soul, as Frisk seems like a reincarnation of Chara in a way. Tl;dr, I think "Is it Frisk's Soul" and "Is it Chara's Soul" and "Is it Kris's Soul" can be merged into one theory I'd like to call: "Is it Kris's Soul."

You mean you weren't... Souled

There is one piece of evidence that could prove that Kris has a monster soul attached to their own soul, and that it the end of Chapter one. This was mentioned once by JaruJaru on RU-vid. There's a moment where Kris's soul shines white (the color of monster souls). There's a chance this was done just for visual effect but we know that when Asriel took Chara's soul that he had to fight over control of his body, so the same could be true for Kris. Also, I personally believe that Kris is this timeline's Chara. This would explain why Kris acts similar to Chara with their love of chocolate and prank pulling. Kris has shown that they hold some weird emotions regarding humanity, as well. When they look at the human history book at the library they are quick to close it, and refuse to look at it again. Chara is implied to have been abused by other humans and that's why they were so willing to kill a whole village to shatter the barrier. Chara became a game completionist demon in Undertale for the same reasons Asriel became a bloodthirsty flower who wanted god-hood, so when I say that Kris is Chara, I mean the version of Chara before they died. (Also I honestly don't think Chara was intended to be the canon name of the first fallen human but just a way of telling the player that they ARE the fallen human or the fallen human is the Main "Chara"cter, so when "Chara" shows up at the end they are not meant to be "Chara" but YOU. But then again, "Chara" can be confused by your actions if you do the genocide route multiple times, so there's a chance you are playing as Frisk and you, as Frisk, are making the decision to geno, instead of you as Chara. It's kinda weird to figure out where you the player, Frisk, and Chara end and begin as the protag of Undertale, and Deltarune might actually end up clearing that all up.)

This video finna be interasting

Its also interesting what Toby means by "completed" Undertale at 17:09, does it mean only the pacifist route, or all routes? And if its all of them, why would you need to know the genocide route to play Deltarune? Fun fact, if you play Deltarune on console, the first thing it does is tell you to complete Undertale before playing Deltarune, so there's clearly some connections

I can't handle the gangster SpongeBob pfp...insta sub

Good content as always

didnt even know about the Soulless Pacifist ending until this video. crazy stuff

That cotton eyed joe joke made me chuckle loudly

12:19 He's talking to Chara

10:31 monika can't interact with the people on *social media*, but they do outright write on the official ddlc website

Your Celeste gameplay puts me in a trance 😂 I keep going in and out of focus on the theories.

The opening alone gets a like from me

The machine theory is similar to the device theory, maybe both can add up to make it even more complete~~

When it comes to Dess theory, the color of monster souls is not really established since the only time we see soul of monster is in a battle mode where most of things are black and white (With certain exceptions like backgrounds, weapons, certain attacks, magic like Asgore's triend, Sans'es eye, Asriel's battle) by following the logic of lore Flowey should be colorful since he is the only being in the underground that contains a vessel *that is not made with magic* and doesn't dust away, (besides the humans and animals that fell in) the souls of monsters might have just less intense colors because of little amount of determination they are storing.

I haven’t watched the video yet, but I feel like the red soul has to belong to ether a human or the player because the character creation screen shows the soul creating a human vessel, not a monster one. So it couldn’t be Asriel, Gaster, Dess, or Gerson. Also Kris couldn’t both know who the soul is and have it be Asriel or Dess because Kris was seemingly their friends, it wouldn’t make sense for them to be acting so violently towards them.

The Player theory is the most likely one I think the Soul is actually a Core of Influence Every time Kris rips it out, We can Control the Soul when it is in the Cage

Problem with the Dess theory: It's a full blown Human soul. The color *is* a problem, but the shape is another issue. Monster souls have always been shown as upside down hearts, so to assume that Dess' soul would be the exact shape and color of a determined human soul is a bit of a stretch, not to mention the fact that noelle says the voice telling her what to do was "Terrifying" to her. If it really was her sister it would more likely be calming, soothing, a 𝙛𝙖𝙢𝙞𝙡𝙞𝙖𝙧 voice instead of a 𝕋𝕖𝕣𝕣𝕚𝕗𝕪𝕚𝕟𝕘 one.

ok 2 things I think that the soul could be Kris', but the idea is that what is being possessed is not Kris body with other soul (becouse that means that Kris or doesnt have a soul or have 2, both are quite rare and i think contradicts evidence), but the soul it self, that red soul is Kris soul, but is controlled by someone else, and they need to take off their own soul that is corrupted to gain some control of his body, but probably this is hurtful, painful and/or dangerous and thats why he not only moves like that but also always take his soul back. I dont think that The possession is the weirdy Kris at the end of chapters not only that he acts out of character while he has his soul in but also they do thing that Kris doesnt like or want to do, like when he Play the piano and becouse the "person" doesnt know how to play it and Sussie make fun of him Kris is angry. And second thing. I think that the player theory is not thaaaat far away but i think it has a twist (this idea can also be aplied to Undertale). The player is not a in world character that controls the protagonist. The player is a player that plays as a uknown entity that is a in world character that controls the protagonist. sounds weird but i think that make sense, that soul is not the player's soul, Gaster doesnt talk with you, and any four wall indirects (or directs) arent really breaking it, but speaking with the entity. Maybe this entity wanted to have a body but Gaster couldn't give it to him, if you see, the intro, is not like the narrator throw out all of what you did, but another character with other font and another way of speaking (see half bread chaos and his japannese translations videos of deltarune.) great video

#Weird Theory!! Tody is very literal; like 'detarmination' = not terminated or "kill". What If Soul = shoe 'soles'? ( damn.. not spelled correctly but still) what is your 'soul' is what you walk around in? What you control? Does anyone else got any hooking theories to this or is this supporting for anything? Ty, n' Good Day, if it's day! (Edit: ig that would be the 'player theory's? Idk)

Fantastic opening

12:18 You cut out the part where Flowey very distinctly calls you Chara, at the end of the speech. This is something rather important. Could you explain why you opted to exclude it?

Flowey has commited the worst possible sin. Using Twitter