> cloned himself to have a harem of daughter-wives > owns like 25% of all Daedric artifacts, let's people steal them for fun > casual friends with the last remaining Dwemer > has one of only 2 sets of Daedric armor in Morrowind > Highly respected council member of House Telvanni, doesn't even care about it > was such a good slave owner that his slave stuck around, is deathly loyal to him > casually tries to cure an incurable disease as a side project > grew his own house from a mushroom > no stairs in his house, levitate or git gud > Despite his ancient age, and being a Dunmer, he's actually really chill with everyone The only reason the Nerevarine is the protagonist is because Divayth Fyr is busy doing some crazy shit.
Collecting so many gems it would take months to be able to sell them all. So you just have a pile of them in each house and some are so big it crashes your game to enter your front door. 😅
Out of all the protagonists, he has an advantage: Containers respawn in Skyrim. In Morrowind, once you've looted everything, that's it, no more. All you can do is kill cliffracers and guars.
@@tristanwallen5225I got 2.4 million I’ve only been to high hrothgar to finish some shouts and start the Dragonborn dlc I looted every drauger every crypt every urn every chest grabbed every scroll I could find every spell book I haven’t learned and stored it in a chest and saved so much loot then sold all of it I’ve also finished both thieves guild dark brother hood and college of winterhold quests I’m explaining this cause I don’t want people to think I cheated I have mods but I only use a room I have for a portable storage I can also loot the dragur armor which sells for a lot so while it’s not a normal Skyrim playthrough it’s not cheating
It's not very smart from a business point of view though as it's only a matter of time before his Tennants are priced out of what they can afford to pay
Thonar Silver-Blood also suffers from the rare affliction known as "not being essential", so after him thanking us for cleaning out Cidhna Mine, he tends to stumble and have a weird accident down the long stairs..
6:00 this is because there was no listener for the dark brotherhood for god knows how long, and due to the way the black sacrament works (night mother hears your plea, and speaks only to the listener), it may seem like the dark brotherhood is incompetent, but they quite literally cant recieve contracts via the black sacrament (nobody knows this though, including maven), i dont actually know how they end up recieivng contracts in skyrim prior to the arrival of the nightmother and the dragonborn becoming the listener, and maybe thats just an oversight xD
I believe they go out of their way to say it's just been through word of mouth that the sacrament was performed, which is ridiculous because performing it should be illegal in and of itself So the person should be in jail by the time they find out
They know when they hear rumors about it. Like, everyone and their mother knew that Aventus Aretino was doing the black sacrement and Muiri tell everyone in Markarth that she wanted to kill someone lmao. Maven was doing the sacrement in secret, so the DB never heard ot it.
Hearsay. They were on their way to do Aventus's contract because it was pretty well known he was doing the Sacrement, you just got there first because you weren't locked up in a secret hole somewhere.
That's nothing to my Dragonborn that has desecrated every burial tomb in the province. Oh, and also runs a farm that over the course of my playthrough, has singlehandedly earned me over 200,000 gold. That, on top of what my wife gives me from her nonexistent store, and the 2000 gold I get from my deadra merchant who buys all the potions I make from said farm and crops I grow. Only 2000 bc by the time I'm done crafting potions, it's hundreds of them and I am not gonna waste the time traveling the province 10 times over just to sell them all
That's nothing. With 2 or more of the same scrolls, Fallopian, my Oblivion character, can throw a sword on the ground and turn it into many. Infinite wealth.
Don't forget that Midas almost died because all his food and drink also turned to gold. And what good is a chest of infinite money, if nobody want's to fight in your war, no dock has the materials to repair your ships and no merchant the steel to equip your army.
Yeah, Tiber accumulated more filthy lucre than Midas could possibly touch even if he did nothing else. He is after all, one man, while Tiber is an Empire.
It’s called propaganda they want us to think the rich are evil so that we won’t seek to be rich, saying things like money is the root of all evil. The actual verse says the love of money is the root of all evil, not money itself, and the majority of people who love to say money is the root of all evil tend to be anti-Christianity and anti-bible
Poor Skyrim merchants/mine owners dont even have a start to true wealth generating noble houses from High Rock like Duforts (owning entire island along Shipyards and merchant fleet in 2E) sadly we dont have any information about 4E Breton merchant and noble families
Good video man! Rant ahead! I got this video recommended to me like 8 times, and i kept thinking to myself, one more video and then ill watch it. Then RU-vid was like, "ah he doesn't want to watch this," and stopped giving me the recommendations. i had to manually search the title lol. Now I'm commenting on it to boost engagement.
@@masterneloth I think the Orc Butler is oblivios to the counts conditon. He would not bring that up to a stranger. Also its not said that in lore vampires don't eat also normal food. Evidence is also Vicente Valteris complaint about Marie Antoinettes cooking with garlic. So maybe only true blooded vampires can live without food or Serana was in magical coma.
@@mikeynth7919idk, as bad a rep Bethesda gets, their attention to minute details in all their games would lead me to believe Serena wouldn't use the eating bread animation if, in lore, she doesn't need to eat
By that logic, Arch mage travel is also up there. He has a chest that can duplicate alchemical ingredients. Including vampire dust. Which the completely useless vampire hunter gang buys for 250 septims each, giving the arch mage a passive income of 2500 per week.
Nice video. I really enjoyed it ^^ Also... I had an idea for another one. You did videos about the strongest vampires and werewolves. What about video about the strongest monster hunter?
@@masterneloth I can think about few more already. Like Mel Adrys or Gloria Fausta. Also Movarth was an vampire hunter before he was transformed into one
To put into perspective just how valuable daedric armor was in Morrowind: in the base game, the literal only way to get a full set of daedric armor was to kill Divayth Fyr. In the first and second DLCs they put a left shoulder pad and right shoulder pad just in two completely random spots so you could get the full set without killing an essential NPC (in 3 you could kill essential NPCs, but the game would tell you after "hey, that guy was important, if you don't revert save right now your file will be fucked up"). So the literal only way to get a full set was to ruin your save file.
i really love your vids bc they tend to be such niche questions that half the time ive never heard of a single character (my area of knowledge also tends to be very skyrim focused so that doesnt help lol)
Two things that you failed to mention is that Maven was from Cyrodil originally so likely does business there and her close proximity to Morrowind means that she likely does business there as well.
i would say Neloth Telvanni during the 4th era specifically since he is one of the few if not the only one who during the 4th era who can make magic staffs of high quality and its likely anyone who uses a magic staff in skyrim is probably holding a Neloth piece except the ones found in ancient nord tombs and Neloth canonically has collected massive numbers of ancient and valuable staffs including sanguins rose and skull of corruption at one point and probably even now and then sells valuable staffs he doesn't need, he also happens to be a grandmaster in the house with a mouth living in the Telvanni coast, and its very likely he has made very exquisite staffs on commission for very wealthy people throughout tamriel during his time
He is also a very talented and skilled master enchanter. And no doubt would in time create some very powerful artifacts of his own, especially if his life-extending heartstone research goes anywhere.
@@videocrowsnest5251 exactly so he probably has a pretty strong enchanting business to fund his research, he is responsible for 90% of the staffs we find on bandits and magic users and probably has a very select cliantel for his top shelf staffs. it wouldn't surprise me if he simply ships his staffs off to morrowind, cyrodiil through portals or even teleportation spells for income (and enchanted items including some staffs can be very expensive) and being one of the heads of the house he probably is swimming in personal wealth just by being on the councel of house Telvanni and being of the Telvanni family of said house and being a descendent of the house's founder, he probably also has a massive amount of wealth he also inherited and in morrowind he also had investments we can rule out the emperor Titus Meade II, and the Jarls since the empire is in decline and in lore this has greatly affected Skyrim's Economy as well as specific members of Jarl Elesif's thanes. Neloth and his skill and reputation he would have a lot of gold to fund his experiemnts just by selling staffs and enchanted goods as well as commissions for enchanting specific items which would fetch a high price also he probably takes a cut from his apprentice's sales of rare spell tomes. if you break down all the known investments of House Telvanni Neloth being from the Telvanni family and decendent of its founder. also Neloth has in the past been in the trade of buying and selling Dwemer items and relics. Neloth Telvanni is the best candidate for being the richest in all of tamriel because of the fact he is the head of the Telvanni council and of the core Telvanni family, he is a master enchanter and presumably been enchanting and selling enchanted items for 200 years or more is interest in buying and selling dwarven artifacts for the last 200 years, he is very likely very wealthy by the 4th era
@@HappyBeezerStudios yeah, i would assume most staffs would be either be a Neloth or a replication of his staff enchanting techniques. it wouldn't surprise me if the most of the most powerful mages use a Neloth rather than a poorly made staff so he likely has a monopoly on their sales so mr. Neloth Telvanni, i solute you and your ability to gain a monopoly on staff creation and sales through out the empire and morrowind. i wouldn't be surprised if his Mouth was running the sales part in morrowind as a side buisness while representing Neloth in the Telvanni council, his name does carry a lot of weight as if i remember right he is the head house Telvanni since the nereverine appeared
If we take the… silly little book known as the Sonni-etta as somewhat cannon (if forum posts by past devs count that is) Reman had the Amulet of kings in his forehead and could use his man milk to bake bread. So I think that counts as a form of wealth
The last dragonborn ofcourse. Having daedric artifacts. House in every hold. The loot of every burial chest. Giant pile of every gem, gold amd silver ignots (and moonstone if that count) , every faction armor and heirloom, stalhrim , pile of dragonbones. And does dragonsouls have price. Also ariels bow and shiels and those giant egg like gems. Well we can keep goin on
Probably not the richest either, but I'd like to mention the Volkihar family, who are pretty obviously wealthy and if I remember correctly it's implied Serana is older than the septim dynasty. Would also say that maybe Knight Paladin Gelebor or his brother are the richest, because while technically they probably don't do business with anyone, they basically have the entire forgotten vale and legacy of the snow elves to themselves.
Usually me after spending 528 weeks sleeping in my home to refill the local shops bank account enough to stop the lag when I open that chest in my house
So... becoming a Master alchemist and selling illicit substances to the people of Skyrim while evading the law? Because Ysolda is kinda that. Sleeping Tree Sap is a technically legal substance in Skyrim, and she's the only person who sells it (aside from those random encounter drug dealers).
I have a mod that allows you to make high grade skooma in cooking pots and I have a chest room that allows duplicates, i made a drug dealer character who supplies skooma only to people who seem kinda shady by like 300 bottle shipments, started out by just stashing everything in a sack in the ratway vaults (because it doesn’t reset) before moving in as a member of the fields guild, did the skooma quest with the vampire den and took over there I reckon I have about 25000 skooma bottles if not more stashed around Skyrim and I just bought the riften home so if I ever return to that playthrough then that’s certainly where my operation will be running from, for rp I used to run the skooma trade in cyrodil and they began taking down my huge network so I fled to Skyrim before I could be caught joined the thieves guild and swiftly set up my skooma operation under mavens nose. I know they’d get suspicious, so I keep 50 bottles of high grade skooma and 500 nightshade and moon sugar (ingredients) in a chest so they can see I’m making skooma but the majority of the product gets kept in the ratway vault, the crimson den and now my home, with barrel stashes around whiterun and solitude, I tried to make my character very paranoid because he’s recently got busted and he doesn’t trust anybody convinced there was a leak
I love watching these videos with the head cannon that the Elder Scrolls Neloth somehow got into our reality, discovered technology, then took some and was sent back to Tamriel, starting a RU-vid channel lol
It's actually my OC who was Tiber Septim's borther who actually did all of the things that tiber did but his brother took the credit so he actually had all the wealth and stuff and was super ocool.
Janus Hassildor, Count of Skingrad. He just kept giving me infinite money when I completed his quest like it was nothing, which implies he has infinite money, I certainly never found the end of it.
The Psijic Order is the richest organization. The empires coffers pales to contents of the Vault of Maowita. The Vault of Maowita contains an enough artifacts to undo Aetherius. Some of the artifacts are Daedric in origin and some come from Sloads, Maomer, or even Tamriel itself. I speculate they also have an Elder Scroll just because they can. Not to mention they also can create magical items.
None of the skyrim npcs you mentioned should even be on this list? Even in Skyrim there are npcs that are far wealthier: Harkon, Paarthunax, Amaund Motierre, the Psijic monks (possibly the 2nd richest in nirn after getting the eye of magnus, but still extremely wealthy, only beaten by Tiber Septim in his ownership of the Numidium and heart of lorkhan). Also to be mentioned is Umbacano in Oblivion, the last Ayleid and Mankar Camoran owning his own plane of oblivion. Also the Ideal masters were mortals so rich and cunning that they stole their own pseudo godhood.
Actually, it's Jubal-lun-Sul. After the destruction of Nirn in the Fifth Age, his Ghost Hands allowed him to CHIM the hell out of reality, so even Orgnum's Coffer is meaningless before the guy that talked Numidium to death and wanked the Universe from beyond the fourth wall.
What about grandmaster Pl'a-yer who is able to influence time, life, death, and the material plane itself and is able to create infinite amounts of whatever is wanted, to such an extend that the world itself can cease to exist.
When playing Elder Scrolls Daggerfall, I thought I was the King of the World...when I bought My first house. Only to be arrested 5 minuets later, when I tried to camp in My house. I learned real quick, I was NOT the King of anything.
I am the richest. I ask Elenwen when we were in morrowind for a small loan of 1millon spetims. When the hero of kavatch came knocking in chorrol. I had him send my paument, in tripple, back to Elenwen in skyrim so she could build the embassy outside solitude. The best part is Elenwen maid the nords pay for it in the end and we split the Spetims between both of us.
Hear me out… Lord Harkon at some point owned two elder scrolls and was gunning for a third. I’m not sure how valuable the physical constructs of space time are, bit I feel like it might be a non-insignificant number.
The finest clothes worn by Jarls are 50 gold a piece. I have 50k gold in a random chest in Breezehome at level 20. I am the richest person in Skyrim. I often have tens of thousands of coins worth of potions in my inventory at any given time.
Didn't Abnur Tharn literally profit off of molag bal's schemes during the soulburst in the 2nd era while also being high chancellor and overlord of Nibenay? He had a mansion in hell and was way too rich that he refused all sorts of payment after saving Elsweyr from dragons even stronger than Alduin and were ascending to the moon to attain immortality and eradicate all life in Tamriel
Yeah, Tiber accumulated more filthy lucre than Midas could possibly touch even if he did nothing else. He is after all, one man, while Tiber is an Empire.
The two astronauts with gun meme - The Coffer model in Legacy of the Dragonborn is a LotD original? Ice Cream Assassin, also in a space explorer outfit ""always has been" (shivs Nate with a Stahlrim spoon)
(Divayth fyr) after you finish his part of the main quest line if you have enough potions of health absorb spell and reflect spell you can kill him and take his armor
All houses, all mounts, more left over gear than every merchant in the land can afford, and enough gold to buy the entire inventory of every npc 100 times over.....the Dragonborn.
If one WERE to include elder scrolls protagonists, it could be done by just rating the wealth of the leaders of all the factions the protagonist CAN be the leader of, assuming the protagonist canonically does everything they can in the game, and then adding up all the totals and you get a starting point for their canonical wealth.
I think the easiest way to definitively answer the question is to ask another question... What's the proper name for the coinage? You certainly don't see people trading "Orgnums".
There is no documentation about how the currency on Pyandonea was called. Septims are only colloquially called that because Tiber Septim had his face printed on them, it's not the official name of the currency (cf. how we nowadays call the 100$ bill a Ben because of the picture of Ben Franklin on it).
The last Dragonborn, leader of the dark brotherhood, the thiefs guild, the collage in winterhold, the vampires/dawnguard, the companions... Knows all shouts, all magic, killed Aldui, Mirrak, Harkon, all dragon priests, countless dragons, owns every purchaseable property, had connections to countless rich people, etc etc... Owns all deadric Artifacts, knows all of the forbidden knowledge... Casually gives full enchanted legendary deadric armor to his followers.... And I am not even CLOSE to saying everything... And yeah, im talking about my dragonborn who has all skills maxed in skyrim. (I dont say that he is THE richest, cuse sadly you cant take over Tamriel in skyrim... Even tho my dragonborn is definitly more powerful than tiber septim.)
The answer is clearly the Dragonborn as even without gold farming with crafting or counting official Creation Club content, they hold almost as much land and property as a Jarl and this is all held personally instead of in a company, and likely have a decent amount of wealth beyond property even if you assume just exploring the world and doing all their quests. Now sure I'll give you the False Nevarrine and Hero of Sheogoroth are harder to get an idea. Plus one of these just disappeared from history and clearly didn't stay in Morrowind and the other is a Deadric Prince now so wealth is kind of moot when you rule a realm of Oblivion. ---------------- Elsewise I almost feel like Janus runs afoul of your no guild/bussiness wealth rule, considering most of his assets are Skingard assets not personal. Divayth Fyr I also feel like we currently can't say since we don't know how much of his stuff survived the Red Year. King Orgnum also falls victim of the state wealth vs personal wealth issue. Vadam Dren as well, leader of a Dunmer House is again either akin to a state/guild. Not to mention House Hlaalu was hit hard by the Red Year and the Empire abandoning Morrowind, so any such wealth even if he lived still is massively lessened. Though you did at least mention this. Tiber Septim as well is massively conflating State Wealth and personal wealth.
Im surprised there was no mention of Velehk Sain. Who doesn't love pirates, especially a Dremora pirates? He supposedly amassed a massive cache of wealth before being sealed away. He ruled over an entire sea, for frick sake
Daedric armor being the best isn’t inconsistent at all, even in Skyrim it has a higher base armor rating. Dragon bone weapons have higher damage, but daedric armor is better than dragon plate
The main issue is really the Armor Cap, which means smithed (not talking multi looping to make godly smithing potions) easily hit the effective armor cap, where going over 600 is only effective in severe niche conditions of running into an NPC with mace perks. What he's talking about inconsistent is how much of status symbol certain tiers are and the weird question of how glass and ebony (by extension deadric) aren't through the roof expensive in post Morrowind games when its supposed to be hard to find glass and ebony outside Morrowind, let alone learn how to properly smith it.
You can guess how much gold each mc has… and by that logic vestige is richest because they have the most possible quests and earn the most gold through their journey of doing everything by FAR
I am obviously the richest person on Tamriel. who else is so rich, that daedric artefacts are used as wall decorations and the basement is full of gold ore and jewelry, as I'm simply too lazy to bring them somewhere and wait for merchents to have the money to buy them.
Wouldn't the richest character be Hermious Mora? He knows how to make an infinite amount of Orgnum's coffers and if he really wanted to, would own everything every other daedric prince had by virtue of knowing their true names. (Besides uncle Sheo, who's true name changes every day.) Heck, he probably knows a spell that allows him to midas touch nearly anything.
