Incineroar really isn't in the top 3 back throws if the move is used in the middle of the stage. Anyway, what do you want to see next? :) Also, I would like to give a shoutout to Reddit user Nachowcheese who did an amazing job at documenting the kill power and launch angles of hitboxes in Smash Ultimate.
@@joshdlt4586 well all big characters move slow ummmm but hit hard asf = and alot of take away points king dd, donkey Kong, Bower, Ridley, Charizard, etc.
Finally! Someone did their research and understands that Dedede’s Jet Hammer is strongest right before it’s fully charged and not at full charge. Huge respect!
Well that depend of what you call strongest, because it has the more knockback right before the full charge but deal only 35% instead of 48% at full charge.
Carlos Oramas Ramos as a Zelda player , I feel the difference is that Zelda Bair and Fair have tiny hit boxes, very very hard to land, and we get punished harshly if we didn’t land them, while other moves from characters like Ganon have a much bigger area to hit. Also Zelda doesn’t have good frame data either.
@@pre8jay436 that's undoubtedly true, but come on if you got hit Zelda up air it's like you got hit with Ganon up smash, we gotta at least hop to give out that up air and anytime we do it that's quite predictable.
By 1 percent, it's not that much better than Ike's which is faster. Byleth can break shields easier however, which is nice. Everyone loves a good shield break !
@@trippersigs2248 I wouldn't say any of them are bad. It would be nice to have a more traditional and safe fair or bair, but they aren't so hard to hit that they are bad.
@@YounesLayachi to be fair, Kirby is low tier, and a good amount of neutral B's aren't worth using, and the single best copy Kirby can get, monado arts, is actually nerfed compared to the buffs shulk gets.
Younes Layachi Like what? Most are simple projectile or super strong but slow moves, like falcon punch. Kirby has probably the best neutral b in the game, depending on matchup. Also, most characters don’t rely on neutral b to combo extend or anything like that.
Pichu: I bash my opponents with my skull with great force. However, it cause serious brain damage. Kirby: I use a fiery, supercharged hammer. However, some of my body parts catched on fire. Mr. Game & Watch: **b0nk**
Time to rank the top few characters. I’ll give characters one point for 2nd or 3rd and 2 points for first. Final Smash not included. Ganondorf- 11 points Pokémon Trainer- 7 points (3 Ivysaur, 4 Charizard) Zelda-6 points King Dedede- 5 points No one else got above 4
@@joseroldancolon2846 yeah, usually people read when people are going to smash attack but with bayo you can just read the smash attack because it takes forever to start up and if a falcon main parries the smash attack, he has enough time to falcon punch before bayo can do anything. Plus even if all of her combos can be deadly, what's the point of getting somebody to 200% and barely being able to kill?
@@nessfinesse3195 You're missing their point. You input F-Throw to get cargo, yes. But he used cargo BACK throw. He used a Back Throw in the Forward Throw category.
I think that was just to cancel the carry. I don't think DK can actually back throw after it, so it was to just stop from walking off the stage and killing earlier/later than you should. But I'm not a DK main, just what I think.
If you think about it like this, the main throw is forward. DK's forward throw is divided into sub categories (being up, down, back, and again forward, but are all under the main forward throw category. So overall, he has four forward throws. This is one of many logics so critique as you will.
So many people say that Mega Man has the best Final Smash and Nathaniel Bandy puts Lightning Chariot in 1st place because it 'kills earlier'. Dude, have you seen Marth and Lucina!?
I’m a Lucina main, and I was just waiting for my win at the final smash one, cause I know it’s impossible to win as Lucina against Marth in any other categories
Byleth's axe hits like a truck, but mostly does shield damage as opposed to actual knockback. Then things like up-smash and up-air don't actually kill that early (early enough for smash, because that is the whole point of a smash attack), but have large and lasting hitboxes.
You can tell how many times they had to get wack/thack to kill at 0 because of how far the mii moved from the middle of the stage to middle right of the stage
The king of darkness who in one timeline left an entire kingdom in ruin for a century and the koopa king who once became GOD were both bested by some fat penguin with a mallet.
Well, Dedede’s main friendly rival is an Eldritch God of War and Death. You do not underestimate Kirby under any circumstances. He easily has the strength to level a universe in his hands and will not hesitate to use it if you even make him drop a cake
@@yucatancallejero ganon may not be able to beat Kirby (from the top of my head only Steve can theoretically do that with maybe sephiroth) but he is likely canonically stronger than dedede
She does. I'm the one that made the documentation the pinned comment refers to, and haven't made public the 7.0 list, so they probably missed that change. Just know she now kills as early as incineroar ;)
So here are the winners for each move (watch the video for each of the percents and runner-ups): Side Smash: King Dedede Up Smash: Lucas Down Smash: Byleth Neutral Special: Roy/Chrom Side Special: Mr. Game & Watch Up Special: Ness Down Special: Hero Forward Throw: Donkey Kong Back Throw: Ness Up Throw: Charizard Down Throw: Ivysaur Neutral Air: Ganondorf Forward Air: Captain Falcon Back Air: Zelda Up Air: Zelda Down Air: Byleth Teather: Luigi Jab: Ken Side Tilt: Incineroar Up Tilt: Ganondorf Down Tilt: Mr. Game & Watch Dash Attack: King Dedede Final Smash: Marth/Lucina Congrats to all of the above for winning their respective move category! Sakurai would be proud!
oil panic, when filled up with something like samus's charge shot, should've been a contender for down-special. i'd love to see how early it'd kill mii swordie