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Who is the Strongest Character in Dragon Ball Z? 

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Vegito vs Gogeta, Gogeta vs Broly, Goku vs Vegito and other debates around the strongest character in the Dragon Ball anime have been going on for years now. Today I hope to answer this question and provide all the evidence for who is truly the most powerful character in the DBZ era of the franchise.
0:00 - Intro
1:32 - EOZ Goku
3:03 - Super Gogeta
4:03 - Broly
5:14 - Super Vegito
6:14 - Who wins?

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@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
Everyone knows its Hercule
@FrankieWooten-co5rg
@FrankieWooten-co5rg 5 дней назад
Nah kratos
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
@@FrankieWooten-co5rg Whats a polar bear doing in arlington texas????
@SipSop09
@SipSop09 5 дней назад
Naw man it's definitely Goku Jr.
@adeelshaikh8503
@adeelshaikh8503 5 дней назад
@@FrankieWooten-co5rg kratos gets stomped by kid buu
@adnanhi837
@adnanhi837 5 дней назад
Farmer with a shotgun is a close second
@xXSonTJXx
@xXSonTJXx 5 дней назад
Broly being carried by one off statements is hilarious
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
It’s very Broly of him
@peanutmurgler
@peanutmurgler 5 дней назад
Because they give him a very small sandbox to play in, and his playtime is only put to an end by plot convenience/contrivance.
@user-mq9ge1lq9w
@user-mq9ge1lq9w 5 дней назад
​@@lonkstakesHe is Videl level
@Telarius
@Telarius 5 дней назад
Not just statements tho. It's also feats. Which is more than most others. It shows him in Broly 1 destroying 1/4 the Universe. While restricted via the necklace so restricted SSJ at best. No legend form since it breaks the device. Restricted SSJ Broly was relative but able to be hurt by Base Goku while he was forcibly surpressed
@orbboom6119
@orbboom6119 5 дней назад
Bro got beaten by Super Saiyans bro i aint buying any of his glazing😂even if its by his creator
@thechadlordboros
@thechadlordboros 5 дней назад
Farmer with a shotgun: nah i’d win.
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
Stand proud Gogeta, you are strong
@kirbyof590stars
@kirbyof590stars 5 дней назад
⁠​⁠@@lonkstakes “Are these… tears?”
@DomiEE
@DomiEE 5 дней назад
@@kirbyof590stars good question, i wouldn't know that
@kaichisendou
@kaichisendou 5 дней назад
1. THE CHAMP 2. Farmer with a shotgun 3. Vegito 4. Arale
@logic-dy1su
@logic-dy1su 5 дней назад
Farmer with a shot gun Hercule Arale End of z goku
@a180combatbowsergamepro6
@a180combatbowsergamepro6 5 дней назад
arale beats all every character
@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot
@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot 5 дней назад
@@a180combatbowsergamepro6 End of Z Goku>Arale, stated by Toriyama
@a180combatbowsergamepro6
@a180combatbowsergamepro6 5 дней назад
@@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot never heard of that but it's wrong
@thebestcakegoku7346
@thebestcakegoku7346 4 дня назад
@@a180combatbowsergamepro6 its not
@isaaccuevas1717
@isaaccuevas1717 5 дней назад
You know what the craziest thing is,if we assume that broly destroyed south galexy as a suppressed super saiyan,and he’s stronger in every movie (yes he’s at his strongest in bio broly),and goten and trunks are even able to do something to him,the boys in bio broly low key are swapping hands with kid buu from the anime
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
Maybe. Broly is lowkey holding back the entire time in every movie
@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot
@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot 5 дней назад
@@lonkstakes Nah, Videl is universal you can't convince me otherwise.
@fellowmemer5693
@fellowmemer5693 5 дней назад
@@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot multiversal
@logic-dy1su
@logic-dy1su 5 дней назад
​@@lonkstakeshow was he holding back?
@logic-dy1su
@logic-dy1su 5 дней назад
Well it showed goten and trunks without trying was dodging and blocking multiple cell jr so i believe it
@dflenz7782
@dflenz7782 5 дней назад
i think you forgot about the strongest character in dragon ball period. The legend herself, Arale
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 5 дней назад
Nah. Goku scales above her
@dsm2417
@dsm2417 5 дней назад
@@crashtime3429 true
@JackRippa-bq9qo
@JackRippa-bq9qo 5 дней назад
The fact that toriyama wrote that mind fk of a character and went to say he couldnt think of anything stronger than the end of z powers. You could make the argument that goku is literally stronger than her
@Mexican1632
@Mexican1632 4 дня назад
​@@JackRippa-bq9qobut then it was retconed by the introduction of Beerus and whis.
@JackRippa-bq9qo
@JackRippa-bq9qo 4 дня назад
@@Mexican1632 i dont think it is bcz beerus is stated to just ignore gag powers in thesame ep goku fought arale
@obliviongigan6360
@obliviongigan6360 5 дней назад
I am pretty sure Janemba is also started to be the strongest villian in Z in one source.
@evilchild1851
@evilchild1851 5 дней назад
He mentions that while talking about Gogeta (in terms of movies), and the Buu statements in the film implies that
@tales9342
@tales9342 47 минут назад
Yeah but it doesn’t really make sense to put him on this list when Gogeta no diffed him
@boomtube7732
@boomtube7732 5 дней назад
Ultra Instinct Ego Vegitogeta. With tail.
@Speedpunk650
@Speedpunk650 5 дней назад
the name would be Gogito
@sergantanthony216
@sergantanthony216 5 дней назад
With his Ikari form.
@ethanclark100
@ethanclark100 2 дня назад
(Gohan absorbed)
@straytonox1492
@straytonox1492 8 часов назад
Sam sulek ultra ego lift
@amogus1415
@amogus1415 5 дней назад
Real truthers know broly is a janemba victim🗣🗣🔥🔥
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
I aint a truther then
@amogus1415
@amogus1415 5 дней назад
​@@lonkstakes Imo Mrperfectcell has a good video going over it,id recommend it
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 5 дней назад
Broly would obliterate jameba in his ssj form alone. Do you hear how foul his language is? Bro is more evil than janemba he would smash his face into a wall while telling him his mother dosen't love him. And dont get me started ong LSSJ oh nah even power wise lssj is stronger than janemba bust loses to gogeta because soul punisher or spirit bomb
@sev9258
@sev9258 5 дней назад
@@crashtime3429this is so cringey, and hard to understand.
@liammcguire1954
@liammcguire1954 5 дней назад
@@crashtime3429tell me you didn’t watch the movies without telling me you didn’t watch the movies. It’s true what they say. Dragon ball fans haven’t even seen their own show(in this case specifically, their own movies)
@JustSomeGokuEnjoyer2
@JustSomeGokuEnjoyer2 5 дней назад
Koyama try not to Glaze Broly Challenge(impossible) also remember that in Z Vegito has no timer so his fusion is infinite (thought its worth mentioning) also i completely agree that power scalers are just harassing Koyama and need to leave this man alone. I personally disagree with the ranking put in this video but i see where you are coming from.
@lmAndyYT
@lmAndyYT 5 дней назад
I ain't letting one random statement convince me Broly>Gogeta over what I seen in the movies that brother Broly is a fraud let Gogeta breathe on his stomach and he's toast
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
Its a bit more than a random statement but understandable lol
@Invisibleboy999
@Invisibleboy999 5 дней назад
Koyama is the one who wrote the db movies who are u to tell him hes wrong? If he says brolys the strongest character in z (at least in the movie universe) then he is idk why ppl wanna deny brolys strength
@lmAndyYT
@lmAndyYT 5 дней назад
@@Invisibleboy999 Broly could be the strongest if given more time but never got to that time he got defeated by a powered up ssj and 3 ssjs now that was Buu Saga but still not Gogeta at most he's mid to high Buu Saga strength I don't just go by statements from years ago I go by what literally was in the movie
@Invisibleboy999
@Invisibleboy999 5 дней назад
@@lmAndyYT i mean we never seen broly go all out so its not like the statements is contradicted
@lmAndyYT
@lmAndyYT 5 дней назад
@@Invisibleboy999 Him getting beat by super saiyans when he's possibly above Gogeta just doesn't fit to me you hit Gogeta with the son family kanemehameha and I doubt it does anything I think more is going against Broly is all
@kangrooo
@kangrooo 5 дней назад
I also think it's Vegito because if you really think about it, being turned into chocolate and still beating Buu's ass is just another level of swagger that can never be surpassed by power scalers and Koyamas glazing.
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 5 дней назад
Every DBZ character can do that above the power level of 10
@hadouradiance3566
@hadouradiance3566 4 дня назад
​@crashtime3429 ?? No they can't? That feat is UNIQUE to Vegito.
@thenerdywave2007
@thenerdywave2007 5 дней назад
Cool Video! 👍
@SipSop09
@SipSop09 5 дней назад
Buu's Dog is the strongest Don't lie to yourself You know it to be true
@jonolivier9126
@jonolivier9126 5 дней назад
We all know Bee is short for Beerus Level Threat.
@SipSop09
@SipSop09 4 дня назад
@@jonolivier9126 Just you wait 'till he trains, Black Frieza has got something coming
@LavaCreeperPeople
@LavaCreeperPeople 5 дней назад
Okay you see i will watch this video Also cool Thumbnail
@PapaJ608
@PapaJ608 5 дней назад
dragon ball legends
@extremelegendsupreme4596
@extremelegendsupreme4596 5 дней назад
This is gunna be interesting
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
It is!
@Don-fw3nv
@Don-fw3nv 5 дней назад
Fact that every character art in this thumbnail is drawn by Fenyo is hilarious
@TrueReverse74
@TrueReverse74 5 дней назад
My take 1. Gogeta 2. Vegito 3. Janemba Janemba's a dimension shifting entity turning the afterlife into a playground which is a higher realm altogether and bends space and matter at the drop of a hat, massively outscales a Goku who not only shook the afterlife but also traversed it with close to infinite levels of speed in base (or actually infinite if you believe the metal cooler movie happened, which is probably true) Gogeta wipes him out with ease and I have yet to see broly really show anything that's on par from with that. I'm not considering End of Z goku or Arale but it most likely End of Z Goku is above all in my headcannon.
@Jayy12298
@Jayy12298 6 часов назад
Vegito is weaker than Gogeta it’s already stated in multiple guides that
@GodGoji
@GodGoji 4 дня назад
One soul punisher and it’s wraps for Broly 😂
@Emoboiisgettingrizzzy
@Emoboiisgettingrizzzy 5 дней назад
Kid buu:nah I’d win
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
Pretty sure he'd go: "OOH OOH GRAHHH"
@EQ_Power-Plus
@EQ_Power-Plus 5 дней назад
@@lonkstakes maybe uub?
@jonolivier9126
@jonolivier9126 5 дней назад
Are we really saying Gogeta is weaker than Broly when his strongest Z appearance showed Goten and Trunks running hands with the worlds strongest Muk and _not_ imploding in one shot? And I don't know how much powerscalers care about theoretical possibilities, but even if Bio Broly is even remotely comparable to Super Gogeta, there really is no reason why Gogeta can't use Super Saiyan 2 or 3 and erase the fcker by cracking his knuckles with malicious intent.
@killersan6857
@killersan6857 5 дней назад
Fr I agree with vegito being the strongest but Brody over gogeta is just wild 😂
@trentswoodland
@trentswoodland 4 дня назад
Really good video but I'm surprised you didn't mention Hatchiyack or Arale. Since Hatchiyack is stated to be stronger than Broly (movie 8 at least) and Arale is... well Arale
@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot
@SergioRodriguez-bx3ot 5 дней назад
Go Vegito go Edit: Yayyy I'm happy althought I expected Broly to be the girst one out due to horrible feats.
@pokemonchampfloyd1926
@pokemonchampfloyd1926 5 дней назад
Hey Lonk whats your thoughts on Kid Buu vs Janemba?
@sashanksriram8942
@sashanksriram8942 5 дней назад
Yes yes. Thank you so much for agreeing that Vegito is the strongest. Fully agree with what you said.
@markopusic8258
@markopusic8258 5 дней назад
It's so impossible to scale DBZ Broly properly, that idiot has some absolutely wild feats only the Buu's come close to... and he gets defeated by regular Super Saiyans... twice. There is no argument strong enough to justify getting one shot on two separate occasions by infinitely weaker opponents unless you're actually not that stronger and that's how Broly's whole mythos falls apart. I do not believe he even stands a chance against SSJ3 Angel Goku, let alone end of Z Goku.
@nathanharnett9185
@nathanharnett9185 5 дней назад
Bio broly is NOT the Strongest version of Z Broly. Second Coming Broly one shots Bio Broly. Hell even first movie broly wins 1. Who he fought: Ssj goten, Ssj trunks, Android 18 and KRILLIN (None of these characters are teen gohan level and first movie broly destroyed him. Also bio broly is always in LSSJ. In bio broly they are seen making bio broly cough blood while they were deal zero damage to Super Saiyan Broly in second coming (And there is no way goten and trunks got a zenkai so bullshitingly large that in bio broly they are as strong a ssj2 gohan). And Ssj Broly is stronger than ssj buu saga goku as stated by guides and daizenshus. And second coming broly manhandled a ss2 gohan who never stopped training after cell, Remember second coming gohan and buu saga gohan are different timelines. goten and trunks are nowhere near second coming ssj2 gohan.) 2. The Guides and daizenshus often compare Bio Broly to first movie broly. (More specifically Restrained Super Saiyan Broly from the first broly movie) 3. The back of the Bio Broly movie box does not state Bio Broly is the Strongest Saiyan in history. The whole "Strongest Saiyan in history" bit is referring to Broly. Not Bio Broly specifically. All the back of the box states is that he has new powers. In conclusion the whole "Bio Broly is stronger than Second Coming Broly" is a complete and utter lie.
@notacat284
@notacat284 5 дней назад
Lord slug of course
@user-adrsilva123
@user-adrsilva123 5 дней назад
Yo Lonk’s takes! Don’t want to rush you but please do can Guts(Berserk) beat Homelander and the Seven! Video
@Qhther
@Qhther 5 дней назад
You should also do a video considering the POTENTIAL of the strongest. Like Buu is potentially the absolute strongest considering his ability to absorb.
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
I already did
@kingtiger5045
@kingtiger5045 17 часов назад
vegito IS JUST HIM bro.
@scooter9764
@scooter9764 4 дня назад
you could argue EOZ goku over vegito by saying that base goku is equal if not greater than ssj3 goku from the kid buu fight through his fight with uub (depending on if you think uub is equal to kid buu or if you think goku is holding back against uub) vegito is stated to be equal in base to ssj3 goku from the buu arc. with this you could say that goku got at least 400 times stronger over the time skip making him equal to base vegito and has higher transformations (as far as we know. vegito probably has access to ssj2 and ssj3 they are just never shown) there is an even better case for EOZ goku if you think fusion is A + B x 100 = C which would make vegito only equal to 200x goku as opposed to 400x in base if you think goku and vegeta are relative in the buu arc
@Dk_P20
@Dk_P20 2 часа назад
Are you going to do a episode on if goku can beat any of this video game character and more specific saiyan saga goku
@AJTheSilence
@AJTheSilence 3 дня назад
Here's a random fun fact Gogeta has Vegeta's hairline and Vegito has Goku's hairline
@OldManInternet
@OldManInternet 2 дня назад
I was toying with the idea of EoZ Goku being the strongest, because of how crazy the power boosts are between arcs. So a 10 year skip of Goku getting that next powerup plus having time to try and master SSJ3 like he did SSJ1&2 should be significant. However, the main issue is that nothing happens in those 10 years. So while there would be story arc boosts, most of the significant powerups come from a conflict. Because of the significance in the story, it feels like Vegito should be #1 over the movie characters. That's strictly from a "feels over facts" standpoint, but I'm glad an argument can be made to back it up.
@PredsjednikGustavo._
@PredsjednikGustavo._ 5 дней назад
Tori Bot is true answer
@bigyoshi5170
@bigyoshi5170 5 дней назад
Monaka is obviously the strongest
@ETERNAL_9000
@ETERNAL_9000 5 дней назад
He's from super smart ahh
@bigyoshi5170
@bigyoshi5170 5 дней назад
@@ETERNAL_9000Monaka was in DBZ, he was just too fast for anyone to actually see him there.
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 5 дней назад
On god. Monaka ain't not bitch that mf throws hands with Mickey mouse.
@dabotbruh2555
@dabotbruh2555 5 дней назад
hercule would slam that fodder
@ShockedTaiLung
@ShockedTaiLung 5 дней назад
Obviously its Arale
@Thegreatlordofall
@Thegreatlordofall 5 дней назад
Thought it was gonna be broly for a second But i forgot you had vegito as your pfp This must be the reason This also means vegeta MEGA sold in the buu arc as if they were vegito they could've probably one shot kid buu 😭 W vid though fr
@theperfectbeing765
@theperfectbeing765 5 дней назад
Great video man but we all know the strongest is demon King dabura
@GurrenPrime
@GurrenPrime 5 дней назад
Overall very well reasoned arguments. I have trouble seeing Broly as being that high up, personally, due to his questionable win-loss record, but I suppose the whole “he lost because he was arrogant” thing kinda explains it. Which means that funny enough the ones below him on the list should reasonably be able to beat Broly despite the power difference.
@BigJohn303
@BigJohn303 4 дня назад
Arrogance is the downfall of all dbz villains to be fair. And also plot armor is what saves the heroes.
@Zeroaddy
@Zeroaddy 5 дней назад
What about Hatchiyack? He is stated to be stronger than broly
@metal42
@metal42 5 дней назад
Only stronger than Movie 8 Broly, Movie 10 Broly is much stronger.
@rodthedigger2902
@rodthedigger2902 5 дней назад
Great video! Vegito is number 1.
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
Usual Rod W
@Ares_-JM
@Ares_-JM 5 дней назад
Arale*
@MonkeBrain07
@MonkeBrain07 3 дня назад
DB anime power scaling is fucking wild. This is why I stick to the manga...
@drj894
@drj894 5 дней назад
Good video man The one I disagree with is broly cause personally due to his feats and his statements being a bit iffy not to throw shade or anything don’t harass people that ain’t cool but I’m fine with putting him above eoz goku but I don’t think he’s above gogeta but this is my opinion you can disagree idc
@damianm8960
@damianm8960 5 дней назад
Lets not forget about Arale, using her for scaling can make the 4 of them even more cracked. Cuz if all of them are stronger than her, then they could bully Tori-Bot and rewrite the narrative. Its fine if ya dont wanna include this tho, but just a potential thing to use to make them stronger, lolz
@MildsandThatYac
@MildsandThatYac 6 часов назад
Yea that would put them wayyyyy over the top seeing how she can just literally transcend her own manga
@Ryng98
@Ryng98 5 дней назад
Bro PLEASE, link of the fanart of Gogeta from the thumbnail????
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
It’s from dragon ball legends and the Vegito art is from Fenyo
@Ryng98
@Ryng98 5 дней назад
@@lonkstakes thanks.
@LemonDrop-zt9xx
@LemonDrop-zt9xx 5 дней назад
Either Tori-Bot or his editor.
@TomasBregman
@TomasBregman 4 дня назад
I would personally rank it Goku Broly Super Gogeta Super Vegito
@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap
@UnlimitedRadioButNoSoap 5 дней назад
weren't broli in the pod the strongest? i thought he was weakened after he got c※mmed on
@emmanuellewis6451
@emmanuellewis6451 5 дней назад
is hirudegarn able to beat anyone you've shown in the video?
@JoseC687
@JoseC687 День назад
Hirudegarn seems to be stronger than even the likes of Ultimate Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks. SSJ3 Goku in Wrath of The Dragon seems to be substantially stronger.
@JoseC687
@JoseC687 День назад
So that would probably put Hirudegarn > Buuhan > Super Buu >= Kid Buu.
@TheOneAndOnlyZN
@TheOneAndOnlyZN 5 дней назад
The contradictions with narratives and guides is why they aren't applicable in my opinion regarding this topic. I think if these things are consistent, they are the strongest form of argument. But when they aren't, you have to at least try and use cross verse scaling. Yes, they all have somewhat universal feats but you could always ask who can do it the most casual, just as an example. I don't think you have to get into that, however, as I think the most fair interpretation is to see how far each universe is in their own continuity. Broly would simply go last here no question. Vegito and Gogeta are questionable because Vegito is the stronger fusion but Fusion Reborn is post Buu arc meaning Goku and Vegeta are at least somewhat stronger than in the Buu arc. But end of Z goku with 10 YEARS? Z Goku, using the logic dragon ball has always implemented regarding the growth of characters, wipes the floor with everyone else here. The only argument would be maybe Fusion Reborn takes place years after the Buu saga but I'm not sure that there's really any evidence for that. So end of Z Goku wins hands down. But it's all up to interpretation since if narrative and guides are included end of Z goku probably has the worst case, as previously mentioned.
@godoftune
@godoftune 8 часов назад
1. Technically beerus since hes in battle of gods which is a z movie. 2. Super gogeta from fusion reborn 3. Vegito 4. Janemba 5. Buuhan 6. Z broly 😎😎😎
@no.12papangkornkaewklad27
@no.12papangkornkaewklad27 4 дня назад
1st vegito 2nd gogeta 3rd janemba 4th kid buu
@TomokoTheIdiot
@TomokoTheIdiot 5 дней назад
Told yall it’s Vegito but yall ain’t wanna listen looking at you Gogeta fans
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
I've tried to let them know
@TomokoTheIdiot
@TomokoTheIdiot 5 дней назад
@@lonkstakes you’re a real one for this
@don83030
@don83030 8 часов назад
I'm a bit confused, if janemba is the strongest Z movie villain then how can Broly be stronger than Gogeta?
@augustusstamer2428
@augustusstamer2428 5 дней назад
Ignoring statements, who do you think is the strongest via feats alone?
@Cinnamoroll842
@Cinnamoroll842 3 дня назад
It makes sense how Goku never surpasses Vegito. Cuz Vegito is a fusion and fusions are always stronger😮
@yourdemiseishere
@yourdemiseishere 5 дней назад
Gogeta punisher is only so effective because he was made out of negative energy, basically cancelled them out. It's weird they use it as a generic blast but fanservice is fanservice.
@kirbyof590stars
@kirbyof590stars 5 дней назад
“As the strongest farmer, Goat with a shotgun, fought the fraud, the Potara fusion, he began to open up his Domain. Fraudgito shrunk back in fear, then Farmer said… “Stand proud, Vegito. You are strong.”
@the_moon_gazer
@the_moon_gazer 5 дней назад
Everyone knows it's the farmer smh
@Wutizgoing
@Wutizgoing 4 дня назад
Didn't Goku legit beat Broly in hell during the Bio-Broly movie? And like... Broly is canon in Fusion Reborn because Paragus showed up? Goku (Fusion Reborn) > Broly. Even if we include Pikkon assistance, which fair, that's like... two SSJ2-Tier characters vs Broly. Arguably SSJ3 + SSJ2-Tier character. Janemba whopped an SSJ3 and was too much for Goku and Vegeta. Resulting in a fusion. Going off of the movies, Gogeta absolutely curbstomps, embarrasses, and humbles Broly. He'd go from the LSSJ to "Yes sir. Sorry sir." After one elbow to the nose. Vegito vs Gogeta is debatable and heavily depends on how much stronger the movie versions are than the manga versions. So, I have no comment on that. Also I've seen people claim the person who made those Broly statements was bias towards Broly... no clue how accurate that is-
@Buster84
@Buster84 5 дней назад
“Janemba is the strongest movie villain” So, Vegito > Gogeta > Janemba > Broly ?
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
Its very telling that the Janemba strongest statement was deleted from the website imo
@Buster84
@Buster84 5 дней назад
@@lonkstakes It’s fine I’m used to being wrong 😩
@user-ff1tx4ol2e
@user-ff1tx4ol2e 5 дней назад
I think it is Whis, since Battle of Gods is considered part of Z.
@he_who_has_no_name
@he_who_has_no_name 4 дня назад
You didn't watch the video before making this comment, did you?
@thedevilsleutice
@thedevilsleutice 2 дня назад
I have an arguement for my main man Goku end of Z. The power of Plot Armor is underrated.
@sadflounder2422
@sadflounder2422 3 дня назад
This list isnt even considering the fact that vegito and gogeta could both easily go super saiyan two and three. Im not sure if the same applies to broly but its just something that gogeta fans can cope about
@digiing1992
@digiing1992 2 дня назад
If we talk about GT Uub who has been trained by Goku for years I could see a case for EoZ Goku's strenght, but people thinking that the malnourished Z Uub with no prior proper battle experience WHATSOEVER has the same strenght as Kid Buu (= SSJ3) is not just reaching, its plainly delusional. But who cares, right? With the placement of DBS being before EoZ as an excuse its difficult to say that EoZ Goku couldn't technically be the strongest character. The problem is though, and everyone can correct me on this, does the EoZ we know of even happen after the Super Hero arc, because honestly, I haven't seen anything indicating that to be 100% be the case yet. Why did Dragon Ball had to become so jumbled up with their continuities. I'm still hopeful for Daima which takes place between the defeat of Kid Buu and Beerus waking up. After that? I don't even know if there will be more Dragon ball unless maybe as games, since Japan has a tradition of honouring the closure of things when their creator leaves the world...
@qtindavis433
@qtindavis433 5 дней назад
i thought it was ultimate gohan and didnt know youd use movies and fusions.
@crashtime3429
@crashtime3429 5 дней назад
We all know it's end of z goku if we are being real. You said that if uub was likely around kid buus level and goku is able to match that power in base holding back he is easily stronger than the other forms of Buu. Given that uub both in kakarot and the manga pushed Goku to start to get a serious in base (ground fight) it's pretty obvious that uub is around if not stronger than kid buus level by being part human in having siblings and magical power on top of that. If goku hasn't surpassed super Vegito in the Buu saga thats honestly just sad and not believable tbh. Goku has yes, while in peace time, been training for TEN years straight. And even with the singular statement saying vegito was the strongest in history, that is not valid if we're counting ALL of DB (ignoring BoG and RoF) Now Dr.slump is in the dragon ball verse with arale having the same insane feats of just doing whatever she wants in her own story in both shows. If we are going off manga strictly then its def End of Z Goku, as Kid Buu, while still weaker than base Vegito, is around the same uub who temporarily matched a base Goku holding back. If we say base vegito in the Buu saga is stronger than goku's base that's fine but the pure power multiplier for ssj3 is insane and I dont think you know how badly goku would shit on Vegito. Vegito (Buu) = or > Base Goku EOZ Super Vegito (Buu) >> Base Goku EOZ Super Vegito (Buu)
@Ciraque.
@Ciraque. 5 дней назад
Bro it's Farmer With A ShotGun. He's just holding back his true power.
@shmelzy82
@shmelzy82 2 дня назад
wait isn’t super vegito stated to be only galaxy level at most which is the same as base broly?
@vegetalover9297
@vegetalover9297 3 дня назад
Fun Fact BoG is a DBZ Movie so the answer is Whis
@jungs13
@jungs13 3 дня назад
you didnt watch the video didnt you
@infinitiy215
@infinitiy215 11 часов назад
Z broly is the equivalent of kid buu if he was a sayian and on meth and Crack and out for the taste of blood
@kamikazehound3243
@kamikazehound3243 4 дня назад
Fun funises, in the general scheme of the dragonball universe, Veghan is the strongest mortal character. Think about it, Beast Gohan can get stronger by letting more anger out while Ultra Ego Vegeta gets stronger from damage. We can assume that ultra ego works like ultra instinct as a technique not a transform while beast is a transformation so it is possible that like goku stacked ui on super sayian, then Veghan could stack stack ue on beast making a deadly combination that could out put other fusions.
@baileejohnson9968
@baileejohnson9968 5 дней назад
Was about to say whis but i didnt watch the video for long. oof
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
I precoged you, sorry 😭
@baileejohnson9968
@baileejohnson9968 5 дней назад
@@lonkstakes lol
@user-qd4yn8pq6s
@user-qd4yn8pq6s 5 дней назад
The guy who is hinted to seal elder Kai
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
I mean Elder kai implies that guy is weaker than kid buu 😭
@user-qd4yn8pq6s
@user-qd4yn8pq6s 5 дней назад
Oh yeah, I’m gonna actually tell you a spoiler that guy has an ability where if an opponent is stronger than him he gets stronger than them you’re asking does he train? No he just got stronger.
@seawarrior954
@seawarrior954 5 дней назад
@@lonkstakes I think it was Fat Buu actually lmao
@Chickfillaforlife
@Chickfillaforlife 5 дней назад
even though I glaze Gogeta harder than the Goku glazer I have to respect that Vegitio is the strongest in Z.
@vegetalover9297
@vegetalover9297 3 дня назад
it's Whis
@100-People
@100-People 5 дней назад
Have you seen Atari HMB’s scaling DB cosmology?
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 5 дней назад
No I havent. Is it good? bad?
@100-People
@100-People 5 дней назад
@@lonkstakes I think he provides good evidence for what his take, getting up to like 10D I will say I don’t think EVERY argument is 100% sound, but I think he brings up pretty good points for it imo
@mowthemowanimations193
@mowthemowanimations193 5 дней назад
Is this not including super scaling? Because if it is it's EOZ Goku
@MwateKawanje-uh9su
@MwateKawanje-uh9su 4 дня назад
If you refuse to use koyama statements and scaling dragon Ball I refuse to use koyama statements in scaling broly. In the movies yes very much koyama is the most valid person within the movies.
@jordanglasper1064
@jordanglasper1064 9 часов назад
Dats crazy puttin Goku last. Even so, Dragon Ball super actually makes Goku so much more powerful. That end of the Goku’s is basically God to your power level approaching angelic power level in his base form. And Uub is stronger than this version of Goku. all Goku needs to do is transform and it puts him way above Uub. But still.. The fusion warriors Vegito and Gogeta have character flaw. They don’t take the fight as seriously as they should, due to that somethings going to happen. Broly is the strongest in his movie, not throughout the entire movie verse. It’s no different than when Stanley was alive and he said that every single marvel superhero was his favorite. It’s under that and people are taking that seriously in regards to the person Koyama. It’s not that he did the same thing but he’s talking about Broly in the same type of way. He supposed to promote it he supposed to say nothing but positive things about it because he was primarily involved with the project of movie Broly DBZ Broly to be specific.
@YourFreund
@YourFreund 4 дня назад
Yall really slacking on Goditz
@Usiic
@Usiic 5 дней назад
Beerus.
@BasedKuuTooGourmet
@BasedKuuTooGourmet 5 дней назад
Before video: my answer is End of Z Goku, Kid Buu and Vegito.
@abdullahalhanif3551
@abdullahalhanif3551 4 дня назад
I’m pretty sure that janemba was also called the strongest villain in the movies. Putting him above Broly who got dominated by two kids. Not to mention Gogeta literally one taps that dude. Now Vegito and Gogeta well…. Imo they are equal cause the Toriyama said that more than once but putting Broly above Gogeta feels like a crime
@fulsted7167
@fulsted7167 5 дней назад
Janemba has statements of being the strongest movie villain as well tho. You could argue him being #2
@na5567
@na5567 5 дней назад
Could the z fighters ward off the coming of Galactus? If he replaced the sayains Golden Freeza, Moro CellMax?
@sev9258
@sev9258 5 дней назад
No
@na5567
@na5567 5 дней назад
@@sev9258 unless one wanted to be his herald 🤷‍♂️
@sev9258
@sev9258 5 дней назад
@@na5567 I mean sure, but you specifically asked if they’d be able to ward off the coming of Galactus. I don’t see them gettting past a singular herald tbh.
@na5567
@na5567 5 дней назад
@@sev9258 that heavily depends on the herald. Herald power is wildly inconsistent but currently between Goku UI, Vegeta Ego, Gohan Beast, and Orange Piccolo, I think they would easily win against most heralds. But during the arcs mentioned it's less likely.
@christianm7250
@christianm7250 5 дней назад
My drunk dad with the belt 🥱
@menehuneking
@menehuneking 5 дней назад
Technically🤓, Gogeta came first. The manga chapters with Vegito came out first, but Toriyama said he was inspired by the team making Fusion Reborn to have Goku and Vegeta fuse, he just made up the Potara fusion so it wouldn't be the same is in the movie
@-A-M
@-A-M 4 дня назад
You placed Broly in 2nd and Gogeta in 3rd after stating Janemba is the strongest movie villain. Who was defeated by Gogeta. Perfect sense imo.
@lonkstakes
@lonkstakes 4 дня назад
Did you conveniently miss the text on the bottom of the screen where I said the statement got deleted?
@-A-M
@-A-M 3 дня назад
@@lonkstakes I did lol, I was just listening to the audio. My apologies!
@Animegod359
@Animegod359 День назад
That’s it im leaving this channel because there is no way you put broly above gogeta even if you have any reason that’s ridiculous
@exlord699
@exlord699 5 дней назад
Bro you forgot black frieza 🗣️🔥🔥💯💯
@soggybozo1515
@soggybozo1515 5 дней назад
Absolutely cannot convince me that “Gets decked by Cell Saga” Mcgee is stronger than Super Buu 2.0, who got embarrassed by Gogeta💀
@shyzhouse
@shyzhouse 4 дня назад
I think farmer with a shotgun is brutally underrated
@chakrafuji458
@chakrafuji458 5 дней назад
Silly lonkstakes it’s obviously yamcha🤦‍♂️
@savidcaralho
@savidcaralho 5 дней назад
Broly would get folded by cell and it wouldn't even be close
@kyl0ooart
@kyl0ooart 2 дня назад
Does this mean goten trunks and krillin are stronger than gogeta🤔
@fizbutreal
@fizbutreal 5 дней назад
grandpa gohan and master roshi are obviously the strongest...
@alexkimball4910
@alexkimball4910 5 дней назад
Not necessarily disagreeing, but the idea that, even after 10 FUCKING YEARS of training, End of Z Goku STILL hasn't surpassed Vegito is fucking wild to me, even when ignoring Super
@thebestcakegoku7346
@thebestcakegoku7346 4 дня назад
especially considering his transformations
@Thatguyrc2dj
@Thatguyrc2dj 3 дня назад
Lonks the DvD for the Bio Broly movie that Bio Broly is the strongest sayian in history and more dreadful then ever. You should’ve put Bio Broly at 1 or 2. If he’s stated to be the strongest sayian then he would be the fastest sayian since Speed=Power.
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