Anyone ever noticed how Flower Bow, Igor, and CMIYGL is essentially a new trilogy? I’m calling it The Love Trilogy. It all stems from Flower Boy, and then Igor and CMIYGL are different perspectives of love triangles.
it’s always been about a love triangle tho like on goblin and wolf. it’s like igor and cmiygl is the new version of those albums with tyler’s style at his full potential
@@abeultra cherry bomb feels like the transitional period between these two eras (or trilogies in this case). Personally, I think that it sounded so distorted and weird, because Tyler was trying to explore his softer feelings and ideas, much like in flower boy, while still trying to appeal to fans of the original trilogy (Bastard, Goblin and Wolf) thus resulting in this weird abomination of sound that is Cherry Bomb. Still love that album tho.
Baudelaire was also a renown romantic, famous for his grandiose but bleak depictions of love and hapiness, and thus Tyler might have taken his name to emphasize his feelings of what his youth and cherry bomb could have been. Plus, Baudelaire was a notorious drug addict (les paradis artificiels,...) and saw drugs and sex as an escape (almost the only escape) from his sad 19th century reality. Tyler said something about avoiding drugs as much as he could in interviews and public discussions (like the one with converse) as he feared them, he doesn't want them to rule his life.
@@ConverseWithMe Charles Baudelaire's most famous work is "Fleurs du Mal" (Flowers of the evil), a poem compilation (missing the exact English word lol) of poems divided into multiples sections. He was one of the first to write poetry about "not noble" things like death, ugliness or humain vice. Like, he has a whole poem in which he compares a dead animal's body to a young woman (Une Charogne). Because he wrote about themes outside of traditional peotry, Baudelaire got sued and had to remove multiple poems (2 of those including lesbian stuff) In "Fleurs du Mal", Baudelaire tries to escape from "spleen" and to find an "ideal",, notably through drugs and alcohol which allowed him to access "artificial paradises" (paradis artificiels in French)
honestly, as a rap fan this is his best album. I think it’s interesting analyzing different audiences and demographics who listen to this album and where they rank it. a lot of pop lovers always put IGOR at the top but tbh I think this shows so much in terms of versatility in producing, composing, singing, rapping and just creative imagery in general.
Imo this is his best album too Alotta tyler fans are just igor fans only sadly But this album had everything good about his previous two albums mixed with some good fuckin rapping Perfection imo Some parts of the album has that grim hiphop sound like wu tang,mobb deep and griselda then some parts have that mellow softcore igor/flowerboy esque beats borderline the album has shit for everyone I personally am a boombap fan and I loved every song
@@A.R.V_02 Yes! I completely agree with your best parts statement. I just think it’s funny for people who don’t truly understand a culture to give opinions and rankings on it. That’s like if I wasn’t a soul music head and listened to a Teddy Pendergrass album and called it ass. Ya sometimes gotta do research to understand things. Hopefully this album prompted fans of Tyler to truly understand us references as an artist and dig into the culture more. This just may be coming from someone who, although young, appreciates the steps people before me took so I could fully enjoy masterpieces like CMIYGL.
The cover doesn’t page homage to ODB as he’s said before that’s just how the IDs looked back in the days. Some fan tried to put those 2 together especially after the comparisons of Wu Tang and Odd Future being rap groups who said what they wanted and acted equally as outrageous.
i love how everyone is trying to link this cover to ODB but nobody really said anything when Aminé dropped his first single of Limbo, Shimmy, which was an actual direct reference to ODB, both in cover art and in terms of the song itself💀
@@xak9687 I think it’s because that was an obvious reference to ODB by sampling his song and lyrics. Tyler doesn’t reference him once so it’s more ambiguous. Speaking of ODB samples have you ever heard Ole Dirty Bastard by B.o.B?
My only complaint is your videos are too short. Loved your analysis on Mac after his passing and the video on Schoolboy Q's Oxymoron. Your editing work is on par with big budget channels with teams of people trying to do what your doing perfectly. Keep up the work. Its evident you love what you're doing and all I've seen is positive feedback.
Thank you for the kind words! You got it, everything is created by me which takes a while. I have so many topics I want to talk about for new videos, so I try not to keep them too long.
Wow, that’s crazy, came to the comments to see what people thought, saw this and then realised this wasn’t a big channel. The production on this is amazing especially for someone doing it solo. Keep grinding man, it’s legit a matter of time. And I reiterate, WOW.
I always forget how creatively gifted tyler is in terms of attention to detail and making sure that everything in his videos or songs have their own meanings that all tie to the central theme
@@waddalup6436 No, his earlier albums are not as good as his last three. Production wise and lyric wise Flower Boy, Igor and CMIYGL are his best work. They were good but not excellent like his last ones.
@@jeffpesos420 cherry bomb was viewed as a lesser album because it was a mashup of different genres. Tyler said in an interview it was meant to throw you off and it's one of his favourite albums he made (This was because flower boy I think so it might of changed). Also all of Tyler's music is good so all the other people saying 3 good albums should just stop
- Travel card / not ID - ODB had a foodstamp card - Boudelaire isn't an italian name, it's french - "It's just another chapter in the book" means that the time he had with the girl wasn't lost, but just another chapter in his book. Book as in life. Great video though! I really loved the visuals too
- I mean passport if I ever mention ID within the video - This one was harder to express because although Baudelaire is a French name, it’s an Italian travelling persona. His Instagram locations are always in “Capri, Italy” - Makes sense! I wanted to express it in that way, ending of a chapter in the book of life/journey he’s in I appreciate the creative criticism! Always like to hear what I can improve on
@@ConverseWithMe don't expect Tyler to know the difference between Italian and French high class culture. It all fits into the "European old money" grand Budapest type aesthetic
personally every tyler album needs to be listened with a different perspective. they are all different and have different characters and vibes. EVERY SINGLE TYLER ALBUM IS THE BEST ALBUM! they are all unique and amazing
Loved your analysis on what I think is the album of the year thus far. What I love about this album is that it has a theme and takes listeners on an adventure. The colours used in the accompanying imagery is almost just as apparent in his production and lyrics. In my opinion, this was Tyler's most personal project and really helped me connect to him and understand his evolution. Great video!
Tbh I was a huge Tyler / OF fan when Yonkers dropped and for the buzzing years that followed. I didn't really understand Bastard when it dropped, at least the concept of it. I knew it was creative but it more or less seemed like a silly way to wrap the project up with skits. I didn't really understand the underpinnings that made the album so unique until years later and albums later. I didn't pay as close attention to what Tyler was doing but I would still tune in. Now after all these years I understand that Tyler is about as close to a method rapper (like a method actor) that I have seen in years. He uses these characters to show off different parts of himself and it's through the contrast with his public persona, his character, AND his ACTUAL self that fans connect to him. It's really interesting to think about and I wonder if Tyler had this sort of grand plan imagined all the way back when OF was still one young group of artists or if it's more so something that developed as he experimented with different sounds. Either way with this album and Tyler's consistent track record he's proven himself over and over again at being whole heartedly deserving the title of 'artist'. I love that Tyler doesn't show fear in experimenting with different sounds and imagery with his projects but leans into these characters and aesthetics. All the while he plays these roles you can tell that Tyler is still himself all along. It's not an easy feat to accomplish for any artist to even flirt with these different styles without the public perception of the artist themselves changing and not the thing that they are making. I hope that makes sense. Basically I'm saying Tyler is a bit of a genius.
Personally i see Tyler being more honest to himself in this album, i have to say that this album really grew on me, i hated it on the first listen, but i think its an album that grows on you after some listens, i would put it in 3rd rank, below Igor and Flower boy but above wolf, just because we get to see him more maturely here.
@@a.e.i2409 Its really just subjective, i liked it more than wolf because i felt tyler grew out of that edgy phase, i still love wolf and in a good day i would say its better than CMIYGL, but you do you, music is really subjective.
I don’t really wanna rank Tyler’s albums. I just appreciate them all for what they are. I guess that’s the benefit of such an artistic approach. It would be a shame to rank it/critique it, because it’s so good.
i thought the pacing of the whole album was a little weird. every other album goes into the next song pretty well, especially igor and flower boy. pacing is big for me ik terms of the entire album appreciation. like j cole shi. the album was mid bc of the transitions, to me tho
1:03 Italian? If I were to fancy a guess by the amount of times he mentioned French and Swiss cities, I would happen to have a guess that Sir Baudelaire is french...
I've never seen Tyler like this. He's at his best after being lost - Flower boy IGOR he started really introspecting. Now he knows himself and to see that reflect in his words, chords, videos is immaculate to say the least. This is no. 1 and the whole album is played start to finish like Endless so there is no favourite.
The poet dude was not where he got the name. It’s from a tv show with the main family’s last name being botilare or however you spell it. He says this on an interview.
Cherry Bomb was the iffiest album to me, but I STILL blast that shit in a certain mood. Tyler had expanded over so many feels for me that I put on his albums for specific trips, both mentally and physically. He’s got an air around him that vibes with my Life and each album is like a different scent/perfume of his. All Love to him and every fan of any song 🤟🏾
This album came out for me at such an amazing time considering a few days before "Call me If You Get Lost" dropped I started my journey traveling the world :) Really good video Converse With Me
This is my favorite album after Igor which is still his magnum opus. You can tell Tyler grew a lot over the last couple of years and CMIYGL is a mix of bragging about his success and the beauty that it is to grow and to explore the world. That being said the album is more disorganized than Igor, maybe because it's not a story but a mix of thoughts and idea packed into an album?
I didn't click with this album for a while and only recently, just before he released the estate sale I started listening again to give it another shot and next thing I know, I can't stop listening to the album, especially with the new tracks! One of my favourite things about Tyler's albums is that he has such cohesion with the style and theme of his albums. When you listen to the whole album in order, you can appreciate the transitions between songs and it's so rewarding. With some other artists, their albums just feel like a bunch of disconnected songs together in one album. Tyler is so God damn talented and I feel honoured to witness his rise. Speaking of rising up, that's one of my favourite songs of the album lol
Here’s a theory that is a huge stretch but I just noticed it during the videos. What are 2 of the most repetitive colors in all of them so far? Blue and pink. Tyler could be having a kid? Prolly not but I thought it was weird how those are the 2 colors that show up often in the videos especially in corso. Why have balloons, cake, plates, cup, and more in pink and blue at a party?
@@prod.rhodamine W tyler has said multiple times his favourite album of his is Cherry Bomb if i didn't have a personal emotional link to IGOR my ranking would go Cherry Bomb IGOR CMIYGL Wolf Flower Boy
I can’t rank his albums because it’s a story about Tyler. So every album is a chapter, that are wrote about him by himself. I can’t rank his emotions and experience. Also I have the same thoughts about this album.
Excellent evaluation with awesome visuals. I dismissed Tyler early on but his talent is undeniable. Call me if you get lost is a hip hop masterpiece. It has everything. Every track is 🔥, it includes potential classics, it drops gems of knowledge, he takes chances, and the rhyming is on point. My favorites are Corso and Hot Wind Blows.
👉🏾 "Wolfgang" Mozart was a composer (beat maker) & Chuck "Baudelaire" was a poet (lyricist) who mastered rhyme & rhythm. Tyler is a beat maker & lyricist so what he did earlier w/ "Wolfgang" he's doing w/ "Baudelaire" now
Great vid, dude. As a long time Tyler fan since the Goblin/OFWGKTA/Loiter Squad days, I can say with confidence that there has not been a more relatable and inspirational collection of music that has come from Tyler than this most recent one. Of course, everything that preceded CMIYGL built the foundation for the magnitude of the record to be what it was, but this really showcases Tyler's prominence as an artist in a comprehensive way. He's not only become a beautiful lyricist, but also producer and person. It's truly an honor to live in a time where we can witness this growth.
I thought you wanted to dance is the best on the album IMO. I don’t know where I would but CMIYGL, on one hand it explores Tyler’s personality and has intricate detail on everything on the album, while it might not be as much of a concept as IGOR was, it wasn’t going for that title as a concept album, it was going for joy, exploration, storyline and amazing, diverse music, so in conclusion, I would HAVE to put CMIYGL at number #1 In Tyler’s discography.
great breakdown. I'm barley getting off of Igor. I've been on Igor since it came out, but it wasn't until last year, I was fresh out of a breakup I listened to it heavy. However, it wasn't until this past January I was actually living the album. I had a crush on a new person but they ended up not choosing me. It was then I UNDERSTOOD and felt Igor. Now I am entering a new season. Mizz Baudelaire. -Jackie G
The whole theme behind this album me and Tyler went on a romantic glamming trip just to talk , hunch snd discover life in the mountains and our conversations turned into this album recorded so much with Apple voice recorder .we wanna change the world in a gay way u know make everybody a glittery queen .
CALL ME IF YOU GET LOST- A Series of Unfortunate Events- connected? Ok, everyone, hear me out. I found a couple of posts on this, but I want everyone’s honest feedback because it looks like those threads lead nowhere. These are solely my ideas, thoughts, and connections between the two pieces of work. In the first song of the album, we find Tyler is now SIR BAUDELAIRE which is our first connection to the book series. Second, we get a hint at The Reptile Room (the second book in the series) at the end of the song when DJ DRAMA tells us they’ve been taking Rolls Royce’s to see Alligators. Also, we know that under the guise of Stephano, Count Olaf carried alligator skin SUITCASES, which Tyler has been carrying around with him for a while now as a fashion piece. In the second song, CORSO Tyler asks us to catch him at his other other other other crib. Since the Baudelaire’s are orphans that keep getting moved around, we can follow the theme that they have many homes, as does Tyler Baudelaire. Coincidence? Probably… but I’ll continue anyway. In the third song, LEMONHEAD, we hear, “I don't lean but my house do Off the hill with the mean view (yeah) Nice house, if you look out You can see some eagles and a few yachts Got a roommate, he won't move out If you want smoke, he the cool aunt” we also know in the 3rd book of the series The Wide Window the orphans move in with their aunt Josephine (not their aunt, but that’s what they call her) into a house that leans over a cliff overlooking Lake Lachrymose (where one might see a boat) We can also connect Lemony Snicket (the pseudonym the author of the series gives himself to insert himself in the storyline) with the title of the song LEMONHEAD. Keep the idea of the boat in your head because it is a steady theme in the series and the album. In the fifth song, LUMBERJACK, we hear, “You always keep the picnic blankets in the back ‘Cause you, you never know You never where the fuck you gon’ end up at.” (Which might be an allusion to the picnic the orphans have at Briny Beach in the first book and end up leaving their home to live with Count Olaf) but we also find that Tyler wants us to call him a Lumberjack because he, “wish a nigga would” which is a play on the word wood. In the fourth book, The Miserable Mill, the orphans are now living at the Lucky Smells Lumbermill. Maybe a weak connection, but I’ll take it. In the fifth song, HOT WIND BLOWS, we hear more references to the boats and the luggage because Tyler is always on the move, just like the orphans. The song WILSHIRE is about Tyler being in love with a woman he cannot have because she’s with his friend. Throughout the whole series, we know that Lemony Snicket was in love with a woman he couldn’t have. She went by the name Beatrice. She was once engaged with Lemony but became married to someone in the VFD (a group of people that share a common goal, all three are in said group) There is another allusion to the relationship with this woman in a song from a previous album Flower Boy called See you again, where the chorus sings, “Can I get a kiss? And can you make it last forever? I said I'm 'bout to go to war And I don't know if I'ma see you again” In the last known interaction between Lemony Snicket and Beatrice, he met Beatrice on a street, telling her he would always love her even if he wouldn't see her again. The two shared a departing kiss. I want to note that all the tracks in CMWYGL are in all CAPS. Flower Boy is capitalized normally throughout the album tracklist EXCEPT on RU-vid. The song title and video for SEE YOU AGAIN are in all CAPS and was released 13 months after the album was released. It’s also where we first meet TYLER BAUDELAIRE (we can infer this because of the USHANKA that he wears in the video) where we see him. Only his mouth is illuminated, and the rest of his body is in the shadow except for his EYE. When the word EYE is spoken, it is illuminated and then pushed back into the shadow when the word is spoken again. We all know the importance of the EYE in ASOUE (the tattoo to mark allegiance to the VFD) One more point to make on SEE YOU AGAIN is that it takes place on a boat in the music video. The running theme of boats in the album is a connection because, in the series, there is a boat named the Beatrice, which holds a long history of importance to the series. In the song, WUSYANAME, Tyler says, “Aw you look malnourished” when talking to a woman. At the end of the album, in the song SAFARI, Tyler says, ”The felines name him hour for how long he eat the-wait a minute” which could be connecting the women who he calls Felines to the pair of Lions of the VFD Volunteer FELINE Detectives which are described as lethargic and MALNOURISHED, one having all its ribs visible. Would you mind letting me know your thoughts? I think there are some strong themes and some weaker supporting points. Also, in the music videos, other visuals allude to different themes in the series. -Edward S.
i think tyler baudelaire is wolf haley under a different persona, more matured, and more. i belive that instead of TYLER killing everyone i think WOLF killed everyone in Sam is Dead. i think he took over, matured over all these years, and is back in cmiygl
Terrible breakdown. Anyone who listens to the album would’ve known everything you mentioned. Nothing was new. You didn’t even go into the depth in “Safari” possibly the best track off the album. Do us a favor and never talk about Tyler again. You don’t know what you’re talking about just trying to get a check off his greatness
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