Unconfirmed, but I like to think the reason Cherry Bomb Tyler and IGOR don’t say anything is cause Cherry Bomb Tyler doesn’t have anything to apologize for, and IGOR is doing the adlibs:) (I LOVE to think IGOR is doing the adlibs)
@@WyWid in a song/project this big and meaningful for the future of his career I believe theres obviously a reason for everything that is and ins't in the song
I personally just want more Tyler projects, he definitely was right when he said he shouldn't be classified as a rapper or anything like that. ( I forget when he specifically said that I'm paraphrasing here) He is an artist more than anything, not scared about branching out and being just more of himself in each album. Here's hoping his new page is something worth remembering just as the rest have left an impression on all of us! 🎉
he shouldnt be classified as an urban (genre) artist because it feels to him like a racist noun for him.* [I'm reminding you of what he specifically said]
Some other details: 1. Tyler killed his alter egos from newest to oldest. He first killed Igor (2019), Flower Boy (2017), Cherry Bomb (2015). Then killed Wolf (2013), Goblin (2011) and Bastard (2009), then wrapped it up with his latest album CMIYGL (2021). 2. In this video, Igor is behind the other Tylers and also the background vocals. This is reminiscent to how the Igor album was constructed - Tyler spent a lot of the time staying in the background / didn't speak as much. He let the featured artists and production shine a lot more than usual. 3. At 0:20 in this video and 1:51 in the original video, Tyler says "Not to not explore and stay the same" then the camera switches to Cherry Bomb. Cherry Bomb was the first album where he seriously "explored" and switched everything up. This did not go in his favor since Cherry Bomb is considered his worst album, but it didn't stop him from exploring with Flower Boy, Igor and CMIYGL (2 Grammys and 1 Grammy nomination).
I feel like another good detail is that if Igor and Cherry Bomb don’t say anything, it’s like they are almost unapologetic both his critically acclaimed best album and his favorite album.
@@jtrap3179 There's a few songs on Igor that have very similar background singing like Running Out Of Time, Puppet and Gone Gone / Thank You. It could be a stretch but in general, Igor has more singing compared to his other albums, so I suspect that's how Tyler wanted to represent Igor on this song.
I think it’s kind of a cool theory that my cousin told me. She said that the audience is like all the people that come and see you before you get executed on death row. It’s like all his alter egos knew they were going to die throughout the song waiting for the Tyler without a shirt to kill them off one by one getting everything off their chest. I just hope that Tyler can explain everything in this video and exactly what he meant. This video is so amazing. I personally think this is one of the best videos for 2023 hands down. I might just be wrong about this theory but I do think it’s a cool way to interpret it.
I agree with this theory! It makes sense too because its clearly portrayed as an event, not just a random set piece, and the no pictures sign solidifies that. Like if you go to a concert or any event you go to, typically will have a "no pictures" policy. So to play on your cousins theory, it is an execution, and all the people he has wronged are paying to watch his death and downfall essentially. I feel like it symbolizes how a lot of the people he wronged would like to see him fail, or at least he feels that way. I know from my own life experiences that when you wrong people in your life, sometimes it can feel like they just want the worst for you after that. Whether the audience portrayed in the video actually feels that way or not, its symbolic of his guilt.
I think something else people havent noticed about the video or just havent mentioned is that Tyler not only had a callback to another Tyler version before the curtains opened but foreshadowed that he was going to kill off versions of himself. The military person in the beginning is a callback to the Sam is Dead music video where he before this killed a bunch of Tyler's and by his presence is signalling a death to a version of himself and the coming of an amount of maturity and change in sound.
This could be true, I've seen a lot of people point towards this. My only thing is though the military guy in Sam Is Dead is wearing a white uniform, so if it is supposed to be a nod towards this, why not just make the suit white? It could definitely still have a deeper meaning but I equally think this might be a moment when fans are looking too hard for something subliminal, it could just be to symbolize that its a guarded event of sorts, like another comment said an execution.
One other thing that is quite important to note is this: At the beginning of the song, Tyler Bodelaire talks about how his chains shine brighter than a black man's plight. We know from this video that his "final form" is the shirtless tyler, no chains, no fancy clothes, no mask. Which means he stripped himself of all the things that Tyler Bodelaire blinded himself with (he blinded himself with the shiny ice), he stripped himself of any Mask (Goblin, Cherry Bomb). He keeps eye contact when talking from his heart (Flowerboy Tyler looked away from the camera); He is done beating himself up over his emotions (Bastard, Wolf). So with the next time we hear from Tyler, it will possible be the open version of Tyler, a Tyler that is honest with himself and shares his honesty with everyone. Tyler is honestly my favourite artist, together with K.
i like how shirtless tyler goes one by one through the characters but he goes backwards rather than in order of when they were "released" with the album they belong in
One thing I see a lot of reactions gloss over is that Tyler KILLS Baudelaire. People seem very caught up on agreeing with his statements but not that his "sorry, not sorry" attitude isn't good. It's rage, it's vitriol, and you can see it in the climax. Base Tyler isn't saying 'sorry, not sorry', Buadelaire is, and Base kills him for it. (If we're to assume he kills all of them as representing a disagreement with who he was then/certain decisions he made or ways he behaved)
also I think this is a turn for a more raw, more violent and angry tyler again, due to Gobin and the Bastard being left out. Like he couldn’t beat them or move past them even if he tried. Maybe that’s why he’s beaten at the end
The thing that got me about the video was how it looks less like a human zoo or even an execution. In the past, some people would capture people of color and put them in a zoo for paying customers. There are also examples of forced gladiator-style fights to the deaths, grabbing random BIPOC folks off the street It kinda ties into Tyler's frustration with being in a public light that tries to strip him of his privacy and what makes him a person. A public light that has killed people but still cries for everything you have and more.
great breakdown vieo, I really love this song and the points it makes. Although, on the challenge for best song title reference in a song, I'd have to give it to "I Love You, I Hate You" by Little Simz. The way she uses the title and sample throughout the song as apart of the storytelling is beyond amazing
excellent song, I enjoyed GREY Area from Simz and have been late on listening to her 2 new albums. I just listened to that song and you’re so right, wowowow
you said the goblin tyler was the one in the green mask but i dont really think thats true based on context and the storyline of the wolf trilogy. i think the one in the green mask is actually bastard while the one in the blue and red jacket is goblin. goblin was a mixture of both wolf haley and ace, which was tylers self perfection fighting with his aggressive thoughts. bastard has 2 album covers which tyler himself mentioned to be 2 reflections of good and bad because of the coloring. With red representing bad and blue representing good it would make the most sense for goblin to be clearly the one wearing the representative colors because of the album sort of merging the 2 personalities
Brooooo this is an amazing analysis and I missed so much even though I listened to the song so many times. Thank you! I hope you get more appreciation and views soon
Bruh, if you remember this in a couple years you’re gonna be embarrassed. When I was in my early teens I used to say this stuff. I used to only like Eminem and Kendrick and old rappers. Now I listen to everyone,sometimes you just need to sit back and appreciate the ones who say “random stuff” mainstream examples would include lil baby, lil uzi, migos, gunna, future
@@WyWid i was the exact same way, i still gave those artist a listen but never listened to them again or not as consistent because i believed conscience music was superior. i give everything a chance now, music didn’t start off with trying to send off a message or tell a story but to appeal to the crowd and listeners. at the end of the day a lot of people don’t want to focus on the lyrics too much but to just have fun listening to the song. Your environment is crucial too, i dont want to listen to MF DOOM in the club but i’d love to in the car or in my room doing whatever i’m doing
The most common misconception about art is that it's supposed to be done in a certain way or it isn't valid. Art doesn't have to be deeply meaningful or esoteric because art is merely a form of human expression made real through creativity. And what is rapping but a means of human expression. Don't set boundaries on what you're willing to listen to because art doesn't have any boundaries. Just enjoy the music for what it is. Much love my friend
I thought of a few thing while watching this 1. The shirtless Tyler is the base tyler and he wants to kill all his past “personas” if that’s the right word, and wants to continue or “start” on a new slate, like a new identity now 2. The base tyler isn’t actually base tyler and actually a new Tyler or it is a base tyler and maybe (if he makes another album, he could do a coryxkenshin and be gone for longer than he said, who knows) he’s gonna make an album without no “persona” and being genuinely him. 3. He wants to end the story there, he wants to end it like a musical, and he doesn’t want no happy ending, he just wants to stop it there, but knowing him, this might not be as likely If you have any other theories, put them in the reply section, i would love to hear other people’s thoughts and I love talking to people about theories so yeah, have a good day and I wish you all the best.
well i think its a super creative way to explain how we get older and our views and morals change constantly, including our interest. each tyler is just what era of what he was into at the time. every fews years your a little different from who you were 2 years ago, but your still the same old you. no matter what, it just shows how we are constantly thinking differently and changing.
I think this is the finale of Tyler’s alto egos. Like in Sam is dead, the three characters ace, tron cat and I believe “Sam??” Correct me if I’m wrong. Never ever are mentioned or brought back by Tyler . When they are killed they are killed. Tyler also mentioned that he had considered dropping his stage name “Tyler the creator” for his real name. The way I see it , he won’t create anymore alter egos but instead claim the feelings or the character of his next albums as his true self. For me this sucks azzzzz. The alter egos expressions were so cool and I don’t want them gone :(.
@@helpmekiller3670 he “brought” sam back to finish the wolf trilogy. It ends with goblin but “wolf 2013” was in production by Tyler since immediately after bast*** album.
Just found your channel through this video cause I listened to that song so much bro it's so good and I loved this video you explained it the best out of everyone else I've seen
great video, really exellent video. I would just like you to touch on the theory that the shirtless Tyler is the persona of his next album and what we know about this character for now in a shorter video. Otherwise this video earned you my subscribe
I've seen lots of different reasons as to the order of his alums being killed. It could be newest to oldest but I've seen other interesting ones like least to most prideful or which albums changed him the most. I think it could be a combination of all of these or maybe its something none of us can ever know and we just have to wait.
It won’t happened based off of how the music video ended but an album similarly built like Igor of just this song would be amazing. A storyline and telling of how he killed off the Tyler’s one by one and even at that the possibility of using that Tyler’s style of singing in each song describing how they were killed just sounds perfect
I hope you se this comment, because it’s (kinda) clear what the song means- if you buy the song and not stream/watch it on RU-vid, instead of the estate sale at the end, Tyler states “A new era is upon us”
I think it’s more towards the paparazzi and news outlet reporting on him dating a girl. He did mention “Met that girl this year, that’s none of your biz”
As a rock fan and a rap fan this kind of reminds me of David Bowie This whole idea of building and alter ego for each musical phase and what do they mean for the artist
I think that the shirtless tyler is the next version of him, slowly removing his past versions; moving on. The second to last line he says "I gurantee another era is upon us"
I love this but I wish you brought up the ego, how his more ego filled parts speak up like how boudalare is his highest ego and then goblin, the stuck up "bastard" and it corelates to the verses and how many there are for each ego