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Your teaching is a false teaching misleading those who will not receive the Holy Spirit by Faith through these end times of false doctrines of demons like yours.
Every time i hear you, i want more, like im hungry to listen. Im 27 years old, i met Jesus around 4 years ago, and since then im searching day and night EVERY day for the truth, i went from Christianity, and doubt lead me to a whole different doctrines, at one point i wanted to convert to Islam, i was i new age after that for a year studying it daily, atheism got me for some time also, science and evolution, karma, law of attraction...But i didn't give up, because i wanted to know who is God, does he exist?who created me? I couldn't rest even for one day. I departed from faith after being born again for 2 and a half years, i lost the truth, and came back to know, 100% that Jesus is the way the truth and the Life.Amen
Amen ... i am 47 and i hope you can be an example for more young strong minds to come to the truth .... i have a weakness of the flesh in terms of addiction but i started to deal with it in 2014 and am now on daily medicine to stay safe, with the aim of reducing and eventually stopping with the help of the Lord. i learned much of the Bible history and prophecy and the exegesis of the two by watching Walter Veith Nader Mansour and Ivor Myers as well as Stephen Borh i have been hungry for more knowledge of my long suffering Just Righteous Holy God .... im really trying to understand the complexities in its simplicity the doctrine of Sanctification Justification and glorification, past present, future, imparted righteousness and imputed righteousness
I had an experience about five years ago after I had turned back to God from my prodigal daughter experience. I was studying and praying constantly, and would take long walks by the ocean every morning to be the Him, and would pray to be filled with the Holy Spirit. One morning after my making such a request a voice came and said to me "I am here, just pray directly to me". I was shocked and alarmed because I knew that I had never seen anywhere in the Bible that we were to pray directly to the Holy Spirit, and I knew in my spirit it wasn't right. I grew up in the Methodist (trinitarian) church and didn't question the trinity doctrine at that time, although I had never really studied the Bible to see what it said either, just accepting what the church taught. When I came across your teachings concerning the trinity (after being led to the sabbath, state of the dead, etc. and the SDA church), I remembered that experience and it reinforced to me the fact that Satan will be using people's false understanding of the Holy Spirit to deceive many in these last days. I pray that more people will listen to your teachings and really pray and study this out for themselves, otherwise they are leaving themselves open to dangerous deception.
I am 70 yrs old and was brought up Catholic, taught by nuns from 1st grade thru high school. Since I was 13 I've had many concerns regarding the doctrine of the church. I have been searching and this man is the first person to speak exactly what my spirit has shown me all my life!! This is only the 2nd video of his I've seen, and it was wonderful to hear God's word explained so simply. He speaks God's truth. (and no, I haven't been to that church since I was 25)
I was a member of no church. Then came to know my Lord and Savior 40 years ago. I have walked with Jesus and been filled with the Holy Spirit ever since. The words of this man go against the Bible. Amazing Facts Doug Batchelor Article Trinity; God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are one in purpose, thought, and mind. They are also one in origin. We cannot fully understand this with our human minds. But just because there are three entities in the Godhead does not mean that there are three Gods. It is the One God who expresses Himself in these three persons. Matthew 28:19 clearly refers to the three aspects of the Godhead. Doug Batchelor www.amazingfacts.org/media-library/book/e/77/t/the-trinity Christ's command to baptize in the name of the three seems plain enough. People who reject the trinity have to reject a number of Scriptures to do so.
I think you need to look at the issue a little closer than just taking Doug Batchelor's word for it. For example, here is something to think about when it comes to Matthew 28:19: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gOcY72ZFO8A.html
Samuel Williams TY - it is so good to hear a comment such as yours. This man may not realize which master he is serving. Our human minds cannot understand this concept fully, but God gave us His Word and also gave us a prophet that He inspired with the correct understanding of the Trinity truth. We either trust God and His prophet or we fall prey to speakers like this one. This speaker is planting seeds of doubt in the words that God's prophet was inspired to write. Nothing good has ever come of ignoring a prophet and trusting our own understanding. This is called wishful thinking only. Wishing Ellen White had said and written things that agree with my way of thinking.
When God said, "Let us make man in our image", He did not proceed to creating a triune personality. Apparently, the very IMAGE of God was perfectly exemplified in one person, the man Adam. Since Adam was not a trinity of persons, there can only ever be one of two possible conclusions to this matter: 1. If God is indeed a trinity, then Adam was not a true reflection of His image. 2. If Adam was the image of God, then God is not a trinity of persons.
Actually ...it would be better and more accurate to say that male and female in union constitutes the image of God. Note Genesis 1:26-27 where we are told "And God said, Let us make 'man' in our image, after our likeness: and let 'them' ...." In other words, man is referred to as 'them' ...as in mankind. Verse 27 clarifies. "So God created man in his own image...". And just who is this man (mankind) that was created? It goes on to say "male and female created he them". As Jesus could say, "I and my Father are one" ...we are also told concerning them intimate bonds of matrimony "Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh" (Gen. 2:24). So the union of man and woman (mankind together) is representative of the image of God.
I have felt like the human is mind-body-spirit which is the soul of man. Like Father-Son-Holy Spirt is GOD. There is much confusion and debate about the concept of the nature of GOD. If GOD were simple to comprehend, then perhaps HE would not be worth worshipping because fully comprehending our great GOD would put us on par with HIM. I don't think our minds are capable of grasping the infinite GOD.
And I will share this message to my church and ready to stand forth to debate to defeat Satan's plan for my church . When I know the truth I cannot keep quite. I m not only to be saved for salvation. With me our brothers and sisters also get saved for salvation. Thank you Lord Jesus be with me when I am preparing to work for your kingdom. Amen
Truly Nader is speaking in the spirit of Elijah as did John the Baptist. Turning the minds of God’s people from the worship of false gods to the worship of the true God and His Son. Same goes for brother Awde.
The Hebrew word used for God's Holy Spirit is "ru'ach". The Greek word used for God's Holy Spirit is "pneuma". Both words have the same meaning...wind, breezy part, active force, or anything pertaining to an active force such as spirit. When Jesus appeared to his disciples after his death, he blew Holy Spirit (pneuma) on them (John 20:22). It's hardly likely that Jesus blew a person on them and quite apparent that what he blew on them was an active force. The Jews also believed that God's Holy Spirit was an active force and not a person.
+Samuel Williams Yes, as the Jews knew it to be, it is a force. However, God also uses his Holy Spirit to comfort people. So when a person is undergoing severe tribulation such as suicidal thoughts, homelessness, living in the midst of violence such as a war zone for instance, etc., God can provide comfort to us through his written word and the good news of the kingdom that he will soon establish on the earth that will eliminate all these problems. In that way it acts as a comforter in making us aware that soon God is going to put an end to all this mess that we live in. Please read Daniel 2:44 and Daniel 7:9, 10, 13, 14 and if you can find the time, Isaiah chapters 25:6-8, 35:5-7, 45:18, 55:11, 65:17-25. Isaiah 55:11 tells us that God PROMISES us that every word that goes forth from his mouth will not go back to him without results, so we can be assured that all these things are going to come true. For people in severe circumstances, all these things can act as a comforter. Now who arranged to have those promises written down for us? Jehovah...through his Spirit, that's who. And who can arrange to direct a person's attention to those promises? Jehovah...through his Spirit, that's who. And who, then, can provide us with comfort from these promises? Jehovah...through his Spirit, that's who. So what then can act as our comforter? Jehovah's Spirit, that's what... as He uses it to guide and direct our attention towards his promises.
These words are not about a force. Acts 5:3,4 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land? Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God. John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Hebrews 2:4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will? Romans 8:26,27 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God. The word in Greek is paraklētos Strong's definition. summoned, called to one's side, esp. called to one's aid one who pleads another's cause before a judge, a pleader, counsel for defense, legal assistant, an advocate one who pleads another's cause with one, an intercessor of Christ in his exaltation at God's right hand, pleading with God the Father for the pardon of our sins in the widest sense, a helper, succourer, aider, assistant of the Holy Spirit destined to take the place of Christ with the apostles (after his ascension to the Father), to lead them to a deeper knowledge of the gospel truth, and give them divine strength needed to enable them to undergo trials and persecutions on behalf of the divine kingdom
+Samuel Williams God's active force is his Spirit which is also his will. This is what the Jews knew it to be and who would have known better than the Jews who worshiped the ONE true God? Jesus stated at John 4:22 "Salvation originates with the Jews". In fact, not only were Jesus and his apostles all Jewish, but the very first Christians were all Jews. They met in the synagogue, obeyed the law of Moses and repeated the Shema on a daily basis. Simply put, they were still Jews and the only thing that made them different to other Jews was that they accepted Jesus as the Messiah. Well, if our Salvation originates with the Jews as Jesus very clearly stated, then we would do well to pay mind to what the Jews taught. Strong evidence of what the Jews taught regarding the Holy Spirit being God's active force is found at John 20:22 "After saying this he blew on them and said to them: "Receive Holy Spirit". It's not very likely that Jesus blew a person on his disciples but an active force would be in context to his act of blowing something on them and telling them to receive it. Then also, there's the Hebrew word used for Holy Spirit..."ru'ach" which means wind, breeze, breezy part, active force or anything pertaining to an active force such as spirit. It just does not mean person or being. Also, there is not one single instance in scripture where Jesus and God are beside each other where there is another person (the Holy Spirit) present. Daniel saw God and Jesus in vision and there was no Holy Spirit present. Timothy saw God and Jesus together in vision and there was no other person present. In every instance, including in Revelation, there are only God and his Son together and no third person with them.
37yrs. I was a Methodist and I remember distinctly that when we pray we end with in the name of God the father and the son and the holy spirit But now they pray as God the father,and God the son and God the spirit.Where did it come from...from the doctrine of the devil...
There are those that say that the Holy Spirit is another and separate person FROM the Father and the Son but the Bible does not say it. It is "ANOTHER COMFORTER" representing Christ (John 14:16-18). The Greek for "another" is "ALLOS" in JOhn 14:16 which means "another of the SAME KIND". The Spirit is called COMFORTER (Gk. parakletos) and Christ is also called ADVOCATE (Gk. parakletos) in 1John 2:1). That's why Christ comes to the believers AS ANOTHER OF THE SAME KIND since he comes in another form, in the SPIRIT as the "parakletos" (John 14:18; Col 1:27; Gal 4:6). Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you ANOTHER COMFORTER, that he may abide with you for ever; Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I WILL COME TO YOU. Christ is the SAME PARAKLETOS KIND as the Holy Spirit because he is using the Spirit of his Father (John 15:26) as an AGENCY to represent himself and functions as his person. EGW: The Holy Spirit is greatly needed in our schools. This divine agency comes to the world as Christ's representative. {FE 526.3} Cumbered with humanity, Christ could not be in every place personally; therefore it was altogether for their advantage that He should leave them, go to His father, and send the Holy Spirit to be His successor on earth. The Holy Spirit is Himself divested of the personality of humanity and independent thereof. He would represent Himself as present in all places by His Holy Spirit, as the Omnipresent. {14MR 23.3} BIBLE: Mar 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. The Holy Spirit is no longer mentioned because it is already embedded in the person of the Father. EGW: "He that believeth in the Son, hath the Father also." He who has continual faith in the Father and the Son has the Spirit also. {BTS, March 1, 1906 par. 6}
There are three living persons of the heavenly trio; in the name of these three great powers-the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit-those who receive Christ by living faith are baptized, and these powers will co-operate with the obedient subjects of heaven in their efforts to live the new life in Christ.-Special Testimonies, Series B, No.
First let me say that I lean strongly to the side of pioneers belief. I am certain that they did not believe in the Trinity. But I came across this quote: "You are born unto God, and you stand under the sanction and the power of the three holiest beings in heaven, who are able to keep you from falling." - {Ms95-1906.29} It seams EGW has used terms Person, Personality and even Being about the Holy Spirit.
@Trevor Tonner I understand if you haven't read her books. But I encourage you to do so. Anyway, the Bible says there will be prophets. So there is nothing wrong with another prophet. Who wrote the Bible? The prophets did. Who is the real author though? God, who by His Spirit inspired the prophets, who were humans. Same with EGW. People don't realize that when they criticize EGW they criticize God. They don't realize that when they accuse us of worshipping a human (EGW) they are actually worshiping humans themselves. They worship the Bible writers and turn a blind eye to God who is the author of both the Bible and EGW writings. Btw, I found an explanation to my old question as well. That quote comes from her sermon and that manuscript is not written by her but by a stenographist instead. She probably made a mistake because EGW never writes "three beings" about God. Of course, we don't need EGW to disprove the Trinity. It is clear from the Bible also. But for SDAs it is important to see that she did not believe it. Because we are being lied to as if she did.
Im not a biblical scholar , but i always felt the blessed Holy spirit is not separate but an extension of the All mighty just like Christ. Weve been seperated from God, but yes he dwells in us all even sinners.. The All Mighty created everything, so there fore everything contains pieces of him.
Your thinking is New Age. God is not in everything, especially sinners and luciferian pompous pontificating pernicious pagan peddling pedophelia prelates.
Well thats my God given right to have my own opinion. I can freely express it without pompous jackholes like yourself thinking you are the all mighty know it all, cause seriously nobody knows the truth and yes God is everywhere.. Just because you cant see it doesnt mean it doesnt exist.. And i like new age way better than any indictrinated gospel crap.. Least i dont feel the need to judge or hate anyone..unlike your negativity, which is unproductive just like your reply to mine.
What makes you think i want that anyways?? You judge way too much little one. Weve got purpose here on earth, stop waiting on something to save you. And get to work...
hidden nugget Throw God's prophet out, and woe until you Israel. That is what happened to them. No judgement - just the simple truth. God provided his church with a prophet just when one was so sorely needed after so many years of darkness. You cannot doubt one word she wrote or you are indeed calling God a liar.
1 Tim 4:1 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons, Lk 12:10 And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. Mt 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, Eph 4:30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. Jn 16:13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. Acts 5:3 But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and to keep back for yourself part of the proceeds of the land? Acts 13:2 While they were worshiping the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, “Set apart for me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.” Rom 8:26,27 Likewise the Spirit helps us in our weakness. For we do not know what to pray for as we ought, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. Isa 63:10 But they rebelled and grieved his Holy Spirit; Rev 22:17 The Spirit and the Bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price. 2 Cor 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.
@@pietpompiesnr2570 , wow. Praise the Lord Jesus Christ and the Father God. The Holy Spirit is a Person of God in these Scriptures you have given. I know them all, and was going to also write them, but I see them posted by you. Thank you for these awesome scriptures that prove that the Holy Spirit has a voice and is a individual Person of the Godhead. Rev 22:17, And the Spirit and the bride say, "Come."
The nature of the Holy Spirit is a mystery but his IDENTITY and his ROLE are not. 1Co 2:10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. The Spirit of God is a part of God as much as the spirit of man is a part of man. The Spirit of God CAN PROCEED FORTH from God (John 15:26) to function as an omnipresent person representing the Father. But since Christ is one with the Father, the Son can also INVEST HIS DIVINE PERSONALITY in this Spirit so that it personifies him BUT DIVESTING his personality of humanity to likewise represent HIMSELF as the HOLY SPIRIT. The HOLY SPIRIT is a DISTINCT PERSONALITY since he is the OMNIPRESENT and INCORPOREAL IDENTITY of the Son. And by this Spirit agency, he can speak as the Son in his omnipresence (Rom 8:9, John 14:23). This ability of the SPIRIT to function as an omnipresent entity can never be copied or imitated by the spirit of man. This OMNIPRESENCE is only an attribute of the Deity through the agency of the Spirit of God.
The Holy Spirit is the fathers presence. His power and wisdom. His understanding, might, counsel, knowledge etc. Isaiah 11:2. This was the image man was created in before the fall. Since we are now born dead, 1st Adam of carnal flesh, we must be born again of the spirit which resurrects us into new life as a new creation, the last Adam a spiritual man. I must decrease (1st Adam) so he can increase (last Adam) by the holy spirit. Most of the gospels is a story of how ALL sons of men are transformed into the Sons of God. All creation yearns for the REVELATION of the SONS of Elohiem. Notice it doesnt say SON in singular. The book of Revelation is about the revealing of the SONS of Elohiem Not just one man. Understanding how to interpret hebrew literature and poetic writing is essential to figuring out the bible. Most of what we've been taught for over 1700 years is a strong delusion.
”The Lord is soon to come. We want that complete and perfect understanding which the Lord alone can give. It is not safe to catch the spirit from another. We want the Holy Spirit, which is Jesus Christ. If we commune with God, we shall have strength and grace and efficiency.” Lt 66-1894.18
The Bible says that God "Jehovah", is Spirit... It also says to, be ye Holy, for I am Holy... Then the Bible goes on to say that God, a Holy Spirit, robed himself in flesh.. The Bible never says God the Holy Spirit, nor does it say God the Son......... The Bible says that, ALL the fulness of the Godhead dwells in the body of Jesus Christ ......
We dont use the word trinity that is globally used but we as Seventhday adventist we use the tern God's Head.... In the Bible another Comforter word by word... so if we will be shaken dont say that we pray to Holy Spirit ...In Bible Matthew 6 everytime we pray we address it to God the Father...
Romans 3:23 states all have sinned and fell short of the glory of God which makes us all sinners, so does that agree with Christ does not put his spirit in sinners?
What is your opinion of this my new study? IN THE GODHEAD THERE ARE ONLY TWO PERSONS: THE FATHER AND THE SON. The Father is bigger than the Son (1Cor11:3). There is no third person in the Godhead, but there are three person(alities, EGW). This truth is in God’s name YHWH: Early Ancient Hebrew: Y = Yad, ARM AND HAND - meaning: Work, Throw, WORSHIP. H = Hey, MAN WITH ARMS RAISED - meaning: LOOK, Reveal, BREATH (Spirit of Father). W = Waw, TENT PEG, NAIL - meaning: ADD, Secure, Hook. H = Hey, MAN WITH ARMS RAISED - meaning: LOOK, Reveal, BREATH (Spirit of Son). “WORSHIP MAN WITH ARMS RAISED ADD MAN WITH ARMS RAISED.” “And it came to pass, when Moses held up his hand, that Israel prevailed; and when he led down his hand, Amalek prevailed. But Moses’ hands were heavy; and they took a stone, and put it under him, and he sat thereon; and Aaron and Hur stayed up his hands, the one on the one side, and the other on the other side; and his hands were steady until the going down of the sun” (Exodus 18:11-12). “ ”… and thou shalt be to him instead of God” (Exodus 4:16). Name “Gabriel” means: “GOD IS MY STRONG MAN”. "And when he had said this, he BREATHED on them, and said unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost" (John 20:22). ALSO IN THE WORD “GOD”, HEBREW “EL”, THERE ARE ONLY TWO PERSONS IN THE GODHEAD and they have the same Spirit. Early Ancient Hebrew: A = El, OX HEAD - meaning: STRONG, POWER, LEADER L = Lam, SHEPHERD STAFF (rod) - meaning: TEACH, YOKE, TO, BIND. AL means: GOD, GOODLY, GREAT, IDOL, MIGHTY ONE, POWER, STRONG. A, OX HEAD, HAS TWO HORNS (powers): THE FATHER AND THE SON. “Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I” (John 14:28). “And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, ALL POWER is given unto me in heaven and in earth” (Matthew 28:18). L = SHEPHERD STAFF (rod) IS GOD’S SPIRIT. “And he shall be thy spokesman unto the people: and he shall be, even he shall be to thee instead of a mouth, and thou shall be to him instead of God. And thou shalt take this ROD in thine hand, wherewith thou shalt do signs” (Exodus 4:16-17). "But THE COMFORTER, which is THE HOLY GHOST, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall TEACH you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you" (John 14:26).
'The Living Voice of the Lord's Witnesses' - direct quotes from the Pioneers of the Seventh Day Adventist Church! READ THEM PEOPLE!! See for yourselves that the Pioneer Church (including Ellen White), were opposed to the Trinity! Nader Mansour speaks in harmony with the Bible AND the Pioneers!!!!!
Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead, who would come with no modified energy, but in the fullness of divine power. ...brother could you please explain why mrs. white is stating "third person of the Godhead?" thank you
The Power of God in the Third Person-The prince of the power of evil can only be held in check by the power of God in the third person of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit.-Special Testimonies, Series A, 10:37. (1897).
We need to realize that the Holy Spirit, who is as much a person as God is a person, is walking through these grounds.-Manuscript 66, 1899 (From a talk to the students at the Avondale School.). { Ev 616.5} The Holy Spirit is a person, for He beareth witness with our spirits that we are the children of God. When this witness is borne, it carries with it its own evidence. At such times we believe and are sure that we are the children of God.... { Ev 616.6} The Holy Spirit has a personality, else He could not bear witness to our spirits and with our spirits that we are the children of God. He must also be a divine person, else He could not search out the secrets which lie hidden in the mind of God. “For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.”-Manuscript 20, 1906. { Ev 617.1} The prince of the power of evil can only be held in check by the power of God in the third person of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit.-Special Testimonies, Series A, No. 10, p. 37. (1897). { Ev 617.2} We are to co-operate with the three highest powers in heaven,-the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost,-and these powers will work through us, making us workers together with God.-Special Testimonies, Series B, No. 7, p. 51. (1905). { Ev 617.3}
all of your quotes are from the book, evangelism which is a compilation of Leeroy Froom who manipulated it to support the heresy about the Holy Spirit.
In Christ, the great Witness of the Father, dwelt the fulness of the godhead; and as he was, so are we to be in this world. He said, "I will not leave you comfortless; I will come to you." And in the person of the Holy Spirit, Christ dwells in the hearts of his people. GCB/GCDB 1897, page 55.10
God the Father in His being, is a Spirit. Spirit has no flesh and bones. And as a Spirit being, God the Father, has also a spirit, in fact God has seven Spirits. Jesus, after his resurrection, had assume glorified and spiritual body and this body has also a Spirit or Jesus's Spirit. Simply speaking, both the Father and the Son have spirits in themselves. Let us remember that all spirits ( to include the Spirit of Jesus) originates or emanates from God the Father ( example the spirit of life that God breathe to Adam and God gave to all humans/ creations to have life or sustained life). Since all spirits, to include the Spirit of Jesus, come/ emanates from God. It is but fitting, as a matter of respect, courtesy to the Father that Jesus had to ask permission from the Father if he (Jesus) wants to send His Spirit to his disciple/ believers, to comfort them or guide them to the truth and strengthen them in times of persecution. Of course, the Father being the source of all spirits, does not need permission to send His (Father) spirit/s to all his creations from Jesus, as Jesus does to the Father The Comforter was called the Holy Spirit because Jesus spirit is holy (as the Father is Holy also). The Comforter or Helper is the Holy Spirit of Jesus that Jesus sent to his disciple with the permission of the Father. The Holy Spirit, it maybe the Spirit of the Father or of Jesus, is not another person of God because they are integral part, substance, composition, etc. to the spiritbbeing of the Father and the Son.
1. "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you ANOTHER Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever" Do you have any good reference that Jesus acctualy meant it is not another person but himself? 2. "Unless I go away, the Advocate will not come to you; but if I go, I will send HIM to you." So Jesus said He will send him (meaning someone else) not himself. Is that correct or do you have any good explanaiton why Jesus really meant himself instead of him?
Yes, if you keep reading he says I will not leave you comfortless I will come to you. Watch my video called the parable of the comforter for more details if you like.
@@androv2749 When studying the Bible we must read those passages that are on the same topic. All of these must be understood to agree. Love GOD LOVE others Follow Jesus. We SDA studied the Trinity for decades before ageing it was true. NLT Jhn 16:13 -19 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own but will tell you what he has heard. He will tell you about the future. He will bring me glory by telling you whatever he receives from me. All that belongs to the Father is mine; this is why I said, ‘The Spirit will tell you whatever he receives from me.’ Sadness Will Be Turned to Joy “In a little while you won’t see me anymore. But a little while after that, you will see me again.” Some of the disciples asked each other, “What does he mean when he says, ‘In a little while you won’t see me, but then you will see me,’ and ‘I am going to the Father’? And what does he mean by ‘a little while’? We don’t understand.” Jesus realized they wanted to ask him about it, so he said, “Are you asking yourselves what I meant? I said in a little while you won’t see me, but a little while after that you will see me again. All that belongs to the Father is mine; this is why I said, ‘The Spirit will tell you whatever he receives from me.’ So you are not listening and reading to all the verses. Just like many people you pick some and ignore others. KJV Jhn 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: Then the passages ends. None of the points you add are there. Also the Holy Spirit is called a he. A force is never called a he. KJV Jhn 16:12 -17 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you. A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father. Then said some of his disciples among themselves, What is this that he saith unto us, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me: and, Because I go to the Father? Remember after Jesus died on the cross. He rose again and visited with the Disciples for 40 days. Then left to go to heaven.
The Father is Spirit. Christ is a fully spiritualized, divinized Man ( 1 Tim. 2:5 ), conceived by the holy Spirit - Son of God / Son of Man. Re: Christ Jesus, "It is sewn a natural body, but it is raised a spiritual BODY". Christ remains VISIBLE, and yet he can move through solid objects, and he can vanish (as with the Emmaus disciples when He broke bread with them). The Father, SPIRIT, is INVISIBLE ( Col.1:15). We must make this distinction. 1 Cor. 15:44. Jesus remains the VISIBLE image of the invisible God, the effulgence of the Father's glory in His exalted state..Yes? The Scriptures speak of "the spirit of the Father" ( and the "spirit of Christ", and we have this in Gal. 4:6: And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father". Notice it says the spirit OF His Son. Not "His Son, the spirit. There is also "the Spirit of adoption, Romans 8:15. I am not aware of any scripture that teaches that the "spirit of His (the Father's) Son is omnipresent. i.e, "If any man have not the spirit of Christ, he is none of His". He (His spirit) dwells individually in the believer, and corporately in His Body, the ecclesia.Yes? Clearly, there are those who DO NOT have the spirit of Christ. This is my understanding after nearly half a century since my conversion to Christ and correlating washing of regeneration and renewing of the holy Spirit (the presence and power/action of God).
Worshipping Trinity on the Seventh-day is not in keeping with the FOURTH COMMANDMENT. Those who think that they will not receive the mark of the beast simply by worshipping on the seventh day, while worshipping Trinity, do not know what worship in Spirit and in Truth is. The SABBATH TRUTH is not just about the DAY OF WORSHIP, but equally WHO is worshipped on that day.
Well what about Genesis 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
I am SDA but what you do regarding the verse. Blasphemy against the Father is forgiven and blasphemy against the Son is forgiven but blasphemy against the Holy Spirit can’t be forgiven. How can we understand that passage.
So first off, we have to look at the context. Christ was healing people The jews said it was by the power of devils that Christ was performing these miracles. Now the holy spirit is the agent, from God himself, used to convict us of sin, used for healing, understanding of scripture, and in today's world, to be our comforter. To make the claim that this spirit is of Satan and to constantly reject its convicting power to bring us back to the father through christ, is a blasphemy that can not be forgiven by God or his son.
Thanks brother for your exelent explanation. Why there is so much confusion about the bible, why one says it is correct and one says it wrong. Why there are so many denominations, why there is so many different interpretations, the question is which church we should trust, for everyday ,everyone comes up with new things. This has created a lot of confusion, forcing one to believe god or not, one thinks it is better to be non believer in god. But there is only one solution to this huge confusion and that is the teachings of Jesus Christ. Yes, it is life, beneficial for everyone in their everyday life, it is inwardness, it is by which one is transformed to do good, yes it helps us everybody to do good deeds, it helps us to love one another, yes the reality is that it comes through the heart, the circumcised heart, inwardness, not the uncircumcised heart who observe sabbath, gods festivals, rituals, traditions these are only outwardness. Experience the reality of the the teachings of Jesus Christ, it is a peacemaker. This is what new covenant is all about. The reality. There is only one powerful word that Jesus taught and that is love, no matter what, love is everything, without love there is nothing. Observing sabbath, god's festivals, rituals tradition , these things are just outwardness, nothing can be achieved from it. It is useless. Jesus did not beg people to observe these things, but said, LOVE, YES IT IS LOVE, LOVE IS THE FULFILMENT OF LAW. PLEASE READ THE GOSPEL THE COMPLETE NEW TESTAMENT, TRY YOUR BEST TO UNDERSTAND WHAT JESUS TAUGHT , CONFUSION WILL GO AWAY. WHAT MATTERS IS, THAT ONE SHOULD CHANGE, TRANSFORMED. AND THE ONLY POWERFUL TRANSFORMER IS JESUS CHRIST. READ THE BIBLE ON YOUR OWN, OTHERWISE YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO COME OUT OF CONFUSION. BRING JESUS IN YOU, FOR WE ARE HIS TEMPLE THAT WAS BUILD IN THREE DAYS. GO TO THE TEACHER JESUS CHRIST ONLY, NOT ANY OTHER TEACHER. THE HONEST, TRUSTWORTHY, LOVING TEACHER IS ONLY JESUS CHRIST. READ ON YOU OWN TRY YOUR BEST, THE TEACHER WILL DEFINITELY GIVE FULL MARKS AND YOU WILL DEFINITELY KNOW THE TRUTH, AND THE TRUTH WILL SET YOU FREE. MAY THE LORD JESUS AND HIS POWER BE WITH YOU. AMEN.
The Bible says Jesus is GOD. Since there is only one GOD. Then he and the Father are one GOD. Jesus is GOD. John 1:1-18 Says the word is GOD the word is Jesus. Read Psalm 2. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Jeremiah 32:18 Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is his name, John 1:1-5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of
Why the confusion? Because Satan uses, the desires of mankind's flesh, to lead him astray. The flesh has a desire to be lifted up. The flesh has a desire to be wise. The flesh has a desire, to please itself. The heart is deceivefully wicked, that no man can know it. In the flesh, lies no good thing. Walk in the spirit, and you will not fulfill, the desires of the flesh. There's preaching under the annointing of the Holy Spirit, that will always reveal what is true. The HOLY SPIRIT is the SPIRIT of TRUTH. Read 1 Corinthians chapter 12 and 13. Please LORD GOD send us Annointed PREACHERS. PEACE and AMEN.
If you love me, you will keep my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper, to be with you forever, even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you (John 14:15-17). This is another helper, one who is like Jesus who is the 1st helper.
@@victormitchell6681 why? If I had 10 cents for every argument that has been presented i would be wealthy. This is just another way Satan is using to divide.
1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. The Spirit is distinct but the three are one
After belonging to our dear Seventh Day Adventist Church for 38 years, and fiercely defending the Trinity, this humble and wise man, Nader Mansour, totally convinced me that it is a false doctrine; and a very dangerous one, indeed.
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Go. And teach all nations what I have commanded you, And baptize them in the name of the Father, The name of the Son, and of The Holy Spirit... - Are you okay Nader?
Neither, don't you see your listeners are confused? confuse a little more than you... And when they all get to your level, then they can confuse others too...
Sorry Nader but this looks more like mormon´s doctrine, and yes you can find in the bible some examples about The Holy Spirit one of them its in Acts chapter one.
You used a quote from a letter by Mr. Roberts to Ellen White where she rebuked him for calling the angel Gabriel the Holy Spirit... telling Him that I is a mystery and cannot simply be explained, but here you are trying to do the same exact thing that Robert's was rebuked for doing... have a blessed day my brother.
Once you eliminate the grammer of John 14,15 and Paul's words that "The Holy spirit says", what are you left with? dozens upon dozens of mentions of the terms 'God's Spirit'! Its HIS, it belongs to and is sent at HIS bidding! Plus Num 11:17 is great! "I will take some of the spirit I have given you ( Moses) and give it to them ( 70!). 'The Good news bible. Same in Acts 2:18 "I will pour out some of my spirit" ( NEB ). How can a 'person' be sub devided into 70 and then 120 people? A 'person'? NO!
When Good created us (adam in the beginning) he gave us a Holy spirit. He gave us free will and when this free will listen to the desire of the flesh and earthly desires, our holy spirit turned unholy spirit. When we repent and get salvation through Christ he clothed us with a new Holy spirit that is sinless.
1John 2:1-4 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1John 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 1John 2:3,4 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 1John 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. 1John 5:2,3 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous. We Seventh day Adventist teach to follow the bible. To love GOD and to love others.
@@samuelwilliams1559 He taught about original sin that everyone are born sinners which means even Children are automatically sinners and that everyone is without sin ( have paul met everyone on earth? I doubt it 😒). He is the one formulating the concept of trinity. Paul is not the 12th apostle, Matthias is. Paul is the false apostle mentioned in Revelation. He is the one responsible for the Catholic system of religion and other pagan practices in Christianity.
The 1290 day prophecy in Daniel 12:11 calls the Trinitarians' effort to plug up the non-trinitarians by the roots starting from 508AD as the Abomination of Desolation.
Your general criticism of Pentecostals, does not apply to all of them. For example: Oneness Pentecostals do not believe the Holy Spirit is a different person different from The Father (and Jesus). Yet they speak in tongues also. It does not come from Satan.
You also quoted 2 Corinthians 3:17 where it mentions "Christ be that Spirit" but when you read the chapter it also says God's people are His Epistle... how could that be? Unless it was referring to them walking in His character, revealing His character throughout the lands... accepting and obeying His word... verse 18 says we are changed into His image/glory the more we behold Him... and are changed into His image/glory... character was the context... not Christ being The Holy Spirit...
when will this denomination grow up and leave childish things aside ... Many arguments are worthless and as powerless to save as gods of hindu ... God is beyond our human finite understanding.... and He doesn't want us to waste all time trying to unveil what He has left hidden ... some of these things will never be revealed in all eternity... but enough has been to our salvation ... its wise to ask how we are saved and not try to define what is the nature of God ... who can know it ...?? even angels do not know everything... They have to want patiently for God to reveal it ... who are we ... mortals ... much more fallen ... to thing we can and make these small issues a mountain and issues of life and death ... what does it matter to me ... a sinner struggling with various lusts and temptations as to what Nature of God is ...? what every soul need is a revelation of a saviour ( jesus) and a practical was of overcoming ( instilling of the spirit) and the means of attaining it ... (faith) Let move on to mature things ... God is not so damn as to throw on us issues which will not help us ... These arguments are kindled from pits of hell and it's good to as ... have I been cleansed from all sins ... have I been fitted for heaven ... There is a reason why nature of God is not made the absorbing theme of scriptures... and here silence is golden .... Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore and teach all NATIONS baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, and of the SON, and of the HOLY SPIRIT ... let us not be so damn as to start questioning what that means ... Go and do as told ... accepting simple statements... and concentrate on important point .... How beautiful would it have been ... was this a merciful pleading with sinners to return to their creator .... shame on us ... for been so trivial...
Agree! We cant never fully understand the Godhead. We just have to accept it whats written in the scriptures. Our focus now are to be ready for Jesus 2nd coming
The identity of God is Milk not Meat! So if it's hard to chew, there will be problems when you are given meat as we have seen done in the Church since Ellen's passing to Rest. Present Truth includes Milk - like content but is Meat because it captures more than the foundation and meat can never be fully digestible until milk is fully digestible. Sometimes Milk is needed in digestion for the Meat process to continue because it was lost or forgotten. Prophecy and Current events are Meat. Milk is the first form of food fit for the digestion to prepare one's inexperience. There is no Truth more critical and imminent for Salvation than the knowledge of God's Identity. Father and Son and their one Spirit is to be taught before anything else which makes it Milk. Meat comes after Milk Not Before. The identity of the Godhead is needed before experience can properly digest anything else or digest Meat! Yes, Truth condemns error. As a people representative of God, Why have we lost the Authority and strength in our surety and duty in exposing error without the inclination to apologize for it. I'm sickened in all my hearing SDA's usage of their sword while apologizing or claiming its not meant to cut anybody personally, only systems. Systems don't need cutting with the word, people do. Souls inherit Christ not systems. The only Nation prophesied saved is Christ's. It is not our right to minimize the cutting process by denying its existence and relevance. the word cuts, divides. Its like back slapping somebody to attack a way of thought but smile and say " this isn't meant to attack your way of thinking" We aren't here to correct do's and don't but ways of thinking. Calling a thing not fit in intention to offend doesn't mean it will not. If Truth it will offend. I t will offend until accepted known and lived. This Video is offensive and should be offensive. I have never accepted Truth without my error or way of thinking offended or anyone else without their error or thinking offended. The word is meant to cut at the conscience. We are playing the "not step on toes game" that the rest of the world is doing. Truth is Truth. Its offensive and let be so! I'm not suggesting to offend on a personal level as in stepping outside of Scripture or having the wrong intent in sharing. Scripture spoken is offensive, just and calling! " This isn't meant to offend you" unless You need to be offended Because if you have the Truth error will never offend but if you are in error you will always find a way to be offended until you Buy the Truth (test it) and sell it not! Powerful Message in Video! Nadour, You Know your scripture. Thank you for offending me out of Babylon!
So if you acknowledge EGW, then what is this? You can even ask White Estate to show you the original manuscript. You cannot accept certain things from her writings, you take the whole or discard the whole: Personality of the Holy Spirit-We need to realize that the Holy Spirit, who is as much a person as God is a person, is walking through these grounds.-Manuscript 66, 1899 (From a talk to the students at the Avondale School.). - {Ev 616.5} The Holy Spirit is a person, for He beareth witness with our spirits that we are the children of God. When this witness is borne, it carries with it its own evidence. At such times we believe and are sure that we are the children of God.... - {Ev 616.6} The Holy Spirit has a personality, else He could not bear witness to our spirits and with our spirits that we are the children of God. He must also be a divine person, else He could not search out the secrets which lie hidden in the mind of God. “For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.”-Manuscript 20, 1906. - {Ev 617.1} The Power of God in the Third Person-The prince of the power of evil can only be held in check by the power of God in the third person of the Godhead, the Holy Spirit.-Special Testimonies, Series A, No. 10, p. 37. (1897). - {Ev 617.2} In Co-operation With the Three Highest Powers-We are to co-operate with the three highest powers in heaven,-the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost,-and these powers will work through us, making us workers together with God.-Special Testimonies, Series B, No. 7, p. 51. (1905). - {Ev 617.3}
Balázs Kunkli Thank you for speaking truth. This speaker is an agent of Satan. Smooth words and twisting the truth to fit his bias. My bias is the Word of God and the truth He gave his prophet, Ellen White. We blaspheme if we put our human understanding above God's Word or His prophets. We must accept all of Sister White's writings or accept none of it, as you stated. We can't pick and choose just what is easy and FEELS good to us.
To understand the mystery of One God, is to Understand the Mystery of One Church. Is One church a single person? No. Is One Church singular? Yes. When we observe Genesis 1:1: In the beginning, God (H430) created the heaven and the earth. When we visit the Strongs H430 link, we'll see that in this case, God is plural. (Elohiym). When we observe Genesis 1:26, it says, "And God said, Let US make man in OUR image, after OUR likeness: ..... When we observe Genesis 2:24, we will see that Adam and Eve became ONE flesh. Adam and Even is now ONE, even though that ONE is made up of two, Husband and Wife. Genesis 3:22.... Lord God (Jehovah speaking) said, Behold, the man is become as one of US, to know good and evil:... Jehovah has His Office as One yet the Three are One. Adam is an individual, Yet Adam and Eve are One. Observe another example in Genesis 11:1-4....Verse 4: And they said, Got to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth. "Come let us", plurality of people working in unity. Genesis 11:6: And the Lord said, Behold, the people is ONE, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do. "people are one" , "they all have one language" Genesis 11:7 Got to, let US go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. NOW, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS READ GENESIS 18, and 19. And we would be CONVINCED that God is actually THREE in Unity. In Genesis 18, you would see God appearing in the Form of Three Men to Abraham. In Revelation 4:8 We see, ..... HOLY, HOLY, HOLY, Lord God Almighty.... Ever wondered why its necessary to Mention Holy Three times? John 10:30. Jesus said: I and my Father are ONE. Matthew 3:16, 17. And Jesus, when He was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and lo, the heavens were opened unto Him, and He saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon Him: And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my Beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Ladies and Gentlemen, The Word Trinity does not exist in the Bible, But it seems Biblical to me. 1 John 5:7 For there are Three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are ONE.
What book are you referencing “vol.2, Book...? Also, would you say the early writings of EGW, “End of the 2300 Days”, EW 54.2, 55.1, 56.1; would be in support to the topics in your sermon? God Bless you brother Nader
Revelation 3:1 To the angel of the congregation in Sarʹdis write: These are the things that he says who has the seven spirits of God Revelation 4:5, 6 From the throne were coming lightning and voices and thunders; and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, and these mean the seven spirits of God. Before the throne was something resembling a glassy sea, like crystal. Revelation 5:6 elders a lamb that seemed to have been slaughtered, having seven horns and seven eyes, and the eyes mean the seven spirits of God that have been sent out into the whole earth.
Thank you brother for clear teaching. Many years ago I made a great discovery after being brought up in a trinitarian church. Jesus himself said, John 14:18 "I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you."
That is called the Johannen comma. Research shows that the passage is not found in any original Greek but rather in some later Latin versions. I am not interested in what Latin versions of the bible have to say.
1John could not have stated this. The same book of the bible states that indeed our fellowship is with the Father and his Son Jesus Christ. The Johannine comma contradicts this statement which proves the Johannine comma does not belong in scripture. John could not possibly have left out a whole person of the Godhead.
@@denny1650 how do you explain how Jesus refers to the Holy Spirit as a "He" for he says, "Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth...". And how do you answer that at our Lord's baptism ...scripture portrays God the Father as being in heaven, God the Spirit as descending like a dove, and God the Son as being Baptized? Finally, I read once in the bible where the prophet said, if I lift up my eyes in hell ...there you [speaking of God], you will be also. How can God be described as being in hell and yet not in the heart of sinners? If God is omnipresent...would he not be their also. I know that in the last days the Spirit of God is to be withdrawn from the world in some sense, but must nit they have the Spirit if it is to be withdrawn? Please help me by answering these as I truly want to worship the one true biblical God as taught by Jesus. I was taught that the false trinity is the Dragon, the Beast, and the false prophet. He appears to be saying that there is only Jesus and the Father. How can one be sure in light of the scriptures that I sighted?
I just gave most of this reply to Nelson Mercado. I hope it helps. If a doctrine contradicts any part of the bible it must be false. Examine Luke 10:22 New King James Version (NKJV) 22 All[a] things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows who the Son is except the Father, and who the Father is except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.” This statement declares there is no one else. How can we make the Holy Spirit a 3rd person without calling Christ a liar. Wouldn't the Holy Spirit have to know the Son and the Father if He was a 3rd person along with the Father and the Son? This passage will not allow for a 3rd person. To accept trinitarian doctrine is to make Christ a liar. 1 John 1:3 New King James Version (NKJV) that which we have seen and heard we declare to you, that you also may have fellowship with us; and truly our fellowship is with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ. John would never have left out a whole person of the trinity. John 16:32 -Indeed the hour is coming, yes, has now come, that you will be scattered, each to his own, and will leave Me alone. And yet I am not alone, because the Father is with Me. (one is with Christ, not 2) If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would have no sin; but now they have seen and also hated both Me and My Father.(John15:24)-again where is that 3rd person? I believe Jesus was speaking figuratively about the Holy Spirit when He used pronouns that made it sound as if the Holy Spirit was another person. Not long after He said many things about the Holy Spirit we see this verse-John16:2 “These things I have spoken to you in figurative language, but the time is coming when I will no longer speak to you in figurative language, but I will tell you plainly about the Father. This tells us that various things up to this point could have been figurative language. We can't take everything literally that messiah spoke. John 6:53-56 53 Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink His blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. 55 For My flesh is [a]food indeed, and My blood is [b]drink indeed. 56 He who eats My flesh and drinks My blood abides in Me, and I in him. You see the problems if we take everything messiah said literally. 2 Corinthians 3:14-18 But their minds were blinded. For until this day the same veil remains unlifted in the reading of the Old Testament, because the veil is taken away in Christ. 15 But even to this day, when Moses is read, a veil lies on their heart. 16 Nevertheless when one turns to the (Lord), the veil is taken away. 17 Now the (Lord) is the Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as [b]by the Spirit of the Lord. It is clear that Paul is calling Jesus the Holy Spirit. Many many places in the new testament it refers to the Holy Spirit as just Spirit as we see here. Another thing to look at is how Paul consistantly greeted the churches in his letters. He constantly used phrases like grace and peace unto you from God the Father(or our Father) and his Son the Lord Jesus Christ. How could any trinitarian believer consistently bring attention to 2 members of the Godhead and leave the other unsaid? It just cannot be. Count how many times Paul spoke this way.(a lot of times, only one time did he use Father, Son and Holy Spirit in a phrase) 1Peter 1:10-12 10 Concerning this salvation, the prophets, who spoke of the grace that was to come to you, searched intently and with the greatest care, 11 trying to find out the time and circumstances to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when he predicted the sufferings of the Messiah and the glories that would follow. 12 It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves but you, when they spoke of the things that have now been told you by those who have preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things. We know the prophets of old spoke by the Holy Spirit and Peter in this passage is calling that the Spirit of Christ. About Jesus' baptism: My understanding is that the Father obviously speaks this is my beloved Son, ect.. When I read about the Spirit decending as a dove I see that as the figurative display to us that the Father is sending down his very spiritual presence to be with his Son.(Remember that Christ said in john16:32-Indeed the hour is coming, yes, has now come, that you will be scattered, each to his own, and will leave Me alone. And yet I am not alone, because the Father is with Me.) Didn't He just identify the dove. I believe the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Father. But it's also the Spirit of the Son. Corinthians 6:17 But he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.( If the believer is one spirit with the Lord then Jesus is one spirit with the Father.)(Isn't that what Christ ment when He said I and my Father are one?-1 spirit) About God's spirit being in the heart of sinners: We know his Spirit is here convicting sinners but his Spirit can't really come into the heart until one repents. I don't think God's Spirit will leave the world before Christ comes back because some of his servants will still be here when He comes back and He said He would never leave us or forsake us.(Christ is with us in spirit.) I pray that the LORD JESUS by his Spirit will reveal to you the truth. Amen
In the church we belonged to before we moved, the pastor and his family believed that the trinity had 3 positions that were roles played by the triune God. The roles were chosen by them, so the Father wasn't really the Father, He had only chosen that role. Crazy. Even when I believed in the trinity, I never believed that. Edit: This was an Adventist church.
Jesus is GOD. John 1:1-18 Says the word is GOD the word is Jesus. Read Psalm 2. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Jeremiah 32:18 Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is his name, John 1:1-5 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me. Logos, ( Greek: “word,” “reason,” or “plan”) plural logoi, in Greek philosophy and theology, the divine reason implicit in the cosmos, ordering it and giving it form and meaning. Though the concept defined by the term logos is found in Greek, Indian, Egyptian, and Persian philosophical and theological systems, it became particularly significant in Christian writings and doctrines to describe or define the role of Jesus Christ as the principle of God active in the creation and the continuous structuring of the cosmos and in revealing the divine plan of salvation to man. It thus underlies the basic Christian doctrine of the preexistence of Jesus. www.britannica.com/topic/logos Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Hebrews 1:8-11 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. and, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; GOD is our Savior. Titus 1:3,4 But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour; To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour. Titus 2:10 Not purloining, but shewing all good fidelity; that they may adorn the doctrine of God our Saviour in all things. Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Titus 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,
I thought best explanation of holy is that it is sacred, meaning it CANNOT ever be changed. it is a sacred holy thing , be it spirit ,name etc...of course spirit would pertain to purpose ,either jesus's purpose or Jehovah's which of course in the main are identical
Great information and insight on this video. I wish you could just reference Scripture and not the writings of EGW. I have a hard time sharing the video for that reason.
How do you explain the Third Person of the Godhead? "The Spirit was to be given as a regenerating agent, and without this the sacrifice of Christ would have been of no avail. The power of evil had been strengthening for centuries, and the submission of men to this satanic captivity was amazing. Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead, who would come with no modified energy, but in the fullness of divine power. " DA 671
Why does Ellen White call the Holy Spirit the third person of the godhead? Sin could be resisted and overcome only through the mighty agency of the Third Person of the Godhead, who would come with no modified energy, but in the fullness of divine power. DA 671
Trinitarians accept the mode of 3 distinction of 3 persons in the so called godhead but can't accept the oneness view of God manifestations of son & spirit...same person. I don't worship 3 in 1 but 1,Jesus Christ=GOD
Holy Spirit deniers, make sure you do not sin against that Holy Spirit that you think does not exist.. If speaking against the holy spirit cannot be forgiven, what about denying Him? - All of you listeners - don't you know how to read the Bible yourself and the Spirit of Prophecy? Can you reason and think on your own?
The Jesus of history became the Christ of experience when He came forth from the tomb after having died unto sin once, ascended on high in a real yet spiritual body, and then returned in the person of the Holy Spirit, the Comforter, to make effective in believers what He had wrought out for them. Thus Jesus of Nazareth became "Christ in you, the hope of glory SOTW 12.4
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit that came from God. That spirit is called the Spirit of Truth. God is a Spirit and he cannot lie. So basically what I'm saying is it's God's nature. It's his nature that he is holy and true. Just the same as Christ nature. Christ came with full of grace and truth. Peter said it in 2 Peter 1:4 being partakers of the divine nature. So what did Christ promised us? He promised us that he will send another helper the Spirit of Truth and he will teach and lead us to all truth.
It's not another being but it's The Father and Christ nature (divine nature) of who they are. They are not liars. So been baptized in with the Spirit of Truth we are now are partakers of the divine nature of Truth. And then will our eyes be open and see once the holy spirit comes in us what Christ was saying and teach us the truth of God.
Yep.........Jesus sent HIMSELF. The Holy Spirit is JESUS (Truth/Way/Life). Christ in you the hope of glory. Col 1:27..........not just a force but JESUS in us. Jesus is God. Thus the Holy Spirit is God. John 14:23.........My Father and I will make our abode in you. John 14:16.........I will ask the Father and He will send another comforter ........and He will dwell in you. One God............Occupying one place, your heart.
I could hardly believe that quote myself, but downloaded the document and verified that it is there. "Lucifer is divine and terrestrial light, the 'Holy Ghost' and 'Satan,' at one and the same time, visible Space being truly filled with the differentiated Breath invisibly;" Blavasky, Secret Doctrine, Vol. 2, Page 513
You can certainly understand it. Everything is black and white; no shades of gray. You are either for Christ or against him. That is not that hard to figure out. Only the devil convolutes the issues. . . similar to that of a lawyer or legislator.
Jacquelyn sure. you trade the devil. Jesus did not allow the demons to speak about Him being the son of God as he has not appointed satan His agent...and neither did apostle Paul when the possesed girl presumed to affirm him as a servant of the most hight...God will not allow Satan to speak for Him...
Dear Nader, I love how you explain the Bible, however I must point out that the NT was revised by the CC in the latter fourth century after the trinity was formulated by them. There are many verses that attest to this. The most obvious is John 10:30 “I and my Father are one”. Jesus never even spoke these words and the proof is in verse 36 Say you oh him whom the Father has sanctified and sent into the world, you blaspheme, BECAUSE I SAID I am the Son of God?. Even at his trial the Jews never accused Jesus of making himself God, they accused him of making himself the Son of God John 29:7.😊😊
Bible:There is a way that seems right to a man but the end result thereof a death. Bible:My people perish from lack of knowledge - Human qoute: the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
I pretty much guarantee that you will lose heaven by denying the Holy Spirit... But how are you gonna be rewarded for those that you DECEIVED "kept" from going to heaven?
Hi again Nader, i am suggesting your channel to everyone who is asking. But i have 1 question that puzzles me a bit. Peter said there is Three who are witness in heaven, the father , the son and the spirit. I know the verse is altered when is states that these three are one. But as i understand, the first part of it is true. Can you please help me understand why peter refered to the spirit as a 3rd person here? It is crucial for my teachings to other and as you said we need people to know the truth so the kingdom might come. Thank you.
It was John, not Peter. 1 John 5:7. The Holy Spirit is indeed a person. It is God's Omnipresence. It is not a different person from that of the Father and of the Son.
