@FNAF NEONGAMING You can just make sure to remove the arms, then you will be able to add in the left and right eye under the torso menu, and weapons under the thruster arm menu
I think it was the other way around, GAI made houshold appliance before the Mr Handy I think that they would needed an expert in robotics like Robert House or someone that had or will have a connection with RobCo, and so the Mr Handy was a disputed property between the two companies I think it would be cool if it was a young Robert House that made them, but GAI took all the rights of the Mr Handy and this is why Robert made his own company, like Disney and "Oswald the Rabbit" Robert House went to the C.I.T. somehow, even though he lost his inheritance money to his half-brother, He needed to have work at a young age maybe he help with making the first Mr Handy Robot?
@@ivarisalie8759 because to Robert House, he is RobCo it doesn’t matter that the company was made 5 years after, to him if he made it while working for General Atomics it belongs to him and by extension to RoboCo, because he made it, the same way Disney claimed Oswald even though the Walt Disney Co was made latter
Simple, RobCo made theirs under license. We see this in cars all the time. The Suzuki Swift and the Geo Metro. One company licenses a product from another, very common.
0311Mushroom that's actually re-badging and grey importing most times. Take the Mitsubishi starion/Chrysler conquest for example. Mitsubishi makes the cars, doesn't badge them, then sells them to Chrysler for bulk prices more or less, then Chrysler badges them as their own and sells them with a cut going to Mitsubishi. This helps to get a larger market and sell to those who otherwise wouldn't buy It (ya know, the Americans who refuse to buy anything other than american cars, so they buy the Chrysler because they're too ignorant to realize that it's just a Mitsubishi mascarading as an American car), so win-win. Mitsubishi sells more cars and Chrysler gets to sell cars that required very little tooling, material and labor to "make". And more often than not, this is what most companies that have almost identical platforms do. One makes it and the others help sell it, no snece in two or three companies needing to make all the tooling for a car when someoine else is already building them at their own factory. Oh, and some companies will make some parts and the other will make the rest. Look at the ford rangers/Mazda b series pickups, ford engines and Mazda transmissions (for the standard transmissions at least).
I think it's more of a manufacturing rights like what you have with the Russian T34, many countries make them doesn't mean there Russian. It could be General atomics is selling the rights to manufacture and sell Mr. handy robots as well as the rights to modify them to Robco.
In WW2 the Willys MB and the Ford GPW were both Jeeps. Ford made them too as Willys couldn't keep up with wartime demand. Perhaps something similar happened.
That is my headcanon too. It just makes the best of both worlds, since the continuity error is gone and both companies kinda created it. We could also assume that Robert House created all the specialized Mr. Handys. We never see a regular Mr Handy or Mrs Nanny in a industrial or military setting, while also never seeing a non-specialized version of that bot in a household or civilian function. So my headcanon would be that he sold the blueprints, became influential, gathered enough money to found his own company after 5 years of working on new robots and then he simply bought enough Stock to make sure he can modify the Mr. Handy. That could also explain why GA begins a Mrs. Nanny project! Since RobCo now get's all the contracts for their new robots and the modified Handys they want an alternative that is all theirs, so they try to built the Mrs. Nanny. I think it just works enough to be a satisfying conclusion.
@@Baalslegion07 I’d go the opposite direction: he probably sold the base model, (we shall guess it’s Mr handy) and they then specialized the tooling. It’s easier to adapt a design than to specifically build something from the ground up for a role. Additionally he probably sold them the parent data and got his capital through royalties.
I like this. I think I’d add that maybe they sought him out after he made something interesting in terms of robotics. Maybe something for a science fair type of deal? They asked for his input to break into the robotics industry and he wisely chose to keep some kind of joint patent that allowed him to use the internals in future projects but GA got to keep the specific models. Later after founding rob co he worked with them to set up a manufacturing facility on the west coast, which is why we see RobCo brand Mr Handy’s in the Mojave. I’d like to think House ended up as a kind of trusted advisor or honorary board member for GA which is what kept him from crushing them into the dirt like he did with other companies.
is it too much of a stretch that RobCO wrote the software for the Mr. Handy after the company was founded? I mean it's possible that General Atomics focuses mainly in hardware and once RobCO started up General Atomics outsourced updates to the software to RobCO while RobCO outsourced their manufacturing to General Atomics. Mr. Handys are so versatile I wouldn't doubt that any company wouldn't be against employing them in their office which is why Repcon has them in their building and as maintenance workers. the reason why there is a Mr. Handy on display could be that RobCO perfected the software that Mr. Handy and Mr. Gutsy use as well as Mrs. Handy (eventually). it would make sense that RobCO worked on the software and left the manufacturing to other companies especially if the manufacturing was done by General Atomics who had already been shown as competent enough to make a reliable product they just needed help fixing bugs in the code.
I'm late to the party I know but this is my thought: general atomics originally designed and sold them on the civilian market. Sometime after founding robco Mr. House built them under licence and sold them to industrial users prior to releasing his own line of robots. We never see a robco Mr. Handy in a home and we never see a general atomics unit in an industrial or cooperate setting.
Another idea is maybe Robert House and General Atomics worked together to create the Mr. Handy before he created RobCo, so it would have been a joint effort of Mr. House and General Atomics instead of RobCo and General Atomics and thus why some Mr Handy's are RobCo because Mister House partially owns the design
same thought. A video about Fallout 4 breaking Lore: Negative comments about how shit Fallout 4 was and how it killed the franchise. A video about Fallout before 4 breaking Lore: Constructive thoughts about how to make it work. I do think that we experience a little inbalance in fairness here.
@@ohlala9546 I think a lot of that has to do with people who preferred the RPG elements over the shooting elements letting their personal prejudices get in the way of constructive criticism. Now don't get me wrong, I love the RPG elements of Fallout 3 and New Vegas and can completely understand where people are coming from when they talk about the perk chart being streamlined and what have you. However, the vastly improved gameplay keeps me hooked enough to overlook the perk chart being streamlined. It's very much geared towards a faster-moving play style where you can easily see how each perk could improve or change your gameplay. Now granted, I would like to see options in the next Fallout that maybe adheres to both styles of gameplay that Fallout players love. Perhaps more in-depth RPG choices coupled with the improved gameplay. Now I didn't even discuss the surprising hatred towards the dialogue system but I am personally not bothered by it. I enjoy having a voiced protagonist who can project the feelings of the dialogue option I have chosen. And I can understand why others prefer the written dialogue version because it allows for more gameplay Styles because there is no voice behind it. However, the demand for each dialogue option to be shown in its entirety still baffles me
Shayne Baker The people want to know what a dialogue says to weight it themselfs it it is the right one to pick in the situation. If it just says 'ironic' or other single words, you can interpret a lot into it. I found myself playing fallout 4 and quicksaving before engaging communication because some of the options were as descriptive as calling a person an organic mass. It's not wrong, it's just not descriptive either.
Well, what if Robert House worked for General Atomics at a young age, and split off into his own business, but due to his work on the Mr. Handy he got the rights to it when he split off.
Possibly the rights between the two companies were litigated differently on the west coast vs the east coast. We don't know how much power the provincial governments had before the war, but maybe the courts were considered separate enough to leave two separate rulings with no higher court to resolve the matter, leading to two different producers of the same commercial product.
What if there are 2 different Mr. Handy's. As far as I've seen the ones like codsworth seem to be more advanced and more Ai like rather than robot. Where the ones claiming to be from Rob Co seem to be more programmable and set on one kind of task. For example, the ones in greygarden claim to be Rob Co made and they have spent the last 200 years tending to the gardens. Where codsworth made by General Atomics goes on about his adventures he had while player was in the vault, meaning he could possibly find more purpose, where the others kept to their garden
I agree with your assessment of the History of the Mr. Handy robots and who really made them. The wiki page description is inaccurate. Having said that, I would like to add a little bit of a twist for where the wiki information may be partially correct. Just like in the business world today, companies are always trying to get a monopoly on the market of their focus. In many cases, a takeover usually starts with a merger of two companies. What the public typically doesn't know is that the stronger of the two merging companies takes over the weaker one. The names of the two companies stay the same for marketing and "competition" purposes, but it's really just one company selling two different brands. What RobCo did to RepConn is a more open takeover. But what may have been happening just before the bombs dropped in 2077, was RobCo being in the early stages of a silent merger and eventual takeover of General Atomics, but keeping both brands separate for marketing purposes. The hints are in Fallout 3 with the joint Liberty Prime project, and RobCo distributing the Mr. Gutsy robots. You already identified that Mr. Gutsy is just a re-purposed Mr. Handy, but then you have to wonder why there are the Mr. Gutsy robots showcased at the galleria as products of General Atomics. This is just my thoughts on why the overall information may be confusing to some players of the games, and I wanted to share my perspective on it. Great videos! Keep up the good work!
Matt Patterson this makes a lot of sense, especially if the military were using joint projects as a way to merge the two with Rob Co. being the company to take the lead. Just as the military in fallout 4 was having the Wilson Automatoys factory; creators of the Giddy up Buttercup, and have them produce Fragmentation Mines.
Useful background info for anyone not aware of the fundamental aspects of mergers and acquisitions. Another dynamic that could also apply is the precedent established during WW II of "joint cooperation for the greater good" with the national focus on the Sino-American war. There are numerous examples of companies that were fierce free-market competitors prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor, but made practical decisions to share design and / or production resources on behalf of the war effort - and without need for "cooperative" government contract stipulations.
Just because it couldn't be a "joint venture" doesn't mean that they couldn't both have worked on the same machine. Consider computers today. They are built on operating systems, like Windows or Mac, but require hardware, like NVidia, Intel, HP, whatever, as well as other forms of built-in software, specialized hardware like speakers that might come from another company, whatever. Perhaps GA created the Handy software while Robco and other third parties built hardware.
Directly competing companies can end up on the same govt project and sometimes not know it, too. When I was in the military civilian contractors sometimes worked on projects where they couldn't actually share much of their background together.
Maybe "Mr. Handy" is a specification for a floating multi-armed robot. Kinda like a "car" is a four-wheeled fossil fuel powered vehicle. Similar to how both Ford and General Motors can produce cars, but have their own specific makes, models, and modifications.
Seems to me Mr.Handy is like Chevy/GMC in our timeline Chevys have the same car design/style as a GMC, and same look too Just different companies though.
Morty Smith no it's all general motors. But I agree with the relationship between in my eyes I see them as general atomics being parts people. Robco as the new inavators in robotics and top in robot production.
Possibly the RobCo Sales and Services place changed hands after the military took over from General Atomics in the Robobrain facility. My theory is that they were forced to sell it to RobCo by the military (who of course closely work with RobCo) so the Robobrain research could continue in secret. It was reopened as a RobCo showroom, but was originally used by General Atomics.
I just want to take a moment to thank you for so much FALLOUT lore... i really appreciate the cross reference of all of the other games. Well done. A lot of hard work. ~ 7ohn
What if RobCo was brought on for the personality subroutines? General Atomics created the base Handy models and even the base Gutsy models. Then RobCo came in later for the personality subroutines that allowed for the Handys, Gutsys, and Nannys to perform more specialized tasks and take on a more approachable likeness? And in some specific cases, particular personalities.
It would have to be the other way around, as it's the RobCo robots who are the most lacking in personality, having very monotonous voices and limited cognizance. The only exceptions to that seem to be the founding father robots of the National Archives. Only the Mr. Handy line has a somewhat approachable and relatable character, and is much more 'aware' of its environments and situations. General Atomics seem to be the superior company, but with a more limited selection. RobCo probably got ahead with qualitatively inferior designs by virtue of being the Nintendo to General Atomics's Sega. Sure, the Mega Drive is vastly superior, but the NES is cheap, and to your uncultured parents, an 8-bit machine is as good as a 16-bit one. Likewise, the average metro system or private security force just needs to be 'adequate' and will settle for inferior RobCo products.
That still doesn't explain why RobCo claimed to have come up with he idea of adding more than two arms. It's an error. Face it. Also, it said they co created the Mr. Handy robots. Not that they modified them after release, or made the Mr. Gutsys.
Like I said, REPPCON is lying about their robot display. They might make it sound like RobCo is responsible for the Mr. Handy with some weasely legalese to mislead visitors into thinking all good robots are from RobCo, but that does not make them responsible for them.
Dancing Deity in a world like fallout? Very. it is based on the 50s, with the moral standing mostly standing from that time period A 10 year old working wasn't viewed as a negative thing
clcaptain I'll look in to the day the bombs fell see who did it v.t, t.p.l.a., or the u.s.a. was it a failed offensive somewhere on the front or was it vault tech. Hmmmm
clcaptain that was cut content from fo4 it was going to be part of some video. Hmm strange. I agree the only thing is that there were Chinese nuclear subs around since fallout 1 so what happened
+Daniel McDowell Curie is a proto-type Miss Nanny Robot. She shall even hint at this, when you ask about her. Also, if I am not correct, there is a terminal where you find,her, stating this fact.
I think General Atomics and ROBCO made a joint house bot to combine the convenience of a house worker and the home defense of a soldier since the robot has a flamethrower
Do you think it's possible that the liberty prime terminal meant to read "first colab project since the mr. Handy"? Seems like a rabbit hole, i know but it would help make some pieces line up together.
I think that the production of Mr Handy robots could have gone on to become a joint venture, but at some point after their original release. As with cars and other forms of technology, it is extremely likely that there would have been different model years or generations of Mr Handy's. If this is the case, then it is possible that the earlier generations of Mr Handy were wholly developed and produced by General Atomics, but that the latter models were developed by RobCo, and only produced by General Atomics. This would explain why certain Mr Handy's are referenced as being built and developed by General Atomics, while others are referenced as being developed or programmed by RobCo.
This may be me being stupid but..what if Robco and General atomics are one in the same. What if Robco had made a second company (general atomics) that could stir up some fake competition to make more profit and make more money on the side as well. I mean think about it. Company rivalries are a big boom for profit (samsung vs apple) (pepsi vs coke) it's not too far fetched to assume that house had a second decoy company created to keep sales booming. House was overly aggressive with predators often buying them out and destroying their names. General atomics is the only other robotics competitor he's come across wouldn't they be the first to go in that case? Not unless the company was his.
Like he said, General Atomics put the Mr. Handy on the market before Robco was even made, therefore the company was made first, having more experience and expertise, your theory could be correct. But General Atomics made Robco, not the other way around.
i think it would be more accurate to say that maybe after creating RobCo house bought general atomics, rather than creating it, because it already existed.
This kind of thing breaks laws but still exists even today. There was a businessman who own the chain of restaurants in competition of each other in the same locale and no one even knew until he died and ownership was in the air. No one really checks the money
While I agree with the notion that it is a continuity error, one could, with a bit of creativity and stretched thinking, conjure up a potential explanation even for this. We know the Mr. Handy was made before RobCo existed as a company. Note those last three words, "as a company". Consider that Bill Gates and Paul Allen formed a business partnership in 1975, but "Microsoft" was not registered officially as a company until a year later, and the two of them worked together in an unofficial capacity as software developers for other companies, such as Micro Instrumentation and Telemetry Services (for whom they created the Altair BASIC interpreter), as far back as 1973. Extrapolating on those ideas, it is quite possible that GAI outsourced Robert House to create the Mr. Handy's software packages before RobCo was formed into an official company, and so it wasn't technically considered a "joint project" since Mr. House hadn't yet established RobCo in a formal capacity... but later on, when organizing records on the company's history, Mr. House elected to phrase it as such out of personal ego and pride, and from there began the spread of misinformation.
A bit like ASRock is it's own company nowadays, but started as Asus' department for OEM boards. Or how Globalfoundries started as AMDs manufacturing fabs before outsourced into independence.
So just to clarify what your saying is: Mr.Handy was General Atomic's idea General Atomic asked Robert house to create the personality protocols etc.(before he ever created RobCo) Then at some point created RobCo and swept General Atomic under the rug and said that he created it and it was his idea thus created the mass concussion?
Precisely! An excellent summary of the notion, yes. You win a knapsack full of bottlecaps and a set of Nuka Cola t-sh... wait, no, I've just been informed the courier delivering those has been eaten by an unusually aggressive swarm of molerats. Please accept our apologies for the inconvenience.
Sounds like badge engineering. In Australia, we built Fords, Nissans, Toyotas and GM Holdens. But not a full range of any of them. So many Fords were rebadged nissans, many nissans were rebadged Fords, many holdens were rebadged Toyotas and many Toyotas were rebadged Holdens.
Here’s an idea: when the Chinese invaded anchorage, military demand for Mr.Gutsys exceeded what General Atomics could build, so they temporarily sold the license to RobCo in order to feed the conflict. RobCo Mr. Handys, GA Mr. Handys.
Unfortunately this sort of reading of the lore as immutable doesn't jive with what happens in reality. Whether it's car companies saying they are first to market with a certain feature or just the text of an advertising display written by someone who doesn't know any better the real world is not perfect. I could totally see someone writing that Liberty Prime is their first joint project because they didn't know the history of Mr. Handy. I could also see someone tasked with writing copy for the robot displays including a Mr. Handy because 'it's a robot, and RobCo makes robots, so RobCo made this robot'. None of this is contrary to my experience with a life full of people claiming things are one way and I know them to be wrong. The facility run by RobCo that still uses General Atomics robots? Plenty of companies use competitors' products either because they had them before the takeover, or there are none of their own line that do the exact task that are needed. Between seeing GM sweep the accomplishments of Tesla under the rug because it would complicate their marketing or an entire Eaton facility that uses Parker brand hoses because they have nearly instant turnaround for prototyping things I can imagine plenty of things in my own life that would be described as continuity errors if subjected to this kind of scrutiny.
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@@phoenixprivate2977 No they didn't fuck it up, the homies at Obsidion got some of the original creators on their game, so if anything Bethesda cucked the lore.
@@keemstarsdad5001 It wouldn't be the first time Obsidian made a continuity error. They said Sunset Sasparilla was made in 1918 to compete with Nuka Cola, even though Nuka Cola hadn't been made until 2044.
Industry collaborations happen fairly often irl, especially in tech. The precursor to the PlayStation, for instance, was a joint project between Nintendo and Sony to make a disc-based add-on for the SNES. Nintendo infamously snubbed Sony and announced a partnership with Phillips instead. Microsoft, as a secondary example, used the relationship it had cultivated with Sega in the early 2000s to help feel out the industry before jumping into the hardware side of the business.
Nintendo made a similar move with the Switch, I think it basically replaced the NVIDIA Shield tablet 2, which was canceled for "business reasons". Original Shield tablet was pretty similar to the Switch, just running Android and missing the wii remotes. It didn't dock with the TV or whatever, but it was part of a line of devices built around streaming ability, and offered a service allowing users to run AAA PC games from the cloud for a monthly fee.
Could it not be possible that Robert House as a young man created the Mister Handy whilst working for General Atomics and thats what got him the clout to start up Robco 5 Years later?
I think it’s just because Bethesda sucks at keeping tabs on Fallout lore, like Jet being introduced in Fallout 2 as a post war drug, but being seen in vaults and being talked about in terminal entries from before the war
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RobCo was probably forced to be a front by the military. RobCo were friends with the military, and they threatened to end their relationship if RobCo didn’t help them.
She says we SUPRIVISORS have sophisticated circuitry. Not mr handy. They are likely modified or upgraded units. Possibly an early experiment or upgrade option of the popular Mr. Handy or Miss Nanny. Either would be good projects to start a company. This also would be why they would have been be chosen to militerize Mr Handy. Plus they suck at keeping lore straight. Or a late buyout.
I wouldn't say Bethesda sucks at keeping lore straight. They do a very good job. You try and keep that much feckin' lore straight, ordered and up to date across hundreds of employees. Mistakes are unavoidable at that point.
Really love your videos! Good job on this one it must have taken a lot of digging. I’d like to think Robco wasn’t founded during the creation of said robot but... Mr Handy may have been the collaboration of several companies including General Atomics. Due to the Military secrecy the only company that could produce for a civilian populous would be one already established. These companies once released from secrecy might have formed RobCo in order to compete with GAI. Many of the staff and blueprints might have stayed at RobCo because of its founding members working on militarised robots. Leading to the theory that the Mr Gutsy pre-dates the Mr Handy.
So just a random thought... might even have been mentioned by someone else already. What if... Robert House used to work for General Atomics International, possibly contributing to the Mr. Handy robot, prior to striking out on his own and creating RobCo? So, General Atomics International created the Mr. Handy, but Robert House could also, with only a little stretching of the truth (easily enough when ego and/or marketing is involved), claim the same. Then, it is a relatively short step into claiming that RobCo invented it, given that RobCo is, in essence, Robert House. But, if this were the case, why isn't it mentioned by either company? Easy enough to explain. Bad blood and competition. If this hypothesis were true, it could easily have been "common backroom knowledge", but never officially documented because of that rather nasty falling out. Just an idea.
your idea is not bad but I think General Atomics and RobCo worked together because Mr gusty is made by RobCo so they must have worked together in one way General Atomics made MR. handy and Robco saw an idea for making it for the military so they would have made both profits on the work and sales
@ 7:52 you see the mr handy specs, and his nuclair power source has an endurance of 2 years, how come that codsworth powersouce can go on beyond 200 years, can a mr handy refuel itself ? their is mr handy fuel in the house but not a 100 canisters of it.
Me at the beginning of the video: This is going to end up in a continuity error, isn't it? Me at the end: Yuuuuuuuuuuuup. Oh well, it was still a really interesting video :)
Curie says she's the top of the line of RobCo technology, while Codsworth is the pride of General Atomics. Pretty sure a joint venture between both companies led to the current line of Mr. Handy, and both companies claim the success.
I've seen this supposed conflict resolved a few different ways that still work in-lore. Personally, I always thought of it in terms of *who* worked on *what*: as we see when interacting with the washing machine in Fallout 4's prologue, General Atomics International made appliances, and they're also known for making heavy machinery and power supply systems -- basically, they're the in-universe equivalent of General Electrics; RobCo, meanwhile, is associated more with computer systems and software -- the Pip-Boy personal computer, the TermLink code in every computer terminal in the game, high-end computer mainframes, even the brain-computer interface that Robert House himself has been using to interact with the world. GAI had the means of mass-production and manufacturing, that much is a given -- and considering the mass-market appeal of both the Mr. Handy, and Mrs. Handy/Ms. Nanny models and the military demand for the Mr. Gutsy units, it'd take a tremendous effort to create enough units to meet demand; at the same time, though, these models required a very sophisticated CPU and core code, something that GAI's manufacturing experience couldn't help with -- nobody wants to entrust their child to the care of a lawnmower, and no soldier could be replaced by a toaster with a plasma cannon. GAI may have developed the first Mr. Handy models prior to the foundation of RobCo, but given Mr. House's genius, I could see it being possible that he worked on that project as a systems engineer, splitting off to found RobCo some time later. For this most recent line of Mr. Handy models, like the surprisingly intelligent Codsworth, I think one of two things happened: either GAI contracted RobCo to improve the brains of their iconic line of home-assistant androids, after hitting one too many dead ends trying to make lightning strike twice on their own; or RobCo, developing the improved system on their own, made an offer to GAI to implement it in the newest line of units, in exchange for some benefit. Personally, I think the former's more likely -- if RobCo wanted something from General Atomics, they've already demonstrated how willing they are to stage a hostile takeover, or at the very least resort to dirty tactics, to get it. Either way, however, GAI could claim credit for *making* the Handy line -- and RobCo could argue they *designed* it. (There's also the possibility that GAI stole the designs from Robert House, but I'd like to see some evidence that House worked for GAI before I start speculating about their in-house intellectual property standards.)
What if we're missing something that'd been covered up by one of the two companies? What if Robco or GA bought out the other like Robco did to many other companies as we already know!
First of all great work as always. I thank you for spending so much time and effort on these videos. They are very well done and I do look forward to all your content. That said my thoughts and opinions on said video and lore might bridge some of the gap, at least it does in my mind. It would seem easy enough to think that General Atomics created the Mr. Handy to start with. Mass producing consumer level Mr. Handys for all sorts of menial labor. Once RobCo started and created there own line of robots, with better AI than General Atomics, but far less advanced bodies than what General Atomics was making. The military got interested in using Robots in combat, so they used RobCo to modify something that was already widely available and being mass-produced by General Atomics but with better AI and military programming from RobCo. Since it does not seem like RobCo could mass produce their own protectrons on the same scale as General Atomics could with their Mr. Handy. Which in turn at some point made the military get an interest in a more advanced military robot/AI. Which would explain the Liberty Prime. A military robot that is more inline with a Protectron than a Mr. Handy, which if ever mass produced would probably use the factory capability of General Atomics for more mass production. Also I would think that General Atomics would want to keep their public image cleaner since they were making things for the public more so than the military. Which would also seem to break into why they were gun shy to really work on the robo brains. Something that would probably be a massive improvement to their current AI they use for their Mr. Handy line or what ever else they might have been working on at the time. Seeing as they way they were going about it was all kinds of shady. Thus the facility being under a RobCo shop, a company already known for working with the military at that point I would think. Thus if the public ever found out it would be easy enough for the PR nightmare to be shifted over to RobCo and any evidence that General Atomics had a hand in it could be wiped clean. As for the mix up with inconsistent history in game. That is easy enough to blur with the fact that two hundred years have past. Not much history wise really seems to have survived more than bits and pieces from all sorts of corners. There being no real clear historians that would have enough information from all sources to piece it all together without some blurring and inconsistencies. When it comes to real world and Bethesda, I doubt there is a part of the company really concerned with keeping lore and history consistent from game to game in the fallout franchise. So things happen and stuff gets jumbled when one team picks up where the other left off when making one game to the next and doing stories. Also if something from a previous game doesn’t jive with the story they want to tell in the game they are making then simply re-writing it in that game to fit the new story is an easy fix. Only the hardcore fans seem to care much about the history being 100% from game to game. Which is not a large enough group for Bethesda to care about and devote effort into making sure the lore works all the time, just as long as it works close enough to not break the core concept of a previous game. Hopefully that concept works if it is flawed I would love to know why. I started with Fallout 4 so my lore knowledge is lacking so any information is always appreciated as I would like to learn more.
I think that it originally came from general atomics, and that the current model of mr. handy uses hardware made by RobCo. After all, the terminals are compatible with the Mr. handys, and the terminals are made by RobCo.
my hc is that mr handys are produced like cars: you can get cars that have the same shell, but have different specifications, and are produced by different companies. additionally in certain locations robco mr handys sold better that general atomics mr handys and vice versa. there are also differences in the body design across the companies (robco hr handies use 2 arm eye stalks and move on a rail like system where as genral atomics use one arm, have an armour plate and the stalk is at a fixed position)
Licensing. GA produces the Mr Handy and sells the shell to RobCo who make the mr gutsy. Then you've got the Repconn version and all three have different voice.
Could it be that Robco and GA are the same company, but are 'seperate' to avoid some form of anti trust laws? Or maybe the government knew that a single company making all robots was best for national defense but to appease the public split the company while making sure they both worked very closely together?
It could be something like the Ford Taurus and the Mercury Sable. Two different car companies and yet there have been times that they had the exact same car with minor differences. So the General Atomic Mr. Handy could have came first and the RobCo. Mr. Handy could have been made years later and to similar style to General Atomic's but had minor differences to it. Well that's my idea.
Don't forget! At the beginning of the Vanilla game, once you emerge out of Vault 111, and head into Sanctuary, when you run into Codsworth at the Wanderers home, there is a dialogue option where Codsworth says something along the lines of "...the pride of General Atomics International!".
I think that you've done a good and thorough job of collecting all the evidence available and have interpreted it correctly. I agree with your conclusions.
What if Robert House was an General Atomics employee at the age of 17 and was the lead designer of Mr. Handy and the Repcon facility was honoring the fact House himself had hand in their creation...atleast that is my best attempt to make everything canon true
I thought maybe ROBCO made the schematics for Mr.Handy and Mr.Gutsy and General Atomics just bought the schematics from ROBCO, and General Atomics made Mr.Handy and Mr.Gutsy. That would make more sence.
I mean it's not unusual for one company to create products using components from other companies, especially electronics and machinery. It's also pretty common for computer hardware to have software made by other companies under license. Alternatively they could be ultimately different robots, but both referred to as "Mr. Handys" because of the similarity to the original design, kind of like how flavored fruit juice mix is almost always called "Kool-aid" regardless of the brand.
@Oxhorn while I agree that general atomics made Mr Handys do you think when we see Mr Handys at Robco industries that it could be because the companies are quite close and aren’t competitive like nuka Coca-Cola and Vim. Do you think it’s plausible that Robert house would occasionally hire general atomics robots believing them to be ideal security staff.
Theory: RobCo was trying to corner the robot market, and Mr. House had set in motion the process of a hostile takeover of General Atomics. He was so confident that the takeover would go through that RobCo started presenting the Mr. Handys as their own... then the bombs fell.
Why are mister handies so adorable ignoring the buzzsaw its adorable af? Is it because they look a bit chonky because they are spherical or is it that they have these adorable eyes?
The Wiki on Fandom or Gamepedia says that the first design was built by GA but the later design you see in Fallout 3 and all consecutive games after that were co-built by them and RobCo.
Idk here is the thing I see happening, Robco makes robots General electronics makes well electronics I'm guessing it was General electronics who was like hey you know what would be amazing? if we made a robot that could use all of our stuff and be like a butler type person, then the guy speaks up from the back yeah but how do we do robot? they all sat around a bit until one of them remembered robco is a thing, and they were like hey we make the guts you make the body for this thing? and robco was like yeah lets do that thing
The most obvious explanation to all of this in my opinion is that the Mr Handy was invented by General Atomics, but at some point RobCo brought the license to produce some Mr Handy & Mr Gutsy. In real life this often happens, and one company will pay another company to make some of their stuff and they’ll get the blueprints and things. Therefore, the robots are usually made by General Atomics, but a few models were produced by Mr Handy’s. I’m not exactly sure how to explain Fallout New Vegas’s REPCONN other than just a mistake by Obsidian, but it could also be that maybe RobCo was just a but overzealous with their claims, and pretended they invented it to make them seem more impressive. Also, it’s perfectly believable that RobCo would use Mr Handy’s in their factories, as they are more useful than Protectrons for some jobs.
you could just chop this down to continuity errors, instead of trying to explain it, afterall people should know by now bethesda really doesnt give a fuck about making continuity errors, ie. the dragon break in elder scrolls, and if you want to really explain it then you can chop it down to company licensing for production.
what if "mister handy" is just the name for the type of robot like a there are in the real world different companys that make smartphones, they look all simliar and can all do nearly the same but still different companys build them with even more brands. an other reason could be that Mister Handy was licensed to RobCo.
Willys in WW2 had to outsource to Ford produce it fast enough for the war. Same type of deal? Robco had to get General Atomics to make them in bigger amounts
