Mimic Pro smokes them all in a pipe! Its a shame that this is missing in such a comparism! Roland still produces very synthetic sounds with machinegunning in 2021.
As a 50X owner, I have to say I'm impressed with the EFNote sound. I think you made good choices for the best kits as well... the Progressive kit is one of my favs, although there are some new kit releases on Roland cloud that are pretty good and new VEX releases (haven't tried yet) that tend to be much better than Roland stock kits. Overall, I think the 50x is the first stock kits that Roland got right! I'm glad to see much better jazz kits all around. Thanks for the comparison and great acoustic kit choices..... I've played edrums for over a decade and still annoyed by most electronic/808/laser beam sounding kits.
The usual problem is once you do a quick roll especially with the toms involved, you immediately hear that dreadful machine gun sound. Roland is an “expert “ in making machine gunning “shine”. Great hardware, just sound terrible compare to any vst on the market.
Yeah I was hoping he played more fast rolls on them to see if I could hear that. There was only one part in the Roland demo where I thought I could hear it. Still though...It's pretty impressive how far they have come. The snare rolls on all of them sounded really good. And not all VST's sound that great. EZdrummer is a bit limited in my opinion and not quite up to the same level as Superior or BFD3. I think these are starting to be as good as an EZ drummer or some of the lower/mid level VST's. Once these companies fully commit to putting in GB's worth of samples instead of scaling the dynamics with a program, they'll be at the same level.
I suspect the Tom machine gunning can be improved a lot by choosing a better curve than the factory linear one. I use spline or log on the toms and it highlights small differences in velocity
I'm just so in love with the jazz sound of the Gewa. For rock, yes the Roland takes the cake. But I think if I was in the market for an edrum the jazz sound alone would get me to buy the Gewa.
Excellent video, excellent drummer! Ps. I agree with you, the TD-50kv2 is the overall best sounding. the EfNote looks cool also, and sounds great, and the GEWA's jazz kit is great! the plus for the Roland kit is the digital snare, hihat, and ride. The GEWA looks a little cheaper built in the cymbals, but that is my opinion. Can't find the price for thEfNote kits. They look very exciting. The GEWA is more expensive than the Roland. Compared to the VAD706, looks wise, all of them fail :-)
Interesting. They have really come along way. That new Yamaha kit sounds pretty great too. I was hoping you'd play more fast single stroke rolls on the snare and toms though to hear if they machine gun. The snares sounded really good at the lower volumes but the toms I couldn't tell if they still have that problem. I think once the major companies fully commit to putting in Gigabytes of samples (like the best VST's) instead trying to scale the sound with a program, then they'll finally be at the same level. I know not all edrummers are into having the most realistic sound, but I am. It's why I'll stick with BFD3 triggering Platinum Samples (in my opinion still the greatest VST libraries ever made; up to 250 velocity layers for a single drum articulation) until they get it right. They are getting close.
I my opinion the maschine gun effect only comes down to the playing abilities of the drummer and the settings for the trigger parameters. With these drummodules the player can either play smooth rolls or not. I own a td50x. Adujst the trigger settings to your playing style and tweak the sounds and there will be no maschine gun effect at all. And of course learn to controll your dynamics and your accents and alls that jazz 😂
As a studio and tour guy for established artists, you have to arrive with a Roland TD-50X. I purchased a Gewa few months ago but the dealer didn’t have it in inventory, so I bought a couple of Nord 3p. Talk about realistic sounds, no samples but real time instruments. Obviously, a module must accompany a 3p, but the kicks and snares are insanely good and in your face real. A Gewa is definitely in my future cart.
I'm in the market now, first time ever im going to go all in with a purchase holding nothing back. I love the EFNOTE sounds and look, but the digital snare/ride of roland makes me think I do that, tinker with the sounds, and if all else fails just use a VST? But then .... I see and hear the HH on the EFNOTE, and I'm not sure again
I have an Efnote 3 which I really enjoy. I think Roland is better in terms of reducing machine-gunning, but for raw drum sound, I give the nod to Efnote.
I have the EF Note but it lacks a good room sound to make you feel you are in a space instead of just adding reverb on top of the sound. Gewa sounds best to me.
Maybe a how to Tweak EDrums to create a custom kit tailored to “Your” sound, not just what samples to use but a deeper how to adjust all the parameters . Maybe that’s too much of a wormhole to cover in a 10 min clip?
I don't get why nothing compares to Superior Drummer 3. Why is there no module on the market that has natural bleed option (snare buzz when hitting the floor tom or kick) and humanized/randomized (anti machine gun) sounds.
Not quite answering the question, but for me it was fascinating to watch the dBA meter at the back - the EFNote was consistently +10 dBA more than the Roland / Gewa - an important consideration for an apartment drummer; even though I can't afford any of the kits on test!
I was playing acoustic drums only, for years. I tried the Roland 503 and I was very impressed. Finally, I decided to go with the EFNote 7 due to the sound, look & feel. Check out my RU-vid channel for some EFNote 7 videos
roland has the worse sound by a huge margin. efnote eat them alive and gewa sound better too. roland sound artificial and fake. even the cheaper yamahas sound better.
I'm apparently in the minority of the comments because I thought the Roland still sounds overall the best out of all 3. I mean they all sound pretty great but Roland just had a tad more dynamic range and less of the machine gun sound that most E drums have. IMOP Roland is still the leader in class on E drums but a lot of companies are getting close. EFnote was really close & the GEWA wasn't even on the same playing field as the Roland and EFnote.
Wow Simon, talk about a difficult choice. For me its between Gewa and Roland, in looks the Gewa edges it but there is just something about the Roland kits that takes it for sound. I know its not really a fair comparison, but these sounds are what each manufacturer said were its best, so Roland, but only just.
@@ThomannsDrumBash I really like the idea of asking brands about which kit sound in their opinion is the best. From Roland I've already got big expectations, and after watching some of the EFnote drum kits, I think they are really into it and put a lot of effort too. The surprise comes from Gewa, but I did some research regarding their drums products, the "blind" spots on cymbals are the the biggest issue, but somehow the sound it's good (I blame you for this). It's good to have some nice competition in this area of music. Maybe Yamaha deserves a place in this competition too.
EFNOTE is a completely different level. ...It is being developed in China by Japanese engineers, but apparently it is not being imported to Japan. What an irony?
Wich Edrum would you buy if you had budget of 1700 ish? I was looking into gewa3 studio, but I just loved that efnote 5x sound… I mean I know it’s above my budget unfortunately 😅 but still
I cannot answer this question because it depends heavily on my EQ settings. I am using FX Sound to improve the extremely poor onboard sound chip of my laptop. Can you identifiy what sound/brand has the most real human like feel ? I mean a real drumset never plays the same sound on the same pad or cymbal. It depends of the way he strikes them, and they are rarely hit in a same way. Which e-drum does simulate best this real feel ?
All EFnote presets were realistic, and organic. Looks, and sounds: EFnote 5XE at 4100 Euros (not on this video) is a clear choice over the 6800 Euro Roland. I had my 1st (and last) Roland 27 years ago (triangle pads), and they still can't get the realistic acoustic drums sounds. I think the EFnote sounds will be even more realistic with the LogicPro X midi random velocity, after the live midi recording, though you -may?- need another sound pack software such as EZ Drummer etc. EF pricing is better for an acoustic looking drum kit, and you can add a real snare/cymbals to get the full acoustic looks, and -almost- real sounds.
The EF note cymbals sound the best but the to Tom's are machine gun. The last Tom if the TD50 is also machine gun, which explains why they don't tend to go above fourteen inches
I know I'm going to piss off a lot of Roland haters, but personally, I think Roland and Efnote are tied. I have a Roland TD-07 drumkit and I love most of the sounds but the TD-50 is superior in all ways possible (of course, you can't compare a $400 dollar module to a $2500 one). So I like the Roland stylized sounds. The sounds have a punchy sound and the cymbals are just beautiful. My favourite kit out of the Roland ones shown in this vid is the Acoustic one, the Prog is very close. Efnote is the more natural sounding. I love the Speedstar (shown in this vid) and the First Note kits. I think the minimalist module design is awesome, plus that Bluetooth sells it for me. I'm slowly, but surely, becoming a big fan of these drum kits, especially the Efnote 3 and 3X for their futuristic stands and compact design. Gewa's American Vintage kit sounds pretty nice, but it has something I don't like that much and I cannot put my finger on what it is. Out of all these kits, my favourite is Speedstar from Efnote. I feel like I can play some, well, speed metal! xD In fact, I am looking at getting the Efnote 3, so I'm not a mindless Roland fanboy (I can't believe that, nowadays, liking something means you're a dumb fanboy).
Would love to see drumtec pro with their real feel heads and upgraded Roland t-50 comparison video against Efnote 7. Trying to make a purchase decision lol.
Funny that the Roland TD50 was bashed for having the poorest sounds when it came out and yeah, it wasn't great. The X update was a complete game changer for the module and the Progressive kit is one of my favorite go to kits. I have a MIMIC Pro and it's collecting dust. Yes, it sounds great but it's finicky. I've gigged for years with electronics, Roland just works every time.
This is really hard...I liked the kit noises for some roland and EF better than G. I only liked the jazz kit sounds on the G...I think EF has a nice value prop...
And now that I watched you opinion, you picked out my favorite sounds. The progressive kit reminds me of Jon Bonham. I'd have to play them, but I really am intrigued by the EF.
Hey ,.... Yes thats the Problem... We as a Church have to Search for one E-Drum Kit. I have read some over the Efnote 5x / Gewa G5 and Roland VAD 503. But i dont know, what is the right Kit for Worship-Music .... !?!
People dont waste your time for a good drum Sound like i did ! I never wanted a Computer, so i bought them all Td50 - x,Mimic, Pearl ,Alesis. Here is the absolut recepie for a great around Get a Roland TD 27 or above get a decent laptop and trigger suoeriour drummer3 Thats the key ! Now you can buy any shellaset and cymbalset you want ! Best Bassdrum ATV Best Pads Roland Best cymbals Roland Atv
@@ThomannsDrumBash I haven't inspected the drums but I do have atv 18" ride and atv 10" splash. Both are excellent and on par with roland non- digital cymbals. With that in mind, I would say the drums are probably top shelf as well.
Nette Verkaufsschow... Man hat es geschickt vermieden, dass bei allen drei "Falgships" die Toms immer noch nach Machingun klingen, wenn man sie entsprechend schnell spielt. Das scheint elektronisch immer noch sehr rechenintensiv zu sein. Statt unnötige Features zu implementieren sollten die Hersteller mal daran arbeiten, bei der Snare haben sie es auch auch irgendwie hin bekommen...