@@IdiotSerena until recently , he wasn't ...not a lot ...maybe all that criticism , finally got taken seriously , and he finally , got an instructor and wood shedded his ass off .. he HAS seemed to improved DRASTICALLY on this last 12 months ...he even went on howard stern and demo-ed the famous "one " double bass role and actually did it WELL!! if anyone saw some of their older tour vids where , you had to grit your teeth through one (or just skip it ) then you understand how awesome that was.. no ...lars has definitely upped his game .. and i'm finally happy for him .
Can you not hear how offbeat he is? He was more consistent when he was younger and, I get it, he's getting old, but holy f--- some of these recent shows have been... f---ing awful...
Let's be honest, we all want a guy like Lars in out band... All jokes and memes aside, Lars' contributions to heavy metal as we know it cannot be ignored.
@@noperception5073 He used to have a shitty attitude, and plenty of it. However - and I concede the point - he has matured greatly during the early to mid 2000's (Napster debacle + Jason's departure + James' stint on rehab) and became much more laid back. Nowadays, he's super cool and approachable. And yes, Axl is still kind of a moody manchild.
@@rafaellago172 cocaine probably had a large part to do with it. Never noticed the toothpick until someone in the comments pointed it out. Your points are all spot on. I've actually notice James get a little LESS tolerant of BS, but with James that's kinda a good thing, he was starting to become a bit of a pushover in recent years.
Lars is the Draymond Green of drumming. Not perfect but he gets the job done I’ve been lucky enough to see Metallica multiple times over the last few years and Lars was solid
Lars is from the 80’s. he was an absolute beast in the 80’s. he started fading in the 90’s. Aging doesn’t go well with the style of drumming he brought to the world in the early 80’s. This song was written in 1983. And ur talking about how the 60 year old man is playing it in 2023? Ur just idiots. Lars packed up shop signed off on his legacy, and moved to collecting checks only in 1997.
He WAS one of a kind. Nothing inventive about the crap he has put out in the past 20 years. Unless you count having the shittiest snare drum sound ever.
This issue has never been IF Lars can do something, its been that he doesn't bother...Hetfield was recent talking about how they never used to rehearse because Lars wouldn't show up. Apparently something changed for this tour and he's taking it more seriously which is really cool!
I am not sure how accurate that is. There's tons of footage of them playing and rehearsing before shows from 20 years ago. I even read somewhere that when Mastodon toured with Metallica a few years before this tour, Bill Kelliher said that he has never seen a band that is as dedicated to practicing before a show as Metallica. He said that he felt bad about his work ethic when he saw them playing 2-3 hours straight before hitting the stage, constantly warming up and preparing. It's just that Metallica have lived pretty far away from each other in the last years. James and Robert pretty much need to take a flight just to get to HQ (their headquarters) and rehearse. If anything, Lars (and Kirk), who lives the closest to their studio is probably the last thing that stops them from practicing regularly. They probably get to play together mostly on the road / right before going out on the road or when working on an album.
Lars has simply become a lazy pig. I don't understand it, the head of one of the biggest bands in music history wrote some of the best songs in the world with James. Earns hundreds of millions. Why on earth doesn't he just sit down for a few months with a metronome and practice his own music??? Delivering such pathetic performances while fans pay hundreds of dollars per ticket is an outrage
Lars did his time and made his contributions when necessary. He moved the genre and drumming forward way more than most drummers in his prime. Whatever he can or cannot do today matters little when stacked against where he's been and what he's done. Go Lars.
Theyre all stealing a living if you ask me. Sounds like a bunch of 12 year olds just making noise in the garage, yet 10,000's of people buy tickets to this shit because of their name alone. Literally hundreds of artists that deserve attention over Metallica but most people are clueless monkeys, that make copium comments like yours 🤣
I don’t how James and Kirk don’t mess up when Lars can’t even keep time. They must be used to it I guess,still love his drums on the studio stuff though
I kinda think that James actually keeps time Because whenever he and Lars interact, Lars is almost on his toes, because they are long term buddies just playing what they love. They have a click in their ears anyway, that's just how i look at it
@@yobrethrenThey definitely do not play to a click. If you play two performances of the same song at the same time they will go heavily out of sync after a while. Lars just has a click before songs so the starting tempos are consistent
Have you heard the many times Kirk has fucked up with leg of the tour? The Nothing Else matters intro in NY? The Fade to Black intro in Montreal AND LA? James forgetting a whole section of song in Dallas? They don't need Lars to make fuck ups.
So Happy for you and your GM Thou i wish your GM wouldve tesch you More self esteem so you wouldnt need to out others down and compareand Be actually jealous
duh coz hes old. hes not a robot. give a man a break. hes done his fair share of drumming skills in his youth. lets see if u can still do what hes been doing when ur 60. stupid
@@metalpuppet5798 Not obviously. Listen to what He played on the records back then, and what He plays now, He plays simlpified Versions of his own parts of the songs. And skips DB parts here and there. No disrespect to Lars, Hes got his right to do so.
he's skipping a decent chunk of double bass here but i'd say he is a lot better than how he was in much of death magnetic and hardwired tours as he is more subdued and has better timing
You didnt properly listen back in the Hardwired and Death Magnetic tour then. He was just as good back then. He and the entire band have been super solid for years
That's because he gets lazy, he admitted that he doesn't practice in an interview but in recent times I saw a better drumming in his last concerts keeping time and playing old parts almost the same in a lot of songs
@@stellarcubicbeam7760 That's not true, he compose great drums tracks and fills he deserves recognition, he inspire a lot of new drummer even Mike portnoy and other great drums holds respect for him
@@josealejandrocaraveo I can't hold respect for Lars, when people like Nicholas Barker and Babymetal's first, second and newest *best drummer*, destroy Lars.
For all that can be said about his drumming today, back in the day before the haircuts and pub rock albums, Lars was a huge influence with his style and when he used to play his parts like on the albums. Metal drumming has evolved so much that it left him behind.
But, single bass drum is 155 BPM and double is 148 BPM a whopping difference. I saw them at Download. Lars fell apart during "One". Sounding like the kit was falling down a flight of stairs.
I have followed this band since MoP's. They were one of the reasons I went to download. Lars has taken his foot of the pump for decades, he clearly doesn't practice like the others. But he is an asset in songwriting and arrangement. I wish he would go back to the practice and get back into playing well. @@jord9261
Talking about getting older... Some of the most impressive double bass playing I heard recently was by Simon Phillips on a Derek Sherinian track called 'The Phoenix'. Fast db playing nearly 5 minutes straight - the Guy is 66 years old, people! And he just recently pulled it off on a live album...
@maximpopov199 he uses his whole leg when doing double kick which is exhausting I use to play like that .once I switched to using my ankles it became a breeze
@@mikecurran5349 Yeah, full leg motion type of playing takes too much energy. Ecxactly, ankle motion gives you power & stamina to play much longer period of time. Thats for sure.
i mean.. Simon Phillips is a well-established, properly GOAT'd drum GOD for several decades now. along the lines of Dave Weckl, Terry Bozzio, Vinnie Colaiuta, etc. Comparing him at age 66 to Lars at 18 is not even in the same _realm_ due to the immense chasm of skill disparities between them
Hits the snare hard like a caveman whispers like a ballerina on the double bass 🙄 that was the weakest db I've ever seen his beaters don't even go that far back at all so no power on the hits he should just start triggering them. Coming from a lars fanboy
I really like his playing. He is not clean... he is no Danny Carey, But he seems to enjoy it. Not everyone has to be a Virtuoso. I likr his style, as sloppy as it can be.
Let me ask you something. If Metallica were just starting out today, do you think their current music/releases would sell? Also, do you think if Metallica were starting out and auditioning drummers... they would hire Lars? IMO, the answer is "Hell no" to both of those.
@@fleatactical7390that’s true, but no band that sounds like Meticallica would be popular today so that’s a pointless argument. The only people who still like Meticallica are older than Lars, and they aren’t musically advanced enough to appreciate a drummer that can play double bass a whole song anyways. Meticallica is a mainstream band and you never hear double bass on the radio so it’s perfectly fine for them.
I do not think anyone has said that he doesn't do double bass. Even during the rock era during their live shows he did double bass on their old songs, however he did it poorly and still do. Now don't get me wrong, I have seen live shows of them where he managed to pull off "One" but there is plenty of shows where he does not. And people bring up his age, his age has nothing to do with it. Nicko McBrain is 71, is still killing it on the drums and he doesn't even have to simplify his playing like Lars does. What matters is practice. Hellhammer is 54, a few years younger then Lars and yet he practice drums atleast 2 hours every day. Not only does he have better stamina, his double bass is perfect and his playing is still tight as hell. Lars doesn't practice which he has been open with so it is no surprise he is very sloppy behing the kit.
Man, he wouldn’t pass an audition for a school garage band. If we were to isolate his double kicks, they’d be embarrassingly sloppy … the meter would be all over the joint. Edit : For Lars to be this shit after drumming every day for decades is quite an achievement.
Nice to see he is becoming good again. He is a drum legend. He built a legacy, good to see him being more solid. Well, we all get that being old makes drumming harder, he is not playing blues or bossa nova.
He's no legend. He's always been a guy that just plays for a paycheck. He practiced more when Cliff or Dave wrote and demanded stuff with chops. Out of courtesy many other metal drummers keep their mouths shut, but a "drum legend?" Silly statement. Lars doesn't play for the art, growth or passion. The same reason he's in the corporate metal band. To make money. He's no different than Gene Simmons or Paul Stanley. Check your praise of the guy. He's a business manager moonlighting as a drummer. Always has been.
@@zoso1980but Paul Stanley was constantly training vocals up to 10x, in 83-89 there was generally his peak vocal form, it was wonderful and technical. Gene gets into the rhythm perfectly, not to mention the inventive bass parts in the 70s. So they are musicians, and they have always done their musical work efficiently, unlike Lars. Yes, and they are boots of 20 cm and 5 kg on each leg. Dedication, however
Dude, I have been listening to this band more of my life than not. And that man has been practicing lately. Good on him for real Lars. Used to be super sloppy and lately. He has gotten up to speed on his game.
This is the most honest comment about Lars you will ever read!! He sucks now!! BAD!! But in the 80's he was a pioneer and forever an lcon because of it!!
I kinda am over the mildering bass thing in the first albums. Now he’s Lars and he’s drumming most of the time, and he’s pretty good. :) and he still does his pretty intense drummimg throughout all these years. I hope he can do this with this passion for a long time to come.
Of course à king of drums as lars always plays double bass and he has created some wonderful part of track with his famous double bass Eternal support from a French fan of Metallica 👍💪🤘🇫🇷
Remember that part of truly getting good at your craft is learning economy of effort. It's not that you can't double-bass or downstroke every note on guitar, it's that you don't have to. You proven it many times over already and honestly, it sometimes sounds awesome to loosen up a bit and just do the fastest or hardest parts for emphasis. GO!!
Just looking at his posture and the way he is sitting, legs tucked back under his seat . You couldn't make it any more strenuous on an aging body to play double bass. He's still a legend, just wish he kept improving through his career instead of just leveling off.
Oof, when he does the three-count on the hi-hat at 0:18. He goes out of time with this own counting, then starts the beat too soon. Love Lars but that is painful.
I mean isnt Lars 59 years old? At that age I would be happy to play even 50% of what he is doing right now. It's true that he wasnt never SUPER good with doublebass, but what the hell the man gets the job done (somehow) and that seems to keep the fans happy. What else is there to say? :D
Don't confuse stamina with technique. Yes, at 59, being able to pull off a metal concert is impressive but the argument here is whether he can double kick or not. Age is not important in that.
Anyone who pays to see Metallica live over the years feels the double kick in their chest each and every time he does it. The ones who sit home on RU-vid watching poorly shot cell phone videos where you can't here shit are the ones doing the majority of complaining. They know not what they speak of. Then some just hate Lars cause it was trendy.
Well without Lars there would be no Metallica... Despite all the shit he gets online it's unbelievable the negativity he gets, people are still listening... I'm not a drummer but the drumming on the Justice album to me is amazing. Lars riffs with the Guitar on Drums, this is the unique dynamic between James and Lars, Lars also arranges the music this is important too.. Anyway even if people think he's a bad drummer, hes a very wealthy bad drummer, no matter what people think, so he must be doing something right...
Lars has been totally on fire both during last year’s festival tour and during this years M72 tour. Saw them playing two festivals in Europe last year and twice in Amsterdam this year and sounded great! Tight, energetic, good tempo’s. Performing like this for over 2 hours straight while pushing 60. My deepest respect. Actually got the pleasure of meeting Lars last week in SanFran and he was totally cool and down to earth, took the time for a short chat and some photo’s even while he was having a night out. Thanks Lars for all the great music and shows you bring to us!!
That narrative is pathetic. If Lars is that sloppy, the band would fall apart live on multiple occasions- and lose all of their fans. Because who would want to listen a band that bad live. 40 years it didn't happen. And Metallica is considered the biggest metal bend of all time. Very hard, near impossible, to do it if the drummer is that bad, I'd say.
@@aleksandarradovanovic8496 yeah I never understood why Lars has this reputation. I think everyone just wants to feel better than someone especially if that someone is Metallica. The whole 'Lars is bad ' Mandela effect mainly seems like an excuse for less practiced musicians to justify their inadequacy
In most bands the drummer is usually always the best one in the band. Slipknot, Slayer, and a bunch of other bands are a testament to this. All of a sudden when the drummer isn't one of the best, you get Lars. Now he's a little bit worse than not just being the best, but his stage presence makes up for that 1000 fold, he's pretty agile on stage for being 60.
Man… I feel bad. This is pretty terrible. Had a buddy go and watch him when he was in Dallas and Houston. He told me he was pretty awful but I didn’t want to believe it. This guy is such a great writer and has contributed so much to the metal scene that I feel like he gets a pass. That being said, this isn’t even that fast and you can tell he is really having to muscle through it. Even our heroes get old.
Age doesn't have anything with bad drumming. It's only bad habits that turn drumming bad. Drums isn't about struggle to play with muscles,its all about techniques.
@@Drummer81able - I agree to an extent. I mean, at a certain age, we all eventually slow down. But his technique is pretty poor and that definitely affects his speed and efficiency.
@@ned1621 yeah, look at slayer. we missed them but we couldnt do anything but to listen to their records. same thing will happen to them, so just love their music. coz when theyre gone, theyre gone.
There are a lot of very good and very fast drummers, but very few, like Lars, have that signature drum style that people can recognize even with close eyes. He is literally one of those who we might call a drum innovator.
i can see why he struggles. its all in his technique. He is sitting too low along with the fact that his feet are too far up the pedal to the point where his toes are aligned with the beater. This is what causes his bad technique. He is using his thighs more than his ankles which is why he gets tired out so quickly and struggles with tempo and clean double bass while keeping his energy. He needs to sit up higher, and have his toes about half way down the pedal to utilize his ankles more and get more power from the beater swing. took me a long time to figure this out playing double bass. surprised he hasnt after 40 years
good point, I still struggle today to find the best way for long and fast double bass playing, I started in 1987 with a single kick and playing heel down and for years i played heel down double bass too, and I'm a big guy almost 2 meters tall, when my seat is too high i would need 28" bass drums to not look like a monkey behind the kit, haha. And playing metal needs constant practize something I have not done in many years. For the music I play I don't need superfast double bass that made me lazy too
metal drummer here. Yep, I agree. Poor technique. I can put down 16ths@160bpm indefinitely because I'm letting my Trick pedal and momentum do some of the work for me.
@@Centerpieceofmind It's hilarious how many people bash Lars just to bash Lars. There are literally bazillions of videos of him on RU-vid from behind where you can clearly see his feet moving up and down on normal pedals hitting every single note thats played. Must suck to be that jealous of someone that you feel like you have to bash them. There are a million bass players that are better than me, but I don't go on Geddy Lee's page telling him how crappy he is just to make myself feel better.
