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In this video i will be discussing the balancing of SF6 and talking about why some characters are just designed to be strong.
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@MCMuraFGC
@MCMuraFGC 20 дней назад
References ====================== Thumbnail picture sources by x.com/sf_screenshot Emiru's gameplay clip : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-68RvKa_LozE.html The SF6 monthly character popularity chart by x.com/AlietteFaye/status/1800430998922129605 Kimberly gameplay clip by FightClub TV ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Fc6KmZe1no0.html
@kccts44
@kccts44 20 дней назад
Mura saying "you are my habibi" is all i needed to hear today
@Foxpips
@Foxpips 20 дней назад
"Get him out of here" - MCMura Manon presenting those apples was hilarious
@zachariahbest6626
@zachariahbest6626 20 дней назад
Ryu is why i got sfv and 6 and bison is why i stayed
@iamlyth
@iamlyth 20 дней назад
Manon got you 2 apples because she thinks you have to be a heavy smoker because of how stressful it is to play her
@MCMuraFGC
@MCMuraFGC 20 дней назад
She is just misunderstood
@Xengard
@Xengard 19 дней назад
that kimberly clip was nutty
@Supaslasher
@Supaslasher 20 дней назад
Nice vid and really nice intro skit!
@cosmic5665
@cosmic5665 20 дней назад
Can anyone else relate to this? I dont get why characters with defining weaknesses can't be good but characters that are good at basically everything and have no weaknesses is good game design like how tf does that make sense, why should anyone with no weaknesses excel at that much?
@antonsimmons8519
@antonsimmons8519 20 дней назад
Bison should always be top tier. Mister Bipson is the boss.
@MCMuraFGC
@MCMuraFGC 20 дней назад
Can you guess what dish will get you top 1 placement by the balance committee ?
@piranimex4595
@piranimex4595 20 дней назад
Shawarma?
@MCMuraFGC
@MCMuraFGC 20 дней назад
@@piranimex4595 That's pretty high on the list
@Foxpips
@Foxpips 20 дней назад
Kebab and kofta?
@nochiel
@nochiel 20 дней назад
Ras malai? 🤤
@iamlyth
@iamlyth 20 дней назад
Mlokheyeh
@commonsense9076
@commonsense9076 20 дней назад
Manon definitely needed to bring a better gift 😂😂
@iamfiefo
@iamfiefo 20 дней назад
Appreciate the skits. Shows you're leveling up.
@Limit02
@Limit02 20 дней назад
I psersonally HATE the idea thay certain archetypes arent "allowed" to be good, at that point why not just make every character in the game a rushdown shoto?
@MCMuraFGC
@MCMuraFGC 20 дней назад
100% agree with ya on that
@cosmic5665
@cosmic5665 20 дней назад
Its like people want the game to be as boring as possible, this "health of the meta" crap is fake
@computervision557
@computervision557 20 дней назад
Capcom really trying to do that. Ryu rush down reward become better in S2 Luke defensive tools got nerf seriously, but the buff of 5HP increase his reward of raw drive rush Both of the honest shoto characters become more suitable for rush down(Capcom : rush more, less neutral) The end results are almost every characters, their game plan should focus on rush down
@cosmic5665
@cosmic5665 19 дней назад
​@@computervision557no way you just called luke honest💀
@computervision557
@computervision557 19 дней назад
@@cosmic5665 Honest mean you have to play neutral, no easy way to earn plus frame or oki like rush down/gimmick characters. Honest do not mean weak or mediaocre, honest character could be strong too His damage and buttons were so great because an honest character need to have great tools to compete with strong rush down characters in S1
@Gilbot9000
@Gilbot9000 20 дней назад
The sketch at the beginning was fucking hilarious. Mura you almost made me spit my coffee!
@robertescamia1720
@robertescamia1720 20 дней назад
I hate how Eventscrubs push the grappler agenda
@cosmic5665
@cosmic5665 19 дней назад
"you don't want good zangief🤓👆" -eventscrubs
@Lcg_fgc
@Lcg_fgc 19 дней назад
Loving the skits. Looking forward to the MC Mura green screen. Really fun stuff.
@PixelFactory
@PixelFactory 20 дней назад
Omg Al-baik! Top 2 def for al baik! Best chicken ever!
@MCMuraFGC
@MCMuraFGC 20 дней назад
Its truly top tier, hope they go all international and everyone get to know how good it is
@xavefgc
@xavefgc 20 дней назад
Very slick double P to highlight how Bison jst absorbed all the damage JP lost in season 2 👌🏾
@phaze12490
@phaze12490 20 дней назад
Pay 2 win characters getting all the love
@z1u512
@z1u512 20 дней назад
These recent videos are getting better and better
@coryharris1939
@coryharris1939 19 дней назад
Fun video, damn that’s rough though, Manon can only afford two apples.
@jayro792
@jayro792 20 дней назад
That Intro was funny AF!!!! 🤣🤣
@jayro792
@jayro792 20 дней назад
I’m still wondering why you put cammy as yay on your thumbnail and never really spoke about her. Do you think she is like top 3 now since the patch?
@MCMuraFGC
@MCMuraFGC 20 дней назад
I am actually doing the multiple thumbnails for a video thing and she is on one of them. Its the idea that more often than not rushdown can be top tier and everything is fine but god forbid that a grappler is good lol
@yeahmonyman180
@yeahmonyman180 20 дней назад
Great video mura
@yoshitsune5691
@yoshitsune5691 20 дней назад
I wish they never brought back M bison, I hated him in 5, and I hate him in 6. Call me a scrub, skill issue ect. I’m just soo salty about losing a shit tone of mr because of Bison.
@kaemonbonet4931
@kaemonbonet4931 20 дней назад
What happened with the shoto's is a funny thing. Luke had to be good because he's supposed to be a new main character, plus he was so good in the last season of sfv if he was bad all of a sudden it would be weird. Ken has to be good because he's representing the competitive old timers, its basically in his contract that hes competitively viable. he also has been more and more unique as the years go on and the main story of the game centers him. Ryu is surprisingly popular and was fought for by the fans for the last 7 years. Akuma is definitionally powerful. If any of these characters were weak it would have disappointed 50% of the audience.
@fatalradius
@fatalradius 20 дней назад
I think Punk just released his tier list. It's pretty decent, I don't agree with a few character placements but still worth checking out.
@Lowkeydrae
@Lowkeydrae 19 дней назад
Manon: not yellow. Golden apples, gold like my medals Mura lol. Hilarious vid
@junkmail6274
@junkmail6274 20 дней назад
MCMura is the f'n man, lately really putting in effort to be funny, charismatic, informative etc....this channel needs to be bigger....
@NelsonBlakeII
@NelsonBlakeII 20 дней назад
‘What is this?” 😂😂😂😂😂
@Bosnerdly
@Bosnerdly 20 дней назад
I'm a Cammy fan 1st, and a Street Fighter fan 2nd. Anyhow, great video as always, and I agree with your assessment 100%!
@blastarrow6562
@blastarrow6562 20 дней назад
I loled! Great vid!
@hcbabyssian8936
@hcbabyssian8936 20 дней назад
Chun-Li should always be top tier. That's how you show respect to one of Capcom's legacies. She her merchandise sells even to non-Chun players. She's practically the blueprint for female fighting game characters as she stood out among men at a time when women weren't as prominent in major roles as they are now. What Capcom has been doing to her since SF4 is just unacceptable.
@ellguy1965
@ellguy1965 7 дней назад
I totally agree She is the coolest character and ur right u see her merch everywhere from non sf players too She is so trash right now. Why would they not want her to be good in sf6 she looks so great
@KARS215
@KARS215 20 дней назад
If the character has low forward Drive Rush Cancel, they should automatically be considered good.
@SegaAidan
@SegaAidan 20 дней назад
M.Bison needs an emergency patch nerf. Him being able to go through rashid and ryu's projectile supers is just dumb.
@kwasit1055
@kwasit1055 20 дней назад
Great vid mura. You are the goat, just like my boy Ken.
@phaze12490
@phaze12490 20 дней назад
I main lily if she keep her wind stock condor any get any kind of buffs its over shes always super easy to win with the changes she got were quality of life changes she actually got nerfed more than buffed which is crazy
@DShawnPaytonOffiicial
@DShawnPaytonOffiicial 20 дней назад
So, what did Luke bring the committee since he's still top tier? Love the video, you have been killing it lately!
@computervision557
@computervision557 20 дней назад
Luke is a "top tier" character almost every pros drop Ken, "not a top tier character" but pros still using him, especially Tokido and AngryBird Pros will tell you who is the real top tier, they fight for money
@DShawnPaytonOffiicial
@DShawnPaytonOffiicial 20 дней назад
@@computervision557 so are you trying to say that Luke is not top tier because some pros dropped him? The choices of people who play in tournaments should not be the deciding factor, just because they play for money. Luke will always be top tier, I guarantee it, because unless they start taking moves away from him, his toolkit is too good. He's fast, good poke buttons, fast fireball, drive rush is crazy, corner carry, etc. A pro Luke player can pick up another character and still have Luke on the side to cover all match ups. Also, Ken is a top tier, no need for ironic quotations, no debate, unless you are a Kenspiracy theorist on the ministry of propaganda. Ken is top tier for the same reasons as Luke, plus fireball DR.
@computervision557
@computervision557 20 дней назад
@@DShawnPaytonOffiicial I don't agree with you, if Luke really still top tier, there is no way that so many pros drop him When money matters, people are honest, they need money for their life Menard, Bonchan, Kawano, Kevin, NL etc. CW still using Luke, but he may drop Luke after he become more familiar with Akuma. S2 Luke just like SF5 Ryu, they have the same issues, well rounded and have great combo, but too honest. S1 Luke is honest too, but his buttons, especially 2MP and 2HP are so great, this give him privilege when he try to defense, so he could start his pressure with drive rush cancel->if fail->walk back and defense->repeat. S2 Luke is mediocre, action of pros show us the truth
@computervision557
@computervision557 20 дней назад
@@DShawnPaytonOffiicial in S1 Luke is good enough to play like a SF5 character(focus more on defense and neutral), in S2 he has to play like a rush down character like other SF6 character, but he is never good at that, too honest and easy to predict if you play him like a rush down character, his fireball is fast but he is never good at fireball game, RIP for Luke. His best neutral tool, 2MP got nerf very hard, now his 2MP is neither bad nor good compare with other shoto, an OK button. His 5HP got buff, but 5HP is more like a lottery button, because you cannot hit confirm with it. Whiff punish with 5HP is powerful but the better your rival is, the less possible you are able to whiff punish, great players almost never whiff. They main reason they buff Luke 5HP because they want Luke players play him like a rush down character(this increase reward of raw drive rush), but the problem is this direction suck. Luke players in S1 did not play him like a rush down character not because the reward of his drive rush bad, it is because this character is too honest, his simplistic determine he is not a character suit for rush down play style
@DShawnPaytonOffiicial
@DShawnPaytonOffiicial 20 дней назад
@@computervision557 Alright, so Luke is mediocre to you. That's fine. I am not here to try to change your mind. Now, I don't believe that, and the actions of pro players don't determine my thoughts on it. Think of it like this: if some pro find some tech with Luke that previously went unused, and starts to win with him, then the community will flock to him again and say he's broken. The whims of the FGC are fickle. I'm a Zangief main, so I have no care in the matter of Luke's tier placement. I just know that against the whole cast, Luke has high a chance to win. To me, that means he's still top tier. Maybe not the best in the game, but still dangerous in the right hands. Let any former Luke mains who switched to Akuma start to feel that 9000 health too much and I bet they will pick Luke back up again.
@jettmanas
@jettmanas 20 дней назад
Funny intro. Just think of Capcom watching it. 😄 Nice use of the charts, including the change. Interesting how popular Manon was compared to Guile. Solid point on DLC characters & their making money. And who's entertaining to watch in tourneys, etc. (true on Kim from that clip). JP being a bit lower is good, imo. Avoiding excessive zoning & mirrors is important. Balance is ideal. Great vid.
@HeDronHeDronHedron
@HeDronHeDronHedron 20 дней назад
i could say the same about cammy being low because "excessive rushdown is bad" (also jp is insanely entertaining, i still remember this crazy anti-dp setup with him from season 1 pre ed)
@jettmanas
@jettmanas 20 дней назад
@@HeDronHeDronHedron Yep.
@acorn2565
@acorn2565 20 дней назад
i was NOT entertained... ...by that Kimberly gameplay. I'm sure I'm an outlier, but I really don't like long, big-damage combos with elaborate sequences. I certainly utilize them cuz they're strong & that's how games are designed now, but I'd prefer if both players got to play more due to shorter combos that do less damage & don't lead to silly midscreen set play mix-ups. I really miss the adaptations in & evolution of a fight. It's why I've always preferred the SamSho games & the (early) SF games. They always felt like the more tactical fighters compared to others (MvC & KI spring to mind). 1 combo into 1 bad guesses = next round? Not the 2 player experience I look for in a FG game, especially a Street Fighter game. Maybe I should be a Gief player?
@kingradinov1965
@kingradinov1965 20 дней назад
Man the skits are top notch! Now that said I absolutely hate this philosophy and how they go about it. Mainly because you can both make popular characters viable without making less popular characters less viable. Also there are plenty of characters that people don't have on the radar that get popular simply because they are good so how do they even know they aren't shooting themselves in the foot that way. It's so frustrating when you can see that Capcom isn't really trying with certain characters and then going all out to work on/fix others. It would be one thing if they tried some changes and they weren't enough one way or the other. But a lot of the time it just seems like they make token changes that don't really the "real" problems. With Manon she doesn't really play any differently. She has more options with combo routes, but her damage in in routes weren't really the problem. It really feels like they tossed her a cookie when she needed a new leg and left it at that. She's still my main and I still like using her. She's a viable character in that she technically can win against anyone. But I feel like they did her dirty by not really trying when it came time to adjust everyone.
@souljasleet
@souljasleet 18 дней назад
My philosophy has always been that difficult characters to play and master should be at the top of competition. Really off putting when extremely difficult characters see little reward.
@souljasleet
@souljasleet 18 дней назад
I also disagree on the reason they nerfed Jp. He wasn’t nerfed because of his archetype as a zoner. He was toned down for being extremely unique compared to the rest of the cast. Usually characters who are out there in fighting games get attacked really quickly. Think of Zato from strive. A character that’s setup heavy and really difficult to lab against at the highest level. One of the most popular takes people had of Jp was he felt like a MK/anime character in a sf game. Those characters can’t be amazing for long according to capcom.
@billyscenic5610
@billyscenic5610 13 дней назад
Who's to determine which characters are harder? Honda is easy to learn but difficult to open opponents who know how to parry. The effort = reward idea is deeply flawed when applied to balancing. Also SF6 is brain dead easy. If that's the case Sim should be top tier all the time.
@mrblooper1994
@mrblooper1994 19 дней назад
Put Lily back in the thumbnail plz
@MCMuraFGC
@MCMuraFGC 19 дней назад
There are 3 thumbnails for this video, its a new YT feature lol and they just rotate on what shows up for you
@sandau44
@sandau44 17 дней назад
man watching that KnuckleDu vs. Cammy clip tilted me haha
@puffyloverjuan4011
@puffyloverjuan4011 19 дней назад
JP really took all of the bad PR for Guile XDDDD
@POPPOP_PANDA
@POPPOP_PANDA 17 дней назад
I just wish Chun Li wasn’t being pushed to the side tbh
@evilded2
@evilded2 18 дней назад
I thought Rashid was just going to hit the Yasair tbh
@veegpp
@veegpp 20 дней назад
WHY DID MANON HAVE TO GIVE THE YELLOW APPLES 😭😭
@veegpp
@veegpp 20 дней назад
top tier content
@user-kp5tf9qt5l
@user-kp5tf9qt5l 20 дней назад
i dont think gief is top 5 but seeing the way japan talks about this character i am 100% confident that he is absolutely not surviving the next balance patch
@MuseseekerMan
@MuseseekerMan 20 дней назад
Also they seem to like making the American characters to be top tier.
@phaze12490
@phaze12490 20 дней назад
Bruh that Kimberly clip would forsure make me rage i wouldve been heated im forsure getting the hell off sf after that
@2saisai
@2saisai 20 дней назад
Al Baik is the king of fried chicken
@evilded2
@evilded2 18 дней назад
Here's the simple system: If I play the character they should be tier otherwise they should be unplayable trash. Simple :D
@ardidsonriente2223
@ardidsonriente2223 20 дней назад
TLDR: Game companies want to create money machines, not fair games.
@neves2493
@neves2493 18 дней назад
Interessing Trúe
@joelevy3042
@joelevy3042 20 дней назад
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 @ that intro. And Damn my brother, Rashid is shooting up EVERYBODY's tierlist. Fighting Game Select also just ranked him quite high.
@jwill7998
@jwill7998 20 дней назад
El Fuerte should return and be OP.
@evalangley3985
@evalangley3985 20 дней назад
JP being nerfed to the ground is a good example that Capcom don't know what the hell they are doing... in the meantime, all the DLCs are busted. Ed is probably the most busted of them all. He is top 10 for sure.
@Gleapgoogleplusisgone
@Gleapgoogleplusisgone 20 дней назад
I think you raise a lot of good points but m bison is just miserably over tuned right now. They gave him those dlc steroids day and night now ranked mode is miserable.
@checkmate8849
@checkmate8849 20 дней назад
Yet a zoner like guile is top tier 2nd game in a row
@prof.leomurga
@prof.leomurga 20 дней назад
I don’t think Bison is nearly as good as Akuma, for example. No AA, no defense, subpar damage for combos without the mine already planted and a lot of fake stuff to be punished. Also, Bison was always about air-to-air superiority. Not the case anymore. Which is a shame, because the new design is dope.
@computervision557
@computervision557 20 дней назад
Tournaments will tell, although X players will not admit their character are busted even their tournaments results are as good as Luke in S1(even slightly better, ex Ken)
@trkgaming1546
@trkgaming1546 18 дней назад
😂😂 Poor Manon
@hcbabyssian8936
@hcbabyssian8936 20 дней назад
Grapplers and gimmick characters like Fuerte, Viper, Rashid, Abigail and Manon have no reason to be even half decent. They are nothing but roster slot fillers. Once a new SF game is released, they'll be quickly forgotten.
@neves2493
@neves2493 20 дней назад
True tier list before the nerf: true level layer? S Tier 1. Ken 2. Luke 3. Dee Jay A Tier 4. JP 5. Blanka True?
@winstongarcia3931
@winstongarcia3931 20 дней назад
Give Kimberley a full Invul DP and I’ll be happy I promise…I won’t be happy no matter what 😢
@TheLuconic
@TheLuconic 20 дней назад
I also think Capcom should respect legacy. Ryu, Ken, Chun li. They are at the peak of their lives. So they should keep them top tier for that reason alone. By always going what’s flashy, they forget what put Capcom at the top in the first place.
@getterpaolo2473
@getterpaolo2473 17 дней назад
Hhahaha 😂😂 nice
@winstongarcia3931
@winstongarcia3931 20 дней назад
Not Gief please , I can’t keep getting grabbed
@neves2493
@neves2493 20 дней назад
*Bison is better than Akuma.* Apparently, maybe *Bison is second only to Ken.* I'm already convinced that Bison is between S Tier, unlike Akuma which for me is not S Tier even though it is *very strong*
@ouranos0101
@ouranos0101 20 дней назад
Bison is at best upper mid. His defense is jackshit once you crack it. Give him back his teleport!
@billyscenic5610
@billyscenic5610 13 дней назад
You're insane. That drive rush. No charge knee press. He's top 5 because capcom wants him to sell Season 5 passes.
@JS-zz9lg
@JS-zz9lg 20 дней назад
Make JP top tier again hes way sicker than Ken or boring shoto number 84
@crownlesssking2812
@crownlesssking2812 20 дней назад
Ahh yes, the 80th ground spike into shop setup is just such exciting yameplay
@crownlesssking2812
@crownlesssking2812 20 дней назад
Gameplay*
@HeDronHeDronHedron
@HeDronHeDronHedron 20 дней назад
@@crownlesssking2812 bro gets hit by a setup 80 times and thinks jp is the problem
@markmessi9020
@markmessi9020 20 дней назад
Manon should be top tier because yes. Spin should have invuln frames like season 1 cammys spin knuckle and give her bisons drive rush and crouching medium kick now cancels into spin and stand medium cancels into spin and spin cancels into spin oh yes! And she now has a slow moving projectile with a dp motion yes yes yes! P.S. Make Dee Jay great again!
@dvynal2964
@dvynal2964 20 дней назад
You’re asking for too much
@feelingfuzzied9942
@feelingfuzzied9942 20 дней назад
Should? I'm sorry, this is the definition of a toxic selfish mindset lol
@brad.g
@brad.g 20 дней назад
I don't think you watched the video here
@evalangley3985
@evalangley3985 20 дней назад
Bison is NOT top tier... wake up Mura.
@milton5417
@milton5417 20 дней назад
He isn’t Top 5 in my book, but his damage and buttons are crazy.
@MCMuraFGC
@MCMuraFGC 20 дней назад
@@evalangley3985 did i say he was ? Just said he is good
@jayro792
@jayro792 20 дней назад
It hasn’t even been a month since Bison came out and you, the mighty eva langley can state Bison isn’t top tier ???? Okaaay😒🙄
@PrincipalSkinner3190
@PrincipalSkinner3190 20 дней назад
Minority Opinion: All-around characters should never be top tier imo. Luke being top 1 was toxic.
@azizkash286
@azizkash286 20 дней назад
They should be good but other archetypes should be good as well
@computervision557
@computervision557 20 дней назад
An all-round character like Ken is top tier(top 5 in S1 and S2) They nerf Luke so hard I guess it is because there are so many players complain Another reason is if you are good, you can play sf6 like sf5 with Luke in S1(Mostly focus on neutral and defense, but Capcom want us rush more, more RSP)
@jayro792
@jayro792 20 дней назад
So basically they should all be like S1 Ryu??? Thats ridiculous
@PrincipalSkinner3190
@PrincipalSkinner3190 20 дней назад
@@jayro792 can you read? Seriously.
@jayro792
@jayro792 20 дней назад
@@PrincipalSkinner3190 ask yourself that clever clogs
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