Why 90% of People Chose Sony A7S III Over Canon C70 

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I've got a heck of a story to tell about the A7sIII and I can say VERY confidently... it's quite overrated AF! Coming from Canon and Blackmagic, I bought the A7sIII after being so influenced by the internet where it's almost impossible to find anything negative about it and boy was I let down! Sony's video compression, even when using the All-I at maximum bitrate, 4K, etc, is really poor. Where I really wanted to test it is for the low light situations since almost every camera nowadays already looks good if you shoot in broad sunny daylight, and plus everyone kept claiming/ swearing up & down that it is the low light king and all that.... yet the footage I shot in low light was all noisy and mooshy coz of sony's mp4 compression! And YES I researched/ used all the correct optimum/ native ISOs for S-log3, shoot it few stops overexposed, etc. My video tests were really extensive using a Sony native lens and everything was really just subpar. I mean it's just 'ok', but it really doesn't line up with the praises people claim. The footage was NOWHERE as clean people say! When I pointed that out in a FB group, these idiots just claimed my camera was spoiled or I just over-pixel-peeped, when in fact I was just viewing all my test footage at 100% on a 27" monitor! I swear people/ idiots ignorantly don't wanna hear anything bad/ wrong about this camera whatsoever! And shockingly I found that 2nd Native lowlight ISO 12800 is IN FACT overblown and overrated - the footage is clean BUT there is a forced DNR applied that you cannot disable and detail is lost by like 25%! That is seriously unacceptable and I truly wonder if the people (over)praising the camera are only JUST making youtube/ social media videos with it, where no one would actually see real details and would only view the stuff on phone-screens and nothing bigger. I even ended up questioning the credibility of youtubers like geraldUD, dpreview etc. If you use this thing for like commercials or anything professional, then it really needs very bright lights to assist it for clean pro-footage, BUT then again, ANY camera will look great when you've got production lights, correct? If there's anything good I gotta say about the A7sIII honestly is that in color grading, I was impressed by the highlight recovery as it reminded me a bit of using RAW video. Shadows however, is where I'd give it a huge F on the report card. As for the Autofocus, yeah it is reliable and at least that one met my expectation. It's not perfect as it can still hunt around when lighting is challenging (happens to all cameras anyhow) but I'd still call it usable for professional use. Wanna hear another truth? I actually bought the Panasonic S5 before this camera and my god, the low light in that camera was VASTLY superior to the A7sIII and no one mentions it! The ISO performance in the S5 was what I expected in the sony. I mean it doesn't hv a second native ISO, true, but even when using ISOs like 3200, it is seriously clean in low light and you can recover some detail without producing much noise! Same result if you use it for stills! The A7sIII looks horrible on said ISO and above, all the way up to the 2nd native ISO of cos. Actually, even on ISO 800 and 640 (A7sIII), I found there to be running noise I didn't like as well, and yes the S5 did better on those ISO levels too! Clearly the only thing the S5 lacked was video-autofocus [which has now been rectified in newer models of cos!] As for stills on the A7sIII, I didn't mind that it only produced 12mp, so long as the ARW quality was good but man it was the same horrid results! The same noise problems were apparent in all the same ISOs and yup, the S5 outperformed it in those same areas but nuff said. I've STILL kept all those huge GIGs of A7sIII video test footage to remind myself how unacceptable the footage was and as a reminder to myself that even if seemingly majority of the internet claims something, it does NOT mean it's ever true! Period! Anyhow I ended selling the A7sIII and went over to Canon's R5C and I was very impressed with the video footage that camera produced + all the many video resolution settings it had + Internal RAW video! It overall had way better bitrate and far better compression than the A7sIII! The S5 I'll say was STILL cleaner in higher ISOs (NO JOKE!) than the R5C but that's where the R5C's 2nd native ISO 3200 comes in real handy! Finally I was very content on both video quality and autofocus.

You judge cinema camera based on vlog and slow mo needs😂. The answer is, 90% of cinema cameras can't do stuff you wanted. You are not their target customer.

Proud owner of a fx3 and c70! Both are at the top in their own market, love them

You mean “Why 90% of Photographers that shoot video Chose Sony A7S III Over Canon C70” The C70 is a Cinema camera made for Videographers. It has ND filters built in, you don’t have to use screw in filters. The image quality of the c70 looks different than the a7s III. The C70 has a cinematic look compare to the a7s III digital look. The skin tone look better on the C70. If you want to look like a Photographer shooting video then buy the a7s III. The C70 doesn’t look like a Toy. The Canon C70 is more expensive, but it´s another level. You get what you pay!

If Panasonic puts phase detect AF into their MFT line, would you consider switching back? Maybe for cheap Anamorphic lens options?

That fade out starting at 2:20 was magic

I love lemon meringue pie. Just saying.

This was hilariously timely for me - used c70 is en route from mpb to me as we speak (~4200 USD). Plan on using the rf 15-35 (already owned).

Oh, that beautiful focus transition from the 4K button back to you was unexpected and top notch! It sounds like you'd really enjoy street photography with 35mm lens so you can shoot up close. LOL! That sad piano note after you said "...Canon seems to care..." was spot on. You worked a mom comment in there nicely.... I watched one of those ".. A7S II still good in 2023..." videos the other day. Even at that 12 MP level it did well with photography. As long as you're not cropping like Edward Scissors Hands or printing an image too large it does a great job. I was always under the impression that the glass was way too expensive for me. But, I've seen more recently that might not be true. And, there is a nice selection. Down the road when I'm ready I may just have to consider a used Sony for photography. By the time I'm ready the A7IV or V might be available at decent prices. Right now I'm still using the used X-T3 I bought back in 2020. I really like it, but would like to move to FF some day. Thanks for the morning laughs once again. Have a great weekend.

i feel like the C70 is more of an FX6 competitor rather than A7sIII

Casey, you may have answered this question, but just in case: vintage manual glass (Nikkor, Canon, etc.) vs new Chinese manual focus glass equivalents - which are better overall?

I try to avoid interfering but I have to make it known that lemon maringue is absolutely delicious.

will you be discussing that The Creator movie was filmed on FX3 ?

PLEASE get a C-70! As a C70 owner (who had to sell his mother on the streets of Gary, Indiana to afford it) I would love to see more videos on the eccentricities (code word for CH) of the camera. I will say however, at the end of the day, the C70 IS the Cinema right out of the camera. Makes that Sony picture look like what Go Pro will release in 2024.

90% of filmmakers had only two camera options? Ouch

damnn the amaount of time i laugh watching this channel videos is exponential. i'll loose my lung one day or another lmao

Someone had to say it. First experience with Canon Cinema was R5C; I bought one to replace overheating on R5 and had it all but 6 months and sold it because of auto exposure issues and menu issues. I have a R6 II that keeps me content until R5 II. I hope it comes out sooner than later.

Question. Are you noticing a richer sound quality from your new audio interface? Are you noticing the 4k setting difference? Your audio seems richer IMO.

The Canon cripple hammer gag always gets me xD

I have a question for you! If you had unlimited Leica level funds and money wasn't an issue what camera and lens combo would you get?

lol , that canon hammer was HILARIOUS!! specially the slam !! part !!!

Question - is the gh5s still a valid purchase in 2023?

Is that an intercom on the wall ?

I thought you were going to make this a short- “It’s way less expensive and easier to use “

"more buttons" I laughed my ass off on that one

I feel like saying what camera you picked is a way of saying, oh I can work past these flaws, give me validation.😂5wks with S5iix and it’s been enjoyable, have you tried one?

So you think on our smartphone we noticed the difference between HD and 4k 😅😅 or do se even care …

Are old old ef lenses the way to go on a budget right now? Got myself a 20-35 2.8 l and it's beautiful even though it's not particularly sharp. Not really a downside for video though

Love your channel, your honesty, and objectivity. I'm shooting RU-vid talking head videos using an R10 + RF 24MM f1.8 and fairly content. The only photos are for thumbnails. If I was to upgrade, what camera + lens would you recommend that would give significantly better videos before editing magic? I am intentionally not giving you a budget since I'm not interested in upgrading just to upgrade and see little difference.

thats one thing that killed me with my R5C why the heck does the R5 have animal detection....

So Mr. videographer I was planning to get the Sony A6700, pretty good camera with neat features for someone who takes photos and videos solo most of the team, New processor, Ai magic, Auto frame, gyro stabe I think that with the 70-200mm is a neat combo till sony gives us a good full frame body with neat price.

Yeah, but all of this 4K 120FPS, 16 bit raw, 759 AF points, Exmor R BSI CMOS Full Frame Sensor and ya'll still cant figure out how to capture 4K UFOs? What kinda conspiracy is this?? I see Nikon capturing Giants on Mountains from 1,000,000 feet away in high quality, why can't Sony and Canon do the same? lol

lol the 4k mode fade out

Would you buy and stay loyal to fuji if they released the organic sensor with 24 stops of dynamic range and everything

As a Canadian RU-vidr with a superior Sony A7S3. I am shocked that you do no nighttime vlogging and especially no aurora video. What is a better camera than an A7S3 for videoing Aurora and other night scenes with stars in them?

I'm getting a used Canon EOS 5D and cheap lens. You can't stop me. No one can save me from myself.

JUST SUBBED TO YOU... ITS 4AM AND LISTENING TO YOU IS AUTHENTIC OR IM STILL SLEEPY... TRUTH

I like watching your videos full of stuff I'll never buy; but I do learn stuff! And Laugh! If anyone is Low/No budget, like me and need a point and shoot that won't overheat in hot weather, I shoot my photos with a Canon Vixia HF G10 set on auto and animate them with the software. All the photos in my videos (except thumbs) are untouched. If you like Cool Cars, stop on by!

For wildlife video, Sony A6700 with 70-350 or Fuji XT4 with 70-300? Im going lightweight because of how much hiking is required

Ok,got a question for you. How we view our art is in my opinion a crucial factor. For instance my Z50 produced some beautiful video of orange blossom recently. Or is it what I am viewing it on ? Is the , say , Benq sw 321c a true 10 bit monitor and is it worth the money for those wanting to actually see what thier cameras can shoot ?

Dual C70 owner here. The a7s III is the best mirrorless cam in the business and is a incredible value. The a7s III though i think doesn't work out the box as a "cinema cam", not that it's a problem for the majority of users. However some professionals will have to rig it out and once that is done you have a rig that is equal to or more than the size/weight of the c70. I really love that we have the c300 mk3 sensor, the best dynamic range under the 7k mark, great colors, multiple lens options (rf/ef), incredible battery life and internal raw on cheap sd cards. The last part is a big deal since it eliminates more traditional cinema cam rigs that are more restrictive or expensive as well as avoiding the hassle of external recorders. If you check the used market now you can get some c70s for under the 4500 range.

To help the cause - my sister in law asked for camera recommendations because she is an interior designer and wants to photograph her own work. Also wants to use it to photograph her outdoor adventures. Not as interested in video. Budget between $1,500 and $3k. New options on budget end I recommended a6400 with the sigma 18-50. New high end I recommended canon eos r with 24-105 f4 or R8 with same lens. Also nikon z6 with 24-70 f4 on sale rn for $2k. Used, I said Fuji xt3 with sigma 18-50 or canon 5d mk iii with EF 24-105 f4. No doubt she regrets asking me. Should I have just told her to use her iPhone?

Question for you. I'm sure you've answered this in 16 different ways but I have a poor memory. I want an action cam to capture event attendance, like walking through a festival type of thing. Cam would be just attached to backpack strap or other static mount. Thank you

But does the c70 get firmware updates? And do those firmware updates disable fearures that existed prior to the update?

Hi, Kasey! I bought nebula tripod , thanks for you recommendation, it’s great ! What lens would you suggest to get for S5ii for vlogging, I’ve got 20-60 kit , should I get some wide prime also ? I think 20-60 doesn’t have stabe in lens. I noticed when I use 50mm prime with stabe in the lens combined with ibis it’s much better footage handheld! Thank you !

Any love for vintage super 16 zoom lenses on MFT? Looking for something to pair with GH6

If all things created equal in terms of major functionality like frame rates, recording modes and battery life, which company would you choose based off firmware updates? I mean, Panasonic has been the most consistent out of all of the brands in terms of supporting their older cameras. It is true that some of their feature enhancing firmware updates cost money but it is still an option.

If you are a millionaire and want a big camera with a small sensor (and no IBIS or EVF), then the Canon C70 is perfect for you. If you're not a millionaire and want a small camera with a large sensor (and IBIS and and EVF), then you might have to settle for the Sony A7S III. By the way, why isn't the grip on the back?

Id go with the ZV-E1.. packed with features.. and for RU-vid work.., none of the body drawbacks really matter.. PS - never had mine overheat.. used out in 80+ degree F temps for fairly long takes.. Built in NDs and anamorphic modes would be a nice thing for all mirrorless cameras from now on though.. You ever think to play around with anamorphic lenses?

best lenses for sony?

Great job on the video Kasey! Thanks for making it.

i wanted to kick myself in the face for buying my as7iii because it was so much more camera than i needed (got a deal on a second hand shit) but every time i use it im always so happy with it. and the cf express cards are the most life changing part of all. (never would have even considered buying one at the price but it came with the camera). Now i find myself only wanting to use the a7siii vs my other cameras just because i can offload 3 hours of footage from the card to my computer in 7 seconds when it takes roughly 43 days to offload from my other cameras using standard sd cards.

He said I never married your mom!! 😂 😂!

Speed boosters has lots of elements, so forget about that if you want 3dpop

I’ve been searching FB marketplace everyday for a deal on a C70.

Sony fx30 or Panasonic gh6 or Sony a6700 for slomo wildlife?

This is hands down the funniest camera related video I've watched thus far

4K audio?!

Doesn't FX30 have all the main features of C70 but for cheaper? DR is worse but nobody is doing HDR on YT anyway and its enough for 99% of the SDR use cases.

Here's a question. If camera manufacturers fought each other, who would win in UFC fight?

Ah the Sony fanboi, I miss Panny boi Casey days 😢

S5II 1080 50p switch to DFD. And you can physiclly feel it if you have sigma lenses( in PDAF its smooth in DFD It struggles) What else panasonic don't tell us?

@YCImaging chose c70 + not many Sony menu defenders + c has 1 stop dr more + Thanks for including me in the show ❤

Casey, I know that you know that Olympus M4/3 cameras produce the best video-per-dollar-spent output.

please explain what the freak is 3d pop

The competitiin for canon c70 is sony fx6 which is more expensive than c70 not shuty little sony s3

Sony’s newest ambassador

Yeah, the lack of higher end RF APSC lenses kills the C70 for a lot of people.

Because it kicks ass. But I want a S52X.

Do you think Sony is waiting for Canon to release the new R5ii before they decide what firmware to put in the Siv? You can shoot movies for Tubi and Troma with the Siii, probably overkill for Lloyd Kaufmans group.

Or the ZV-E1 which has the AI chip with all the new autofocus features, ability to load LUTs, lens breathing compensation, modern menu system, quick action touch screen, etc, etc :) - funny really...

Ahhh! Hammer time! lol...😂

Speaking of squirrels, are they still active? Getting fed by flat earth Santa? Next to slow mo street crossing and beach popping scenes, we need the cinema squirrels back in our lives. Please.

Hey Kasey, I have a question for you: is Sony a6700 good enough for wildlife video? I know it is huge crop in 4K 120p and 1080 240p but with 70-350 lens we talking about 830mm equivalent and 4K 60p without crop at 525mm equiv. Whole package would be only 1118 grams and bird/animal eye detect I believe

Now do why some people chose a Sony r5 over a canon t5 - they are both 5s and it seems like a T5 would be better than an R5 because its a higher alphabet digit.

In theory the a7s3 is netflix approved because it is basically the same camera as fx3, and fx3 is netflix apprvoved🤔

Cause its cheaper and they cant afford high quality real cinema camera .. there u go :)

Da heck with 6k price

upgrade to an fx3 or a7rv

What is the worst piece of gear you've ever bought?

Had a C70 for a month, it's all good except for the flimsy, cheap-ass plastic body and ridiculously fragile and wonky flippy screen. And the missing EVF. Plus, got C70 vs XT4 footage for a yet unreleased comparison video, both shot in LOG (C-log 2 and F-log), if you'd take a look at them.

The best EVF in the world with the SONY??? Haha, you should try a Leica SL.

Who told you that ?

I believe biggest reason is that Canon have dumb idea to change lens mount to something that is not accepted (or allowed, I don't know) third party manufacturers. Real dumbass move when Sony was pushing those incredibly great camerabodies and you can find lenses from other manufacturers. Canon should have create something like new open specification & standard lensmount, open to everyone, have even 3D-printable files if someone one to create own lens in kitchen and use this lensmount for competition, as they are making excellent lenses. They could have easily 3-5 years of time to improve camera body and sensor without worrying competition because people want to invest camera system that lasts as long their previous EF-mount. For full frame small cinema camera, I'm pretty sure that some FX3 + Sigma Art 24-70mm + ND filter is at the moment excellent choice.

It's ok. I watch in 360p

Not-at-all hot take: the Panasonic S5 ii line is vastly better than these two cameras

can barely make difference out in 4K vs HD even on 4k monitor.

The C70 is a great cinema camera..... but yeah, key word, cinema camera, that raw image, bellow 60P with that duel gain sensor, it has this organic filmic feel of the footage. it is really good... but only if your shooting raw, its internal compressed codecs are meh. and no 120p in raw in 1080p canon? really? pathetic!

You now say that because you don’t have that camera. We see you before trashing cameras than then you love… 😂 there’s many examples… Black Magic, EOS R etc…

Sometimes when I watch your videos I can't tell if I am still high from the previous night or you are just saying crazy shit.

You always like to start out a video saying "Photographers are like...." but wouldn't you be counted more like a videographer, since you don't really care about stills?

Pain

C 70 have dual gain sensors. If Sony makes a dual gain than its game over.

WHY DO YOU NEED GOOD CAMERA IF YOU ONLY SHOOT YOUR TALKING HEAD ? :) IPHONE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH FOR THIS TYPE OF CONTENT.

Does anybody still buy the A7s III?

You know Sony is not giving us a firmware update purely and solely so they can sell us the A7Siv. Damn you Sony. And I will buy it. I will buy it. It works. Well done Sony.

Casey, if that's your name, better not be. Nothing on the a6700? Really? Please review.

entirely slow mo doubles creativity