Why a misty mirror led to many marriages 

Here's the direct quotes from the creator: www.cnbc.com/2017/01/06/how-a-tinder-founder-came-up-with-swiping-and-changed-dating-forever.html

@@lateralcast thanks for the source ✌

@@davidanderson5310 The thing is not about inventing it, but to base the app on the gesture. It looks like something one would get to in brainstorming: what is an intuitive way to use the (young) device the app is supposed to be used on, binding app and device and setting it apart from old and unsexy devices? The next question then was "What narrative is sexier than this question - what feels intimate and can be swiped?" and the answer was bathroom mirror.

This is also a very spurious causal relation.

plus maybe Badeen's own narrative (as in how he remembers it happening) is this story, we may never know.. object truth is really hard to find

why not listen to the podcast then?

@@simon_patterson Because there needs to be _something_ in the title and thumbnail. They could say say "Episode #38" or whatever, but that's quite boring and wouldn't not bring in anyone who has the video recommended to them (which is how I found Lateral initially). Usually the titles pick on some ultimately-fruitless part of the conversation. I am surprised this title didn't involve "moldy" (incorrect but it was discussed) instead of "misty" (which was actually important to the right answer).

@@theadamabrams "Why a bathroom fan led to many marriages" would work just as well and doesn't contain spoilers.

@@theadamabrams say "how a broken bathroom fan led to many marriages" You spoil the question, not the answer

Just part of the question would do. "A mirror lead to 125 US marriages last year". I watch Tom on a TV attached to my computers, not interested in a podcast. The picture of the mirror gave part of the story away. Didn't intuit the Tinder bit as I don't use it.

This is my headcanon now

How much of that is just due to the users being younger, though? Or in general, some factor that causes both dating app use and shorter marriages, rather than dating app use itself causing shorter marriages?

@@SolomonUcko Like, the people that would use something like that are usually not wanting to be commited in a serious relationship? (Generally)

​@@SolomonUckoIIRC age isn't that big of a factor when it comes to divorces. What is one though is the number of sexual partners. Even sleeping with only your future spouse before marriage increases the likelihood of divorce, but with every partner the risk goes up drastically. And tinder is primarily used for hookups

@@ishashka I mean there's a high correlation between waiting until marriage and being overly religious and not ever admitting divorce as an option. I would guess people who meet on dating apps live in larger cities, move around more, know more people and are more educated (read it as less religious), and all of those sound like they increase the likelihood of divorce.

Agreed, I was surprised that none of them knew that!

I don't know, I feel like by the time you get married you should know each other really well. If two people don't, and only find out once they're married that they're a bad match, then that's not the fault of the app they met on. If the divorce rates are higher, it might be because they don't have a common circle of friends or other social obligation that would incentivize them staying together. Maybe they match well in terms of personality but come from really different backgrounds, so there's less social pressure to "make it work". Just speculation on my part though.

Carp?

@@Blue-Maned_Hawk an oblique reference to catfish.

Doesn't surprise me, Tinder makes me cringe, but speed dating is meme-level 'people actually do this? it's not a joke?' types of cringe. If I ever used it, I absolutely expect that, should I get a match, I'd absolutely refuse to meet anyone anyway, because it's too awkward.

@@CrimsonKage I'm kind of the same, but I have friends' couples who found themselves through those apps, so maybe one day I'll put my prejudices behind me ...

I think the new "speed dating" event is the "pet adoption event". We happened to go a tap room one evening when, unbeknowst to us, they were having a dog adoption event, and clearly the folks there were looking for more than just pups.

Many congrats!

Here's the creator's interview: www.cnbc.com/2017/01/06/how-a-tinder-founder-came-up-with-swiping-and-changed-dating-forever.html

@@lateralcast I don't think anyone is saying you made it up. We just don't trust the creator in the slightest.

sure but you literally just heard stats that it's commonplace and it works

It's just like those dating ads in the paper back in the day. It's just a way of finding people that are interested in dating, if the representation doesn't match up with reality, well, there won't be a second date. Obviously there's an added danger, but there always is when you go on a date with someone you barely know

We needed that guess on this episode!

kind of disrespectful to other people he could meet up with. He won't do that

@@ForeverHobbit I think it would be fine if he puts it in his profile that he'll be filming the dates, but that also means he'll get people swiping just because they want to be on youtube.

Then again, he also seems like the kind of person who'd keep a relationship or a family out of the eye of the public (wisely so I'd say). Maybe he is married/dating and simply got reminded of the endboss of all living things.

In retrospective: I was so off. I thought it would have been a simple matter of sharing a single picture or short video. It got out of hand (by the muddled misty message), and reached 250k people "accepting" the involuntary proposal.

*points to the word "couples"*

​@@lateralcastLMAOOO

Really not funny.

I guessed right away that it was something about a dating app, but didn't think about the swiping.

My wife thinks I'm ADHD

Ehh... how do you think introverts formed relationships before the internet? We weren't just waiting around to fulfil our final form. Sometimes easier isn't best. Not dissing people who meet online but there are many ways it can be less than ideal from the psychology of overwhelming choice, to fomo and its effect on choosing to commit, to it being contrived based on one another's self-perception being the basis of first impressions, interferance with the natural order of getting to know people that we innately understand etc etc. Lots of reasons for introverts to use older fashioned methods based on going out into the world and pursuing interests with a comfortable number of others. Many introverts do best with extroverted partners, even though they wouldn't choose them as an online match while in their private comfort zone. Some of the healthiest marriages I know just wouldn't happen via online dating. Again, not saying it can't, or doesn't work. Just that it's a lot newer than successful introvert romance. 😜

OpenMoko had "swipe to unlock" in 2007.

That's not the story, the guy isn't claiming he came up with the gesture. They were making the app and wanted to find something more "emgaging" than just pushing buttons. He then (supposedly) got the idea cleaning his mirror

Like an old flame.