"she was a mighty and one of a kind ship" that just so happens to have nearly identical sister and cousin ships, the oklahoma, colorado, arkansas, and texas.
It wasn’t disgraced-YOU knew that, it was one of many old and obsolete battleships, this is not a history channel but a clickbait one. Be proud of accomplishing…..nothing.
Seeing Nevada make steam & move down the channel under intense aerial attack, despite taking major damage, while the rest of the Pacifc fleet burned & sank all around her, was one of the most stirring visuals from that fateful morning. It conveyed a powerful message to all Americans, that we will fight back without regard to the odds & whatever the cost. Its statement made to the Japanese couldn’t have been any clearer: “You choose war? So be it. We’re coming for you.” Nevada should’ve been preserved as a museum at Pearl Harbor, to keep watch over her fleet-mate Arizona’s Memorial.
Agreed. I often wondered why none of the six battlewagons had been preserved at Pearl. Nevada would have been a solid choice as a Pearl Harbor museum ship.
@@dannyv2335 True, nobody gave much thought to preservation, Enterprise, Warspite, and so many others were sent to the breakers. Thank God Texas was spared, the last of the old Dreadnoughts, she is in drydock now getting some much needed TLC.
The Nevada was not disgraced, she distinguished herself in multiple combat operations, she was a tough old girl who gave as good as she got and no enemy got the better of her, not Hitler or Hirohito or even a friendly fire 'A' bomb could sink her. She deserves a Congressional Medal of Honour.
@@frenchiee_96 Crossroads only saw two weapons used, and "ate 3 of those bombs and didn't sink" is a statement that goes against what operation Crossroads revealed. You have to be about a mile from the bomb(and presenting a vulnerable profile) to take enough damage to just "sink", and the worst way to take the blast is on the broadside(has a tendency to roll your ship over). The primary effect is that it's likely everyone on board dies from radiation poisoning, and if the weapon detonates underwater the seawater thrown out is HIGHLY radioactive. The Nevada was the target for able, but the bomb was about 1.7 NM distant. She mostly took contamination splash from Baker. All in all, the Nevada fared no better or worse than any other ship in the test. The operation did inform our modern policies on the N in NBC for naval vessels, as we learned that: 1) all ships are pretty much equal against the damaging effect of a nuke. 2)Take the blast on the bow or stern. Especially for top heavy ships like battleships or the Prinz Eugen, as a roll is likely if you take the blast on the broadside. 3)modern deluge gear to put up a wall of seawater to hopefully "catch" as much radiation as possible 4)decontamination stations and procedures, which were worked out by decontamination experiments on the hulks from Baker.
Agreed, for all the hoopla, it is, and was, a tool of war. Inanimate objects cannot be disgraced. She served her purpose time and time again. The crew who serve her would most likely feel differently, by I am sure would ultimately agree.
Disgrace?? how? She had a glorious career! fought more than most ships in history. So instead of being scrapped, she was used to make sure her granddaughters was up to date for the next conflict. and then she became one of the most beautiful things in the world - a station posted around Hawaii, like her sister. Not a wreck,a reef of life.
Huge waste of resources. She is a pollutant now. Coral doesn’t grow at that depth. She should have been cut down and melted. Rebuilt into a new ship. Instead we sunk 1685 tons of steal. So now we have to replace 1685 tons of steal.
@@harmless-kun thats what im saying, how did they disrespecting it sorry you dont know the tense i was speaking in. but please explain to me how it was disgraced. cos i dont think it was.
@@Fabermain Reading it again, yeah I get what you are getting at. I'm convinced by your point that she served a purpose of making the newer battleships ready for the next war. I'm saying the leaders(American Leaders) disgraced her based on the title. Different viewpoints i guess...
I worked several years with a man named Bob Norman who was on BB-36 that day at Pearl. He was a Petty Officer in charge of Turret #4. Ensign Joe Taussig, the Officer of the Deck and A-A batteries OIC, was severely wounded and stranded up on the mast with one leg blown off and bleeding badly. Bob climbed up, his clothes catching on fire as he went and scorching his back. He reached Taussig, applied a tourniquet then strapped him into a stretcher, tied it to the mast and slowly lowered it down to the deck. Taussig gave him a direct order to leave him at his station as they were still being fired upon by the Japanese, but Bob told him that if they survive, he can court-martial him for refusing the order. Taussig lost his leg but not his career as he returned to duty and later retired a Captain (O-6). He fought many years to recognize Bob, who saved him and helped the ship fight back, and in 1998 Bob received the Silver Star due to Joe Taussig's perseverance. Bob later had made Ensign, spent over 36 years in the Navy, commanded a ship during Vietnam and in an operation was awarded a Bronze Star w/V-device; he also retired a Captain. During the early 90's I was in Reno and attended the dedication of the USS Nevada Memorial behind the capitol at Carson City. Dedicated to brave and daring men who helped preserve the freedom of a country.
That's actually a sad ending for such a brave ship. She isn't disgraced. But I'd say her country didn't honor her as they should have. Rest easy giant lady.
For all her service she deserved to become a memorial and museum for the next generations to come. What American seaport would refuse to have such a ship honor them with her presence.
MY thoughts Exactly She Was A Hero Ship At every Battle she Was IN And anyone That Puts Her down Should Be IN Jail for A Long Long Time FOR Their Slander OF HER !!
As A retired crewman of scrapped ships AND a targeted-sunk ship, I understand what you are saying. HOWEVER, we spent years onboard my ships doing our utmost every day to keep them afloat! The saddest thing for any ship's company sailor is to see her targeted and sunk by her fellow warships. I would much rather see mementos taken from them and given to museums or set in parks across America. While out driving I often imagine whether the bridge girders I move across might be steel from them. I have some mementos from my two scrapped carriers in my home, and smile at the memories they produce. Even lunch trays made from their aluminium still are 'in service' to Americans! My sunken carrier pleases only the occasional fish and runs completely counter to her intended purpose. I feel very sad for former crewmen who can never again touch pieces of her still 'on the surface' in parks and museums! I KNOW, I am one of them (CV-14-scrapped, CVA-34-sunk, CV-61-scrapped)
Thank you so much for this video. I had a first blood uncle on the Nevada. My mother's brother, George Maiella, the son of Italian immigrants. My uncle was assigned to the Nevada after she was repaired. He was on the old ship to his last days of active duty. Now, as an 80 year old man, I still remember seeing him, proudly wearing his Navy uniform before he mustered out of active duty. My uncle was very 'emotional' about HIS ship, the Nevada.
Awesome. My uncle, also my mother's brother, immigrants from Norway. Robert Olson joined the Navy in 1939 and was assigned to the U.S.S. NEVADA at Pearl Harbor. He was a gunners mate and was a part of every experience until the end of the war. They probably knew each other. I'd like to think they did.
The United States has far more preserved museum ships than any seafaring country, including Great Britain. Nevertheless, the vast majority of our country's veteran warships are gone. There are many reasons there are not more preserved warships, but the cost of upkeep is among the foremost reasons. There's also the matter of space. Harbors are crowded. However, the primary reason is the cost of purchase. Most preserved warships have been purchased from the Navy as required by law. (Battleship Missouri was donated by an act of Congress because of her special significance as the site of the final surrender of the Japanese Empire.) U.S.S. Enterprise accomplished much more than Nevada or any of the super dreadnoughts belonging to the United States Navy, but she was scrapped. Nevada's sister, U.S.S. Oklahoma, capsized in the attack on Pearl Harbor with great loss of life. She was raised and sold for scrap, but she sank whilst under tow to the breaker's yard. Others were expended as targets or sunk as breakwaters or artificial reefs. I'd be interested to know whether those who deplore the fate of Nevada, such as the operator of this channel, have donated to the private organizations that own and exhibit museum ships. If not, why not? At this moment, U.S.S. Texas, the sole survivor of America's battleships that joined the Home Fleet in WWI, is undergoing massive repairs and restoration. If you're outraged that Nevada was expended rather than preserved, then you may comfort yourself by visiting battleshiptexas.org/donate/
Especially after Nevada was refit after the attack at Pearl harbor. It's not like after the first war when the US used seized German ships. Granted that Prinz Eugene was used in the atomic tests.
Before the Texas was moved to the island, I took my sons out to see her. In the call of duty game they play, the Texas is a multiplayer map. I asked if they wanted to go see the real ship… beautiful. They was letting people board.
Ah, the USS Texas, the only ship (that I know of) to incorporate the gangster lean in combat operations. For anyone that doesn't know the crew of the Texas flooded one side of their ballast tanks to raise the angle of their guns to reach further inland at Normandy.
As a Nevadan myself, I'm saddened that this ship along with her British counterpart, the H.M.S. Warspite, weren't saved and tuned into museum ships, but I'm still happy that we still have the U.S.S. Texas. Maybe in an alternate universe it is proudly sitting in Pearl Harbor along with the U.S.S. Missouri.
Also in that alternate universe the USS Illinois was completed as a battleship and still cuts the seas as one of the most powerful to patrol the planet
@kevinfreeman3098 the Illinois would be just as powerful as her sister Iowas and Kentucky. Well part of the Kentucky was used on the Wisconsin to make Wiskey while Illinois was scrapped so I'd be sore to.
The USS Nevada should be sitting where that POS USS Missouri is berthed now. The USS Nevada had a history with Pearl Harbor. The USS Missouri has NONE and has NO right to be berthed at Pearl Harbor. That berth should be for the USS Nevada or the USS Enterprise!
@@benmiland5245 Nevada (BB-36) was clobbered as a target ship for Able, Baker, BB gunnery, and finally an aerial torpedo//...Active in WWs 1-2. Practice sinking her ala-colossal was not a loss to USN. Currently Nevada is boomer (SSBN-733). Actually, a nuke fight is absurd and ruinous. She now serves nothing but MAD...
Nevada was a symbol of the December 7th attack of not giving up where despite taking hits, was able to get under steam and try to make it out of the harbor. She is as famous as the USS Arizona and should've been preserved. We had enough other ships, including battleships that could've taken its place for the test.
She would have my first choice to save.She was the only pre war carrier to survive the war.Unfortunately USS Enterprise(CVN-65)doesn't seem to be on the list to save her.2 USS Enterprises with honorable and distinguished services will end up at the breakers.It's sad, truly sad.
@@jacobmccandles1767 Most famous and most significant ship in history. Single handedly held the line while the pacific fleet was destroyed and being repaired and replaced. It’s crew sank the carriers that attacked Pearl. It’s the most historically significant vessel ever and was scrapped.
@@NAVYPROUD34 I didn't quite understand that you meant "disgraced by not being preserved". Yes, that IS a disgrace. My father was on a light cruiser that fought from the Alutians, to the Solomons, to the Sea of Japan. Knowing that it went to the breakers hurts my heart.
Sister referring to where she was docked one would assume, could also be they are both battleships/cruisers although as you've pointed out, not of the same class.
They were built in the same era using many of the same components equipment and building methods, so in a way you can say that they are siblings or sisters.
My grandfather served on the Nevada between the world wars. He had many stories about the boxing matches that he would get into that were sanctioned by the ship's officers as a way to settle grudges and relieve tensions.
Id say the eight hour long story my grandfather told about making his way to and across the beachhead is the most comprehensive story about Operation Neptune that I've ever heard, it's also a firsthand account that's not been molested by being told over and over by different folks...
In about 1995. I had man show up at my door looking for directions. We lived i a small town then of 2000. I directed him to the right location, but then I noticed had on his head a baseball cap saying USS Nevada. On inquire, who told me he was on the USS Nevada during the attack on Pearl Harbor. I dont remember the rest of the conversation. I was in awe of the living history right before my eyes. Ah, that greatest generation !
When I was a boy growing up in Carson City, I'd often go to the state museum and see USS Nevada's silver service, a gift given to her officers from her namesake with the silver having been mined from Tonopah and the gold from Goldfield. I always was sad to hear how she ended her days, but proud that she remained true to her state's name to the end.
A security guard who worked at the Carson City museum served on the NV (BB-36) and told me the history of the ship. What an amazing history. That was ship was everywhere!
She wasn't disgraced at all. I'm ex-Royal Navy and have had a couple of my former ships sunk as targets. They helped train a new generation of sailors and went with honour, far better than being ripped apart in a breakers yard. And then, they became something beautiful. Sea life grew and moved in as they became artificial reefs, new life in the mess decks we once called home. Nevada and her sister are also parts of this amazing legacy. Disgrace? Never!!
She was a glorious ship with a fantastic history of war. My dad was on the Nevada at Pearl Harbor. It was beached, reflated and served with distinction during WWII. Disgraced. I don't think so!
1:53 The United States never declared war against the Triple Alliance because it did not exist. The Triple Alliance was formed on 20 May 1882 when the Kingdom of Italy joined the Dual Alliance of Germany and Austria-Hungary. It was dissolved on 3 May 1915 when Italy abrogated the treaty to align herself with Triple Entente (France, the U.K., and Russia). Thereafter, the former Triple Alliance became the Central Powers. The United States became a combatant power in the First World World through two separate declarations. The first was issued on 4 April 1917 against Germany alone. On 7 December 1917, another declaration of war was issued against Austria-Hungary.
The old girl gave it all she had , she fought in both the Atlantic and the Pacific and it's a shame she eventually went done at the end as target practice , a great salute to you Nevada
She was a "good" ship. If they couldn't save CV 6 then no ship was safe. It is fitting that NCC 1707 was named in honour of the carrier that fought alone against the whole of the kitobutti
AMEN to that. CV 6 stood alone against the Imperial Japanese 20 battle Stars an more damage than the Nevada would ever see. If any WW2 ship should have been Enterprise
@@deanjacobs1766Battle Stars are participation trophies. Everyone got one being part of an operation. Presidential Unit Citations were the award for Valor and heroism and the Navy Unit Commendation. Only the Big E CV-6 received both.
The British did not invade at Taranto. They conducted a port air strike using a smaller group of aircraft, but it showed the world (and the Japanese) that it could be done,
True. He also said Operation Neptune was just another name for Operation Overlord, which is simply not true. This guy's actual knowledge of history could fit in a thimble, with room left over. This entire video is garbage and he should be ashamed of himself for posting such trash. His channel should be called "It's NOT History."
@@bunzeebear2973 Because from that one italian city,the brits showed that an air raid on a port is possible,and the japanese did the same,but on a far grander scale and with far better aircrafts. The japanese studied the Taranto raid,unlike the americans
The reason why Iowa was unable to sink Nevada was that Iowa struggled to hit Nevada at long range. At the time, it was widely believed that the fire control radar (based on the Mark 13 radar range keeper) aboard Iowa would enable her to do so with unprecedented long- range accuracy. However, they navy knew little about shell dispersion- the tendency of shells fired from a turret to interfere with one another's flight path. The actual bombardment in July of 1948 lasted for five days- after which the force, comprising Iowa and a cruiser and destroyer, abandoned the attempt. Nevada was then sunk by air- dropped torpedo attack.
What a shame. Imagine Pearl Harbor today with a shiny new looking Nevada moored to the right of the Arizona and Missouri on the left. What a fine tribute it would have been. Hindsight.
Most warships are either scraped or used as targets. That's the way it's always been. It costs millions to maintain a ship. Only governments can do that.
My father was in Company E of the 151 in the Aleutian Islands when the Nevada came to the rescue. My brother has his photo album with a picture of the USS Nevada off the coast of Attu.
The Arizona was not Nevada's sister ship . Usually a sister ship is a ship that is from same class . Arizona's sister ship was the Pennsylvania. Of the Pennsylvania Class. Both were at Pearl HARBOUR that day .
More importantly, Nevada was missed a lot. The IJN Pilots trying to sink her in the entrance channel of Pearl Harbor were not pursuing primary targets.
My father was there as Master (Omaha, Gold, Sword and Juno) on a transport. He told me they called the water the "Red tide" because of the blood.... they ran alongside the shoreline dropping off troops, blankets, ammo, fuel and beans. The "Worst load" ever? "A shipload of drunken doctors".... his own words.
Not disgraced. She was given a proper send off as a distinguished battle wagon. As a U.S. Navy submariner, I can’t think of a better send off other than a museum piece. Better than a scrap yard.
The UK RU-vidr Drachinifel has a excellent 3 part video series on the the USN Salvage operations after the Pearl Harbor attack . www.youtube.com/@Drachinifel/search?query=pearl%20harbor%20salvage . Also He has a great 1:54:00+ video on the Pearl Harbor Attack itself as well as a Hour video theories on what actually sunk the Arizona
I admire the Nevada's legacy She was a stout fighting ship and should have been preserved. Her conduct at Normandy is legendary in the U.S. Army. BB-36 May she always have calm seas and following winds. Thank you for posting this video. My Dad (U.S. Army 1942-1952) would be proud.
For all she went through, the Nevada should have become a museum ship. She is, however, among good company. Others who should be recognized for their contribution to the war effort include the Tennessee, which was in the war from start to finish, fired more shots with her main guns than any other naval ship, and of course, the Enterprise, which, for all her contributions was the most decorated ship in the U.S. navy. Like they say, "You don't know what you've got 'till it's gone".
Excellent documentary- thanks for producing and sharing! I know it’s a small thing, but the still photo of the capsizing Nevada at time stamp 13:56 is upside down (or was that an attempt to right her posthumously?.)
I've heard that the 2nd boiler was activated to give the crew something to do and the moral from the Nevada moving was so high that all the other shipped paused firing to cheer her on and they could see the men cheering from the decks and docks
The officers of the Nevada, during the Pearl Harbor attack, gave an order by mistake that helped save the ship. Thinking that one of the nearby ships had had an internal explosion, instead of a torpedo/bomb hit. They ordered: away damage control parties.
"Unfortunately the good times came to an end with the capitulation of Japan..." Did you just call WWII "good times"? About 50 Million people and their ghosts have "the old two words" for you on that one!
When the Nevada left to go get more ammunition. She came back, flooded one side of the ship and started launching shells 50 60 Miles in land to help in the invasion.
If I recall, after Korea only the Iowa class battleships were kept either in mothballs or on active duty during Viet Nam. A few battle ships like the Texas went to museums paid for by the people of the states whose names they bore, as well as an aircraft carrier or two. But the rest were scrapped.
In 2020, my niece was part of the exercise that sunk the USS Rodney M. Davis during RIMPAC 2020. Her father was a Machinists mate on the Davis from 1990 to 1993, before she was even born. She was asked how it felt to be part of the sinking of her dad's ship, she said it was an honorable end to a faithful sailor. The Nevada wasn't dishonored, she served in every capacity she was asked to, to her best ability.
Mr. Sokesh is such an awesome narrator but I can't help but notice how he butchers a relatively simple-ish word every now and then By no means am I speaking down on him, just a casual observation.
You know what, she had a great life! She fought harder then anybody expected, was stronger then anybody expected, and she went out as she lived! In combat! She had an honorable fate, and today she is a beautiful coral reef!
On a side note, it's remarkable how similar the Nevada BB-36 and USS Texas, BB-35 look alike but their designs were significantly different. Texas had the same open cage masts when first launched and the same style of bumps and notches in the hull just below the forward main deck. Those were casemates for the 5 inch guns. The Nevada's construction was a major turning point in battleship design. She was powered by steam turbines where the Texas had triple expansion reciprocating steam engines. Nevada had a number of turrets for twin 5"/38 cal guns where all of the 5" guns on Texas are open single mounts. The Nevada was the first battleship designed with the "all or nothing" armor scheme where vital areas were heavily armored and the remainder of the ship was unarmored. This resulted in a stronger and lighter ship because the armor was an integral part of the design where previously the armor was designed after the rest of the ship was designed. The Nevada was a ship with many "firsts."
The biggest difference between the Texas and Nevada as built is the Texas had 5 twin 14 inch gun turrets (one amidships) where the Nevada had two triple gun and two twin gun 14 inch turrets for a total of 10 main guns on each ship. The follow on Pennsylvania class had four triple gun 14 inch turrets for a total of 12 guns. All originally had 5 inch secondary guns in casements.
My grandfather was. The ships surgeon on AZ until Nov. 41 when he was tx. To pedal navel hsp. He was on the fantail of as waiting for his golf pard. When all hell broke loses.he was found spotting in the water with a wond to his. Upper body that somehow kept. him alive. I only knew him as bed ridden.
She was a revolutionary ship that change American battleship design. First American ship with all of nothing armor scheme, super firing turrets, first standard battleship, triple gun turrets, and oil fueled steam turbines.
They shouldn't have used USS Nevada as target practice, her long and valiant service in multiple campaigns should have earned her a place next to the USS Missouri and the USS Texas as a museum ship. 😢
There have been several publications about the attack on Pearl Harbor by the Japanese that not only recounts the story of the attack but also of the huge effort to salvage the fleet of ships sunk in the harbor. East Wind Rain has many photos of the salvage work especially of the Nevada and all the battleships except for Arizona and Utah. Another good book to read about the salvage work is by one of the salvage divers who worked on many of the ships at Pearl Harbor. Called "Descent Into Darkness" the author describes entering flooded compartments that you had to feel around by hand because the oil and murkiness of the water made it impossible to see anything. Many times the compartments had bodies floating above their heads which the divers had to get use to. Those two books are a great pair to read about the U.S. resurrecting the fleet that was thought by the Japanese and even many Americans to be completely destroyed.
Excellent video. As a minor point, it is not unusual to have a large part of the officer contingent off the ship at night. In port is a regular work day and everyone has their "Duty Day".
Excellent documentary and thank you for pronouncing Nevada correctly! I wonder how many other ships were saved on Dec 7 due to the Japanese concentrating fire on Nevada. Brilliant move by the OIC to ground her to allow salvage rather than trying for the open sea and risk blocking the channel if sunk.
Although it was sad end for nevada after such distinguished service. I think personally there's something more pleasing they still exist , all be it at the bottom of the ocean rather than being scrapped and disappearing completely.
Operation Neptune was also charged with ship to shore engagements in Calais as a deceptive pre attack, making sure the Germans remain convinced and assured of their force placements before and during the actual assult on Normandie.
I would disagree in your characterization. While the ship had long as a stinger service. It was one of many that did so. It was Surplus to requirements.
I think you misunderstand the point, she served so long, and refused to sink in her engagements, she was a morale boost of a ship, having her as a museum ship today would be splendid, yet they decided to use her for target practice, and he doesn't mention, she was shot at for days by the Navy and Iowa, and refused to sink, until those torpedoes sent her under.
@@UFOtter all of the Pearl Harbor Survivors could make a case in that regard. They just really wasn't a demand at the time for such museums and memorials. And as we've seen with the Battleship Texas. These things are very expensive to maintain.
The fact all of the US Navy's modern (interwar) battleship were largely of the same class (the Standard type), led to the ease of upgrades once the war started. They were all very useful second line of 10 battleships.
The enlisted men have always been the greatest, but I often wondered why a military would be at a stand down status instead of full alert at all times.
My dad joined the Navy in April 1917 and first served on the USS Nevada from 5/31/17 to 1/7/18, then went to the USS Minneapolis from 4/4/18 to 11/11/18. He was in the Navy all his life and retired in the early 1960's.
My father, Harry Lloyd Holten, Petty Officer 1st Class, was a machinest working in the engine room as a part of the crew that got the Nevada underway and beached at hospital point. Even though he was assigned to at least 3 other warships, including the USS Kahlula and Sub chaser SC-1354, for the rest of his life the USS Nevada was his beloved Ship
Honestly the USS Nevada has become my favorite ship since The Fat Electrician did a video on her 2 years ago, I love finding more information about her, I’m hoping to some day unlock her in the game WoWL & WarThunder. Whilst she might not be as popular as the other preserved battleships, she will remain in my heart as my favorite
