Why Ant-Man: Quantumania FAILED...But it's Actually GREAT 

Like most Marvel and DC Films, It was fun. People take the movies way too seriously. Just watch the movie and have a good time! Not everything has to be Dark Knight or Winter Soldier.

I feel like when Kang was wondering who scott was he didn't realize it was ant man but as soon as he sees Hank, Kang looks as if he knows exactly who Hank is

Another full circle moment that Quantumania brings to the trilogy is the inclusion of Kang being the main antagonist in the first place. Kang says to Scott that he's "Just a man." then Cassie reiterates in her speech that Kang's "not invincible" that's important because in the first Ant-Man film Hank says, " In the right hands the relationship between man and suit is symbiotic; the suit has the power the man harnesses that power." Both Scott and Kang are just men with suits that have incredible power. But Scott defeats Kang by harnessing the strength of man and not his suit. It's a small detail, but it goes a long way.

everyone hates this version of modok is pretending that the comic version is some serious character with depth. He is portrayed as a joke in comics AND tv…

Hot Take: I don't actually HATE Quantumania. It's not a film I'll be watching again anytime soon, but I don't hate it as much as everyone else.

Thank you. I always liked it. And especially the Type II civilization ants. Antman didn't defeat Kang by himself. He had a LOT of HELP.

I never hated this movie. Even the ant scene I actually liked. Makes sense given how strong ants are. And it’s only a temporary defeat.

I honestly loved this movie. The message to me was it was taking the smallest avenger and proving why he deserves to be an Avenger. Showing how for all of Scott’s life everyone underestimated him or expected him to fail, but here he is taking on an avengers level threat with his family by his side. I loved that message and I walked in without expecting Scott to die at the hands of kang. I don’t think the movie was bad. I think people were glued to their expectations and bashed this movie when their expectations weren’t met.

I love the ants arc in these three movies!!! The first one they're basically slaves, the second, one gets big and becomes part of the family and helps Scott not get caught by Jimmy woo, then in the 3rd one all these interactions and their new head gear their intellect gets higher, then they go through thousands of years of evolution create a civilisation and all work together to help the ant family. It's actually really emosh if you think about it, inspite of the time they've been creating their civilisation as soon as they could went to help save the antfam, they still remembered or had past down the knowledge of their human family that got them there and still had that connection to hank, also they're all huge intelligent armoured and able to lift 100x times their own weight and there's thousands so...kang who in my opinion 🐜

I came out of the theatre having really enjoyed this movie and hyped for what was to come from marvel, and then I went on the internet and was confused

Them managing to sneak Darren back in as MODOK was really clever way to have MODOK in the MCU.

The scene of the one building embracing the other as it died in its arms made me shed a tear. Like, there was that good action-comedy into a tradegy gut punch that works well as a combo.

Honestly, I didn't hate it. It was like a 6 or 7 out of 10 for me. Wasn't amazing but I liked the concepts and the character development. It was just a perfect example of how overworked VFX artists and writers were and explains why they struck and why Marvel's VFX department unionized.

Ryan, you BETTER make a video like this for Eternals too! It deserves it more than any Marvel Movie.

If it requires this much explanation, they missed the mark Love your explanations. Love the morals and themes. And they just didn’t deliver a quality, understandable movie that has great impact. Execution did not match intentions

Wait why did people "hate" it? It was a good fun movie like all AntMan movies are

Its hated because social media and video sites like youtube have taught people to think that their opinions are worth hearing, and lets be honest, it is way more popular these days to spread negativity...

One of the reasons I like Quantuamnia so much is because I called Darren Cross becoming MODOK and being the secondary antagonist in the film. I also had to be one of 10 people on Earth that knew Ant-Man wasn't going to die in it. I knew there was no way Marvel was going to kill the MVP of the Infinity Saga in his third film outing, they pulled the same trick with Iron Man's burning broken helmet in the trailers for Iron Man 3.

I appreciate you for trying your best to keep everyone invested in the MCU but idk …..

I just want to know how much time passed before they all got out because at the end of the movie the ant man with the heart and everyone looking at him like he’s a ghost makes me think everyone thought he was dead

Finally climax shot Scott thinking he pushed everyone into problem and then welcome back in background!!

I actually really liked this movie when I saw it in theaters. I went into it worried that the heist films, that were some of my favorites in the MCU, would be out of their depth. I was actually surprised that even though the surrounding were other worldly it still felt like an Ant Man film with all the heart and humor that I love. Totally underrated

😂😂😂 This video proves just how easy it is to deconstruct and philosophise about any crappy thing! It's as funny as it is irritating. Do "The Room" next! 😂😂😂

They should’ve had kang look stronger in the end fight, and yes I get it the ants were super evolved very fast hence why they beat him. Still doesn’t sit right with me how they just killed him off. He got sucked into the engine core (which should’ve led to a future story down the line) maybe he becomes the beyonder or somehow is able to exit the core which would’ve gave him even more power. The writing was an all time low it really killed the movie in the end imo

Kang stood in front of 3 of his biggest opposers at the time for maybe 30 seconds and waited for their ant army to approach him. A minute before his enemies stood in front of him, he was evaporating rebels with his weapons. I suppose he forgot he had those lasers???? Writers forced a loss.

Thank you for finally pointing this out, I've been saying for years that the phase 4 films weren't all as bad as people are saying they've just haven't been able to live up to the amount of sheer hype around them. If quantimania had handled Kang the same way Thanos was handled in the the pre infinty war mcu, at least half the criticism would be gone. Hell even if nothing in the film changed, other than people going into the movie having no expectation, the response would have been way better.

I actually really enjoyed this movie. The CGI is iffy in places certainly, but the visuals, the imagination behind them and all the points you make in favor of the film rang true with me as well.

The ooze they drink to understand each other is none other than Frank, the guy that got shrunk into a blob and flushed down the toilet in ant-man 1 movie, but hey that's just a theory.

You made me want to watch this again with the agenda of just enjoying what the movie is and not what it means to the huge saga. Thank you.

I loved it. I think people dont really get comics, and therefore don't really get comic book movies. Marvel has done a brilliant job making a cinematic representation of what the comics are and have always been. A person isnt going to love every single comic book. Some dont sell and have limited runs, but they are still part of a mosaic. In the cinematic version, we have some movies and shows that don't hit for everyone, and that should be okay.

I love how "Eh don't worry about that Kang guy" is literally going to be the solution to the Kang problem after Majors was fired. "It's fine, Loki took care of him."

Thanks for making this video! I loved Quantumania. It was so visually stunning, and I don't understand why some people think Kang was easy to defeat. And an 82% audience score (as seen in this video) isn't really that bad either. So 82% of the audience enjoyed it.

I love Quantumania, alot, seen it a number of times, and in fact Love Mordok, like how goofy he was, and was supposed to be. In fact, I grew to really enjoying it and I agree, is my favourite Antman movie.

One big failing as an Ant-Man film (besides Wasp having nothing to do) is the loss of connectivity to his own other "little guys", his X-Con crew. Yeah, they had MODOK and I'm ok with how they incorporated that. But to really close the trilogy, the X-Cons also needed to be involved. So thus it has 2 bits of being incomplete and unsatisafying. By "killing" Kang (though we know he's not dead), it kinda put a big halt on the Multiverse saga's big-bad before he even started (and this would be true even without Majors' personal matters), and then it fails to totally satisfy as an Ant-Man film because 2 factors of what made the prior films work were removed (X-Con) or reduced (Hope/Wasp). That said, I do like it a lot, and it was great to share w/ my now 12 year old kid.

13:52. NOT a Varient of Wilson Fisk mind you.

WE NEEDED THIS VIDEO WHILE THE MOVIE WAS IN THEATRES.. I kept arguing this for a year with my friends. No one ever accepts my ant theory.

I loved the movie, agree on the kang take and that Darren should have been the main villain, and the idea of giant genius ants is absolutely horrifying and completely believable to me as to why kang was overpowered by them, great video!!

The "You're so big!" (Said from Scott to Cassie) is a callback to Endgame where Scott sees the older Cassie after the 5 year gap for the first time... that part caught my attention couple nights ago haven't seen anybody mention that one yet.

Hey! @screencrush. I love your vids on the young avengers. Can you please make a video on your thoughts of the movie happening now with the future potential changes with the mcu.

I saw it release night in iMax 3D and loved it. Came out of theatre totally taken aback by the backlash from it.

I loved this movie on opening night, and I've rewatched it 3 or 4 times since it hit Disney+ From the very beginning, I could not understand the hate - other than to just blame the black-pilled internet hate machine.

I used to keep a movie journal like that too!

totally agree, completely underrated! it’s a shame we won’t get another performance of majors as lang for the big screen.

Now that you've brought my attention back to the live action Rick and Morty movie, specifically the sun harnessing. Have you read Marvel comics Exiles, the crystal castle time bug guys?

I agree with so much of the video and appreciate the movie more. However, I still can't get over how inconsistent Kang's powers are. One moment he is levitating around, vaporizing/annihilating people , and can use the force/control gravity. The next he just wants to stay on the ground, knocking people back and hide in a bubble...I get that his powers are only from technology and those ants might have better tech and abilities that can still beat the stronger version of him, but I think they could have done better to show that and stay more consistent.

The only thing missing from Quantumania was Luis. I think the hate came from Marvel advertising, who Kang would become instead of letting him be a new villain that would become a thorn in everyone's side. The mistake wasn't him being defeated by hyper intelligent ants. The mistake was not showing Kang survive it.

Nice try but honestly here's my main problem: the protagonists do not undergo a challenge and then change as a result. Therefore there is no plot just scenes of things

this movie only got bad after Scott got the engine core for Kang. Everything after that felt half baked, also the rebels weren’t established well enough to care about their final battle

The sense of scale was off. One of the things that makes Ant Man movies unique is the size of people and things compared to the normal size of the real world. Several times in the QR it was hard to tell if they were shrunken, normal or giant sized compared to the rest of the environment. They should have done something different with Kang, like maybe have him inside an actual prison inside his base. Like he can use his tech to create and control his empire, but he was physically confined to an enclosed area by his variants using some sort of powerful energy field. So he can't really interact with the environment and personally go out and shoot lasers, but his tech, his army and his minions are able to do the physical heavy lifting for him. That would allow the heroes to find a way to defeat him without having to face him as a true big bad. Instead, they'd just sort of thwart his goals and overthrow his empire in the QR. The end however, should foreshadow that by defeating him, they overlooked something and actually gave Kang a way to escape the QR. That would set up the future slate of events and pay off that gut feeling Scott has at the end where he's questioning whether they actually won.

I don't hate this movie, in fact, I enjoyed this movie, very much! I even bought the book, "Watch Out for the Little Guy" because I thought it was an amazing concept. I believe this film was pushed to the back burner and got burnt. So much potential, like you said. I thought Ant-Man was going to die, just like I thought Hawkeye was going to lose his arm in the Disney+ show. But we're talking about perception, and expectations. One day, Marvel will return to it's great story telling time again, and I will be there, Watching!!

I really liked the movie when I saw it, and was surprised when people started turning against it. I didn't notice anything wrong with the VFX (real life isn't always colorful-- visible light wouldn't be perceptible on a subatomic scale... Neptune isn't really that blue...electron microscope photography shows how weird everything looks on a microscopic level...) I appreciate how you pointed out the thematic unity and hopeful message. It's always welcome in this dumpster fire of a world. No, it's not perfect, but the characters (even MODOK!) were enjoyable, the idea of Kang gets across, and I had a great time. And now, I appreciate it even more. Thank you!

The thing that bugged (ha) me the most about the ant criticisms is, don't we want to see superheroes win by using their unique powers? Shouldn't ANT man win the day because he got help from ants? That's part of the fun of all this, innit?

I honestly didn’t mind the super smart sentient ants at the end, I just wish we would’ve got a good chunk more of them so we could understand them and their motives and what happened to them over the millennia. Would’ve been a lot more believable and just just a random ex machine like we got

I felt that Antman was close to embracing those themes, but Scott did remains the same as ending montage shows he didnt learn Cassie's lesson that he needed to be more proactive as an Avenger rather than protecting the status quo (ie Kang and his timeline). Sacrificing himself wouldve been that arc. What was bad about the movie was its CGI action, abundance of side characters, lack of Wasp, reluctance to show Kang until the midpoint, and the underwhelming ending of Wasp defeating him despite zero character arc in the movie (she kills her mother's lover-- what if Wasp was struggling with a similar conflict to her mother regarding her love for Scott).

I never agree either any of the opinions on this channel but I still love it. That being said, I disagree. I think it was fine. Not great or memorable. But it wasn’t the disaster others said it was. I enjoyed it for what it was.

I think they should have moved Quantumania to May 2023 and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 3 to October 2023 while The Marvels to April 2024 and since Deadpool 3 is in July 2024 then we have two movies this year too!

I watched it in theaters and it definitely didn’t deserve all the negative publicity it was getting!

I haven't even seen your vid yet SC, but I already love it 😂 Anyone can find flaws in film... it takes little brains and less effort... BUT taking something that struggles and revealing its value and depth... that's creativity (and positivity). I love what you do here on your channel SC and can't wait to watch this vid!

When I talk about this movie with friends and they cite "bad CGI" as a reason for it being bad, they almost always bring up Modok. But nothing to do with the actual CGI, but the design of Modok. Also most of those people haven't seen what Modok looks like in the comics.

Loved this movie, and really wanted to see what Kang could do to the MCU and really wanted to see him pop up and battle several Avengers one on one before Kang Dynasty (lost opportunity here). .....I did miss Luis and Kurt in Qunatumania

The script talked down to me. I felt brain cells dying with every bad joke and bad story telling with Pfeifer.

@ 23:55 "the Wasp" in the title is the OG Wasp - Janet. It's more Hank & Janet's story, b/c Hank helped Cassie build the tech. Not Scott.

You're right. The idea of giant insects suffers from the reality of the square-cube rule. You square the size/volume, you cube the mass/weight. Glad you called that out.

My take is that the MCU never wanted Kang THE CONQUEROR to be the main baddie of the Saga. They want(ed?) The Council of KangS to be the antagonist of this Phases.

No lie, I loved this movie!! When I took my son to watch it at the movies, I watched it through without ever going to the bathroom and I've seen it three time on Disney.

Thanks for the video. But the movie trips over it’s own feet too many times to ignore the mistakes

I honnestly like this Ant Man Movie, and I think it really doesn't deserve all that backlash, except the complains about CGI being rushed. That said, I think Quantumania lacks the scale effects we had in previous appearances of Ant Man in the MCU, especially in the first movie : What I liked about Ant Man was the sense of scale, with some scenes that had that miniature effect. And I think it's a shame that they went away from these shot ideas...

You're half right. It was hated but it was not great.

I might be the only person that just accepts Marvel shows/movies for what they are and find enjoyment in all of them, i mean except of eternals which i still havent watched yet. Like i absolutely loved She-Hulk, it was really funny meta and subversive. I love the totally new style and tone, its the exact type of episodic show that Marvel lacks, the casual viewer would be able to get into much easier. the CGI looks fine, like she looks like a female hulk, yes people who are green dont look normal, and if you teied painting and actor you wouldnt get the subsurface scatter that cg skin is able to reproduce, ot would look cheap with someone painted. If Secret wars was as it was and wasnt considered "Marvel" it would have been a massive hit for literally any TV or streaming network, the acting and production were pretty top notch. Try findig the good in things and a lot more shows will be good to you

People let the guardians get away with not dying in the 3rd movie so why is it a problem that Scott or his family didn’t die? Oh because the internet cherry-picks everything about the mcu

Guardians did explain the translation issue in a throwaway visual detail where it’s shown during their arrest, the list of details about them has translator implants in some of them.

It looked amazing, I am mostly hoping they use the tech for more interesting star wars aliens

Personally I love this film!

I don't care what anyone says. I love this movie and will always find the post credit Council of Kang scene as iconic. For Pete's sake, Marvel, just recast. I want Kang to keep going after Kingpin's street level storyline is over. Because im pretty sure the story's pivoting to Kingpin to give them more time to recast Kang.

I personally loved this movie. I don't see why it gets all the hate. I think majors did a GREAT job as kang. Maybe would have done better as an actual kang movie,which u can kinda argue thats wat it is already jus wit the ant man title. Bht I didn't have many problems with the film at all

I think in 20 years we may see the same thing happen to the MCU as happened to the Star Wars prequels. There'll be a grand nostalgia wave, maybe a few remakes or upgrades to whatever the latest tech of the day is. Ultimately I think they'll be remembered fondly.

I loved this movie! WTF do they want? The characters to leap out of comic books and bite their @zzes? They are CHARACTERS and fluid. It's nice to have them look and behave exactly like in the books...but most of it doesn't translate well into a movie. Ex. Nick Fury...I would never have guessed Samuel L Jackson to play such a part...but it worked for me. Enjoy the ride or make your own movie.

spare me man...

The thing abt the cgi is that it’s good where it needs to be. The visuals of the entire quantum realm are incredible, and I think that’s what matters most.

The scenes with JM and MP were the best. They had great energy together

How much is Disney paying you to shill for this movie?

Just stop already lmao. We all know you just want to stay on Marvel’s good side so you can keep getting early screenings. Embarrassing.

I LOVE this video. Thank you so much for celebrating the awesome parts of a movie that people have made a game of ganging up on. You’ve given a redemption arc to the incredibly hard work of hundreds of talented people. Huge props, you guys.

A lot of people complained about Kang being beaten by "ant-man", while the entire point of the movie was to not underestimate him and that is the main reason Kang lost. That is very true that Kang is much more powerful than antman, but underestimating him is the biggest mistake an enemy can make, he is an Avenger too after all.

What did you think of Quantumania?

... No, it's not great lol. Like, at all.

Given different circumstances i think all the phase 5 movies could have been reffined

I love you always see the good things that make a movie. Was it great no not at all but there was so much never before seen things that it kept my eyes movie just to make sure I didn’t miss anything. Thanks for making this. You all do wonderful work.

Really scraping the bottom of the barrel for content, huh? This will be a long year for channels like this.

This guy really defends marvel so damm much its actually funny. Like spams videos out on why the mcu isn't dead when it is and that superheroes aren't a genre when it is so how can can it be superheroe fatigue like this guy😂

I could never figure out why there was so much hate for this movie. I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. I totally agree it was great. It had a very good villain. It had a great story and the end fight was terrific. Well acted and well directed. Just a good fun Marvel movie.

Bill Murray is the direct reason why a lot of your favorite movies did not get sequels. If those sequels would have been good or not, who knows now. It is his fault we didnt get more OG Ghostbusters, even though Harold Ramis wanted to do more. Lastly, I am generally always underwhelmed with Murray's performances, including in Ant-man (even though I like the movie itself)

Nope!

For me, it was... somewhat boring. I didn't think any of the had to die, but I can understand that any of the staying behind would have been way better than what we ended up having. The ants scene was awesome and I liked it (not that I overthought it so much as you did). :)

I think the problem with ant man 3 is a death by a million paper cuts type situation. Cgi for example usually goes unnoticed except for when it's bad. There were a lot of instances where you instinctively go "that didn't look quite right" which isn't offset by equally amazing shots. The plot also had a lot of moments where it was like "i would have done something differently there". I thought it was an ok but overall frustrating movie, kind of like a lot of recent marvel projects, where there was potential that was squandered for one reason or another.

This movie was ridiculously slept on. Sure, some of the CGI was poor. The majority of that CGI was on screen for a second or less; I never noticed it until I saw a video of it slowed down. Like, we’re so insanely spoiled when it comes to visuals that it’s sad. Darren as MODOK was amazing and I loved it. Kang getting beat by a class II civilization of ants that were ALL smarter, more intelligent and much stronger than Kang is NOT something that should surprise us. Then Scott beating a severely powered down version of Kang (he’s literally just a man at that point) is also not surprising. Seriously, this movie is great.

This movie gave me bad flashbacks to the final season of Lost. Hey, we have to stop the Man in Black -- a villain we know practically nothing about -- from leaving the island, because if he does, it will destroy the world. But WHY will it destroy the world, you ask? Well... it just will, I guess? And in this movie, we have to stop Kang -- a villain we know practically nothing about -- from leaving the Quantum Realm, because it will destroy the world. But WHY will it destroy the world, you ask? Well... it just will, I guess? Why is it so difficult to just write a villain with clear motivations, and to give the audience a clear sense of the consequences if the villain achieves his or her goals? We're not making experimental art-house cinema here, it's just a superhero movie meant for all audiences.

I didn't think it was great, but it was pretty good. Now I'd like to hear your praise of Multiverse of Madness. That movie gets too much hate. Watched it twice and I love it.

I love this friggin channel! Always making me see things differently

Scott is enjoying his celebrity life but Falcon was scrambling for money. 😢