Why Apple allowed Official Macintosh Clones in the '90s - Retro Tech History

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What is an Apple Mac? From the Apple Mac pro to the Mac Mini to the Mac Air these are easily identifiable devices in the modern day but this wasn't always so. Today we discover why Apple allowed Officially Licensed Macintosh clones in the '90s? We're going to look at some examples from my collection and we'll explore the history behind the decisions made by Apple at the time, and why the idea came crashing to an end.
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@RMCRetro 3 года назад

It's good to be back, happy new year to you all! Did you own a Macintosh clone? I'd love to hear your stories. Also be sure to check out Steve's channel for lots of Apple goodies: ru-vid.com - He'll be exploring the history of clones on his own channel later today. Neil - RMC

@amras94 3 года назад

Good to have you back, I missed my retro tech

@ttrjw 3 года назад

Have you moved yet?

@Mac84 3 года назад

Thanks Neil! Excellent video, I was so glad to contribute to this. Good luck with getting all your clones up and running! FYI - Part 1 in my clone series is out now: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-PMXKy5vrMJM.html

@darthnagus5457 3 года назад

Welcome back

@BertGrink 3 года назад

Hi Neil, welcome to 2021; it's good to have you back. I hope you have settled in in your new den. 😄

@hardlyworgen71 3 года назад

When Steve showed that tower, I immediately came up with the perfect name for him to give it: Mackard Bell

@mikeyandwho 3 года назад

Was I the only one expecting Neil start doing sign language the corner 😂

@LevitatingCups 3 года назад

I was expeting him to tell more of the weather.

@frazzleface753 3 года назад

Tiny Neil in the corner!

@narkeddiver7325 3 года назад

@@frazzleface753 nobody puts Neil in the corner ;)

@DeadReckon 3 года назад

"A demented ghetto blaster" Reminds me of those odd Compaq PC's they built in the late 90's with the built in speakers and usually Windows ME installed

@PixelmechanicYYZ 3 года назад

The stone walls behind the crates just gives the cave that extra class :)

@dross1705 3 года назад

Fancy!

@cubby170279 3 года назад

Looks like you have stepped up the production value since moving to the new mega cave. Nice slow panning shots and I'm loving the small overlaid Retro man.

@ando8262 3 года назад

omg that “uh-oh” I haven’t heard that in two decades

@digiowl9599 3 года назад

I miss those times. Javascript was a mistake.

@NeverlandSystemZor 3 года назад

@@digiowl9599 For what it was meant for it, not really... pushing it into a "do anything & everything, anywhere & everywhere, all the time" thing was a HUGE mistake.

@therealfodder 3 года назад

Same here! Anyone remember what it was from? I'm thinking it was an FTP client but I'm hazing over that a bit.

@therealfodder 3 года назад

Never mind - icq apparently. I'm getting it confused with the 'Oh no!' sample

@steeviebops 3 года назад

@@therealfodder It was ICQ but I think WS_FTP also used it as an error sound.

@thomascharnock 3 года назад

Never thought I'd be describing a video about Mac clones as 'absolutley badass' but here we are. Amazing job.

@davidsmall6322 3 года назад

The Ponytail at 2:32 is incredible.

@JosiahGould 3 года назад

That's no ponytail, that's a glorious, GLORIOUS mullet! Paired with that jacket, it is the perfect "Business in front, party in back" image.

@SomePotato 3 года назад

To be fair, when Windows 3 came out, Apple's System 6 didn't really have a better reputation for stability. ;)

@werpu12 Год назад

Both Windows and Apples MacOS were terrible at stability. The lack of memory protection in applications really showed. I never used the pre X MacOSes but when I finally toyed around with them, I was frankly quite amazed how terrible they were, given that they were alyways praised by the Mac crows back them as being so superior to windows. Not that windows was any good, but hey standards were low back then.

@NozomuYume 3 года назад

Now I have a burning desire to know about "cutie".

@mikebailey783 3 года назад

The textured backdrop created by the stone wall behind the set is just great! - The coloured lighting picks it out beautifully.

@RMCRetro 3 года назад

Thanks Mike I really enjoy it too. Today I've been building a new wall from an old factory floor and I think it looks great, this will be the new Lab backdrop. Can't wait to share it

@JapanPop 3 года назад

Hey nice to see a collab with one of my favorite channels, Mac84!

@JeromeChan 3 года назад

There was also BeOS that could run on PowerPC macs.

@espressomatic 3 года назад

There was talk of an acquisition by Apple around 1996, which never panned out. I don't know when the talks started with Jobs, but the writing was likely on the wall.

@IanBetteridge 10 месяцев назад

@@espressomatic Talks all happened around the same time, and there were two options initially: BeOS, which already ran on PowerPC but could also run on Intel, and a Microsoft offer of what amounted to the Mac interface running on top of the Windows NT kernel. Someone at Apple who was still in touch with Jobs connected him with Ellen Hancock, then-CTO of Apple, and so NeXT became an option. Be basically got ruled out because Jean Louis Gassee wanted $100m, and Apple would only pay $80m - and of course, Jobs managed to get $400m out of them.

@Big_Tex 3 года назад

When I moved to Round Rock, Texas in 1999, POWER COMPUTING’S headquarters building still sat there with their name on it, but abandoned by that time.

@xnonsuchx 3 года назад

I did tech support for the Radius brand PowerMac clones and got to help Jerry Harrison of Talking Heads with his. I think I shipped him a new SCSI HDD under warranty.

@bigjaffa02 3 года назад

Why is Penn Gillette opening that computer? He could just use his magic to disassemble it.

@dglcomputers1498 3 года назад

Wasn't the main issue with the Apple clones being that they were generally better than Apples offering whilst being cheaper, quite important for the power users.

@blunderingfool 3 года назад

Ding.

@darkalligator 3 года назад

Still the same situation, overpriced with less powerful hardware than Hackintosh

@xmlthegreat 3 года назад

Yup lol. Apple couldn't rip people off anymore so they ended the program.

@TheSulross 3 года назад

If a company intends to remain in the hardware business, then it's not really reasonable to license the crown jewels software to direct competitors

@DanaTheInsane 3 года назад

Not better. The Frankins were terrible. But nonetheless it was killing them. Steve killed that fast.

@MK-of7qw 3 года назад

I had the pleasure of working on a mac clone back in the day for a user. That monster speaker box in the front of that Pioneer is amazing!

@botty1981 3 года назад

Great to have you back! Brilliant return video....and the new caves debut.

@Johanniscool 3 года назад

“We’re not comparing Apples to Apples”.... *crickets*

@markgoldspink5109 3 года назад

He did look genuinely sorry.

@TheSulross 3 года назад

Needs to do like the pros do and add a laugh track for those punchy nuggets

@Toreonify 3 года назад

5 years ago I thought I got StarMax for cheap, but inside it was an Intel motherboard with 200 MHz Pentium MMX and 128 Mb of RAM. To make it more appealing to use, I've installed NeXTSTEP on it :D

@dexxeve9420 3 года назад

Prob the most professional setup I have seen on youtube, its like high-level TV quality, and the lighting is so well set up. Makes popular RU-vidrs look amateur

@RMCRetro 3 года назад

That's very kind thank you! There's lots more to come :D

@jasedobson2793 3 года назад

Yay welcome back Neil.looking forward to more from RMC in the new cave :-)

@RetroRecipes 3 года назад

Nice to see you settling cosily into the new cave! 👍🕹️

@SSteelification 3 года назад

i just love the start menu on the motorola clone, totally ripping off the thing they meant to destroy.

@mailtompowell 3 года назад

Wonderful feelings of nostalgia. I really wanted one of these back in the day! It also made me recall the BeBox from that era, a rare piece of mid-90’s awesomeness that I’d love to see your channel cover sometime.

@MainAvel 3 года назад

Why Apple no longer allows Macintosh clones: everyone else was doing Apple's job better than Apple.

@scott1564 3 месяца назад

To some extent, I agree. When OSX came out, had clones still been around, Apple could have upped their market share relative to MS to nearly 50%.

@tumest 3 года назад

Watching the evolution and choices in your presentation style and production has been really really nice over the years. Here's to another year of great videos!

@AnimalFacts 3 года назад

No jokes here... but perhaps include a "hair light" on your green screen scenes to help pop you off from the background.

@goeland4585 3 года назад

I don't know, the weatherman look suits him :p

@override7486 3 года назад

And what difference it would make? Guy is bald like.... any bald guy is. Hitman level, well... almost.

@charliebrown1006 3 года назад

Love how you had to say no joke. 😂 A rim light(aka hair light) or even a reflector would do wonders though

@10p6 3 года назад

Spectra on the Atari ST was awesome back in the day. Being able to run Mac software on a faster machine, with larger screen, for a fraction of the price was the real start of Hackintosh, or Jackintosh as some referred to it.

@CrazyTechReviews 3 года назад

Very nice vid! Cool to see my buddy Steve in there as well!

@namakudamono 3 года назад

Lovely to have you back, Neil!

@MorganJustGames 3 года назад

Great Video Neil. The Cave is looking great too, some quality items on that background behind you. Nice addition with the Webcam and Green Screen now, very good indeed. Hope your well.

@Flashy7 3 года назад

in the first half of the video I could not concentrate on your storytelling because of the gorgeous hairstyles and glasses and clothes in the old clips :D

@MrPeteykins 3 года назад

I remember this era so well. I had a Mac Performa 6300, and my friend bought a clone, I think maybe a Umax, and it was no end of trouble.

@MichaelRusso 3 года назад

I have a clone and like the fact that it is so compatible with PC devices, like a vga monitor.

@shelby3822 3 года назад

Here's the breadth of my experience with the Apple ecosystem...some time like 15ish years ago iTunes began to require Quicktime and I said sod it - I'm out!

@HeadsetGuy 3 года назад

Wow, that M-Power that Steve showed off looked surprisingly like a Packard Bell, especially the power button... I wonder if the same company that designed the cases for Packard Bell, Frog, also designed the cases for APS?

@Mac84 3 года назад

I wouldn't put it past them. I believe a lot of UMAX clones used similar, or the same, cases from Dell machines. It was just another way to keep the cost down.

@8BitRetroJournal 3 года назад

Nice to have you back...hard to tell you are in a new studio so nicely transitioned. I also liked your "Paul Harvey" moment of "the rest of the story" :-/ BTW, I think it's "coup" not "queue" when pronouncing Apple's home.

@lordhostile 3 года назад

I miss my G3 upgraded Power Computing Clone. The chassis on those were basically an intel clone chassis and ATX PSU. In fact I used that machine in an Antec chassis for some years before I got my G4 and later G5 towers. Great video! Cheers from Las Vegas!

@goclunker 3 года назад

All G3s and G4’s are pretty close to standard ATX, just have to rearrange a few pins and join a few others. My dual G4s ran on ATX 800W supplies when the original 250W crapped out. Best mod I’ve ever done

@steveskipper6473 3 года назад

Just noticed that during the iconic Macintosh commercial @4:28 there is a bloke that closely resembles a shocked Steve Balmer. Coincidence?

@bigjnsa 3 года назад

Nice, I like the new format for this video. Thanks!

@RayBrooks0 3 года назад

Welcome back, Cave Dweller! What a great way to kick off 2021 ☺️

@TheRetroShack 3 года назад

Just about to do a full refurb series on an LC475 so this was very interesting! Great video again!

@stevew8513 3 года назад

My first two Macs were, in fact, clones. A Power Computing 100 was first, it was around $1799 which was far cheaper than the cheapest Macintosh model. I bought a UMAX C-500 240mhz model as a floor model at one of the few electronics chains that carried Macs, it only cost me $500. The next week Apple announced the original iMac. My UMAX C-500 was a bit tricky... I had a Voodoo 1 card that I wanted to replace, so I bought an ATI Rage 128 card for $200, got it home and installed it, and any time something graphically complex came on screen (I believe the game I was playing was Tomb Raider III) the computer would freeze up solid. Turns out the C-500 was using a modified Power Mac 7200 motherboard, which had a PCI 1.0 card slot, rather than the PCI 1.1 slots that became standard after that model. And the ATI card couldn't handle it. So I returned it, and bought a PC Voodoo 3 card and flashed the ROM to make it Mac compatible. Since the Voodoo 3 didn't officially get made for the Mac not much software took advantage of it, and the heat it generated used to keep my room toasty in the winter. I used to modify and upgrade those machines quite a lot, it was always nice to be able to get inside the case and throw in CD burners and such. I miss those days.

@hhgttm 3 года назад

I have fond memories of the clones. My dad bought his first Mac OS machine in 1996 which was a Computer Warehouse Manhattan clone. CW were an established Apple dealer ran big multi-page adverts in all the UK Mac magazines. They then launched their own clone range named after cities - I remember Paris being another model. The Manhattan tower was pitched as being equivalent PowerMac 8500, but in reality was a PowerMac 4400 in a tower case. One sad thing was that when the machine developed a fault only a few years into its life, the clone era had ended and CW no longer supported the hardware! It was bodge fixed by a local PC repair firm and then promptly gave up entirely just a few months later! My university also had UMAX branded clones in 1999.

@bwgti 3 года назад

Great video. Hope all is well at the new carve.

@nilz23 3 года назад

The new studio looks great

@Spengali1 3 года назад

Really interesting watch and I'd almost forgotten that Mac clones existed even though I lived in the US during those exciting mid-90s days! Also loving the new picture-in-picture Neil feature although it does feel like I should be seeing some sign language when watching him there.

@andreash.2336 3 года назад

Love your channel and your videos. It´s always a pleasure for me to watch them. Yes, the "hackintosh´s" are also a very interesting story to tell.

@TheJeremyHolloway 3 года назад

"The Magic Sac. Turns your Atari into a Mac!" That little cartridge was extremely popular with Atari ST owners back in the day. Apple threatened their own dealers attempting to prevent them from selling MacOS ROM chips to ST owners for their Magic Sacs. But thanks to the Magic Sac, the first Mac laptop was the Atari STacy. God times. Oh, I think you forgot about the Microsoft SoftCard for the Apple II line. It included RAM and a Z80 CPU to run Digital Research's CP/M operating system on the Apple II. It was actually the most popular CP/M configuration back then. That was years before Microsoft started selling mice and other hardware. The other thing to remember about the Mac licensing agreements was that the intent was to increase the size of the Macintosh platform and attract more - and new - users who would normally buy PC compatibles. But apparently it ended up cannibalizing Apple's existing customer base more than it did attracting new customers... or at least that's what Jobs wanted everyone to believe...

@MSmith-Photography 3 года назад

I was a tech support agent back in the late 90s and thought it was wild that there were Mac clones. 🤣

@FrazerSmithsChannel 3 года назад

Strictly speaking it was just the PC bios that was reverse-engineered. The hardware (and software) was all off-the-shelf anyway.

@JETJOOBOY 3 года назад

Shut up...

@nateswanson2443 3 года назад

New set looks amazing, video is very interesting

@scharkalvin 3 года назад

Years ago I worked for Coulter electronics. They were developing a medical system that would run on a network of computers. They looked at PCs running the Power PC processor, which at that time had first been introduced. Motorola sold a computer that looked like a tower PC, with an ATX style motherboard, but had the PowerPC processor. The machine could be configured to run Windows NT (Microsoft briefly did support this processor), MacOS, or Linux. Coulter ran the Windows NT system on it. The cost of the Motorola PowerPC platform in this form factor was higher than a similar Intel based PC clone, so they never went with the PowerPC. They eventually scrapped the few eval units they had bought, and I claimed one of them for my own use in my office. I installed Linux on it, and it ran that quite well.

@mhoppy6639 3 года назад

Great video as per usual. As I said somewhere on here before, you can get much more in-depth information from Walter Isaacson is biography of jobs which covers the clones issue extensively. I can wholeheartedly recommend it. Nails done a great job with the fundamentals of this. Thank you RMC

@RetrogradeScene 3 года назад

Great episode! So many changes of tune on the clone front. Especially considering the lawsuit around the Franklin Apple II clones.

@rigues 3 года назад

WOW! Action GoMac! I had that on my iMac G3 back in the OS 8 days. Loved to use Kaleidoscope too, to theme the UI.

@offrails 3 года назад

The ARM transition means that I can now run Mac OS on an Archimedes, right?

@davidlewis1787 3 года назад

You are bloody dapper and delightfully pleasing on the eye

@kins749 3 года назад

Love to see that Pioneer working and pumping up the volume!

@MrTibbs90 3 года назад

I loved watching this. It was really a good review of the Apple Clone history. You should do a video on the history of OS/x.

@RobA500 3 года назад

Great and very interesting video. I like the format with a bit of history then show the machines and rap it up with the conclusion. You seem to have settled in to the new cave well, I trust that the Atari ST cupboard hasn't been filled up yet😉.

@cheaterman49 3 года назад

6:15 Hahahaha, I wasn't gonna mention it, but I was thinking exactly the same about MSX :-) glad you did mention it!

@MrDuncl 3 года назад

Not quite the same. Microsoft specified the hardware, but never released their own machine. When I think of Microsoft hardware back then my first thought was mice. Before every PC came with one they were one of the largest manufacturers.

@RobertRitter 3 года назад

I love what the new space is allowing you to do with your production. Top drawer!

@stevencarlson5422 3 года назад

i must see the restore vid on that pioneer one and be interesting to see how well it sounds too

@hotrod3161 3 года назад

good video neil ! hey look at steve on the RMC ! steve does live streams that are always a treat !

@EsotericArctos 3 года назад

I can understand why it was not favourable financially for licensed clones. Sometimes keeping everything in house can be better. Thanks for the memories. I do remember having an apple clone back in the day.

@trevorboys9140 3 года назад

Great video and really thought provoking. I remember thinking at the time Apple just needed to license their OS, I'd never thought that Apple is fundamentally a hardware company.

@owenrichards1418 3 года назад

I loved these things. I was a confirmed Mac user from the graphics fields and I wanted to build my own clone mac from parts the way I could build a PC. When Apple killed off the clones, I decided regretfully to go over to 'the dark side." Congrats on the new cave! This video does look and sound more polished than before.

@pronstorestiffi 3 года назад

Great video Niel.

@ArtoPekkanen 3 года назад

I have a Power Computing / Power Center 240. It is a Mac clone that looks like an old midi tower PC. These were produced between 1995-1997. These days they are extremely rare, since most of them were thrown away.

@dragonmac1234 3 года назад

It's good to see you back Neil. I hope the office move went smoothly, I assume it did as you've started making videos again :-)

@SMAAAASHTV 3 года назад

I had a Power Computing PowerBase 240 when I was younger and later had a Power Tower 275 for a short time.

@MrGoatflakes 3 года назад

I remember some of these things being absolute beasts. One was a quad core stupidly fast deal with an insane amount of memory.

@londongaz2 3 года назад

I was just thinking, I wonder when Neil will be back!

@UncleAwesomeRetro 3 года назад

I didn't click on this video right away, because I only had bad experiences with Macintosh computers from when I was a kid to when I used them in my 20's in school doing video editing. Even now as an IT support guy I have bad experiences with mac. Despite all this, I found the video to be very entertaining and you did an excellent job here :) The story was nicely paced and you told it well.

@RMCRetro 3 года назад

Thank you I'm glad you enjoyed it

@fsfs555 3 года назад

Your MPC-LX200 is basically a 100MHz variant of the Mac 62/63xx series in a nicer case with an excellent integrated sound system. You can probably resurrect it by recapping the power supply (a custom Matsushita unit). You'll also want to replace the cone support rubber on the subwoofer because it's likely completely disintegrated by now.

@scottishcomedian1769 3 года назад

Love the new green screen, Neil. Just learn sign language and you'll be golden. Lol

@timothy2830 3 года назад

My school had a few classrooms full of Mac clones (late 90's) similar to those UMax ones. They were used for typing classes and the entire school was sharing a T1 connection, so we also used them to search for pictures... us kids in the back of the room finding there were no restrictions, and would look up naughty stuff, lol

@leesmithsworkshop 3 года назад

It's always interesting to learn about computers and systems I never used back in the day. I had a couple of Macintosh SE systems on maintenance contracts and never understood why my boss did this, none of use had any idea how they worked and we kept no spare parts for them. He must have charged a small fortune to make it worth while as I remember visiting them quite often.

@MrDuncl 3 года назад

At work the managers all had Macs to demonstrate their management superiority by being able to eject their floppies using their mouse while us engineers had to slum in with HP PCs.

@MikePlemmons 3 года назад

Had a job at University in the mid 90s where one of the computer labs had a PowerComputing clone. Had a double take because I did not know Apple was allowing clones at the time.

3 года назад

I just got a PPC Mac! Dont make me want more PPC! Im out of storage space XD Good video, nice editing! I like the new cave! Its nice with more Mac stuff, theirs SO much software for OS 8-9 its like a howl new world to explore. Going on a retro mini Lan tomorrow with a Mac G4 myself so I'm totally hyped now :P

@mikeuk666 3 года назад

new cave is looking great

@lactobacillusprime 3 года назад

Loved this overview! And ooooh that Pioneer Powermac - wow! Sadly the licensed Apple Mac clone-period happened smack in the middle of bad cap-era but there's always hope that the clone systems were built to withstand the test of time a little better than the original apple 68K and early powerPC macs. A lot of my original machines have severely failed due to caps and batteries over the years.

@marklechman2225 2 года назад

The first computer my folks ever bought was a used Apple II+ in 1983. Then next one was a Motorola Starmax in ‘96 or ‘97. Can’t recall the model but it had a 603 running at 130 MHz. I loved it, but it was not quite up to the task of running some of the newer games I wanted to play at the time. So I convinced my folks to upgrade to a PowerBase 240 (and it included a modem!) a year or so later. For my folks, the Starmax was more than powerful enough to do their household tasks, so I got to load up the PowerBase with tons of games, and it became my main machine for many years afterwards. It was pretty badass.

@UnixGoldBoy 3 года назад

I am not sure how I am already subscribed to this channel as I don't remember doing so....

@JohnnyOrgan 3 года назад

Liking the look of the new set. Very nice.

@ghostmouthzach56 3 года назад

Another excellent video, Neil! Cheers.

@zxrenew5642 3 года назад

Nice video Neil. I enjoyed that, very entertaining and informative. I think there were earlier clones of apple products as well. One that springs to mind was the Orange! lol!

@scottgfx 3 года назад

I bought a Power Computing Powerwave 604|120 in 1996. It initially was a great computer. Where I ran into trouble was with upgrades. Cards like CPU upgrades and video cards like the Miro DC-30 just never worked well. I suspect that Power had tweaked the clocks on the Apple chipset to eek out a little more speed, but put things out of spec. I don't know who remembers the articles in the magazines back in the day, Power Computing generally benchmarked a little higher than Apple's systems with the same chipset. I later put a few of my cards in a blue Apple G3 tower I bought and the cards performed much better. The Powerwave got sold to a friend and I think it lived a good life with a G3 processor card I eventually got for it. Wow, I completely forgot about G3 upgrade cards. I'll have to research the manufacture...

@brianh2771 3 года назад

Nice historical summary of a mostly forgotten class of machines. Maybe worth noting that using modern flat screens is normally not an issue with classic color Macintoshes. You just need a simple dongle that converts Apple’s 15-pin D-sub monitor connector to the HD15 VGA standard connector.

@MathieuBurgerhout 3 года назад

Hi Neil, love what you did with the cave. I can't help to see that the white balance is quite off between shots. Even in the thumbnail ;)

@DavidStahlOLDHAPPyMACs 3 года назад

Great Video Quite An Amazing History About The Apple Clones

@GerardKean 3 года назад

I'd like to see a what-if where commodore didn't melt down and out mac'd apple during that period

@TheJeremyHolloway 3 года назад

The Atari ST - and not the Amiga - was the fastest Macintosh back then courtesy of the Magic Sac Macintosh hardware emulator. And thanks to it, the Atari STacy laptop was the first Macintosh laptop.

@EvilAcri 3 года назад

That last rhetorical question (or more specifically that hackintosh part/one) is interesting, when all seems to be pointing to "no alternative OSes, last couple years for hackintosh" direction.

@lemagreengreen 3 года назад

Interesting video, I never saw any of these clones back then. Then again I didn't see many Apple computers in the 90s UK at all!

@boblowes 3 года назад

I used a few Mac clones at art college (almost the entire computer dept was Mac based for graphic design work) in about 1998/99 and they were perfectly fine. The vast majority of computers there were LC IIIs or whatever the education variant was (you got the same machine, branded as a Quadra, Low Cost or Performa depending if you were buying for the home, business or education - VERY confusing), lots of Mac Classics, Centris and so on. Even the odd Macintosh II, a few G3 all-in-ones and various PowerMacs, all tied together by Apple Network Servers. It was a sea of beige. They all got sold off to the students (and vastly overpriced) or dumped, as they shifted to G3 iMacs and B&W G3s. Of course, I was still using my Amiga 1200, so I quickly got hold of some Mac Rom images and ran a very stable Mac emulator, which made life a lot easier for transferring files.

@jameslewis2635 3 года назад

Something interesting that you might come across if you keep looking at older Apple machines and their upgrades is that Microsoft provided a few expansion cards for Apple machines back in the day. The only reason why the licencing scheme failed for Apple is that they couldn't let go of their typical price gouging ways which you can't really get away with when you have a relatively open standard.