Personally I cannot appreciate enough how much my gameplay improved when switching to arcade stick. I understand why people found it difficult. But it was the deciding factor for me to commit myself to Tekken, I felt just so awkward and clunky on a controller.
Of course it all comes down to personal taste, and my taste happened to align with the arcade sticks. I was struggling with pad for months, but once I had a week under my belt with the stick, I felt a noticable improvement.
@@YaGirlGumption yeah, I play on both and don't notice a difference except when I'm playing a certain character but the more I see everyone talk about it, the more I realize that it's just personal everyone struggles in something different like you could struggle on something and I could be a master on it but at the same time there could be something that I can't do but you can do it with no problems.
I was struggling playing Tekken 7 with controller and I just wasn't having fun. It felt super clunky. When I got my hands on an arcade stick, it felt loads better. Controlling movement with my entire hand instead of just my thumb, having easy access to all buttons with every finger instead of just my thumb and index fingers really makes a big difference. Regardless, use what works for you.
Ikr. Gotta explain to people when playing on the couch.. I'm a different playr, any other time. They wouldn't even get a round when I can move and electric properly. Can only do the odd one, cos I learned on that, not pad
I don't want to ditch my stick, not only because h/mboxes are frowned upon, but it does feel rewarding to know your sticks 'sweet spots' for corners and sides. And then when things click you can sting moves, get comfortable and confident in your movement in junction with adapting to a new peripheral.
I used all except mix box. Don’t ever let someone be the reason you don’t enjoy the game. Lol fuck being frowned upon use what you like and forget about the talk. I’m glad you’re loving arcade stick I love it too I just wanted to give hitbox a try.( it’s fun too so far tbh.
I just use both depending on how I feel. why not? I'm not some top 10 tournament player that can't afford spending extra time learning another controller
I couldn´t agree more, I have kind of an injury (permanent) on my thumb so stick was the only option... and when I changed to it everything was much more difficult, but it´s stick or giving up.
im glad to hear im not the only one having a hard time learning p1. i my picked up my first stick with a taeyoung fanta lever a week ago switching from pad and i started learning on p1 and man it was so hard to wavu or ewgf at first, especially dewgfs, but now im really getting the hang of it and sometimes when i go p2 im surprised how fast and easy my wavu is compared to p1 even tho im mostly learning on p1.
I had a chuckle at the thumbnail. That stick with the red buttons and balltop is the model I just bought a week ago to replace my 10 year old SF4 Mad Catz stick
Learning stick and getting comfortable on it probably took me close to 6 months lol but it was worth it. Altough if you just want to win probably go for hitbox.
I haven't faced that problem I got the hang of it in like 2 weeks I think it's maybe because I had mastered the inputs on Pad before using a Stick and some of you might have thought that Arcade sticks are easier so you ditched the Pad before learning it or Mastering it and I think it's cause when I was little I had a PS2 and Xbox 360 in Pakistan was very expensive so we had to go to Arcades to play the newer games which at the time were T6 and TTT2 and when I got an Xbox 360 in 2016 I had to play T7 at Arcades because a PS4 at that time was too expensive😆
Started off Tekken with a JLF stick and liked it for a bit. Then I moved over to Korean (Crown 309) and stuck with that for a year. Eventually I stopped playing Tekken and got hooked up with a Hitbox. It takes no time to learn KBD, execution is easy, and imo better for your wrists. I still feel as if my KBD/ewgfs are still smoother with stick, since I've been using a stick longer, but in general hitbox is so easy to pick up. Highly recommend it
@@drabnail777 not cheating, allowed for tournament look superakouma. Just much easier learning curve and arguably the most ergonomic controller for fighting games.
Idk, kbd on 2P side aint really that easy, neither is wave dashing. I play on hitbox, too, and I really really like it, but some ppl treat it like you can instantly do every hard execution with total consistancy and no effort. Thats just not true.
For the sidestepping problem...just go back to T4 style where crouch = db. Sidewalking was easier in general too - just hold up or down, no double tapping needed. T4 had lots of problems but I think they should go back to that stuff.
@@Cynnik911 A bit late but I just checked it and yep, you're right. Doesn't make sense to me why they left it like that in that game. Maybe they just didn't realize.
Tekken was definitely made to be played and enjoyed with a stick, that's the fun of it. The rest is to find the best option for your comfort when playing. If you are looking for more precision in the execution, mix/hit box is a good option, even a game-pad. As a developer who spends all day writing code on the keyboard and doing other tasks with it, jumping into a game using a keyboard takes all the fun out of the gaming experience. I used to pick a Sanwa lever, but I didn't like to use the ball top. In the arcade centers of my country I used to use a lever with a bat top. So I bought a Korean bat top lever and never used a Sanwa one again. If I couldn't use a bat top lever later on, I'd switch to a hitbox, but the experience wouldn't be the same.
I dont agree with this personally, they all have their ups and downs, it really depends on what you are doing and about personal preference. I play stick, hitbox and pad and I really don't feel like one is harder than the other, just depends on the situation and character
i can't get the same speed with pad that i get with stick, also on pad when doing electrics, i get misinputs a lot more. from teh F* to down input, because of the design of the pad if you hit the edge of the Down section of the pad, you get the DF input even though u hit the Down section. I get the exact input i want on stick.
@@ShadowMoses21 i just can't wavu or KBD with controller, also, there's a 50% chance i'll have a misinput for electrics or just frames. I hit those 99% of the time with the stick. I also changed teh spring from the stock 2lb to a 1.5lb spring, so i barely use my fingertips to input directions. I also changed the restrictor gate to a circular gate cus that's what the arcades in my town had. The stick rewards deliberate precision inputs with ergonomics for faster inputs. I cant say the same for the pad. Mind you, i can play SF or MK just fine with a pad.
I just bought my first fightstick (Mayflash F700) and I've been playing Tekken with a controller since Tag 1. It's so different from controller, but I feel like learning stick will help me improve in Tekken. also it looks sick
After not playing the game since Tekken 3 I fell in love with Tekken 7 last november when I got a copy on sale. I started playing on pad then went to stick pretty fast and have now settled on mixbox, but after months of trying to learn KBD I still can't do it, I'm so close, but still not quite there. I'm no fighting gaming noob, been playing fighting games since SF2 came out in 93'. It's very discouraging trying to learn this and not gonna lie I'm really hoping that n Tekken 8 they just allow a back dash to be canceled into a back dash. I can't imagine how hard it would be to learn KBD if you were new to fighting games.
New KBD'er here.. and gotta say it's fkin BS , and I play Bryan who apparently is one of 2 characters that doesn't have a normal input for it.. it's annoying and I've been trying 2 days straight now
I’m exceptionally late to the party but please give me your thoughts. I just got the 8bitdo Xbox arcade stick and I was genuinely curious. Octogonal gate or square gate and why? And should I swap out the buttons and joystick to sanwa or can I get away the default sticks and just focus and which gate 1st?
i have an 8bitdo the buttons are okay no need to swap. swaped the stick to a jlf and changed the spring to 3lbs felt better but it didn’t make my inputs magically perfect. now im contemplating on getting a korean lever but i have this feeling since i alrdy swapped and still need practice that maybe its just me. i tried playing with my keyboard it was okay and precise but under pressure i fumble more. I mainly play tekken and thinking of playing sf starting with 6.
I tried fighting games at least 4 / 5 separate times across multiple games. It wasn’t until I was really enjoying strive that I bit the bullet and got an arcade stick. Everything clicked better. Now trying tekken and it’s fucking great fun. Yes it’s personal taste but unfortunately it’s an expensive experiment and commitment to get a controller for a handful of games to see if it fits. I’d gladly go to arcades but none really in Scotland unless someone comments and points the direction?
Honestly, the whole concept of arcade stick in fighting games is flawed. Using a video game controller shouldn't be as hard as mastering a guitar or something.
It's really not that hard you can get used to it if you spend enough time, most people just go online and cry when they can't play good on the controller they don't go into practice mode and practice what they find difficult so instead of it taking a week or so to master it takes them months to get used to it because they're trying to win and not trying to improve.
for me if you wanna play a mishima character with a korean playstyle an arcade stick is a must, you can play a mishima but with a different play style (like using DJ up4) you can use a pad.
Took 8 months to learn stick for me, my p1 is is amazing but on stick I still can’t do a dash in or running df on p2 without getting a cd input lol. If I wanna run in and end a kaz combo with df1 4 I get cd1 sometimes running into neutral helps. So many of these little things to work out with both sides with stick and don’t get me started with qcf and qcb
to do dash in/running df2 just go from forward to down forward without a neutral input. Slide from forward directly into down without letting the stick rest by riding the gate
Have you tired command killing it? Just search "command kill" if you're unaware of the technique, you can find videos on it. Not sure if it's possible in this situation, but worth looking into.
My movement is better on the right side, but I'm most comfortable playing on 1P side. I play stick with a battop, but with experience with pad and keyboard, their a little easier. Playing SF2 got me use to stick.
The problem is in gaming that it went from just playing and having, while some were trying to get good, to the point where most players will be extremely sweaty and try to gain every miniscule imagined advantage and spreadsheets and peer-reviewed studies on fucking everything...
Not a mishima player. For me P2 is harder for movement so I play it more often as i "forget" it easier. At the moment both sides are equally good....but I'm a mediocre player in general :D
You cant side step left from certain things on p2 side meaning cant avoid some things as you can only side step up on both sides in these specific situations it means the p2 side cant avoid it
I don't think so, it's just because you're used to one of them and naturally doing the other is difficult for a human being. I've gotten used to both of them and I think they're both the same difficulty.
@@ScrambledEggAbdullah no like, day one having an arcade stick i could wavu on both sides easier than on pad personally. Like WELL before i was able to play on stick consistently
@@ShiningSta18486 everyone is different it seems, because TMM could have difficulty with one thing and I could do it with no problem but TMM could do something easily and I would struggle at it like a total scrupman.
People that play pad. Do you play claw or with your thumb? It's actually very easy to play very well on pad with a claw grip. I've been playing claw forever and am currently raijin.
For me it's so much easier/accurate to get the inputs I want with the pinky wrapped around the stick as if its a wine glass. If you pay attention to Japanese fighting game player's you'll know what I'm talking about. Some use their ring or middle finger. That comes with preference. A Korean stick on the other hand you're not able to pull that off given the dick like shape.
@@aquilesca5tr0 yeah but beeing worse doesnt mean you cant figure out how to work. They are people use all type of ways to use a grip, just look at some grip tetris profissionals players use.They cross a leg to make a base then sheck her to make more motion on the pad.
I'm still not nearly as comfortable on stick as I am on pad. tho I can wavedash much easier on p1 and kbd better on p2. I don't get how it's supposed to be easier the other way
controller tekken was just spamfest for me, I even held the controller upside down to be able to reach all the buttons(this meant I couldn't play TTT2 very well obv) once I started to play with the keyboard MY GOD the game became 20x more fun and I became 80 times better (10th kyu to grand master :D) I ALWAYS wanted to play with an arcade stick, too bad they are more expensive than my actual computer in my country's economy, so I will have to wait YEARS before even trying an arcade stick once
Dude, your grip is the issue. Three fingers grip is the way to go. The arcade stick has a higher learning curve but the end result is that moves become much easier to do on the stick compared to something like the controller. But your issue lies some place else. It's in the grip. Because rigt ward wave dashes and KBDs are easier. Also, the only reason why arcade stick is harder to initially learn is because people mostly have been playing on keyboard and controller their whole life.
@@JesusGarcia-Digem pads are faster for directional inputs, sticks are faster and more consistent with complex inputs but the cross up has a lever and buttons that can be used like a macro for frame perfect attacks
This is just a lie bro the first day I got my arcade stick I felt a improvement nothing is harder expect you have to be more precise I’d say so you don’t accidentally do moves but that’s the main difference
I'm pretty bad at pad. Not that I'm good with stick either but with a stick I can play for yours, whilst in the pad my thumb stars hurting within 30 min of gameplay ahahahahaha
@@Bloodfused-qn9xu It is a top tier stick but i would recommend the qanba pearl because of the noir layout that is considered better especially for 4 button games
@@aquilesca5tr0 alrighty, so pearl is better in general? I'm about to get one hence i'm asking. I feel like its dumb to throw 200$ for a stick and it not being worth. I'd like to ask where i could order good parts aswell, would appriciate your help!😄
@@Bloodfused-qn9xu Pearl is exactly the same as the obsidian but with the noir layout which is considered better in general especially for tekken, when knee had to play with a vewlix stick (obsidian layout) he disliked it so much that he played using the 2nd and 3rd button in both rows
I play Fighting games on fightstick since it's what I'm mainly comfortable with the most but for Tekken I guess I'll have to use something else like a Hitbox.
Curious to ask. What’s the best arcade stick on the market right now? I’ve been lookin’ at a few sources, but it’s hard to tell. I like top quality products honestly, but never used a stick before. Can anyone can me any recommendations on what’s the best of the best as far as fighting games goes?
@@WASTHATABULLET Dang. I went and purchased a Qanba Dragon a few days ago lol. I heard Hitboxes & Mixboxes are really popular too. Some have called them “cheat” controllers also though.
