Why Are Cylon Basestars So Useless? 

I always found that hilarious. The Cylons were so worthless at trying to kill the Galactica that it DIED OF OLD AGE!

Cylon BaseStars were a complete success. They were designed to meet all requirements....all requirements of the plot.

They do have a plan. The plan is missiles. They didn't say it was a good plan (seriously at least guide the missiles to strike from all angles instead of direct-firing them into the flak screen)

The Galactica hass finally been taken by metal fatigue Cylon: Just according to plan

Actually, this flaw is realistic. They built these weapons for one purpose, so they wouldn't have built in extras. (They have to worry about scarce resources too!). They didn't expect to fight Galactica, so why build ships to do it? Remember history is full of similar mistakes. The US failed to deploy repeating rifles at the start of the Civil War; everyone in WWI failed to change tactics to take account of new weapons. So, it's not surprising that Cylons made a similar stupid mistake.

Galactica: "The Cylons _still_ haven't managed to kill me? *Guess I'll die.*

As a new viewer, I'm honestly really liking this aspect of BSG. Too many sci-fi shows and movies treat their alien adversaries, especially robots, as logical, unstoppable forces of nature. While BSG certainly portrays the Cylons as deadly and effective in many situations, particularly in the destruction of the Twelve Colonies, they have significant flaws in terms of arrogance and failure to adapt to a changing situation. It's like they spent so long planning for one, specific attack that they didn't even think about contingencies -- in essence, they put all of their eggs in one basket and paid the price throughout the rest of the show.

The burning toaster at the end was the best part 😆

**Builds a ship for war** **Doesn't put guns on it**

The Cylons were for all intents and purposes an immortal race, only with a slow respawn rate. They could easily afford to play the slow game of wearing your enemy down. Eps 33, and Scare demonstrated this perfectly. Continued attacks wore the Colonials down, and wrecked their psyche, while with each death the Cylons grew better at fighting Colonials. This mentality did however backfire in the end when they lost the Resurrection Tech.

The flaw wasn't on the ships, but on the cylons themselves. They underestimated their enemies. That's the biggest and dumbest mistake you can commit in times of war.

+1 for the added humor value of the visual aides.

They never had a plan. No, really. Ron Moore has said in a number of interviews that the line was only included in the opening of the show because David Eick thought it sounded cool.

The galactica rotted away before they could destroy it. *FAIL OF THE CENTURY*

The reason for this is simple. They were never meant to fight battlestars. Basestars are specifically designed for planetary siege. They jump in, release raiders to keep defenders busy and nuke the living shit out of the planet. Even if the entire colonial military fleet survived, it would be useless, with no colonies, shipyards or industry to back them up. The only thing Cylons had to do is to be around so they can nuke any base the fleet tries to build. The battlestars would eventually fall apart from wear. Which is precisely what happened.

The Cylons did have a plan, destroy humanity at the 12 colonies and keep the survivors running until they died from exhaustion. It said multiple times throughout the series, the Cylons are immortal machines, they could take unthinkable losses and simply resurrect. Over the course of the series, they probably lost twice as many shifts as the colonial fleet had if not more and didn’t think twice about it if it meant that they were able to take out a ship or two of humanity. Too them, it’s simply did not matter how long it took her how much life was lost, neither held any meaning to them. When they lost the resurrection hub, everything changed however and arguably The need to restore resurrection, or embrace procreation became more important than wiping out humanity. In fact, if I recall after the hub was destroyed account there were no further major engagements between the two sides until the final battle at the colony. This mentality, really explains almost all of the Cylon tactics used. The overreliance on missiles, the weapons platform approach versus actual battleship approach of the base stars, the swarm tactics of the raiders, all of it was geared towards rapid for strike and overwhelming with a rinse and repeat which can only be done with essentially with a strategy that uses unlimited resources and immortality. Had the resurrection hub not been destroyed when it was, the colonial fleet would’ve found itself under the protection of the rebel base star far longer than it was. It’s actually an amazing tactical error on the Cylons part that the hub wasn’t constantly guarded by its own fleet round the clock or parked in orbit of a black hole like the colony was. They lost the moment the hub went up.

The BSG movie "The Plan" fills in some of the gaps in the first 2 seasons. Regarding the Cylons, particularly the ones hiding in the colonial fleet. They really were completely unprepared for having to mop up a large organized group of survivors. For the most part, the infiltrators were just desperately winging it while trying to create a menacing facade.

Inability to adapt was also the weakness of the Cylons in the 1978 Battlestar Galactica. They were in a stalemate for 1000 years and only human treachery brought about any progress, and then they were in a stalemate against just one ship.

The Baseships weren’t designed for war. They were designed for genocide. Hunting down a battlestar commanded by the best tactical strategist ever wasn’t part of the plan.

A few thoughts: 1. At least until the Cylon civil war and the loss of the hub, it's not clear that destroying Galactica was actually the goal of the model which was in many ways in control of the Cylons. A long, painful hounding chase until things fall apart or supplies run out seems more suited to Cavil's goal or punishing the 5. 2. While the show does a good job concealing this - the original cylon uprising and the skin jobs are not one and the same, and it's not surprising that Cavil and the others would ignore or look down on the tech used by those original cylons.

Cylon Centurion: My lord, I have a plan. A cunning plan that cannot fail. - Does it involve a turnip? - Yes.

I think the new Basestars were designed to fight disabled enemies that could not shoot back. That would make the backdoor in Baltars CNP actually crucial to the success of the invasion of the Colonies instead of being an added bonus. An analysis of the battle tactics used by the cylons during the invasion and how it might have gone had the Colonial fleet not introduced the new program (or if the backdoor had failed) would be interesting.

"We are Gods chosen!" "You failed so much the enemy literally gave up out of pity towards you."

You forgot a crucial advantage of the Colonials. *PLOT ARMOR*

".....Seems unbecoming of a species that so often reminds us that they "Have a Plan" and shows a background of a toaster on fire. i'm dying lol

Don't worry Spacedock, it's all going acording to plan. The Cylons wanted the Galactica to survive all those battles. (Basestars explode around them) It's all going acording to plan.

Shade was thusly thrown.

If the Cylon's weapons are too perfect, there would be no series to watch on the TV after one season 😉

Failed to mention Pegasus, Mercury class Battlestar that can take on multiple baseships and jam inbound missiles. Galactica actually had a difficult time defending itself. Basestars were dependent on electronic warfare and far range warfare so if they brawled point blank they were fucked.

I always interpreted the Galactica's death as just having been blown up and shot and patched together over and over so many times and doing so many jumps it finally gave up. Also the Adama Manoeuvre. That couldn't have been good for it.

"They have a plan" *Ballistic weapons not included

"The Galactica literally rotted away before the Cylons could destroy it!" - Ouch, that was a good toaster burn.

If one of the flaws isn't "Marc and his stupid FTL rams" I will be thoroughly surprised.

I would like to see a comparison between the Cylon Baseships of the 1978 series vs the Cylon Basestars of the 2004 series, detailing the differences in size, weapons, and Raider compliments.

They DO have a plan. It's just a terrible one.

To be fair, I had the impression that part of the reason that final jump killed Galactica was because she had taken such a beating from the *artillery* systems mounted on the Colony. But also the metal rot lol

*sees title; rubs hands* "Oh boi dis gon be gud"

They have a plan. Plans don't survive contact with the enemy though.

Another aspect is that the colonial Battlestar is a double-edged sword for the Cylons. Notice how they *always* engage side on like two ships at broadside. To me, this is because despite the disadvantage of facing the Battlestars flak fields. The Cylons never position their ships in front of the Galactica or Pegasus, due to their main batteries facing forward. To engage in this would be suicide. We see that when Lee Adama destroys a Baseship in seconds with the pegasuses main battery at the exodus of New Caprica.

The Cylon plan reminds me of the US Air Force's plan in Vietnam. Removing guns from aircraft and becoming dependent on missiles. So yes, I can see why the Cylons would think this is a sound tactic. Also, even after realizing their mistake, they were pursuing an evading fleet, and they couldn't exactly pull ships and send them to be refitted.

I absolutely LOVE the distinct "Hitchhikkers' Guide to the Galaxy" vibe in this video! If you ever get the urge to include that vibe again, please indulge!

The destruction of the cylon base around the black hole due to nuclear missile impacts is probably the best example of such said bad tactics. Awesome video, as always.

Been waiting for this :D I guess the cylons where 100% dependent on wiping out all humans in the first attack instead of actual ship to ship combat which ended poorly against the Galatica a ship designed to combat cylon vessels of stronger design in the first cylon war. Because lets be honest. The first war cylon vessels based of colonial design where better at fighting colonial ships than the new ships .

It seems like the Cylons put all their cards in initially destroying the 12 Colonies and their defenders in the initial attack. And didn't consider the possibility of any meaningful counterattacks or surviving warships.

They had a plan, no one said it was a good plan...

They did not plan for the BSG. Considering nearly ever Battlestar were destroyed in the opening salvo. The Pegasus only escaped by doing a blind jump. So really it was a good design for their plans.

In universe I think it shows part of the difference between the leadership of the synthetic human cylons and the purely robotic cyclons. As the nature of the Cylon civilization changed so did their outlook and capacity to adapt.

I always felt Galactica should've Sacrificed itself at New Caprica, and Adama's crew were forced to transfer to Pegasus. Then after a few episodes on Pegasus, they rename it Galactica in Honor of it and her crew's sacrifice.

I always was so annoyed by how the Basestars were designed. Such a joke. Think about it, if the battlestars aimed for that pylon where it connects the Y arms, It would just split in two and it would be useless already. If Gaius Baltar wasn't such an idiot, the Colonial Fleet would have whipped the Cylons off the floor with their Pegasus-class battlestars and Viper MKVII. Another example would have been the Battle of Ragnar Anchorage, 3 modernized basestars versus a 40 year old battlestar and the battlestar managed to fend off the three basestars and escaped relatively unscathed. Battle of the Resurrection Ship, two battlestars, old and new, versus two basestars and completely wiped the floor on them. Hardly a competition.

I haven't seen more than the first few episodes, but from what you've said, I this the Cylons' problem was that they had a plan that they refused to deviate from. When unexpected things like Galactica surviving happened they failed to adapt their philosophy and their ships to the new reality.

Let's not forget that a very significant part in the Cylon's battle doctrine was being able to hack and shut down any and all Colonial craft. If that were possible with all Colonial ships (which is close to 100% of them, except the Galactica of course) then the Cylons wouldn't need to worry much about defensive measures.

Even so, during one of the episodes (no spoilers) Adama said they can't hold off 3 Basestars. Even with the Flak Shield, there are times when missiles do get through and detonate.

Cylons should have kept the Basestar variant from Blood & Chrome - it had guns, missiles, lots of Raiders, and visually seemed to be armored. BTW, how about a comparison of 4 Basestar variants? Original, Blood&Chrome Variant, Guardians Variant and the new one?

Two notes: 1) IRL, changing tactics and more importantly developing new weaponry needed to change those tactics is time consuming, and requires a massive investment of industry and manpower, so it's not really remarkable that, once the Cylons' basic error was revealied, they didn't have enough time to fix it. You see this in WW2, where the Axis was largely unable to change their tactics or adapt to new situations, whereas US forces - having ludicrously massive testing and construction facilities, and money being literally no object - were able to adapt over the course of the war, developing new weapons, new attack strategies, and so on, which allowed them to exploit the AXIS weakness. 2) The RDM Cylons are kinda dumb. As RDM himself said, "The Cylons would have lost the first war if it had gone on much longer, which is why they agreed to the truce." Their strategy in the 2nd war was entirely based around the surprise attack, and, again quoting RDM, "In a fair fight the Cylons could not win a ware against the colonials."

Basic ballistic weaponry can also be mitigated with flak or other point defense depending on the range of the engagement. The farther out the attacking ship the greater the chance that its attack will be intercepted by countermeasures.

Frakking Baltar 😂 He was my favorite character because he filled so many roles. Villain, Genius, Lackey, Savior, Stooge, Leader and Blithering Idiot. I flip-flopped so much on how I felt towards his character. One week I'd want him dead. The next week I'd feel bad for him. After that I'd think he was the only reasonable person in the show but then he'd make me want to kill him again. It was *so* good.

I noticed this whilst playing deadlock using the Argos basestar (or even the regular basestar to some degree), they just can't hold up against battlestars. The Cylons need a battlestar equivalent, something durable and hard hitting but not reliant on missiles.

Out in the Black A lack of flak when you're under attack Is pretty whack

They must not have considered the Galactica a factor in the upcoming conflict, relying wholly on their electronic subversion to eliminate any flak systems.

That toaster at the end must have been their "Imperious Leader"

Tecnically the BaseStars do have a defense ... in the battle of the hub you can see they use missiles to intercept other incoming missiles.. and those missiles seem to behave like antiaircraft cluster flak.. exploding and expanding snaprel to intercept incoming warheads.. that however probably has little efficiency against the Galactical gauss guns

I really appreciate your ability to see the flaws and shortcoming even in something you love and enjoy. this quality is rarely seen.

love the whole Templin voice bar thing your doing, keep it up spacedock!

Remember that episode; i think it was called 44. The cylons kept pursuing the fleet pushing the fleet to exhaustion.. they had the means to destroy the Galactica, but stopped because they had a plan called let's make money by writing great episodes and selling merchandise. Look, we are still talking about it after all these years.

I think it's insane that she took so much damage during the finale. Not even pegasus withstood that much damage at the fight over new caprica

So this is actually something super complicated....but also really easy to explain away, Back in the First Cylon War, it was that, war. Armed conflict that lasted years, which required innovation on both sides, adapting to each other’s strengths and weaknesses. (Clothos from BSG Deadlock explains this with fantastic dramatic appeal.) But...then the war ended, and the cylons (after a few boring plot details), started planning their revenge. The virus built into the defense mainframe would effectively kill any ship that a raider could scan, turning whole battlestars into lifeless hulks. The Cylon’s “Plan” never required war. It never required point flak cannons, or vessels built for long term, multi-role engagements. The new base stars were built for a single task: launching as many missies and nukes as possible. The very unique star design helps this, as it gives the sides of the ship four “wings” from which missiles can be launched, and we see it happen in the show. They’re basically floating weapon platforms. They’re never really made to fight either. The raiders go in, shut down or nuke anything that’s a threat, and the base stars can go in and clean anything up. If you have several large ships floating in space that you need destroyed, what would be the fastest way to kill them. Flak cannons? Balanced defensive systems? No. Nukes, and a ton of them. The cylons were fueled by their own arrogance, but unlike the comical, mustache twisting villains of old, their plan completely worked, at least mostly. The first battle the Galactica has shows us just how spectacularly the cylon missile platforms (base stars, but that’s what the are), fail. The fighters are supposed to shut down the ships, so the capital vessels can nuke the battle star away. But of course that doesn’t happen, leaving them to just throw their once effective missiles at them. The galactica does take some damage, but the cylons learn after this battle that going toe to toe with the galactica while she’s ready is a terrible mistake. But still, cylons, Cavil most likely, are fueled by arrogance. They simply try supplementing their base stars with raiders, hundreds of them, attempting to swarm the single warship with numbers alone. “33”- The cylons are still learning, they try the waiting game. Exhaust the crew, push the ships to their limits too. The cylons have more resources, they have resurrection, short of losing a base star, there’s zero risk in keeping up the chase. The battle with Pegasus- Honestly, the cylons seemed like they were panicking. Two battle stars got to spend ages shredding one base star before the other one even got close enough to start firing. I think the cylons simply weren’t expecting “actual” retaliation, and it bit them in the butt. They tried protecting the resurrection ship, at the very least having their missile boats distract the battlestars, but of course we all know how that turned out. New caprica- Another round of arrogance. They have the numbers, and at least the intelligence to keep a few base stars hiding. The cylons know now that in order to protect their precious missile platforms, they need to guard them with &$@ tons of raiders....which is why Galactica tricks them and pulls them all away. But cylon numbers happen to win again, and if not for Pegasus, this would have been a great victory for the machines. Everything else- The story honestly repeats. Base stars were never made for what they were needed for, chasing Galactica. The battle of the nebula? It worked, because the cylons needed TONS OF MISSILES, to kill the civilian ships as fast as possible. The raiders supplemented this, since Galactica was far too worried about defense to try and attacking back. In summary: the cylon war machine worked, because it was never made for war. As a orbital patrol ship, maybe guarding the twelve colonies, I imagine these things would have been great. But for real combat, and especially without fighter support? These things fall flat. They were made for brutal destruction against unarmed targets, which for 99% of all colonial...everything, they worked perfectly for. Sure, to us, they seem like failures. But if you consider just how much other destruction they did? They start to seem like a much better option.

Basestars aren't useless; They're pretty damn good at their single purpose: Wiping out humanity based on 12 planets in a nuclear holocaust, and cyberwarfare. The problem was that they didn't expect anything capable of fleeing to survive. And lets face it, the only reason the Galactica survived to New Earth was through divine intervention (read: extremely thick plot armor). If three basestars had jumped into the middle of the fleet like they did when the rebel basestar did when the Demetrius had FTL problems, they could have launched nukes against half of the fleet before Adama even order an alert. That didn't happen, somehow, despite having precise tracking information from the Olympic Carrier for the first couple of days, when they were still in the Cyrannus system with plenty of support to blow the fleet out of the sky.

I think it must be hard to create an enemy like the Cylons. They need to be able to project a sense of danger and risk. They need to be stronger and more dangerous than the protagonists, but need to be defeated each episode in a convincing way. To achieve this the writers need to provide a weakness or shortcoming of the antagonists, such as was done here. It's similar with the Wraith in Stargate Atlantis, etc.

Cavil, as we found out later, virtually directed all Cylon decisions. He presumably did away with original models and base stars as they wouldn't do what they were told. So a sort of spoilt brat with a fetish for nuking and no respect for his enemy, was left to design the new Cylon navy and was completely reliant on the virus disabling anything that could fight back. Notice the colony was armed to the teeth though, so he also thought of every other ship and Cylon as disposable too.

I like that move the battlestars do where they orbit a basestar while orbiting it, as seen in the Resurrection Ship battle.

So the Cylons only got plot based weapons once and used them on the PEGASUS.

Glad they fixed this in Blood & Chrome, the Basestars used are shown firing canons/flak. Shame we won't see more of them though as that series never even got its first season :(

Cyclons thought they were going to wipeout the 12 colonies completely. But wars develop a life of their own and the need to survive is perhaps the strongest drive in the human race.

To their credit, Galactica was built for her job. She’s practically a a baby war star (which scales to infinity class super ships like in halo) And to the cylons, only number 1 wanted war and used subterfuge to get it. Presses the question, did the subterfuge come before or after new base stars?

well thats a obvies case of the most powerfull tool know in all universes: PLOTARMOR

I think the basestars were designed to suit a particular purpose and they performed very well in that regard. I think the first battle of the series gives a very good indication of how the Cylons would have fought if the plan had failed. They simply sit back and allow their missiles to bombard a Battlestar at range while their raiders take care of the vipers before moving onto the Battlestar as well. If I remember correctly, the Galactica was actually hit by a few missiles in that engagement. So if we assume that the Cylon strategy for the baseships is long range bombardment and raider support, their design makes sense. The long arms for multiple missile batteries and a central section capable of deploying dozens if not over a hundred raiders as once, would allow them to quickly overwhelm a Battlestar. I think the ballistic weapon argument is difficult to make for two reasons. Firstly, if the Cylons favoured long range bombardment, there’s a chance that a Battlestar could simply move out of the way before the projectile arrived, a missile (depending on its type) can be controlled and redirected to wherever the Battlestar is. Secondly, there’s no guarantee that Galactica’s flak field would not have destroyed it like the missiles. The projectiles the battlestars use seem to be quite slow moving, giving the flak field ample opportunity to destroy or deflect the round (if used by the Cylons). Finally, I think that we missed out in a sense with BSG. I love the series but I’d have loved to have seen the long range bombardment strategy of the Cylons face off against the close with the enemy strategy of the Colonials. We get snippets of this like with the battle of the resurrection ship or the battle where Apollo takes control of Pegasus but seeing a full fleet engagement start to finish would have been amazing.

This is a question I have asked myself many times. Battlestars stomp the shit out of them all the time. Interested to see how you handle this.

I also submit that one of the chief strengths the Cylons were counting on was superior communications. When you can disperse orders at the speed of light across a theater of battle, you probably have a distinct advantage against those who have to speak to communicate.

I would love to see Battlestar Galactica with Admiral Adama facing off against the Space Battleship Yamato and Captain Okita!

It is interesting to note that the Hierarchy of the Cyclons also had Wardens, those that wanted to wait and take a measured, thorough approach and meticulous approach, to the annihilation of the Human Species, and the Crusaders, who were chomping at the bit to END the Humans As Fast As Possible. Had the Wardens won out, they very well may have wiped out Humanity by building contingencies into the Battle Plans.

You raise some interesting points, though seemingly fail to understand that the design of the Basestar is likely years in the making and as you say, designed for a particular purpose overall (the destruction of the Twelve Colonies) which it acquitted itself admirably. It's able to act outside those design perimeters, though less effectively. That's the way with any ship in well-written science fiction. The Basestar isn't a Mary Sue - which it sounds like you want - it's a purpose-built warcraft that in chasing the Galactica and the fleet is operating in ways outside it's original design perimeters (it appears more like a mobile weapons platform. Which is to say it warps into position and either unleashes it's ballistic weapons or Raiders, kind of like an aircraft carrier). Changing designs of any massive craft takes time, which in the middle of a conflict is perhaps not the best way to spend one's resources (especially when you have the benefit of seemingly limitless numbers and an enemy on the run). And as far as point defense goes, that's the entire point of having waves of Raiders available to defend the mothership, especially considering that most opponents would either be overwhelmed by the Raiders combined with the Basestar's ballistic weapons if they stay and fight.

This is made all the more puzzling when you look at the final assault on the singularity base. _That_ Cylon base had tons of ballistic weapons, and they kicked the snot out of the Galactica.

The depressing thing is, the Cylons basically use modern military strategy for ships. Spam missiles and fighters and prey your ship never has to take a hit.

They had a plan. Pearl Harbor or maybe Barbarossa in space. Plan A but no plan B. The Cylons' plan was to win this war in just this one battle, wiping out the entire colonial fleet. Galactica and Pegasus escaping the assault and still being operational was not part of their plan or even considered a possibility. That's why the Cylons' base stars were not designed and equipped to deal with a battle star. So their overconfidence made the Cylons indeed very human.

The Vulcan Science Academy has determined you should just enjoy the show.

It's right there in the name: BASEstars. They're combination bombardment platforms and carriers, not, as you said, main-line battleships. Essentially, whoever designed them didn't talk to whoever was planning their battle doctrine.

I would only like to know, why this was suddenly in my reccomended? like i never even watched battlestar galactica ._.

The Cylons were machines, they designed for effeciency and specific tasks, namely... as you point out, attack a virus crippled Colonial fleet. Their plan never envisioned Colonial warships not succumbing to the virus in Baltar's program

Well, the plan is to not kill the ship whose name the series bears within the first 30 minutes of the pilot episode... and the plan was successful 😆

It's been years since I watched the show, so I may have this detail off, but considering the Cylons were constantly chasing the Humans, did they really have the opportunity to refit their ships any more than the Galactica had to do serious repairs? They may have well known that their ships weren't the right ones for the job but being relatively unable to leave the pursuit and return all the way back to Cylon space for a refit and redesign seems to me to explain why their ships never improved.

I wish BSG was still in production. Easily my all time favourite sci-fi

(1) ballistic weapons may not have been as cumulative as you think. The Galactica (esp with the fleet) has manufacturing facilities on board. (2) Ballistics seem to be much shorter range than missiles, which makes sense. They would move so slowly that no one could land a hit at great distances because you'd have time to move out of the way. This is why Galactica used them for point defense at short range, and both sides used them on fighters which would be attacking at short range. It would probably not be effective to use them as a long-range offensive weapon.

Here's a crazy thought, the Cylons didn't really want to kill them (humans) all. They knew someone needed to be left to start the cycle of civilization and destruction again. Possibly that was their 'Plan' given to them by the One True God.

I imagine that their primary combat focus is electronic warfare, and as a result, their physical weaponry is not designed to defeat countermeasures that would otherwise be knocked out due to their primary assault on the ships command and control systems. 🤔

As many have staited the posibility that new basestars where build holocause in mind not true hunting or slug fest battle that Colonials had in mind. There is other posible factor that limited the ship and tactical thinking of Cylons that they had limited pool of minds, lets think about it you have population estimated 20-40 milion but all of those people are split whit clones of 7-8 individuals hos baisick thinking and personalities is all ready set in stone, that limits new ideas and thinking out a box specialy as all desisions are made by voiting whit all 7-8 people how might not see your idea in the eye. The Cylons had put themselves in a picle as the people how run the system lack true military mind and khohesive desison maiking organ Calvin is just a control freak how laced many things for good leader.

The animation of the battlestar getting shot by a giant gun and the burning toaster were hilarious additions to the video. Congrats :D

Beautiful. If only the Cylon Rebels has even 1 Arachne class warship, the organic cylons would be wiped off the floor. Exaggeration, but not far from the truth. Arachne being the light warship of the 1st war Cylons, right?

now i imagine the cylons opening a window and trying to do a drive by with an old human handgun

It’s the imperials all over again!