That is why many are planning to not vote for Ena. The industry is way too dark and traumatising for a 12 year old. I know she has her dreams and she can complete them when she's at the very least above 18, but 12? No way. Thats too young.
@@SanaShineShy I'm born in 2010 so it will feel so weird if she did somehow made it to the group. 💀 I don't wanna stan someone younger then me, it feels uncomfortable, at least to me.
@@bitsnbites7753 some parents allow kids to achieve their goals without setting a whole plan. She can become an idol if she wishes to be, but she should be at least above 18 to participate in a survival show which can be so traumatising and it gives so many idols depression and anxiety and so many have cried remembering what they went through. So yeah putting a 12 year go through what even what adults have trouble dealing with is so messed up in so many ways
I’m also concerned about the PARENTS of these minors. WHY do they allow this to happen to their child? If my kid were debuting at that age, I would back out. The parents still have the final decision if they want their child to enter the entertainment industry at a SUPER YOUNG age.
It’s either a delusion that “Oh my child is gonna become a millionaire at 15” or it’s just parents who want to make their kids happy, since they kinda don’t want to crush a child’s dream.
Their are parents that only care about the ₩. But seriously parents forcing their kids in entertainment isn't new. It happens everywhere. Look at child actors. But most develop mental health issue, like Jeanette mcurdy. Like they say, every child deserves a parent but not every parents deserves children. They don't careror are manipulated by the companies/manager.
@@kiingzvision No one is saying that their dreams should stop, but dreams can wait. Some children dream of becoming a pilot, but your not gonna let them already fly a plane just because they dream about it. Its not even allowed. Focusing and finishing school first before pursuing their dreams, and not even be possibly debuting at 12 is better. Give them also the time to think about other possibilities for a career. I wish for her and all to go after their dream but dreams do not have to happen right away. And if this all about youth, 🤦🏽♀️ 18 is young as hell too, so Idk why they NEED middle-schoolers? It's super weird. And especially in kpop, many idols regretted debuting so young. Some claimed that they didn't have a real childhood/teen years because of the busy schedules and pressure they endured as a young idol... thats kind of alarming. Anyway, but no one can do anything, the companies gonna do what they want. So this gonna be a useless battle.
It isn't only about Ena, im planning to not vote for any of the the underage girls. As a fan of SHINee and NCT, I've seen Taemin and the dreamies talking about their experience debuting so young, and it should be taken seriously. Sadly, the industry is looking after the money, not caring about the life of these young people.
@@bitsnbites7753 I remember when Jaemin talked about sacrificing school and social life to be an idol.. he said he wanted to attend school and is regretful :(
It is up to their parents to protect them. Not our job to take care of them they made their decisions. Also western artists also start out young like Justin Bieber, Ariana Grande, Billie Eilish and Selena Gomez. So don’t get why it is a big deal when young kpop idols debut. Many kids also have to work on part time jobs at cafes and shops.
YES. I’m voting for the 2003-2001 girls. Not only bcs it feels uncomfortable as hell voting for the minors, but also bcs this is most probably their last chance. Companies don’t debut this age range anymore, at least in girl groups. They’re, sadly and literally, too old for the industry now. It’s horrible.
I think older trainees should be given a chance. there is a boygroup that made its debut after everyone was in the military. The name is XEED. The youngest is 27 and the oldest is 30. Please check them out, they are really good❤
People don't care. I suggested Xeed to a few people and they just said "Oh". They really only care about the more populare groups and since MOST kpop stans are kids who hate older people,they only care for younger aged groups Xeed and others like them or even still very active 3rd gen groups are sitting right there, yet, people waste all of their time complaining about underage idols instead of supporting adult idols and promoting them
Honestly I think each company wants to get their hands on the trainees while they're young & impressionable. There is nothing wrong w/them training after school & on weekends as long as it doesn't affect their school work. I know South Korea recently put some guidelines in place for protecting young Idols but the country might have to take it further & make it hard/illegal for these companies to have teenagers as full time Idols. They can debut after they graduate high school!
@@webmasterd Exactly! And it bothers me too. I feel like they're missing out on a lot of their adolescence by being forced to do a grown up job full time while going through puberty
Manipulation, simple as that. Also, in a very very very sick way…they know who buy their stuff…teenagers and adults men. I will never get out my head the amount of grown men that are at New Jeans fan signing
Exactly! These agencies know what they are doing. I mean what grown men and women look at a child and think it’s okay to take her out of school, limit access to friends and family and train them practically 24/7. This is predatory behaviour, attracting all the pedophiles out there. These kids will use up all their youth for a company that only cares about the money and once they get ‘old’ they will be replaced. There is no other reason why they would be debuting minors. Why not wait until they get older? Let them live a little?
Honestly it’s getting creepy because Baby monsters most stanned members are 13 and 15 years old and people online are calling Haerin’s body type the ideal one like if such shit doesn’t stop this industry from debuting minors then the sexualising and exploiting won’t be stopping anytime soon and the industry will soon collapse in a way
I was looking forward to BABYMONSTER debut. But now i'm not sure. I'll definitely listen to their music but debuting minors just creeps the sh*t out of me. I mean, half of them are literally kids.
@@anuabraham5823by listening to their music you’ll support them, yg, and this whole trend of debuting minors. If children debuting truly creeps you out, boycott babymonster completely.
@@Mal.victory fr cause I'm literally gonna face toxicity everywhere, why not take my chances with a career that is known to pay well if you're successful. Also I luv singing and dancing so that's a plus in my eyes.
Sungho, Riwoo and Jaehyun are all 19 going to 20 while Taesan and Leehan are 18 going to 19 and Woonhak (the youngest) is 16 going to 17. All of the BOYNEXTDOOR members debuted as adults except Woonhak.
@@swduc2836 You're right with your data but you have to fundamentally understand how international age works with Korean age. If you're 1 at birth you don't turn 1 until your birthday in international age. Which means that someone 20 in Korean age can still be 18 in international age. If you're born in December of 2004, you would turn 19 in international age in 2023 but not until December meaning you'll be 18 the entire year until December while STILL BEING 20 IN KOREAN AGE.
I was already shocked when Hyein debuted at just 14, now a 12 year old?! Thats younger than me! Although Im happy this girl is achieving her dreams Ill be more than happy if she were to debut at an older age like 15 or 16, pleasantly 18. 12 is too young!
idc about opinions or views, Ena should not debut and should’ve never been on the show. if you are voting for her I actually think there’s something wrong with you cause debuting an 12yo CHILD in an industry as tough as the idol industry is just WRONG.
@@Devi_Seona it’s not ok for both. Acting is a huge grey area bcs horrible things happen there but you can’t make adults look like small kids. Every industry has it’s problems, in USA they scrutinize you and follow you around for everything. In Korea the training and lifestyle is harsh as hell. Both leave kids with a lot of inner struggles and problems. Both are bad.
@@orangelady416 yes , but where are still other minors in the show and some of them will debut for example Iris, Seoyeon , Himena , Iroha , Hanseul etc. all of them are 15 !
I'm sorry but I hope people DON'T vote for her because she's literally 12 years old and a literal child. She's WAY too young to be in the kpop industry, and just imagine what will happen to her mental health if she ends up debuting. She will be exploited and overworked at such a young age. Let her live her childhood, and she can still debut later when she's older and not a minor. I really don't understand why Hybe and other companies want to debut minors. Isn't this like child labor...
I’m so disappointed in hybe and yg. The 12 year old girl is way too young to be exposed to the K-pop industry. Especially participating in a survival show is going to damage her mental health severely. She should be focused on her education😭
I don’t understand how these labels expect the members of these groups to get along or be able to work well with each other/be cohesive when there are such big age gaps. I can’t imagine expecting 18+ adults to have anything in common with kids as young as 12???
I think I know the answer to why there are so many groups with minors now. The United Nations and WHO have been trying to decriminalise pedophillia in these few years (You can find articles on this matter). These organizations and governments have ALWAYS used mainstream media to promote their agenda, and I hate to say this, but large entertainment agencies have strong links with the authorities. Why do we see minor idols? Well, it's propaganda. They are trying to make the mass get used to seeing minors doing sexy concepts and wearing relvealing clothing. And this is not only a problem in the K-pop industry. Actor Corey Feldman has said before that "I can tell you that the No.1 problem in Hollywood was and is and always will be pedophilia... I was surrounded by them [pedophiles]". It's so sick.
because these companies know that debuting minors is what easily gets peoples attention. the same people who sit up here and complain about idols being too young are the same people that tune into their debut and eventually become their fans not even two days later. it’s always the same predictable story that plays out just with a different group.
I've been saying YG needed boycotted for what they've been doing with Babymonster since near the beginning. It's not a question whether or not these companies need actually boycotted, it's the fact that you will NEVER get millions of worldwide fans to actually boycott. People have no self-control and they will cry "boycott!" while listening to those groups songs for the thousandth time. What needs to happen will never happen as far as fans go. There needs to be a new group of companies that grow the RIGHT way and hopefully someday takes over the attention from these smooth brained money grubbers, but the odds of that are also slim to none.
For real, I agree with you. People don’t care that the groups they are staning are LITERAL kids! It’s disgusting. YG, it’s really not that hard to post-pone the debut of BAEMON until that maknae is at least 17/16.
One of the reasons companies like to debut underage minors is because they know the minors will attract more viewers especially attention from much older people watching because of a supposedly “young,pretty, fresh, & clean” image the minors have. It’s honestly disgusting because lots of times companies will sexualize the minors image giving them a sexy concept and sexy or very short clothes. It’s so wrong!!! This is slowly but surely becoming a s*x industry.. one of the many reasons why I don’t watch or listen to kpop anymore.. 99% of the time now it’s based on looks and age only. Lots of kpop companies don’t care much about talent no more because they know they can use money to train the heck out of these kids for dancing, acting, & off course singing w/ heavy auto tune. It’s sad & people complain a lot about this issue but people still support these companies.
I think people get a kick out of fetishizing young girls AND boys! A lot of people discuss their dislike for 'uncle' stans but 'aunty' stans are just as problematic and their actions can come off as predatorial. They cover up their behavior as familial affection or concern but is it really? I don't know about you but my uncles and aunties never bought me thousands of dollars worth of gifts. Lined up for hours just so they can touch my hands. The K-pop industry is so saturated with talent! You can stan anyone but you settle your pick on literal children. If that doesn't say something then what does?
im scared for the 12 yr old bc if she does debut, she’ll most likely be going through the same traumas sakura went through AND she’d miss out on real education + her childhood. the industry is a brutal battle that’s already hard enough for adults so imagine a 12 yr old having to go through it? personally, she has a lot of time to train and I feel like by going on the survival show, she’ll be able to improve more and get great opportunities out of it. debuting kids was common back then, but it shouldn’t be now. if we have the chance to vote who gets to be a kpop idol and who doesn’t, now’s the time to stop a 12 yr old from going through these traumas, especially since the industry nowadays is polluted by sexualization, hatred and toxicity.
@pruitv3 I’m sorry? I wasn’t stanning ena to begin with. I’m concerned for her well-being if she does debut. I don’t care about how the industry works whether they have minors debut to manipulate and keep them in groups longer or not, if I can stop a kid from losing their childhood and being manipulated, then I will.
Seriously nowadays debuting minors is so often that 18-19 year old trainees feel old that's so odd....I believe the minimum age for idols to debut should be 17(international age)...even 16 is also acceptable if they turn 17 within a few months...but nowadays they are debuting 13-14 aged idols like what😭...even some fans also suffer from inferiority complex after seeing idols younger than them so often and getting established whereas they are doing nothing
@TalulahC this is correct. In America, there is no such laws like that. We don't have a lot of child singers but we have a lot of child actors/actress and Hollywood is just as toxic as kpop industry. Yet we have no laws to prevent minors from acting. It's honestly their choice to pursue this dream.
The careers of idols start when they are young and that is what works, it will continue regardless of anything else, though the minimum age of all trainees should be 16+
Regardless of it works or not, the fact they're getting younger and younger is disgusting at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they debut a 6 year old
@@Neo-Queenserenityt2lNot 100% sure about trainees (tho JYP used to have this boy group of hella young kids dunno how old they were tho) but Im sure someone had trainees this young
It honestly wouldn't surprise me if these companies debut younger and younger idols bc they are more easy to manipulate into unfair contracts. Since older Trainees might be more likely to do research about labour laws etc. since theres currently a lot of attention on that topic due to multiple lawsuits against unfair contracts
From a company perspective, here are the benefits of debuting young idols: -Longevity (can milked them for longer) -Energetic (have not lost the passion for music/dancing) -Naivety (agreeable, easily manipulated) here are the cons: N/A lol
also since they’re younger, they don’t have any “normal” teen experience that would be taboo or cause controversy in korea (drinking, beefing with friends, smoking, sex, having that rebel phase) so to avoid the past surfacing they debut younger to monitor everything. basically groom them to be the perfect idol with the perfect background
Yeah ,some say," This has been going on in K-pop for a long time. Why are you only noticing it now?" I'd say it's because these days it's more frequent and heavily advertised. Some groups have the oldest being at least 18 or 19(which is not too bad), and then going down from that scale has the youngest being 13 or 14. These days, I say companies are trying to fit into a 'trend' where having more younger generations is to seem to be cool and where it attracts more people, which is obviously working.
I don’t care if they are super talented, if you are 12 , you can debut later, like 6 years later, and you will be still, young, also you can develop better your skills in that way, at 12 years old I was dreaming to be a an actress, now I have change a lot dreams
Back in 1998 there was a girl group called “Circle” that had debuted in August. They were the group with both Korean and Japanese members before Twice. This doesn’t get a lot of attention, but the youngest member Shirayuki was born in September 1986, which means that she was 11 turning 12 when she debuted! Not to mention that the oldest member Ayako was born in 1982, making her 16. They disbanded around 2000/2001 when Shirayuki was 14/15.
Around that time, there was a lot of underage celebrities coming out. Being was like 14, 15 at the start of her career. Usher started at 11 I believe. There was even a group that had all adults and 1 teen. He was 13. Justin Bieber was like 13, Chris Brown was like 15-16, then there's the entirety of Disney actors and artist People have to understand that kids pay more attention to these things and the companies pay attention to that. Fans find it less relatable when the person they are watching is older, so these companies find people their age to keep them entertained. That's not going to ever stop. The best thing to do is STOP demanding so much perfection and quality time with these idols and worshipping them like Gods and they'll be less overworked and can finish school and have a normal life
@@chhhyu yea- the circle members included Ayako, Jihyun, Boram, Yuka, and Shirayuki (Baixue) 3/5 had a Japanese nationality but I think Shirayuki was ethnically Chinese (hence her Chinese name Baixue)
Honestly if this happened in America (which it has before) but if it happened now you know damn well the fans of that company would stop supporting the company for debuting a literal child but cause Korea is creepy and likes children as idols and dancing sexy on stage it's fine, the government should've done more instead of cutting the hours the idol can work they should've banned children from debuting at all and made the companys pay money if they get caught debuting children
@@hoanhuynh7059 "looks like you forgot about these artist that debuted almost 2 decades ago." Justin Bieber debuted on 2009 and Britney Spears of 1998 bffr now.
Well, we all keep talking about how bad debuting minors at the same time we are supporting said minors. So unless fans actually show they do not agree with their decisions of including minors things will not change. I am not supporting New Jeans and I am not planning on supporting Baby Monster, but I can say that I am one of the few that has been able to stand by this decision. I don't hate on them and find it hard to not support some of their songs because they are everywhere (and let's face it the songs are catchy) but when reports like this show up it makes me upset that in the end companies are right to continue this trend because people are eating it up and love it no matter how bad these kids might suffer later on.
So for all of those who think it's wrong to debut minors I have a question. Do you not listen to any groups that have a minor them and completely not watch their content? Because I wonder how much of you who say you have a problem still consume the music and content of groups that have at least 1 minor in them. The truth is as long as the groups with minors are bringing in the money not much is going to change.
My concern is that dreams change so if I'm 20 and you're 14 I'm mature enough and have already made up my mind in terms of wanting to become an idol, not only can't you make good decisions yet but you might regret being an idol once you reach 20
a lot of kpop stans do genuinely care and are actively against debuting minors but on the other hand a big portion only says they're against minors and hop on to stan the newest group with mostly super young members not to mention the stans who openly are okay with the young ages of kpop idols i mean just look at the ageism older kpop idols receive and what's sad is that they're not even old like even 23 year olds are called old it's a huge problem and i think we need to deal with ageism first before we can talk about not debuting minors, we need to see debuting adults as the standard because at the end of the day this is a job and adults are better suited for it, we need erase the word "hag" even as a joke because it's becoming a real problem not a little jokey joke.
1. Training from a young age itself is stressful. But they should be teenagers if they are even going to become trainees and the timings and workload shouldn't be stressful enough for their age. But Considering the kind of competition these kids are kept against they would naturally want to work hard 2. The minimum age for an idol to debut provided that they will be paid immediately and their work timings are limited should be 16. I mean 18 should be the correct age, but i feel 16 should be acceptable since a lot of factors are taken into consideration while selecting the debut team and selecting trainees above 18 might not create the group the company wants to build. So 16 should be the worst case minimum in such situations. And again its in the hand of the trainee if they really want to debut
@@edoardorivera4119 But again, it's only possible with a couple of trainees. But some trainees could be exceptionally talented or fit the image of the group the company is aiming to build. This is the reason expecting all the menbers to be above 18 itself isn't idealistic . Maybe it worked out for certain groups, but for certain groups we can't imagine the group without those members and we don't know the determination of these trainees to debut considering how hard they work to be out there and the anxiety they feel until they debut. But There should be strict regulations upon their working hours considering they go to school
I will refuse to vote for the underage girls on r u next (or at the very least the 12-15/16 year olds) and I hope other voters will be responsible and do the same. The girls will have their time to shine in the future but I think we should prioritize the older trainees with the most training experience and talent and skills. We can still show the young girls support in other ways than voting.
My eyes popped out when I you said ena is 12 bc one of my siblings is 12 and I could not imagine him just being an idol and doing all these things when he can’t even cook a proper meal 😂 and I’m as shocked as there are 09 and 10 liners in that boy survival show
It also sucks cuz most companies only accept like 18 and under trainees so if ur older than 18, but ur super talented, ur chance is still small lowkey. And if you want to debut, you would probably have to train for a good 2-5??? Years. And if ur lucky then you get to debut like in a year or something but that rarely happens. I’ve seen multiple trainees (who didn’t debut) but they started training at like 16-17 and they wished they started earlier cuz the kpop industry goes rlly fast. If your too old and not improving then bye bye. But if ur like 15 and not improving, the company will probably still keep you cuz they have time to train you. Idk why they do this😂
I don’t understand people saying “it’s their decision so let’s support them”. If you need your parents’ permission to do something doesn’t it already mean that by law you’re NOT OLD ENOUGH to make decisions on your own? It’s ok to support children’s dreams in a safe environment but let them change their minds, grow and make mistakes without public scrutiny. Didn’t we all want to be pop stars when we were 12? Let them explore more options. And not all parents know how the industry works… babying underage idols after the debut isn’t the best option. There shouldn’t be a need to protect them in the first place. And before anyone says anything, yes, it is a problem not only in K-pop. Western artists also often debut too young. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t try to change it, no matter where the child labor happens.
Honestly don’t think it will change no matter what people do, rather People support or not. YG and HYBE will continue to do it if they continue see how much popularity and money they make off of younger idols. And then eventually more and more companies will start debuting younger idols if they can.
Tbh I’m do not like seeing minors debut nor protecting yg but there I feel like baby monster is the only group in yg history to have such young members
K in kpop means kids. Why do poeple care about someone life let these kids make money and follow their passion as its their decision no one force them why you all care that much?? At the end of the day kpop is just entertainment and these kids making 10 times more money and being rich and you all still struggle with your study and desk job
Children that age should be playing Pokémon, taking silly selfies, playing sports, and having slumber parties. They should NOT be thrust into the public eye for adults to judge and criticize.
These companies won't stop debuting minors if there are fans that actually still support them instead of boycotting. Just look at NewJeans' success. And people gonna complain about Baby Monster as well in the beginning but then stanning them in the end. It's all talk but no action.
Why everyone is blaming just the companies(I mean they did something wrong) But I want to ask the minor idols parents,WHY WOULD ANYONE MAKE THEIR 12 YO KID DEBUT AS A FRIKIN' IDOL? THAT IS WAAAAAAAAAAY TO FAR They didn't finish school, they didn't finish their childhood Besides, Imagine training the whole day everyday for over half a day Parents protect your baby plz
This isn’t just a kpop issue, it’s a global pop music industry issue. Children being exploited from a young age has been going on for a long time in America as well. Justin Bieber, Billie Eilish, Miley Cyrus, Nick Jonas of the Jonas Brothers- to name a few, all having been no more than than 13 years old at the time they first became massively successful. Those KIDS were exposed to the immense pressure the world put on them and were never given the chance to simply be a carefree child. They were disturbingly sexualized and influenced to partake in ADULT behaviors, while being thrown into mature/inappropriate environments in their adolescence. A lot of them now have trauma as grown adults due to those experiences. Something needs to change but I don’t foresee that happening with the ways things are and have been for years.
This is honestly why I am only fans of groups with members 17 and up, I know 17 is still a minor but it’s way better than 16 and under. No matter how many songs I like from groups like LE SSERAFIM or NewJeans, I will not stream it as I refuse to give money to a crappy company who will debut minors in bad conditions. It’s honestly embarrassing that I’m older than some of these idols in these groups or shows. I actually want to be a idol but I will NEVER and I me NEVER debut until I’m 20. I am currently a minor and I refuse to debut into a industry young as I know the industry’s dark sides and I’m aware of what I am putting myself into and cause of that I’m not debuting under 20.
I understand the extremely high risks for such very young idols. That's why Korea needs to probably legislate something about this, like establishing a consensus on how old should an idol be upon debuting or putting very strict safeguards for companies to protect the children while being a trainee or an idol.
It is really concerning tbh, I was so surprised that I saw no one talking abt it, like everyone was so stressed to say a word, at least the other minors are all teens, but ena is literally just a child, she probably just finished elementary school, she is still discovering herself, and building her personality, and the fact that ppl are really ok with it just makes it worse, I saw some ppl the other day saying that she made her own decision let her be responsible for it, well hell no, girl can't even fly on her own let out making such a life changing decision tbh for me all the blame is on her parents like where they, we all know trainees under 14 can't sign the training contract without their parents consent, which means they are very okay with what's going on, it is really scary seeing that 18\19 y\o is now considered old, back then the maknae was literally 20, and now 20 is old, like freakin/ excuse me what the hell, like we all know how ss are really cruel like much more cruel than just debuting her right away, I can't believe how her parents are literally okay with exposing their child to such an environment like she will express the ''stress feeling'', I didn't express that feeling until I was in 9th grade with my finals literally, like idk if she was my child like that's a damn no until she's 14, and ONLY training no debuting until 18 istg, she is still young y'all don't vote for her I'm sure she is really talented if she was able to join but still, guys vote for the older trainees this is probably their last chance to debut, ena is still young and has so many opportunities ahead of her, and tbh I think I kinda know why they debut them this young, so imo, if ena debuted they can literally resign with her 3 times and she will still be only 33 y\o, like by that time she can start her acting career and stuff yk, like with older trainees like jiwoo, she is almost 22, they could sign with her only once and it will be already enough for her to start her acting career or wtsv she wanna do after it, like with kids they can profit more, I can't believe it if what I'm saying is right, it is just too cruel to literally USE a child for your own benefit, if she really end up making idk how I will stan them,
Some people said 16/17 is too to be trainee or debut. Just many people supported under 16 people. Not mention 18 years old should not begin the oldest of group until they are 20-30s
@@edoardorivera4119 ikr, but at least if the youngest is 17, at least there is nothing left for them to become adults, but noth a 12 years old, by the time her contract will end, she will be just graduating high school like hello, she will be lacking so many skills that she can only gain while in school, and not as celebrity, unlike jiwoo, the oldest contestant in here, girl will be graduating college this year, like the age difference is insane
Even I want to become an idol but I'm just 12 I'm probably gonna audition when im 15 Or 16 but ena's age really shocked me and ahe gonna be in a survival show no way she's too young even for being in a survival show, debuting as a group will be much harder for her she's too young!! Pls somebody take action!!!!
I think we should care more about hybe idol than YG because it's not their first time debuting a group of minors and when we talk about yg Chiquita is 14(very young) and Rora is 15( who is young but people don't care about her cause she is korean and not thai) but when we look at the other baby monster members they are all 16+ and YG doens't give frequent comebacks nor pressures them like other companies do so, I'm not that worried about chiquita and rora. Yes, i do believe idols below 16 shouldn't debut but what can we do if they say no to debuting they'll likely be kicked out or left like that forever. I'm talking about Hybe rn they are literally debuting groups after groups for making more money, hybe is greedy.. also when new jeans debuted everyone spoke about how they shouldn't debut but when they were gaining more popularity and fans the ones who were against started supporting them, like why the hell is a 15 yr old a brand ambassador! Just imagine the pressure that new jeans have because not only are they young but also hybe has bought them ambassadorships for global brands so, they can be more popular, if you are a fan support the things that are actually better for them!
The way of the entertainment company to debut these minor is the legendary 7 years curse... If they debut at the young age, they will automatically renew their contract when they rech 7 years contract coz they stil in mid 20s, but if these idol debut above 20, they will be almost 30 when reach end of contract and high chance will not renew their contract. Kinda ironic
Batman the animated series foretold their future as our present, debuting minors not sustainig real young groun-ups and adults in their 40s to 60s who have more experience and more surprises to show us in musical and drama industry. These managers and producers have horribly forgotten what real 'old' people are it's when peoplare in their 70s to 100s and even so, people cannot mock others just because they are being old.
The K-Industry is making me sick to my stomach under 18 yrs of age is a huge red flag for these minors... guess it's easy to take advantage of them when they are so young and barely understand anything about the industry is so sad. what's next coming for the next generation to debut 3-4 yrs old, this is disgusting.
If a single year of competitive dance was too stressful for me at 16, I cannot imagine how stressful debuting in such a cutthroat industry at an even younger age must be.
You know what is so funny?! I remember few months ago, Chromosome Entertainment which is run by Lay from EXO in China, revealed their 14-16 years old trainees who were about to prepare to debut when they turn 18 years old. And some New Jeans fans where giving speech about how wrong it is for underage childs to become a trainee while their bias in the group they stanned was 14 years old and already debuted. Hypocrites.
Those young idols just want to achieve their dreams, but they don't have any idea of what it will take. They will achieve their dreams yes but their intimacy and mental health is gone. Idk for you, but there is no achievement that can restore your mental health or the loss of intimacy.
Aint no way im older than Ena. This is getting ridiculous. I could see that they want "younger beauty" but its getting out of hand. And its the fact that all the industry is older than me.... this is a shocker.
All of your forgetting. Okay, how hard South Korea is for kids? You need to study so hard and you have so high expectation of you. You know how many kids in South Korea killed themselfs because of the hardships that they endure during school. So don't tell me that it is worse than School. sometimes I think it's even better than school being, because at least you know, you'll get some money and have a future.
PLUS, a lot of these idols families are poor and they become idols in order to help out their family. The job pay in Korea sucks, right a long with the work hours and the people. These kids end up being the sole provider for their family or they'll forever live in poverty or end themselves because of it or because of the bullying International stans don't know what anyone outside of America goes through so they don't think about what these kids are actually doing They'll ruin their career and starve and kill the family of these kids ALL BECAUSE they themselves can't stop bullying, demanding, and sexualizing these idols The nicer they are to idols, the easier the company is on them. But they don't realize how much this has to do with them and won't take accountability when they do realize
Tbh I think south Korea really needa start indicating laws that only allows people over 16 or 18 to debut, 12-14 is waaaaay too young 😭😭 and I’m surprised some CEO, head of these companies don’t even acknowledge these simple moral/ ethics??
Remember 19-16 or even under shouldn’t be the oldest of group until they turned 20-30 which is much better to be the oldest of group. Not mention Japan are more pedophilia then South Korea, when grown people sexualized Hey Say Jump (17-12), many Johnny’s artists and many 48g members (the ones who are 15-10)
The companies only want money, control, and to be able to look at young people doing adult content. They are power hungry,selfish and gross. The younger the idol, the longer they can have control over them and make money off of them. Older idols would not be as easy to pressure and manipulate, and companies see them as shorter contracts. Business side of things is gross and the industry has a long way to go with implementing positive change 🤢
The problem is just that as awful as this is, it works… New Yeans got SO much attention before their debut because of the age topic. Everyone said it was wrong, but as soon as they debuted everyone changed and praised them. Debuting young girls/ boys is wrong, but as long as the fans buy into it, I don‘t think Companies will change…
I saw a video with a comment saying “if she is talented enough at 12, she will be fine at 18.” Which is so true!! I am so glad that many people are not going to vote for ena. She is too young for this industry.
just wondering, why does no one ever bring up nmixx when talking about minors debuting? I mean they debuted a 15 year old...it seems like people just excuse minors debuting when it comes to their favs.
What about NiziU and the rest of Jpop, when Mako was 19 and Nina was 15 which is not ok until they were better debut age at 20-16 for them (2021). No one under 20 should be the oldest and no one under 16 should be the youngest
Soon we will see trainee idols of 6 year old who look 16. Something about all these girls looking much older than their age. I’m wondering if they were lying about their age as their marketing techniques! 😅
1:09 THE JAPANESE CONTESTANT NAMED ENA LOOKS LIKE A STRIKING RESEMBLANCE TO PARK JI HU FROM THE NETFLIX ZOMBIE ACTION K-DRAMA CALLED "ALL OF US ARE DEAD" EVEN SHE'S TOO YOUNG... UNFORTUNATELY, YIKES! 🎌📺💃😁
These companies don’t care about the hate they get all press is good press whatever gets them attention and it’s so sad honestly if you wanna audition you have to be born 2006 and after they should give older people a chance
ik it's been around for years but it never stops breaking my heart and making me sick to my stomach. I'm only a handful of years older than half these kids but it's still awful to see and it really needs to stop.
They sink lower than I thought they could. Kpop companies are scared of the number 18 and higher. Newjeans could've been as successful even if they where all over 18+ their succes is because of their music. Its good, no one can deny it. Newjeans succes is not a good reason to debut a 12 year old my god.
@@selenophile6405 sure, that is why I cited 2 groups, because everyone in 2nd gen do sexy concepts....read. And that is not even the point you just comment to argue. Go away.
