Why are Mogrts (Templates) so slow!? 

I feel like I'm rendering the first Toy Story trying to run .mogrts

Thanks! I feel so comfortable after watching this video. The fucking slow envato-mogrt video template files almost made me crazy just before.

Awful stuff MOGRTs. Not only slow but barely customizable. So I have some text in the mogrt which I don't want, so I just delete the text in the essential graphic panel. Problem is the text has some graphic to go along and that can't be removed... I wish Envato had a filter for mogrts

Appreciate the insight. I've always been a Premiere user, but never really worked in AE. I came here to find out why the $99 MOGRT package I just purchased is sooooo slow and I have a pretty nice 4K editing rig.

Of course I find this video after 2 days suffering and searching for faster computers... You are a genius.

Thank you sir for this insight - I used to think there is something wrong with my system config - One assumes that such solutions *MOGRT* etc are 'Designed' for use but they are just non sensical files only to cmplicat ethe whole Editing Scenario - Making people believe it can be done - False Hopes...

Short answer is Premiere pro is nothing but a ball of garbage. It sucks that some third party plugin only work on this garbage and resolve has limited stuff like keying and animation if it only has that I have been long in the Davinci Resolve community. Final Cut is good but its really for standard work and not on fancy ones with lot of overlay speed ramping keying and masking. Mine can play mogrt but problem is it does framedrop from time to time and its annoying, in yours though i'd probably scream if mine was that slow, tbh if that was how my machine react on mogrt i'd probably throw it on the dumpster.

It's a good topic. Best practice with MOGRTs from After Effects is to use a 1/4 preview. The sports MOGRT you've shown is fairly old and wouldn't pass Adobe Stock review today as they reject low-performance projects.

I just purchased Envanto elements annual subscription and nothing of the Video templates work smoothly and it is so slow and all of the files I liked is a Mogrt files that's why I purchased it, Did I purchase just to hear this ? What should I do now ? Please help !!

THANK YOU FOR THIS. I was going crazy. So glad to know it's not me losing my mind.

I think the problem is not due to using or not using mogrt's, they are necessary and the entire industry appreciates it, I think the problem is that mogrt's distributors must categorize them, so that all those who are buying one or downloading one, have in advance the idea of how complex the mogrt will be to run on your pc or mac, and for that there could be a kind of categories that go from "easy mogrt" "standard mogrt" "hard mogrt" "don't fuck with me mogrt "

Even with bullet point text .mograts are a bit slow. You can't keyframe them in PR anyway. They aren't quite advantageous enough yet to use as you would in apple motion FCP workflow. You might as well put an AE in the comp. I'm keeping my eye on using them as I like using AE with PR.

4:58 - "Abso-freaking-loutely not" is the perfect word for it right there 😂

I'm like my laptop is pretty decent and why the heck am I lagging so tremendously after dragging the mogrts.

and even after years, with amd 7800x3d and 4080 rtx we still cant play mogrts properly

Not quite. Working on AE is pretty fast (even on complex projects)... make it a MOGRT and goes dead slow on premiere. I have Years using AE, and no. AE is not nearly that slow. The exact same project will run 10x faster on AE than on premiere as a MOGRT. Which sucks, because the whole poing of MOGRT is having nice graphics on premiere

Thanks for sharing your knowledge! You are one of the few Adobe experts I follow.

-Its an AE animation : ❌ -Its an after effects big ass animation: ✅ 👈. 😆❤️Thank you for the informations !

*It's an After Effects Big Ass Animation* haha weird choice of words, I bursted out laughing after you said that.

Why do they make them in the first place?

Final Cut is faaaaaar superior with these types of templates. I just switched to premier for a job and blown away how they overcomplicate everything and how render times are insane...

Thank you for the explanation ❤

thanks a lot, i was cracking my head what i am doing wrong

Hi all! I'm looking for help with a black screen upon "render and replace" of MOGRTs on my Premier timeline. It looks just fine on the timeline until I render and replace. At that point, it immediately turns the screen black in whatever segment the MOOGRT is in. The only semi clean fix I've found is to lower the opacity on the MOGRT. Issue with that is a noticeable darkening of the screen during that moment. Watch my short film Listen and you'll see what I mean. In the section where the text bubbles pop up on screen. Please help!

I'm self-taught and did not know this - thanks - will save a lot of frustration.

This was interesting, thank you. If I've understood correctly the best thing to do is to either not use these AE Mogrts or else to render them out as soon as you have made any changes (in the knowledge that you can restore the unrendered version if required)?

I have also noticed if you have too much file in a project or have a big project with over 1.5k cuts and things like multicam , you may come across random dumb Render issues even though there is nothing wrong with the project xD. And the only solution i found was to delete all of these things and remake my own manually 😅

Is a potential solution to make it quicker to just export the Mogrt template as an MP4 from premiere on it's own, then place that MP4 video into the Premiere project we want the Mogrt in?

I thought for a moment there, "i"ll have a solution" haha. lol

Ohhh. That explains A Lot!!! This was definitely helpful :)

I guess one way to do it is edit in AE, save as a video and import to PP?

its like web template in last 10 years . So many DEV and Creator doesnt bother to make useable tools anymore . They just throwing everything and call it full features . After Effects ( and most Adobe apps ) basically very slow . If you`re in starting phase , I will suggesting to learn 3D software instead

Dude, you are funny. Thanks a lot! I was so confused as I got a beast of a computer.

thanks for the AMAZING videos and knowledge you share! quick question: do you need AE installled in your system to use MOGRT that are using AE?

This was a great video!! Thanks so much. Exactly what I encountered.

Tried every which way to bring in a MOGRT to a 2017 CC version of PP, but I get an 'unable to install' error message, 😮‍💨

How can I render faster with AE Templates in Premiere Pro? The Quality from the AE Template is not important.

Thank you for this video! I have been very frustrated with this. Now I know!

Thanks always for the info! One Question! What part of the PC would you upgrade first in order to make MOGRTs run faster in Premier Pro?

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I've been struggling with this. Now at least I know why. I sometimes even add text to the final video using Capcut. Imagine my level of despair 😁

I made simple mogrt in AE with couple shapes and one text container with one expression which controls font size. Mogrt filesize is 50-120 KB. And my PP takes it so slowly like it contains huge hard supereffects, so it takes huge time to render it. Why? It's simple, no any supereffects, but PP takes it hard anyway.

This helped me. Love your outro music!

Great tutorial Colin. I find if its a slow mogrt that doesn't want to move, I don't use it!

Good to know, though I can't even do Mogrts as I run CS4, which can't even do them, at all as it predates these motion graphics, though I don't think that's true for After Effects files I generate (yes, I have the Master Suite of CS4) that can be dropped into Premiere. However, a mere Dell Optiplex 9020 with a Core i5 processor and 16GB of memory is just "adequate" for basic editing. :-) Graphics cards is an Invidia GFource 610GT that does reasonably well, though just adding titles (remember, I still run the legacy titler) and it stumbles until I render through them.

Ohh thank you mate! I was about getting crazy what's wrong with my system... Ok! I have ddr4 16 gb but still I shouldn't have that slow rendering. Now I understand the problem. Thank you so much!

Well that's sad, but now at least I know! Thanks.

Thank you for making this video. I have a MSI GS66 laptop and all the sudden my export times went to hell. Bright side is, adobe thought it was their update🙄 (it probably was tho) . i have been getting the full creative cloud suite for $30 a month as their way of saying sorry i missed some deadlines. PRO TIP: DO NOT SET CREATIVE CLOUD TO UPDATE AUTOMATICALLY. YOU WILL BE IN THE MIDDLE OF A HUGE EDIT ON A SATURDAY MORNING AND THEN ALL THE SUDDEN.....FREEEEEEZZZZZEEEEE. CRASH. And you lost the last hour or so of progress, and have to wait until the download is finished. And then hope there isnt major issues between your project files and the new version of Premier. Been an adobe cloud sub for 3 years now. Final Cut is looking amazing lately. Wish they would do a subscription plan tho.

Hi I hope you see this comment . would adding more ram help to make it better? is it the lack of ram that is causing the slow-ness?

so what is the solution? you just described the problem, can you render it or pre render it after you make changes or something along those lines to see how it looks ?

Great video, Colin!

Your video probably just saved me so much time

Thank you for the information sir. Very helpful

This is great. Thank you!

I am just now discovering this issue as well. I found that while an AE mogrt file plays slowly in Premiere, if I import the AE comp it will play back much faster. I am posting minutes after trying this so I don't have any definitive testing to refer to, but a quick look at my GPU's usage seems to show that Premiere doesn't use the GPU while rendering mogrts but does for playing back the imported AE comp. Could this be the issue and if so, any ideas on how to fix it?

GREAT !! thanks.. the real question is, what sistem does the guys who do templetes and Mogrts use ?

I don’t know maybe you will help maybe you won’t I’m new at editing and I’m also a film student so I need to use a video can be anything in the back ground and have a map and a red dot or a line follow from point a to point be I do not know how to use after effects just would like to do it in premier can it be done I need to do this by the end of the weekend so I would appreciate some sort of answer quick thank you so much

I got my answer thank you

thank you! I was so frustrated. I'm still frustrated, but it is what it is

and what is the solution ?

is there any solutions to make it quicker at all? at this rate it sounds easier to hire in a animator lol thanks for the video really explained the process well! I had no clue after effects runs faceless for EG

thanks .glad I found your channel

Please stop the music at the end of the video. There is no need. Your video was so informative and then when the music started I just wanted to close the browser so bad.

Thought I was the only one experiencing this

one of the reasons i hate premiere so much.

wow ill suffer in AE then! Thanks!

Great video, thanks!

Very helpful. Thank you.

Wow , thank you for this!!!!

Headless AE 👍 I did not know how that worked. 🙏 Sadly, I find myself having to rerender all my AE imports if I leave PremierePro and return. No idea why this seems to be only happening to me.

Dell precision what model and what the guts inside. Thank for you help and wonderful videos?? Be well.

I have learned so much from watching your videos!! Thanks so much! As for After effects, I have given up on it permanemently. Unless I buy a $10,000 mac, I cant use AE.

My own problem is a little different. My premiere pro is always very fast until I import mogart templates into it and then the entire premiere pro becomes slow even without bringing the mogart files into my timeline. Whenever I import mogart s and preset files into premiere pro, it begins to lag. But without them, it's super fast. Any solution to how best to store them within premiere pro ?

So does that mean that I can’t do it or it will just take forever to do in pp instead of ae

Thank you! I thought my computer was the problem 🤭

In order to use mogarts on premiere ,do I need to install after effects?

solution ?

What is a mogurt?

I wondered why is this happening 😭😭. I can do the same thing on a smartphone or filmora😀😀😀.

Thank you.

There is something wrong with your audio in this video, its highly digitized, overly processed. Weird.

thank you so much

Wow thank you

very good

May i know the spec of your laptop

Sir, pls suggest me settings for how can i faster my render.

Thanks you my laptop save from a big couple of punchs!!!!!!!

Colin, I LOVE you videos and have been following you for years now. Would you mind cutting back on your cursing though, it is not necessary and un-dignifying. Additionally at least one of my children are usually in the room with me, and it is unfortunate that I can only play your videos when my children are not present.

I'm literally ready to quit all together because this is so unusable its not even worth trying anymore. These new motion graphics sucks so bad.

Jaysus mate ...get to the point

thx for this inside. now I have to find a way to tell my boss about it ... ;-)