Why Are People "FLEEING" Blue States? - VisualPolitik EN 

You might be misaing the fact that yes you can steal up to $2000 without it being a felony, but the person you are stealing from can rightfully shoot you. So the cost of the same act in texas is vastly different than in california

Visual Politik: “Why does San Francisco… the California capital…” Sacramento: am I a joke to you?

Personally, this is why I leftt the bay area for a rural Virginia home: I can build my own home with my own timber, without neighbors that report me to the county for depreciating their property value. and find better work here. Basically, I don't value vineyards, restaurants, billionaires, and the golden gate bridge so I don't need to compete with others who do.

The answer is literally one sentence: Housing is too expensive due too political capture by local real estate groups and NIMBY types

Cost of living, blue states have higher housing costs.

Don’t forget huge numbers of religious christians have left because they are sick of the LGBT extremism and the closing of churches during the pandemic. They have left for red states with more like minded people.

Even in red states that you mentioned have high crime rates, those crime rates come from cities that are very blue. For example: New Orleans, St. Louis, Birmingham, Memphis, etc… and we all know what the common denominator between all those cities are even if people refuse to admit/say it.

They leave blue states to just turn red states blue 😂 AZ, GA and soon TX

There's no crime stats if they let them go...

All of that exodus isn't just to red states but blue states too. There are a lot of NY workers that are moving across the Hudson to Jersey city, Newark or Bayonne because rent is cheaper.

That was so serface level on your part, way more you could have dived into but didn't. Your video felt more like a pr piece than anything worth while.

I hated California. It felt like there was a committee somewhere saying "Do we have a law about this? No? Okay, shall we make it illegal or compulsory?" Now I'm back in the UK, even this place is too much and I'm looking to get a farm somewhere in Eastern Europe. Ironic for someone who grew up in the '80s to look to the former Eastern Bloc in search of freedom.

You’re clearly missing a lot of details which would lead to a different conclusion. Cali doesn’t enforce their limit, Texas does.

Why do you claim that people are fleeing blue states in general when you only talk about Caifornia?

It's fun and click-baity to continue to talk about people moving from "blue" states, but the problem is that it over-politicizes universally socioeconomic issues. What's never addresssed is the slow death of small towns and rural areas; how some cities are paying people to move there; how industries are moving out of the small towns that rely solely on them and are off to Mexico, China, & other countries they can casually exploit without repercussions; how people have to travel further and further or rely on their local veterinarian for healthcare needs or emergencies; how farmlands are being scooped up by large corporations and how farm equipment is growing more proprietary so that even farming is becoming more expensive and difficultly competitive; how these towns are in the grasp of poverty, heavy drug use, and violence worse than "Chicago" or "Portland" or whichever favorite urban area is the topic of the day per capita. Their whole existence is ignored because it doesn't fit the "blue is bad" narrative that every corner of media picks from the low hanging fruit of what they consider news. San Francisco and NYC has ALWAYS had higher priced housing. Also, SF is only about 45 sq miles & bumps up against hills and a buttload of water. It's full. NYC shares the same land issue. You can only put so much on finite land. In NYC, they're building upwards, but for the wealthy. A higher population means higher taxes, higher crime rates, more homelessness, etc., but it also means more prosperity, higher wages, more benefits. So, people who are bigger risk takers tend to move to these places where they can gamble it all and win the most. People have always been nomadic here in the States - even in pre-colonial times. You go where the resources are. Back then, it was food. Post reconstruction, it was jobs without the overt racism. In the 50s onward, it's suburban sprawl & self-segregation. Now, it's affordability & remote jobs. Elderly move from NYC to FL. A lot of people move where either the weather is suitable (for them), the jobs are plentiful, or where they feel culturely "safe". While a great many wouldn't move at all. There are also individuals who have been forced to move, whether it's due to violence, govt actions, or acts of nature. There are plenty of "red" people in "blue" states like California - where Reagan and Arnie were governors, and plenty of "blue" people in "red" states like Texas where Houston and Austin make it purple at best/worst if not for gerrymandering. People who move from/to places solely for politics are more of the problem than the solution. Politics is abstract, it's an ideal, it's a construct. It would be like moving out of an area because you don't like the state flag, lol. Most are moving to better enrich their lives. When corporations do it, it's "business savvy". We live in a capitalist society. The same applies for people. No one cares what political corner you believe in. People are just trying to survive snd do what's best for themselves and their kids.

If everything is so great and that all reasons given are lies, than why are they leaving? It's the bureaucracy that forces people to leave. Because it take ten years to approve a building and then have the project cancelled because the shadow it casts interfere with a playground.

You get what you vote for...

Doesn't texas actually have relatively high taxes too, just in property tax as opposed to income tax (which is unconstitutional in texas?)?

not just taxes, but taxes that doesn't go where they were supposedly being used as they were meant to be used. i.e. check the crooked politician's offshore Swiss bank accounts.

They leave primarily due to lower costs of living… or so they hoped. Then they find the schools lacking and recurring costs like utilities and insurance to be significantly higher than they hoped, but are now stuck being priced out of their previous coastal state.

U get what u voted for. Plz dont ruin other state

As a NYer, this is why I have considered it: -my property taxes in Nassau County, Long Island, NY are absolutely insane and it’s going towards ridiculous projects -Manhattan’s DA has lowered the crime rate by not prosecuting crimes. He likes criminals rather than law abiding tax payers -remote work means I don’t have to stay here **And the kicker: our governor has declared that dismemberment is not a violent crime worthy of bail..that is ridiculous and insanity After my kid is done with high school, if nothing changes, I will be leaving

Because they don’t want to suffer the consequences of their actions

"they are so soft on crime that people have stopped talking about it." That's an interesting way to look at this discrepancy.

I wish more of the Californians moving to red states would appreciate the culture that attracted them to their new home and acclimate to it. Otherwise, they're moving their problems with them and turning their new homes into the mess they moved away from. I saw this in my home state.

Weird how you think you debunked the crime cause using stats, but couldn't tell the most obvious problem with using that data. Police and enforcers in these "soft-on-crime" states don't even bother arresting or acting on smaller crime anymore so no reports are made. The vast majority of smaller crime is now going completely unreported. Red state enforcers on the other hand, do something once the line is crossed which is why even with Texas's higher $2500 petty crime limit, if you cross that, you are actually going to face consequences instead of being arrested and out without cost less than 24 hours later.

People moving to better opportunity only to vote the same policies their original state had... :/

Perhaps California could do for poorer people what some states do for rich corporations: offer low or no taxes for a certain time period. Watch thousands of poor to middle class folks flood to California to have no state income tax and no local property tax.

In tennessee, we view california as a foreign strange place. Like it isnt even America.

I think he’s partially right but at the same time I think he’s downplaying some of the things. Just to linger on one point that he said just so this comment wouldn’t be super long . Crime. San Francisco own local government has come out about the safety of its employees because of the crime. District attorneys and Mayors have been put on recall because of crime. Let alone the amount of stores and some cases hotels that left because of crime. I.e. in and out burger and the Hilton.

“Louisiana, Arkansas, these are red states with high crime rates.” And where is the crime located at in these localities? Blue areas with lots of ethnic minorities.

The problem is your measuring crime. Most instances of shoplifting aren’t even reported in Cali or nyc. Murders and property crime do not parallel, that’s buffoonish.

The only times I was attacked or saw people shooting up drugs in public, was in the city. I prefer living in the suburbs, but I'd prefer a ranch in the middle of nowhere more.

GDP per capita cannot accurately describe the situation. If you live next to Warren Buffett or Jeff Bezos in the middle of nowhere, are you going to worth billions of dollars?

I think this channel realized how much ADREV can be made by appealing to right wing viewers lol real original.....

If I were a remote worker I would go live in a stable developing country where the average wage is USD 2-3 a day. You could save 90% of you salary and retire early.

blue missouri???

6:30 - “does not consider theft below $950 as a felony” This is NOT necessarily the problem. The problem is liberal prosecutors are declining to prosecute theft in Democrat controlled localities… and for this reason Police do not want to put their lives & bystander lives at risk in arresting criminals who will not be prosecuted. This is the problem in many US Democrat run localities. The liberals targeted the prosecutor roles in the Democrat controlled areas via elections, to short-cut & liberate themselves from the legislative laws [democratically elected by citizenry], the judicial system [who guarantees rights of the accused], the executive branch law enforcement [who puts their lives at risk in place of innocent civilians.] It was an insidious action by liberals, to exploit a portion of the system which was designed to provide mercy for exceptional cases, by making the exception the rule. These Democrat prosecutors are evil, at their core.

Yes. The plainly obvious reason is remote work. Higher population drives higher cost of living, because more demand for less space equals greater costs. This drives local salaries higher as well. If people have an opportunity to earn California wages under flyover-state cost of living, they will jump at it.

Suspecious that he didnt talk about one other very big factor, a certeny "type" of "people" which make living there dangerous and hell

You use Louisiana as an example of a red state with high crime, but you also fail to mention that New Orleans, the “murder capital” of the state has a solid Democrat government; the city council is 7 of 7 Democrat and they have elected a Democrat as Mayor every election since 1872.

I've had my rental car broken into twice in the week I was visiting California. Before that, I had never had my car broken into in my life. To pretend that California has more crime than tough on crime states like Florida is bullshit and the only reason Texas has a high crime rate is because it shares a border with Mexico, a fact which was completely ignored in your video. Furthermore, all the cities in red states you have named as exemples of cities with higher crime rates than blue states are cities ran by blue mayors, so it is a problem of soft on crime policies.

Poor people should get relocation assistance to move out if expensive stars. CA and NYC don't have adequate infrastructure to handle more housing.

Wow you sure are desperate to help slow Joe aren’t you. “Republican state bad democratic state good” says the foreigner who has nothing to lose

It’s because they don’t enforce their laws not because of the laws as written.

This guy is the definition of fake news, or news twisted in such a way you think the opposite. A true manipulator. Each video is worse and worse than the previous

Property crime is higher in blue stats, Red states like Carolinas, Mountain States (MT/ID/UT), and West Virginia have less violent crime too than NY/CA/WA/OR/IL

Like locusts they destroy their environment then flee to new grounds to destroy repeat ad infinitum.

Maybe make a video on if these people migrating out of blue states still lean left and how their votes will affect how the states they emigrated from and immigrated to will vote in future elections

Too much regulation. We need both conserving force and innovative force. Flordia is an example of too much Conserving force and Cali is an example for too much innovative force. Having more of one than the other just leads to negative outcome.We need each other polarization will destroy us. \

The 2 different parties are like deciding weather to put the toilet paper on the front or back and never agree to a final decision 😆

Whether something is classified as a felony or misdemeanor isn't really critical the concept of whether a state is tough on crime. It is whether prosecutors are willing to prosecute and whether they are willing to put people in jail or prison. Going to jail for a year for stealing $2000 worth of crap, isn't worth it, unless you are pretty sure you'll get away with a number of times.

He brought up red states with high crime rates but left out that these states are dominated by one huge blue city. Example such as New Orleans in Louisiana.

People are shocked they actually need to pay for the social programs they voted for

Gas lighting BS.

9:00 Can't businesses sue the state for lost revenue from theft if they refuse to prosecute under $900? Perhaps a giant class action lawsuit of $400 billion would get the govt's attention to reverse this dangerous precedent. Might as well pass a law saying if you murder less than 3 people, you won't be prosecuted. But don't you dare murder that 4th person.

As usual this content just devolves into agenda-laden nonsense, gotta unsub

When the hell did Americans forget that RED is the international colour of the LEFT? (Answer: 2000 Presidential election when some twit at CBS news said, "Hey, you know what will be easy for Americans to remember...? _'R' for 'red'; 'R' for 'Republican'."_ )

Joke is most will move out but still vote for the socialists.

You are not breaking down the crime statistics correctly. In Texas the cars are not getting broken into every day and the shops are not getting ransacked.

Oh, I think otherwise, all be it related. Jobs are moving from blue states to red ones, particularly to evade unionized labor (just look at Boeing) and people follow.

Last straw, with your smug bs.. unsubscibing

Many years ago I moved to San Francisco after college to find a job. One of my previous housemates had already moved there, so I moved in and we split the cost of his tiny apartment. Anyway, I would get up early every morning to go for interviews which meant going to bed by the lastest 10 or 11pm. One night I had trouble sleeping because of a group of hippies hanging out under my first floor window playing their drum at 1 in the morning. So I went out there to ask them to keep the volume level to a minimum. One thing led to another and before I knew it, I was engaged in a long conversation about their lives, why they're homeless, what they're doing in SF, etc. This is what they told me: most of the homeless people in SF actually do not come from SF. The vast majority of them are out of state residents who consciously decided to come to San Fran because 1) the mild weather: it's not too hot and not too cold so you can very comfortably sleep outside, 2) the benefits: they get a monthly allowance from the State of CA as homeless individuals, 3) the soup kitchens: SF is dotted with soup kitchens which serve them free meals, 4) the healthcare: they get free healthcare from the state of CA, and 5) acceptance: the people of CA are pretty accepting of them and they aren't being harassed or forced to leave like they are in their home states. One guy came from NYC, another one came from Chicago, etc. They told me, why live on the streets in the freezing cold in Chicago when you can enjoy the mild, year-round weather of San Francisco? In addition many US cities give these homeless guys free bus tickets to anywhere in the U.S. just to get rid of them, and they almost always ask for bus tickets to SF. Unlike many other states, they also get free healthcare in CA. Just go to any public hospital and as long as you can't pay, the state (meaning California taxpayers) picks up the bill. They were actually making fun of me for getting up early in the mornings going to job interviews. They live a great life on the streets, get cash from the State of CA for being homeless, get free food and free healthcare plus they can sleep in the park whenever they want to, wherever they want and they can't be forced to leave. These guys don't see themselves as victims and were actually HAPPY to be homeless in San Fran and said they wouldn't give it up for the world. That little chat REALLY opened my eyes!

lololol. the left wing bias is super strong here

So let me get this straight. You avoid taxes by moving to a place called...Taxes.

Moved to Texas from Canada fkn love it

Oh. no views yet. nice

Also the crime rate in red / blue states is not accurate either since most crime in red states happens in blue counties. If you exclude the blue cities in red states the crime is concentrated in pockets of concentrated blue cities.

This story has been over for 6 months now, Austin is now seeing people leave to go back to California. It’s been reversing for a while now.

And it looks like the Governor of California will be replacing Biden! It's going to be such a show!

A lot of times it takes seeing to believe, I moved to Nashville from Louisiana. Within my first 6 months I met 14 women, 7 from Illinois, 3 from California, 1 from Massachusetts and 3 from Tennessee. The exodus is real.

Unsubbed. This is a lying channel.

Adding to the point about housing costs - There are hundreds of abandoned and/or dilapidated buildings that could easily improve the crisis all over the country.. but governments and real estate groups refuse to renovate those buildings in favor of constructiing ridiculously expensive luxury neighborhoods instead

You are really comparing apples with pears when discussing crime. I suspect that you see something very different if you e.g. look at crime level trends rather than just current levels, if you compare CA with TX, or if you compare big cities rather than the states as a whole. The US rural society of the south, where government was weak, and traditional society was largely based on owning big herds of animals which could rapidly get stolen if you weren't prepared to shoot first to defend your property, is violent. Professor Richard E. Nisbett describes this in Culture of Honor: The Psychology of Violence in the South (Westview Press, 1996). This kind of Southern violence will hardly impact the people from California who settle in Houston or Dallas.

Louisiana and Arkansas have high crime rates because of New Orleans, Baton Rouge, Shreveport, Little Rock, Pine Bluff, and West Memphis.

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Fleeing blue states? Get real. Nebraska, Iowa, South Dakota, North Dakota, Louisiana, Missouri, and Alabama have become women's health care deserts as doctors are leaving because they don't want to be told how to treat their patients and risk losing their license, being charged with a felony, and up to 10 years in prison. A doctor, who grew up in Nebraska and has a clinic there, told how other doctors have left the state because draconian abortion laws. He said it's become difficult finding recent medical school graduates who are willing to come to Nebraska and neighboring states for women's healthcare. He also pointed out that emergency clinics are not equipped to deal with some problems regarding pregnancy because gynecology and obstetrics are specialities. You know, specialities - like heart surgery, brain surgery, orthopedic surgery, eye surgery, etc. Some of his patients have to drive hours to his clinic and he's worried about women who have a sudden emergency and can't get there in time. It's blue states that have good healthcare, good schools, some of the top univerisities, good communities, good infrastructure, good hospitals, and so on. I'm originally from Michigan and not only is it a good state for education, employment opportunities, affordable housing, and so on, it's also one of the most beautiful places in the world with the Great Lakes.

Looking at crime stats by states is meaningless. We compare stats by where criminals are arrested and prosected. That's done at the local level, and all of the Red states with high crime rates have large Democratic run cities. AR=Little Rock...LA.=New Orleans.... TN=Memphis.... GA=Atlanta

Our little city Cumberland MD has gone from housing glut to shortage in 5 years. Most of the influx is from within the state and remote workers with much higher incomes than the locals had before. Hopefully this correction will help turn around other post industrial towns and cities.

You guys missed a BIG one. Climate change. Many Californians have also "fled" to states like Minnesota, with less severe & less frequent natural disasters. Not to mention housing crisis os terrible everywhere nowadays. Partly due to not enough skilled workers to build homes as many left the industry after the 2008 recession like my husband did. Also, MN last voted Republican in 1972 for Nixon, & was the only state in the union to vote Democrat in Reagan's election for a second term in 1984... but the Democratic candidate was from MN so😅

Another problem with California is that if you want to build a house, the companies that provide the materials and labor need to be LGTBQ friendly. So this creates monopolies because even if you have the cheapest materials, but you are not LGTBQ friendly, you can't sell you materials in California. California has a list of Sates where they will not do business with.

Nimbyism is very much NOT a Dem factor. I can point to many Rep suburb cities of Atlanta which have the same problem. Of course they can just "import" workers from elsewhere as they're not the size of San Francisco. So you can look for the same thing to spring up elsewhere. Florida is already having housing issues with their insurance problem.

You're ignoring the fact that California grew in population in 2023. Many of those same remote workers are coming back to the state because companies are requiring everyone to go back to the office.

Those issues exist, glad he showed crime is highest in the South. Glad they got to this at the end; The biggest reason people leave NY and California is the cost of living, specifically housing. Unless you're very successful in an industry that requires you to be in these places, you simply can't afford to live in anything bigger than a shoebox. Why stay in a city where you can never hope to buy a house if you can live in a mansion in Texas or the Midwest? Daycare and school is another major issue If San Fran can fix its NINBY problem and start actually building more housing quickly, all the other problems will become negligible

Cool Video ..... I am an American and I think you should be a little more specific. People aren't fleeing blue states they are fleeing BLUE CITIES ,there is a difference

Nothing new to me. I moved to a red state for cost of living back in the 80s. For the past 20+ years I've worked for a CA company. Nice pay but still have the low cost of living. The politics are embarrassing, but I've always stayed away form politics.

Cost of housing. Period. And these guys are clueless as it is not about San Fran - but entire Silicon Valley / Bay Area. Crime is an issue only if you can't afford a better neighborhood. Lifestyle, community and other important parts of living are unmatched outside of the Bay Area for many - but not all - people. Weather is better. Also, schools kind of suck. But they are no better in Texas. The people leaving are the ones that haven't won the stock option jackpot and are still trying to rent.

USA needs Chinese style "Hukou" where the locals have strong disincentive for problems in their own provinces and cannot change the boat easily. It makes much more sense in USA (than China) as Americans exercise their voting rights to create perma-blue States, and hence should also suffer from the misery it creates.

I do not believe for a second that people move because of higher taxes, after all, they get something in return for it, from better roads to a library to a better safety net. If taxes were an immigration magnet, the Nordic, Germany and the Netherlands were emptied out. Crime is a factor, but only when it is violent and visible. People start moving, however, when housing is unaffordable or when there is a housing crisis. The second reason is the lack of job opportunities and the cost or availability of affordable healthcare. Of course, the GOP spin doctors will come up with tax, immigration and crime. They are lazy and they always do.

It's just not the high taxes, cost of living & housing cost but also alot places have built comercial real estate around the tech industry that. So when workers move away alot of office buildings tend to become unnecessary or too costly. Another issue is how decriminalization of drugs, theft & bail reform has been handled. Throw in Progressive Judges & DAs who don't deal with the worst case of theft, burglary & shoplifting. Finally there is all of this in top of demoralizing effect that defunding the police had on recruitment & law enforcement.

It's mostly housing costs. Even the taxes (as bad as they are) aren't as big a deal as financing a $900K house (the average home price in California). And those costs are high because blue states have an unholy alliance between urbanists, environmentalists, and labor unions (all key voting blocs for the Democratic party) that ensures that few houses get built and what does get built is very expensive. The whole neighborhood review thing they've implemented is one tool these people use but even that is really only a problem because the growth management laws they've implemented basically require most new development to happen in pre-existing neighborhoods rather than on empty land on the fringe (where most red state regions do most of their new construction). With that said, if California's taxes are comparable to France or Sweden then that's just pathetic because for ordinary people the level of government benefits in California are nowhere comparable to what you'd get in either of those countries. It's not even appreciably better than what you'd get in most other US states.

I’ve lived in rural, suburban, and urban California, now live in The Town. There are crimes everywhere and of course you are more likely to see it with a larger population. I’d rather take a bad day in the urban core than a good day in the suburbs or rural areas. There’s just more services and providers. As a local I see mainly NIMBYism and bureaucracy as the main cause of lack of housing. you can build all the housing you want, but if there is no work, services, or transport you end up in Antioch.

Just wondering about the Texas homicide rates: Accroding to stats from 2022 Texas has the about the same rate as California per 100.000 residents. Also according to several stats from statista Texas has a lower rate for citis >250k residents. Where do this stats come from, that texas has higher homicide rates?

As the presenter or commenters say "but the real facts are...", remember we're talking about perceptions, not facts. Yes, crime is lower in blue states, but the assumption is it's highest in big cities, which tend to be run by Democrats. It's not that I don't believe the people saying property taxes or insurance are expensive in Florida and Texas, but people really only think of income taxes when they think of taxes, and I doubt anyone thinks of insurance when considering moving to another state. It's logical if --- IF --- you stop to consider that if there are no state income taxes, they still have to pay for things, so other taxes are going to be really high. I recall being amazed by the costs of a trip to Florida a few years ago, and it was all sales and excise taxes. I like my blue state where we have state income taxes, but property taxes are a lot lower, and our housing costs are middling.

I'm going go have to disagree with, NM isn't a republican state and Louisiana had a high violent crime. If you go to FBI crime watcher and change it to personal property California number sky rocket and has had the highest of property damage and personal theft in the last 3 years.

6:30 let's see it by municipal government as well... Illinois and New York are great examples of places where the vast majority of the geography of the state is relatively conservative, crime rates are low, etc., but there is a city that is on the complete polar opposite of the political spectrum with terrible crime, terrible taxes, and terrible leadership.

lol republicans state turn blue all the time, Texas and Florida Will turn blue at some point. There are very few major cities that are republican.

Interesting insights and video, I enjoyed it. However, I don't feel like you've managed to debunk crime as a reason just because you proved that the petty crime limit is actually higher in Texas than is San Francisco, and that is because this law is a tool that should be applied where it is needed. If store owners have to keep toothbrushes locked on the shelves, and the local government doesn't address this state of affairs, what's more, acts the opposite way, this might very easily add to the list of reasons why people want to leave that place.

The issue is that California became "too desirable" and housing prices became inflated. But because no one wants to see their investments devalued they are not going to sell for less. You see this even more in the commercial real estate space, where landlords will leave their buildings boarded up rather than rent them for less than market value. Also you have the wealthiest cohort (the ones who can afford houses) in the baby boomers. And they are pretty much all leaving the workforce. So on mass they are going to look to retire somewhere that their dollar goes further.

If you decriminalize everything you will on paper show that there are no crimes being committed in your community. That does not mean that there are less crimes being committed as any sane community would define it. They have been playing another game with the number as well. If you have a 15-20% increase in violent crime for a couple years straight, you can then have a 15% decrease on that new high number and still have violent crime be way higher than it was a few years ago. They have played at people's ignorance for understanding statistics to say that violent crime is going down, when it is still way higher than it was 4 years ago.