@Lance Hewison OMG!!! I said the same thing to a few people. That would be so cruel. I know for fact they are gathering data as to what sells & what doesn't in a crisis. 🤔
Yes - this does feel like an experiment. But I think we are failing as human beings but we are behaving exactly as the "experimenters" believed we would.
A lady in the line next to me at a 99Cents store, gave me her package of toilet paper, when she saw that I walked over to the tp display and it was empty. She said she didn't want to be a horder. Human kindness, given freely to a stranger.
BEAUTIFULLY SAID! People we must realize we are a COLLECTIVE and without others...we simply don't exist in life as we know it. Give it up for people like this man speaking to an audience of empty chairs for the common interest if humanity as a collective. This was awesome!!!!!
I was actually surprised that the the entire auditorium was empty. Then again, social distancing. I applaud the team for the effort just to educate us online viewers.
@@NadaVerse nah people have plumbing and water treatment but not paper. it's more like metal forks vs. disposable chopsticks. one way you waste trees the other you don't
I'll be honest. I bought some toilet paper in anticipation of what was coming. I bought ONE 18 roll pack people.... ONE. I bought it 2 weeks sooner than I normally would have... but it was only ONE. Ok guys? I also bought 2 bottles of hand sanitizer and left some on the shelf. This was more than I usually buy, but I bought just two. I didn't rent a freaking U-haul, get my brother to help me, and buy out all grocery stores (and non-grocery stores that carry it) in half my state (like a certain someone did recently).
That’s what it feels like - like being at a dinner party and everyone is knocking each other over grabbing the last dessert but there’s a whole cake in the kitchen.
@@orangewarm1 Well, it's more like a few people are grabbing ALL the desserts, many more than they could need or want, and people who were in the other room helping with the coffee came out to find no desserts, no sugar, no plates, no flour, no bread, nothing! Better yet, make that the main course, and the rest were left to starve. Thanks a lot, greedy people!
Fear. That's it, nothing else. People just begin running around with no idea where they are going. If you ever been in even a small earthquake people just start running with no where to go.
The same thing happens when I spray fire ant mounds with ant killer. It's kind of like watching MSDNC... they attack everything angrily... except themselves, of course. Which I guess is one way you can tell the Democrats and MSM are largely from the same nest.
@@iloveamerica1966 I am not a democrat so I can see the following: both the Leadership of both parties are Millionaires so both are looking out for their people. It is no happenstance that neither believe everyone deserves medical care nor proper education. Neither believe the general population should have access to the American dream. Living wages, home, and a decent life style. No matter if you work two or three jobs, rent or mortgage are unattainable. Go Team!
We have the Virus and didn’t need any extra toilet paper. (Didn’t buy extra btw). We did get soup and dried beans! Thankful because we are on day 10 of our lockdown, can’t go out. We are posting daily up dates. Stay in, stay safe and think about helping others!!! This is a great opportunity to reset!!!!
But you didn't adress the main question: Why TOILET PAPER out of all things? It's not like all the canned food is disappearing first? WHY TOILET PAPER? I feel like I'm talking CRAZY PILLS HERE! Is nobody else noticing how weird it is? TOILET PAPER? You're adressing why people are hording in general, which is more understandable. But TOILET PAPER? Compared to food it's the least necessary purchase in a pandemic! It makes no sense. Why is nobody answering this question? I'm so angry...
Pretty sure people thought that most toilet paper comes from China and hat it would run out since china wasn't making any? Then it just spread over the world
I don't know either but it seems to be comfort and control. As people losing both, including what they were able to do, TP is the only thing and comfort they don't want to run out of. I still don't get why they need 5 years worth of supplies but it's TP on sale for the foreseeable future which I'm not against.
My guess is it started with one person going nuts and buying all the toilet paper. Then everyone else panicked and started doing the same. Others have also mentioned we've been told to avoid going out for weeks so people are going to need a lot more than they did previously. Whereas I spent most of my day at work, I would have been using their toilet paper most of the time. Now I'm home all day so I'm using my own supply. What is strange though is most of the food supply has gone back to normal but kleenex, paper towels, and toilet paper are still 100% gone. lol
I had a similar thought. Perhaps that just works to illustrate the point though. CEOs, Executives, politicians...these are all people who have made their way to positions of wealth and power and then leverage that to take even more wealth and power for themselves and their buddies. They know that wealth comes at the expense of faceless others but they don't care because they have no real connection to those others.
@@randomstuff-qu7sh The government doesn't shame and regulate them though do they. We lead by example. People are just acting in the way that the authorities sub-consciously tell them is acceptable... Nay rewardable.
I hope their can be a follow-up to this talk. He identified what the problem was (bad actors) and explained why we are producing/becoming them as a society (affluence to individualism to self-isolation/silo-ing/disconnection). But he did not provide his thoughts on how does a society shift over to feeling apart of a collective game. This is arguably the most crucial piece of the puzzle.
@C T Except that, there are still a few who don't get it... There are some stories about teens/college students partying together on the beach for spring break...
FYI: there is some info left out about the chap that was punching the airline seat of the woman in front of him. She reclined her seat during mealtime, he asked her to wait until he finished his food - she waited five minutes and then reclined fully, spilling his food an drink all over him. He was over 6 feet tall and had a seat at the rear bulkhead that didn’t recline. I’m not taking sides, but y’all should know the facts.
Indeed. Thank you. So, writing the talk was like trying to hit a moving target. I was editing it up until the night before. And, it’s hard to memorize all the changes in a few hours. I forgot part and left out my entire point about that story! Just forgot it. The airline is the bad actor because it created the context in which both people behave badly, by jamming as many people into each flight as possible to maximize profits. I wish I had known what you’ve added to the story because it actually illustrates the point! Zero sum games hide the bad actor! Thank you for your comment.
@@TheHackHJ Yep, even though this point was missed, I understood what you're trying to put forth. Hope that's the way with everyone else. A very good talk nevertheless.
@@TheHackHJ One more thing, there is a comment on here my Markus A. That's a very valid question and I want to know the answer. Could you please take a look at that?
@@TheHackHJ How exactly is the airline the bad actor? At one point in time the seats were larger. People wanted cheaper and cheaper tickets. New budget airlines came out and offered less of everything, including space for a lower price. People bought that. Airlines still offer business and first class seating for those that want to pay more not to be treated like chattel. When enough people play the zero sum game and buy the lower ticket, you get the conditions that lead to that fight. The airlines that played the collective game went out of business. There are many bad actors that lead to those conditions. The airline simply had to react or go out of business. Thinking that it is always the business fault is dissociative behavior.
I down voted it because it plays into the idea that if I go to a store right now and buy a month’s worth of toilet paper for my family of 5 I will be demonized as a hoarder when in fact we always buy toilet paper a month at a time. The only people who could possibly like this are probably regretting not being more prepared for hard times.
@@nocollarcrypto8851 good for you. my theory is also that it is not so much people hoarding it's just that everyone bought at the same time. And yeah, I have three month supply of food and water laid in. Not worried about toilet paper though. I was in the Army for 8 years lol that was often a luxury. I'm like figure it out people hahaha.☮️💖 Staying home in Tulsa, Oklahoma🇺🇲👢
@@nocollarcrypto8851 I do not believe the intent was to somehow demonize you for purchasing the supply you need as you normally do. Over the last four years I have also amassed a good supply of necessities such as food and toiletries and cleaning supplies simply because such is my habit. I try to keep a minimum of 3 to 5 weeks worth of frozen or canned foods simply because it is my habit to make sure that for whatever reason I may be unable to resupply (a fine example is the current crisis), I will be fine for at least a month. Of course, I grew up pretty poor and my mother was an ex-military wife with PX privileges and five children. We went to the base for PX shopping once a month and got everything we needed to not starve for at least 30 days. She bought half gallon cartons of whole milk and put them in the "deep" freezer to keep them from spoiling before the end of the month. All my siblings learned how to not go hungry and to plan and to be frugal from her and our situation. It is still my habit over 50 years later. I know Dr Hacker well as I consider him to be one of my two very best friends. I know his intent was not to demonize anyone, but to simply offer an explanation from the social science perspective of the current situation. He surely was not trying to point a finger or pass judgement on any particular person, and certainly not without knowing the individual circumstance that anyone is facing. Just trying to explain an anomaly we can all see in the social fabric that binds us all as one group of humans trying to keep the whole group going and supporting that fabric and those humans as a whole group. Of course, he said it far more eloquently than I, but that is why he gets those "big bucks" they so generously lavish upon professors in public universities (can you hear the sarcasm in that last statement? I wish there was a sarcasm font!) I am quite certain he did not intend to offer any slight to you personally or otherwise contribute to any demonizing of anyone, except for maybe those zero sum game players we all know and even then not individually, particularly, or otherwise personally identifiable! [For more on my love and use of the Oxford comma please see O'Connor v. Oakhurst Dairy, No. 16-1901 (1st Cir. 2017)] :-)
@@nocollarcrypto8851 There is no toilet paper shortage. If people continued buying toilet paper as they normally do as you say you are then every one would have plenty of toilet paper. 100,000,000 people or more (mostly white people) panicked and went way outside of there normal purchasing. Even if every American had bought 3 or 4 times as much TP as normal we should have plenty. There are millions of irrational freaks out there. One has to wonder why you are so defensive that you downvote a video and then respond to a comment. If you are just buying the same amount of toilet paper you always buy it wasn't about you at all. The fact that you take offense and act like it is offensive that someone encourages cooperation over selfishness it really says something about you.
Great and very illuminating talk! Hopefully a lot of people watch this and realize that the bad actors are trying to get us to fight among ourselves instead of fixing the source of our problems, them.
For the amount of toilet paper being hoarded, this video should have waaaaay more views. The ONLY reason I was FORCED to go to the store was due to all the panic buying people did. Heath Ledger Joker was correct. Our civility is a sham. Once the "system" breaks down, it's every man for themself.
This man put into words what I've believed for a long time. There is a small cadre of psychopaths who know how to divide us in a way that we're all competing against one another, while worshipping the people who are actually destructive. People have to open their eyes and see who's really the problem, so that those people no longer derive power from us all.
People in a state of fear default to base emotions/actions: buying stuff. It’s how they’ve been trained. Worker/consumers or ideologues of any kind are linear thinkers.
It was the two people in the plane lacked the skills and patience to negotiate a mutually solution. Perhaps they where both distraught and out come of their mutual
This pandemic has highlighted for me what a greedy , selfish species we are ,how ultimately the only way we will beat this is thinking of others when we buy food, and only get what we need for a week say, my hope is the greedy people will realise like the decent amongst us, collaboration wins the day.
Wearing a mask is for the benefit of others. It is so obvious now what % of the population is selfish and unwilling to help others, just a little bit. Just look around when you go out.
He describes in wonderful detail what our enemies are attempting to exploit through social media in order to further harm and tear apart our country from the inside.
Indeed. I have no issue with responsible gun ownership, but people buying up weapons out of panic thinking that they're going to be Rambo if some looter breaks in do make me worry.
To many dystopian stories and fear mongering added to a lack of critical thinking. Now we see many competing for a Darwin award at the cost of other's lives. Stay in, stay well and flatten the curve. 👍💕
@@randomstuff-qu7sh getting tired of hearing the word panic. A 3 month supply of food and water is not hoarding, and buying a weapon after the police have said they're not going to answer 9-1-1 calls, it's just good common sense boss.
My "easy" explanation (as this happend to some degree everywhere around the world) was people buy things they were told to have stocked at home for any kind of system breakdown.(And as we have lots of strange people who even buy the shops empty if there's a long weekend or a holiday, just as if the shops close for weeks this was just the same) With toilet paper specifically my guess was: if there's a shortage of food, the authorities will try to avoid starving and feed the people (at least in my country this would be the case) but nobody expects them to provide toilet paper... Or the shorter one: maybe they mistook the symptoms of a flu with the symptoms of stomach flu...
Now I understand the psychology behind the social behavior right now. It is very disturbing to see so many empty shelves, and older people get no chance of stocking stuffs. It is sad, indeed, to realize that we live in a society where people unconsciously play zero sum game.
Great talk! I like to connect! It feels right to me. Not with anyone but selectively so it may turn into a friendship or not. I want to be treated well so I treat others well.
I don't think you know what "basic needs" mean. TP is a luxury. (unless you've lived a very privileged life) In times like these, if people most fear that they run out of toilet paper in a house with running water, that is the definition of sociopathic first world problems 🙈
I love that in apocalypse movies, when the survivor is running past stacks of money lying on the street. A massive reserve of money is only useful when you have someone to lord it over or when you can punish people for having less than you. I still don't see how having toilet paper can be considered a survival strategy. It is indicative of people that their priorities are all messed up, convenience over substance.
Unfortunately, advertising to a large degree encourages competing with, and being better than your neighbor. Whether it's having a better lawn, a nicer house, a cooler vacation, a bigger TV, a better body, a nicer car, a higher credit score, you must must must beat your neighbor.
The "bad actor" and scarce resources modes of thinking as presented make for a much clearer, logical, critical thinking approach to conflict. Furthermore, I believe that it's important to have a small local community mindset and attachment. Meet the neighbours and build up the greater community on top of that. In Christchurch, New Zealand where I am, the city council has allowed a BBQ subsidy for those planning small or large neighbourhood get-togethers. Wonderful to see the government encouraging the value of tight community at the low level.
I would love to live in a community like that. Here in the United States, its dog eat dog type of living. Unless you have family around, (which I do not have) you are isolated. I don't know why the US is like this. I am sure there are some communities that are not, but most are.
Revamp how we deal with resources. The financial system does not work for anyone but a small group. We must declare Earth's resources common heritage of all humanity and move to a resource based economy. When you research how current systems work and how broken they are you either want to see change or stop playing because it won't happen in your lifetime.
There are many reasons we use money as a medium of exchange instead of bartering. It's more efficient, easier to calculate, and easier to transfer directly for what we want. It's not always possible to trade a bushel of lemons for a roll of toilet paper. Maybe the guy with toilet paper doesn't want lemons. Maybe the guy who wants lemons doesn't have toilet paper to sell.
A great video which explains what everyone already knows what they should be doing but doesn't give any practical ways of changing the selfishness of the many. Each individual has to change as a whole to make it work. As soon as one person breaks away as in the Leroy Jenkins scenario ( I've never heard of this so can only guess at what he's talking about ) it falls apart. I'll relate how yesterday I was looking for a certain product that is in short supply and came across a similar product in another part of the store. This product is for infants. I picked it up and then thought to myself that it's more important for the people who really need this other than me and put it back but I can guarantee that the next person won't think like that and take it. Selfishness and social media needs to stop and community and self sufficiency needs to improve. Humanity is being tested and failing miserably.........
Altruistic, but, one could argue you are diminishing your self value... you feel you are not as important to keep healthy as somebody else's child. While that may be true, there is an entire spectrum of self-worth/societal value. At the far end you may have the CEO of a hospital, or a doctor, or a nurse, who feel that purchasing that product for themself to keep them healthy helps 1000 or 10,000 people.
people are hoarding resources this is a perfectly normal response to a threat of scarcity. Our brains understand that when chaos reigns civilizations get invaded or plagues happen our ancestors starved and died in mass. Today's modern economies have remedied that through modern ways of production and resupplying stores. Our brains were not developed in the modern era there still working on ancient hardware
Disassociated by virtue and as a result of their growing greed and fear of others asking them to share, be it the government, employees, family, friends or neighbors. Why people with less are happier. They're not afraid of loss because they have nothing to lose. But too much nothing (where more than 40% of Americans live) causes social strife.
People were stocking up on everything. TP is bulky. 3 months of TP takes up a lot of space, on store shelves, and in warehouses. Most people use TP, but not everyone likes the same kinds of foods, so stores would've had a much larger supply foods, than TP. It's no surprise that stores starting running out of TP, before they were running out of other things.
The airline IS the bad actor. So are shopping centers with tiny parking places that their customers and their customers' Insurance companies are paying out loads of money in deductibles and repair claims because the merchants want to pack a few more cars into the lot.
If you look at the list of symptoms of Coronavirus you will clearly see, right at the bottom, that in even mild cases, you are likely to develop at least one extra a-hole. This then makes the buying of extra toilet paper totally rational and completely understandable.
Wow, then there are double the usual number of a-holes in New York City... except for the infected ones that Mario Cuomo let go home to Long Island and Florida fast spreading the disease even further... because he was unwilling to issue a shelter in place order.
Thanks for explaining the psychology behind this behavior in such an understandable way, at a time when we need some sanity! I feel like our society in general has been heading in this disassociated direction for a long time. It's not surprising that we are where we are now.
Disagree with his notion of Collective versus Zero Sum when it comes to Covid 19. I am for the younger generation working because the long term effects of an economic depression will cause greater harm to the collective. Point being Collective vs Zero Sum can be a matter of perspective.
I was with Dr. Hacker until the last minute. I take it that the “bad actors” are those individuals who are playing a zero sum game, yes? And “We’re coming for you,” means what exactly? The “you” refers to the bad actors. The “We” is Dr. Hacker and those playing the collective game. But what does “coming for” mean? At the very least, it means identifying, but it implies inflicting punishment. What punishment?
@@markgreen6229 my strategy: find out what day the trucks come in at stores you go to. Also, I get up early, I'm always at the store when it opens. Good luck, stay safe.
It gave me chills to not hear the applause at the end... We’re all applauding you here at home!! Definitely one of the best TEDTalks I’ve seen. You are an excellent speaker, especially speaking to a auditorium of empty chairs- that truly takes talent. I hope to see more talks from you in the future :)
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Just a small thinking. The problem with teaching your own people to accept others is that no one ever thought about teaching those others to accept you. You were the villain trying to look nice. You still are that villain: you just changed your own people's culture.
Breaking News: a man's house caught fire and burned to the ground after his 4,000 rolls of toilet paper caught fire and he attempted to put it out with five gallon jugs of hand sanitizer.
There was a fistfight in a Woolworths in Australia between two or three women over toilet paper. So they sacrificed social distancing, putting themselves and others at risk, to get in each other’s faces and start throwing hands ...for toilet paper....Let that sink in.
Disconnection is definitely an issue - any residential area bigger than a village or a small town is almost entirely loaded with disconnected individuals. We don't have the time, energy, or emotional capacity to adopt so many thousands of people into our mental "village circle" (this being who we talk to, who we care about, who we would check on or provide food for, who we might help move or build a house, who we would take into our house if they were evicted, etc). We've made do with some kinds of patchwork via societal codes like chivalry or government threat of fines/imprisonment, but in a time of crisis a lot of people will abandon those... where a village will come together in a crisis, a city will fall into disarray.
Thank you so much for shining the light on the reason why. If one looks at this a little deeper it's the same as the 1% hoarding all the money. My source tells me there is a growing movement on Reddit to share the pie/Socialism in the US. The idea of perceiving all humans as family, will most likely end up as their slogan? You are my hero.
Its Greed, Greed Kills, Thats the whole problem, Rid the world of greed all other problems will cease. Hey Christians, isn't that what Jesus was all about!
I don’t take the whole pie but take all the pie I want. If others don’t get some it’s there problem. I’m not stocking up on toilet paper or sanitizer. When we cut the pie everyone is already full, today people are way over reacting and have gone crazy.
Or it could be people got word of a possible quarantine changing buying habits that had been predictable to something chaotic. Laying blame on the consumers by labeling them hoarders is not accurate. Blaming the supply chain would be equally as unfair. Are hospitals hoarding masks, or being prepared? Is the supply chain delivering life saving drugs negligent for underestimating? Do you really believe someone making their toilet paper purchase early makes them "Disconnected"? Deciding to purchase extra is cheating at "The Rules of a Game"? "You may be exploiting your position for your personal gain, but we are coming for you." That's some divisive rhetoric to end a supposed come together speech.
The answer is this. Toilet paper and hand sanitizer are out of supply. No one hoarded. The supply just has not met demand for Americans to get a month supply of what was needed. Simple as that.