Why Are People Mad About The Skin Color Of Natlan Characters? - Genshin Impact 

I don't know bro

Nah

they cooked with this one and i cant wait to beat something when THAT community start their hand drawing or 3D-ing video

Nah ppl are just doesn't understand the word "inspired", it's base on cultures not a carbon copy of them. + It's a video game breh 🤦‍♂️ this is just Sumeru all over again

No

Nahida still watches you as you sleep...

@@tozu777 yes.... yes I do

@@abdulrahmanzubairu8371 sir, this is a Wendy's When deez nuts hit yo mouth, hah! Got'em!

Bcs it is. Probably the last time

@@raihanrusli2720 I wouldn't be so sure. They could do what Honkai Impact did and make a part 2 just so they can disappoint us more.

Xinyan the only dark character we have 😅

@@BeastofMyselfand kaeya-

All the melanin was used to taken and given to the little mermaid and Cleopatra etc there's not much left.

@@BeastofMyself come on you can't forget Dehya, Cyno, Sethos, Candace

@@thedoctor1547 rosaria is as grey as a vampire ☠️ Wt kind of mutated melanin does she hv then?

Pov the dark ones are the enemi-

There are two, but the sales are not very good.

It's because dark skinned characters don't sell well in China and China is the main consumer of hoyoverse games. So they wanna keep their largest consumer base happy.

​@@bruhn3xus26 It's not a Chinese only game

@@ReiiRei_39 just enjoy the game

These are colonisers, not the natives bruh💀

@@MrDamojak no??

@@chimppower2748 🤡

Que importa el color de piel de un pixel?

@@Perritix porque no debe usar una cultura (para dinero) sin representado la gente (Español es no mi primero idioma)

Sumeru is based on Arabs and Sumerians. They are white. The blacks in these lands back then were slaves from other not Arabic nations and when a slave woman gets a child with a free man, the child would also be a slave so there was mixing until some time ago.

@@MafaAstralStore oh...? You're telling me, someone with a Pattani father and a Yemeni mother? Not to mention, my ex is from Mauritania... North Africa. I don't know who you're but sometimes ppl care, or ppl don't. And it doesn't matter which sides. My point is... Hoyoverse won't care, and same with any other ppl romanticizing my culture and religion, to the point where disrespecting it. That's why I said, I'm not surprised. Also, I did quit Genshin after sumeru. And I don't care about skin colour. What I care about is telling others abt our culture.

@@lyakiyomin9432 I know. I'm Syrian, and my mother is Arab. The game is based on them like 2000 years ago. If you see old paintings of them you would also see that they were not black. Now, after Islam, that has encouraged people to free slaves and to treat all people from all races equally, there has been a lot of mixing, but in general Arabs are white. In my old class in Syria, only 2 of my classmates were actually dark as in dark, not white, but just a little tan from the summer. Don't forget that most Arabs are Asian, not from North Africa.

@@MafaAstralStore that's true. In any case, I'm not particularly upset at the fact of the skin colour. But I'm assuming they're probably gonna generalise north Africa and south africa. Forgotting that ppl near Sahara are mostly Arab Berbers. And most Senegals and probably Somalis are not the typical Africans we see in mainstream medias. Hence, my point. It's not surprising.

@@MafaAstralStore boo brown people exist ooo so scary

that was a thousand years ago though

​@kaiseremotion854 hey my ancestors were black as me from a 1000 years ago lol

I mean, we didn't see the murata tribe in the trailer so they're probably saving them for later.

​@@Enclavefakesoldierearly Genshin trailer reveals every nation and their characters, and Natlan reveals the dark skinned kid. So a lot of people think Natlan characters will be like her too

@@fegito9206 oh didn't know that. I only got into the game in april.

Couldn't have said it better myself

They are racist. Does it make sence now?

why does it matter this much

@@charleswhitefullbusteruchi1972 so you like them boring huh...so weird

anime aesthetic

Wait no he DOES look like Sasuke nooo 😂😭😂

Nessa is so hot ong

Nessa>>>

Nessa was present because Pokemon is from a Japanese company. Same could be said for Fate who didn't hesitate to introduces characters like Ozymandias. But since Mihoyo is from China and the country is notorious for Censoring POC when they can, doubt we will have more characters with darker skin than Dehya or Candace.

Black characters are not attractive 😂

They also included best waifu Nitocris and Lakshmibai

@@peaismyrealname434? But volcanoes is. NOT what makes your skin dark? Wtf?

@@frgal1336 It's hot mud, possibly in a hot area leads to ashy skin. There are no cultures living near volcanoes though. It's just fantasy

EXACTLY

@@peaismyrealname434Wdym about the volcano part..?😭

​@@peaismyrealname434 u saying Iansan is dark because of the volcano ashes?

It's not hard to make them, it's hard to sell them. Many'a games and movies have found themselves in the toilet by being "A diversity dream"

​@@Yukito590 I genuinely don't see why that has to be an issue, when they would literally just be characters with different skin colors. Plus, the characters for Genshin Impact are usually really well designed. If anyone had a problem with a character the Genshin devs designed _solely_ because their skin was within the range of tan/brown/dark brown, then that's just embarrassing and maybe that person should learn more about the world that they're actually living in, and the skin colors of the human race that they're literally a part of.

@@Yukito590how do you know? Dehya and Candace would've sold much much higher if it wasn't for their terrible kits, even nobody hates Xinyan's personality they find her to be a sweetheart, but again Hoyo designed her with a terrible kits, 2 dark skinned characters with terrible kits? That's coincidence, now we got more than two? Plus Kaeya and Cyno having mediocre ones? Nah, they're just blatantly colorist at this point

Been trying to give them the benefit of the doubt all this time, and so many fans said we were overreacting for complaining, but it looks like we'll be making it thru the whole game with only white and slightly tan characters, it is messed up especially since some enemy npcs have darker skin.

People have made the new characters darker are they look so much better

@@gabrielbatista2899 The region is based on mesoamerican culture not Latino American which is distinctly different

@@Hunnibeeeatwr I know, it's on the same region where we are

oloran , for example is a Nigerian cultural figure whos name has been whitewashed and character. disgusting. changing culture is so wrong no matter what. its pure racism. if they cant stick to the culture dont use it. easy. its disrespectful to people who are apart of the culture and are offended , they have every right to be.

@@sunnystar707 The deity's name is Olorun btw. Idk why they had to change it to Ororon, it doesn't even roll off the tongue as well.. The Chinese, Japanese and Korean names are all close translations of "Olorun", English and the others are the only ones that changed it.. If I had to guess they wanted to keep the character separate from the namesake? But why bother naming it after such an important figure at all...

@@Syiepherze thx for letting me know , it’s highly offensive im so dissapointed , peoples cultural is being used and completely white washed , if they cant use real life culture correctly they shouldnt use it at all. especially during sumeru , i was disappointed as my culture was partially there too i felt like quitting. i deleted genshin im not going back till they give oloran his culture back and the other characters. if they cant do that im not going back it feels odd to play a game that white washes real life culture. they made olorun into a typical anime boy lmfao

@@Syiepherze Ororon in Yoruba means body oil, I'm Yoruba and I've been waiting for Natlan since forever just to see this? This was just disappointing😞

​@@sunnystar707I mean... Genshin Impact is a work of fiction after all, they're just inspired. No need to be so harsh. At least I think...

Yeah it's kinda like they're asking for it

CCP. There's your answer

I am the least racist person you'll meet, but they are blowing this way out of proportion and making people who are excited for it, feel guilty that they are!

same brother, I always tend to stay away from the community but even I wondering why

same bro I'm getting concerned now 😭

Thats literally the same thing as saying that minecraft is not including characters because glass is one of the blocks in minecraft and its made from the middle east and mojang isn’t including in any arab people which means that they’re being racist.

@@nibble2911 genshin literally has took the arab philosepher “al Haithem” an named a character off of him…an added French, german, japanese cuisine to its game… the raiden shogun is an actual storm god in actual Japanese legend…oni? ITTO IS AN ONI???? A JAPANESE DEMON??? Genshin does take HEAVY inspiration from irl cultures don’t sit here and pretend like it doesn’t, its a deliberate decision by hoyo Also mojang has dark skinned skins so this argument doesn’t even make sense, pretty sure you can even add your own custom skins and ad a hijab so- again not a proper argument

@@incognitospaghet1452 This isn’t a proper argument either. You just said “Pretty sure you can even add your own custom skins and add hijabs” If you say that so easily, how come YOU don’t take matters into your own hands and mod in your own inclusive characters into genshin? And that glass one is just an example. There are many games out there that use inventions and culture made by jews, russians, asians, and most of these games never feature asians or jews etc.. or properly represent the people who made those inventions. Why don’t you boycott the entire game industry then if you’e so hell bent on having culture and inventions that also include the race of the people who made them, because many games do that

@@nibble2911 issue is mojang never made it a point to add irl cultures into its game, in fact many game industries haven’t made this claim they just make their own world. Unlike genshin who made it a point to add REAL LIFE ((japanese, russian, french)) culture in the game. I don’t believe all games or even pieces of media need to represent culture but when the company makes a point to say and “follow through” ((using this loosely because they do add music architecture from other cultures excluding the people involved)) with adding in that culture. Mojang never stated or showed us that “adding in real world culture” was their purpose, sure they added real world elements but thats just how the game is. Genshin made a point to represent culture and has FAILED in doing so and we are holding it accountable for its claim. Also me commenting on it and not playing the game is me taking matters into my own hands what are you talking about? The issue here isn’t that “WAAAAHHH GENSHIN NEEDS TO BE INCLUSIVE WAHHHHH GAMES AND EVERYTHING I SEE NEEDS TO REPRESENT ME EXACTLY WAAAAHHHHH” Its “Why would you say and actively put in references, architecture, music, clothing, language ect. Of a culture in your game while consistently EXCLUDING the people involved? Why BOTHER representing a culture if you refuse to REPRESENT ITS PEOPLE”

@@incognitospaghet1452 so you’re telling me the issue isn’t that genshin should be more inclusive and the actual issue is that genshin should be more inclusive? Tf are you talking about? It seems to me that your whole issue is that you’re mad that cultures are not getting represented, and while I do think that its good to both represent culture and represent the people of the culture, you seem to JUST be looking at genshin. Take earthbound for example, there is a level called scaraba which is supposed to represent egypt. But in that level, the people there definitely do not look like average ancient egyptians, even though the level and its music is clearly taken from egyptian culture, but the people do not look egyptian There are many more levels out there that do take inspiration from other countries and cultures and not have their people represented well in the past, and guess what? Nobody complained about it. Why? Because its just a game.

No, the majority of players globally do not like dark skin characters. Hence, they will not spend money on dark skin characters. Dark skin characters cannot bring Hoyo revenues

@@mighty_cybermeg then why even bother using or moreover saying they're from a region inspired by places with dark skinned people? Even the Chinese fans were saying hoyo messed up with this

@@veridiansixx8681 Those fans have double standards most likely. They can literally say whatever they want in order to escalate the situation so it’d be more entertaining, or they are just simply unsatisfied with Hoyo in general. However, they are definitely not gonna spend one primo on dark skinned characters if Hoyo really takes their “advices”…

@@mighty_cybermeg Perhaps that is an impression from Chinese and Korean media Mihoyo adopted, but among Genshin's global player base, how much evidence do we have for that? How faired Kaeya, Xinyan, Dehya, Cyno, Candace, and Sethos? (I know Dehya was criticized for her kit, but so were many others not listed above.)

I am from a hot damn country too, and I'm not tanned....🙄

@@Soul__soup these gods are still worshipped here in brazil. We have seasonal parties, rituals, we pray and we practice spells in their name. It just feels very disrespectful, yknow? This wouldn't ever be a discussion if we were a developed country. It's just rude.

Yeah but it’s game 🙃

They made a GOD white?@@epictoe7179

@@epictoe7179That still doesn’t fucking mean they can whitewash whoever Hoyoverse wants, it’s removing representation in their games.

yesssss nigerian king ❤️❤️🙏

They also mix these characters as if they are just basic names instead of culture-representing gods. For example, "Mavuika" is based on a Māori god, but she looks like a biker with Aztec and Mayan influences.

"Teyvat has it's own rules" Genshin stans would probably said

@@pistonfrythe rules in question : only white ppl are allowed

@@pistonfry yep seeing it everywhere too. Its infuriating because the people who complain abt the issue is still technically the minority, (The loud minority, but still isnt enough to make a difference.)

​@@pancrepe5576 no, she looks like a character from Guren Lagan.

right like genshin d riders are missing the point 😭 we don’t care if you don’t have darker skin characters in your little “anime game”, just don’t use our cultures, get it wrong, disrespect them, and then try to make a profit because they know their fan base is largely neckbeards that don’t gaf. “it’s just a game” but white americans would lose their absolute shit if they created a character based jesus and made him look like shit. i play a shit ton of asian gacha games and i don’t gaf if they don’t have characters of other cultures BECAUSE they aren’t using and disrespecting them.

@@ssereniity__ I agree.

@@ssereniity__ the biggest lie you could have told yourself buddy

@@RyuHayabusaD please tell me you’re joking

@@SparkOfCuriosity I 100% mean what I said There is zero problem with what the game did stop complaining we all know you still are gonna play it when it drops And again this is only a problem for you because the characters are white and not black please get help

Even Chinese va are complaining

@@ryoid6001 its serious for people that have nothing better to do in their life

​@@woteverm8 i think they are right to be offended when hyv is being straight up racist idk?? 😭😭

​@@woteverm8 "nothing better to do" we both play this wretched game dont act like youre any better

@@woteverm8 "have nothing better to do" why are you playing hsr when you have something better to do? Don't act like complaining is gonna take us more time than the time you play hsr or genshin

LOL

The only funny comment here

Taco Bell night?

💀💀💀

Holy fucking LMFAOO

Its fiction, its a game It's not reality. And DEI kills video games.

@@LBCAndrewit is media at the end of the day. It portrays cultures without portraying its people. No one is asking for all of natlan to have super dark skin, they’re asking for more diversity in a game that’s lore travels world wide. Genshin has fans worldwide, and they’re only catering to Chinese fans because what? Money? Make sense, we like your culture but we don’t like you.

I mean mud creatures are ugly af. That's the point of brown demons if I'm not mistaken... to look like a piece of shit in human form, am I right?

this is the exact thing that happened with sumeru, who took inspiration from south west asian and african countries where most people are tan and of darker skin tones. this isn’t new unfortunately.

We are not fucking black

Um this is not suspicious. This is exactly what they're meant to do. Dark skin tones believe it or not are basically non existent in conservative china. They do not appreciate nor hate it, but it's weird for them, therefore chinese artists simply prefer lighter skinned characters. Is this racist? In some roundabout way perhaps.

i kinda came out w something that its, when it comes to regions with people with more skins diversity…they mix the cultures… like sumeru and natlan. but when you see fontaine? its france, inazuma? japan, liyue? china, monstdadt? germany…and most of them are light skin. maybe my pov of view is too mid but idk like sumeru could be only based on India for example but they mixed lots of gods, goddesses, irl food, places, religion…like an excuse…

I’m ngl I think the characters are cute and that’s all that really matters that they show the culture they are from And have some what not been used as another character design 👍🤓

@@wickedwitchoftheweast perfectly worded

Funniest thing is the shark girl in game looks as white as everyone else

Bullshit, many asian companies (specifically chinese since hoyo is a chinese company) dont have any problem representing other cultures accurately and make black characters, hoyoverse is a straight up racist company. Proof: search carole voicelines from their game honkai impact

@S.Rain143 there's a lot other games from Asia that do dark skin characters, hoyoverse just don't want to make it.

There's other Asia games that do dark skined characters, hoyoverse just don't want to do it.

@@Moon_lanni7 take reverse 1999 for example, a CN game where the skin tones for characters have a very large range and they actually take proper representation for the indigenous cultures

Then they should not bother with representing cultures known for having dark skin! They should stick with their Asian/western inspired regions for their white skin obsession!

fr and everyone says theyre fcking tanned...

@@mynameisntactually I'm the SAME exact race as Dehya (Algerian Amazirgh) and we're the same skin tone😭 I'm also considered DARK SKINNED IN MY COUNTRY...ALL OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS TELL ME THAT. So yeah, Sumeru isn't that bad.

Never heard of color contrast?

@1224Judejuice I'm lightskinned too (Nubian Egyptian), and I get the same stuff from my mom's side of the family. It's colorism. Dehya might be OK, but Cyno, Sethos, and Candace are 100% not OK. There are lightskinned people in these regions, obviously, but they aren't the majority. That's the problem here. And calling any of the Sumeru characters tan is generous. Earlier characters like Xiyan and Kaeya are darker than the Sumeru cast, although not by much. Also, not to mention them just whitewashing an Egyptian deity by using his butchered Greek name (Hermanubis) and making his black jackal head white. That's so insane to me.

@@smoot9069 THE JACKAL HEAD IS ESPECIALLY CRAZY😭😭😭😭 What is up with the tan/dark skin + white hair combo??? It's literally everywhere. Also nubians take up roughly 1-2% percent of the population of egypt according to two well trusted sources, I'm algerian and have been there before. The 3d most common language there is spanish, do I know anybody who speaks spanish in algeria? No, but that doesn't make them a very small minority either. It's just that where I'M FROM it's a minority(aka a small town in the north) So yeah, not rlly the majority

There are tanned characters. The shark girl has a tan, but it’s not really dark and she’s as light as the rest of them. According to paimon, Kaeya might also be tanned. They talk about his “pasty eye”. I think just dark skinned characters would be better since the people from Middle East, west Africa, and South America aren’t “just tanned”.

yeah

I’m Mexican American, and i don’t go outside much due to the summer heat, and yet I’m darker than these characters who spend all their time outside… it’s crazy 💀🙁

​@@mariswhirlpool2677Pues yo también soy Mexicano. Salgo mucho a la calle y soy más blanco que copo de nieve. Así que realmente eso no tiene importancia

@@leonyarkin8797 Being Mexican comes with many different skin tones, but I feel if you see most Mexicans, they’re going to be on the tanner side (coming from a Mexican American)

This is such a small thing to focus on but there’s seriously no way he’s a twink. 😭

Yeah just straight up not gonna play hoyoverse games anymore, in hsr they only have one darker character and in Natlan they didn’t even try it not gonna play games from a racist company

Finally someone said it about Olorun. He looks so bland and skinny af when they already have the Wrio model which they should be using as a default model for all tall male characters From what I heard, he's also a bow user as well, when they could've made him a sword, greatsword or catalyst. He's the easiest skip for me.

Jp fans are upset too but I wonder if they feel the same about the Fate games or other gachas that directy change deitys for cultural appeals sake, but these days we should be able to represent without thinking about it but it's still the developers choice

@@Pewpewpewdamnnnnnhegotshot If you stop playing a game because not enough characters are black, maybe you're the issue.

And then have a character based off a Nigerian god and make them as white as the snow atop dragonspine Honestly that has to be the most shameless instance of white washing in a game I've ever seen

@@Egress00 don't use words you don't know the meaning too and besides these characters aren't gonna represent all of the playable Natlan characters

​@@Egress00soyboy.

It's also said to be inspired from the people of the Australian outback, a black tribe of the original Australians before England shipped the current population of white people over...yet...the characters do not represent this at all.

​@@sliverjack0283 it's the starting characters until the rest of the roster is filled out. Aka the introductory characters. It's a slap in the face if the introductory characters were white and the rest are black, not that I'm complaining, but seems like an insult. Secondly, what words did they use that were out of context, op is right.

No they want you, but not your skin, fix it

@@fachriecaf wdym fix it? There is nothing to fix

Look at this clowwwnnnnnn

What culture? The Aztec died out long ago.

They want your ancestors, not you 😂

not to mention that even chinese players think it's weird that most of the Natlan's characters are white

It’s not that people think Chinese can’t be any skin color other than pale, it’s that we know pale is a beauty standard there. Being a Chinese company I think they’re just enforcing that on their characters

Not to mention that Reverse 1999 is made by a chinese company and the game has ALOT of diversity, so saying hoyoverse being a chinese company behind the reason of the lack of diversity is a stupid excuse

@@earth2melmaybe it’s because Genshin is more under the CCP’s control. Reverse 1999 isn’t nearly as popular as Genshin and therefore wouldn’t catch their attention as much. Not to mention the fact that Reverse 1999 has gay characters which are DEFINITELY not allowed

​@@Froostedablobby hoyoverse had made gay characters before tho?

Its not that easy, character design needs to go along and fit the skin colour. Those edits show that if characters were just coloured Black they would look terrible. So if they wanted Black characters they needed completely different designs.

@@wojciechdrachal6418Those edits actually show that darker skin on natlan characters looks better and matches their bright and colorful design

@@lllnxuis if they were Black I and most of my friends would skip entire natlan region.

​@@wojciechdrachal6418 sounds a little bit.... racially motivated, don't you think?

@@ruanmeistestsubjectyeah that was a weird thing to say at the end 😭💀

Not to mention Chinese players are also calling hoyo out on this. And there are Chinese games such as dislyte who have darker characters in their games. So people saying hoyo won't add them because of Chinese players are just generalizing and being sinophobic.

oh my- no they are saying its b/c their chinese because for gods sake they follow ccp and the BEAUTY STANDARD!! its very much believed that there, pale skin slim body is perfect. chinese whales in genshin dont want to see a dark skinned non hourglass girl, they want pale curvy or slim "waifu" and genshin isnt willing to include more diversity because they will lose those players.

@@bella-chan1013they are

@@bella-chan1013 the complain one is really minor as a fellow asian we couldnt give two shit about it instead chinese and japanese are just roasting people complaining about this which is a game that is a fantasy. if u wanna give two shit go and do it properly like assassin creed new game which is a huge disrespect to the actual history because its a historical based game

@@momokosakurada605 you don't speak for the entire Asian community.

Ew. Blackwashing doesn’t exist; it’s never been a thing in history. You have no right to use a culture and not probably credit it.

@@mikey.love. it does exist. That's racism. But I do agree about the culture being there but not the people.

@@belqeesnoor8731 blackwashing has never been a thing in history. That’s like saying Asianwashing exists, and, yet again it’s never been something in history. Removing ethnic features, erasing someone’s culture and only taking the aspects that suit YOUR needs and not paying home to the original culture is something historical: whitewashing. It’s also called cultural appropriation.

Are muslims/jews black skinned? Nope

@@lordaragon901 Well, gotta remember that the sun and the moon are fake, actually, the whole sky is fake. I don't think they actually have UV to begin with since it's all artificial. Ppl really forget this lore detail.

Wearing a lot of clothes and immigrands. And Jesus wasnt necerrely black. Middle east did have variation of skin color back then too. From darker to lighter. Jesus was propably brown or brownish white. Since most of Middle easteners are brown.

who know maybe teyvat fake sun lack UV light

​@@JouMaxuThank you! Jesus was more of a tan on the browner side. Plus, you don't have to be black to be less prone to being burned in the sun. It just pisses me off by how stupid some players can be. Tan, dark tan or even being on the browner side can keep you from burning in the sun. You do not have to be Black.

It's worse when you realize that they are *profiting immensely* off your culture too.

@@maruisaiahnapa7381they profited off their own culture in liyue

@@moodl3d856 If it's your own culture you understand and experience firsthand I don't think that's quite the same lmao

Hoyo never said Natlan took inspiration from anywhere, ppl just find resemblance to link it to real life, if Hoyo want, they could say that the whole Natlan region was base on a fantasy region that they make up🤷

⁠​⁠@@iamwayne6138 Natlan is fictional sure, but the cultures it's very obviously based on is real. Even when they don't say it explicitly, anyone with common sense knows it is inspired by Latin American, Mexican and African cultures. The fact that the characters aren't being represented appropriately IS a genuine problem.

That's what I'm saying dude. One of the first dark-skinned characters in Genshin was Barnabas in the prequel manga and he was a bad guy 💀

@@Syiepherze Calm down, seriously!? I saw the manga but I don't remember it ☠️

Hoyo never said Natlan took inspiration from anywhere, ppl just find resemblance to link it to real life, if Hoyo want, they could say that the whole Natlan region was base on a fantasy region that they make up🤷

@@iamwayne6138 Several of Natlan's characters' names come from Latin, African and Aztec culture, Iansan herself is named after an Orixa. Apart from how the video here cited the origin of the name Natlan. Hoyo may never have openly stated where the inspiration comes from, but it's not like it can't be seen. It's the same thing as saying that Inazuma has no relationship with Japan just because Hoyo hasn't declared anything.

@@iamwayne6138 how can you be so blatantly wrong lol

It's not exactly like the media does that with Greek mythology, (or North) so I don't really see the issue. Inspiration doesn't mean representation. The only people that complain about how Marvel gets Asgård completely wrong are nerd, because it's inspiration.

exactly- it's god-awful to aestheticize real world gospel and cultures to fit what you deem as "profitable". genshin could've taken the star rail route and done any uninspired fantasy/sci fi setting but by implementing nearly a 1 to 1 copy of real world cultures, they are under an obligation to represent people who created said cultures. like this would never be okay if they'd warped jesus christ or chinese dieties but somehow it's okay with less western/"mainstream" cultures.

​@@not_pandasite South African and black culture groups sre attacked though...to this day I argue with dummies on what is African culture and what isn't...therefore it isn't wise for them to take a culture already hidden and unknown and make misleading characters.

@@jewelfoxgaming873 I'm sorry but the same can be said about north mythology, the only reason people even knows a bit about it is through media like Marvel that takes the name and a bit of inspiration without getting the religion "correctly". Which is for the most part fair because Christianity eliminated the faith. North mythology was an obscure religion that had 99% died out, but interest in it has resurfaced because other media took inspiration from it. Taking inspiration is completely fine, as Genshin is fiction they can take whatever inspiration they want. If you think they're handling it poorly, or in a way that's not to your taste, just quit the game. I quit Genshin long ago because I didn't like where it was headed (and Paimon exists). Actually on the note of Paimon, they did the exact same thing with Paimon, Paimon isn't a flying baby, Barbatos isn't a femboy. Etc. Genshin has taken inspiration from a lot of religions and mythology. So why is it a problem now?

@@heirianyes they are. If they can easily do it with Inazuma and Mondstadt then every other region deserves the same treatment. STFU.

@@BleachFactory and NPCs :,)

What are they trying to tell us ??🤨🤨🤨

Waaah😂

They even have darker skinned people in the comics who were originally from Natlan but were basically enslaved and moved to Monstadt while the nobles were still in power. Also, they all basically died, with Vanessa being the last one. Like. I don't have to say how bad that is, right 😬?

​@@violet5018 I don't have to remind you Vanessa basically reformed Mond with Venti and later ascended to Celestia, right?

"colorist" Buddy you got some issues.

Get some real issues

Touch grass, you mouth breather

You're quite right

why are you so obsessed with colours, get a life

She should be darker it would look gorgeous with her hair but I'm pretty sure she's inspired by murata himeko and himeko is a white red head... ig that's why still wouldn't hurt for her to have tanned skin atleast

@@Daimon-ls6noshe can be inspired by himeko and not be white

@@Daimon-ls6no she is still her own character. Saying that shes inspired by another character doesnt mean anything

@@mothman5883 Quetzalcoatl was white skinned diety in Aztecs so for me she makes sense

@@azanshakoor yeah uh, guess what. There are also dark skinned gods, and their people are not originally white. Egyptians had one or two white gods I'm sure of it, doesn't make sense to make all Egyptians depicted as white.

I wonder if the Chinese audience would complain if they were darker because japan is able to be accepting and is fascinated with Aztec and latin cultures

@@anoob6614it’s not the Chinese audiences, it’s the company that’s the issue. Even some of the Chinese audience has spoken up about it. There are plenty of other Chinese games that have lots of dark skin characters so it shouldn’t be an issue with Mihoyo games

Could have used Indonesia instead, our skin colour varies and it doesn't reach too dark of a tone (some people has it though) Imagine a Majapahit inspired nation

Mihoyo already has a problem with male characters. They want light bright waifus to attract male customers. The first male foxian in HSR is already a shitshow

honestly as someone who is from west africa i honestly your right but it is harder to draw/animate on blender or just on some drawing tools darker skinned characters 😊

Gods dont have skin colour

@@yhwach1 Depends on which gods we're talking about. Some gods in religions have appearances and others don't, they're not all the same. Olorun/Olodumare technically has no tangible appearance either but you may still see people drawing human-like depictions of him. Like how there are depictions of the Judeo-Christian God I suppose

just because the name similar doesn't mean he's based from it for me cuz ororon mean "hear" in new Zealand maori culture it's does answer ororon furry design and he look more like it but they never confirm anything and not trying to make it accurate in the first place so I don't really know if ororon really based from olorun or not if yes then why they don't make ororon a god?

@@user-li9vs1fe5k I guess only the archon can be a god. Both Chasca, and Xilonen, are also gods, for example. It's worth noting that the chinese spelling of Ororon in genshin is "Ōuluòlún", in japanese, "Olorun", and korean, "Ollorun." I think it's safe to say that they mean Olorun. No idea why the english localization changed it.

Not having more characters with darker skin color doesn't make them racist though. They just decided on a style and range of skin colors, why does it have to be racism?

We are not all brown, but there are many poc beside white, and Natlan has shown only ONE dark skin character from a place inspired by part of Native America(contient) and Africa. That's the issue, I think most complaines is no us wanting ALL the chaarcters to be Dark, but at least more than One

@@sofialu226 that I think is a fair and realistic criticism of the game

@@sofialu226I guess but so far we’ve only seen half of the cast atm. We can pray and hope we get other dark skins 😕😕😕

@@KatzeBabeswe have been shown 9 characters and there r 12 fontaine characters so there shouldnt be much more left

Ditto

Same after I saw Sumeru

Well duh, hoyo has proved over and over they don’t care.

Ig they were expecting something to change, and got flashbanged by the amount of light skinned chars lol

most werent shocked in the least, theyre tired because they knew it was gonna happen.

People said "wait for natlan" so we waited

@@yourdadwenttogetthis5149 Because everyone said “wait for natlan” not to mention people were and still complain about sumeru. It’s just that it got drowned out for almost a year because of Fontaine

Sumeru is based off Iraq where people are white skinned.

the funny part is is that we already have arlan in hsr, and another who just got showcased (sugilite) within like a year of the game’s launch? iirc we had to wait until sumeru in genshin to get candace (who is her own can of worms) and dehya. idk im talking out my ass but having recently started hsr the differences are obvious. though hsr isn’t free of this either, like with aventurine

SLAY. Good argument

So now has to be 100% based on its origin? Then let's hate Raiden Ei because bealzebul is not a purple haired hot big titty waifu

@@Altair_zHaos you’re going backwards. we’re talking about a character’s ethnicity, based on where the nation they are from is based off of, not whatever you’re going on about. while raiden’s design has its own issues, inazuma is based off of japan, and while there are plenty of people there with darker skin, the majority of the population is paler. for sumeru and natlan though, being based off of india and latin america, two regions of the world with a majority darker population, the fact that they are all so pale *is* an issue.

@@Altair_zHaos Bro is using her Ars goetia name while disregarding the fact that demons can in fact take on the forms of humans so it's not out of the ordinary in the slightest

With what happened to Caribert and others with the "curse of the wilderness" I think we can safely rule Hilichurls out. Still kinda weird though but I guess they just wanted to portray a very primitive, tribal mob group

@@Syiepherze okay but why couldn’t they make them not super dark skinned? Coulda made them blue or green. Wouldn’t have been out of the ordinary for the game. But naw. Melanin reserved for the enemy.

​@@idontknowyoumitch They are not "super dark skinned" they are just straight up pitch black lmao

@@idontknowyoumitch Oh no! Enemies that have the color black!!!!

Just like real life, truth hurts

omg right, and their colorful clothes and hair pop out so much more when they have dark skin!

Replying to boost the comment

They look so much better with a light vibrant complexion

@@redeyes3847wrong

@@mikey.love. cope

Chinese people would get mad to if this happen with their culture, its valid the criticism

That’s about how I feel on it too honestly. Like i’m sure the characters and story will still be good and all that but it just feels out of place enough for me to scratch my head and say huh? or something like that

"exactly when" was way back in sumeru tbh and at this point people are just tired

It would be nice to get darker skin characters, but it's not that big a deal. The company is chinese, so don't expect them to value 'race diversity' of fictional characters as much as an American company. Honestly, it shouldn't matter

​@@butterflydisaternah this aint about being woke

It's like complaining why Navi from Avatar is blue.

People screaming at their screens at fictional stuff is always funny to me

Same, like we're this far in the game (including their others games too) so I don't see Hoyo suddenly changing their mind anytime soon and I see this argument sadly going nowhere. At the end of the day Hoyo made their choice and it doesn't make sense to try to change their minds

​@@Phantom_Zone if they can capitalise and profit off 2 entire continents population, history, music, tradition, they better NOT misrepresent them

​​@@nishisun5008lets be real they will in fact still make bank on it even in those areas lmao I get why you are upset but its fiction Hoyo "inspired" itself they don't and never claimed to try and do a 100% representation of the real deals, They are not a documentary they are not duty bound by anything to get skin color right. Would be nice to see more diversity? Sure but they are not forced by any realistic ground to do it

Based on doesn't mean everything has to be the same, just let people have fricking free will to design man.

@@Lvisredalinyou’re right it doesn’t have to be the same but its not even close, why does EVERY character have to be paler than paper

@@sappy225 Because the devs have free will?

@@Lvisredalin it’s still incredibly disrespectful to take the names of several worshipped gods and goddesses who are depicted as having tan dark skin, and make them entirely white characters. It’s like going to Africa, taking a priestess from a tribe and bleaching her skin to sell her to a bunch of people cause bleached skin makes her more sellable. That’s disgusting.

​@@Lvisredalin so do the people that these cultural appropriations affect?

It's really not

@@christophsiebert1213 it really is, you're part of the problem if you refuse to accept that

It's just a disappointment not a problem

@@christophsiebert1213 ok chris

@@mohakus4 congratulations you're missing the point

skin colour is dependent on UV and that is dependent to how close you live to the equator and since shneznaya is snowy and cold teyvat is in the north and yes there is a desert but it may not be hot just dry or is caused be the celestial nail, and since teyvat is realy really small, smaller than a lot of cities in real life, the UV is the same or similar across all the regions that's why they are white

I wish, I have trouble with making dark skinned OCs bc in the past I got shamed for it. (I’m white). I want to branch out but ahh

😂😂😂

@@darianstarfrog i bet youre white huh 💀

@@darianstarfrog rename your playlists before laughing at other people ❤️

bruh who cares. y’all still gonna roll for them anyways 😂

​@@stupidheadwispIkr. I think im supporting the diversity thing more because the characters look much better in darker skin tones rather than in lighter ones.

Even some people originary from spain have dark skin tones, like doesnt matter how you do it. Representing these countries and cultures is bound to mean people have a dark skin colour, it would be better to not represent them at all if youre not gonna do it right

What's crazy is that Xinyan and Kaeya are just tanned yet they are darker than cyno, mualani and other sumeru and natlan characters

Natlan does have a range of skin tones. Three are pale, Loli Safari Guide and the Pokemon Beauty both have different skin tones, Iansan is black, and Jaguar Lady has olive skin.

considering most of the people mad are people of color, i really doubt that bud

Literally me 😭 I'm so disappointed 😞 like don't get me wrong I like the character new design but man.... I'm disappointed

​@@Mrs.ragnvindr31 I would be dissappointed with Black characters and if natlan characters were Black i would skip the entire region and save for Sneshznaya.

@@wojciechdrachal6418 damn, tell us about how you really feel

@@wojciechdrachal6418 oh! Thats not..

@@sinnavihecroft2044 there definitely has to be some kind of interference with the designs of characters, if you changed the skin colour just slightly darker it makes the designs colours more vibrant, it seems to be intentional atp.

They definitely won't. They'll just create new characters with darker skin tones.

It doenst fully matter if ppl are opposed to it,respecting a culture that suffers from discrimination and disrespect from fictional and irl media is a matter of nescessity and is a more respectful act than having to appeal to people via whitewashing of the ethnic individuals of that same culture they took from

​@@zen0siria512it does matter if it causes even more backlash and racism.....

But it's true that some Natlan characters do look better with darker skin

@@zen0siria512 This is a Chinese company. Why is anyone shocked that their characters are literally only two shades of pale? It's what's accepted there and is a beauty standard in Asian countries afaik to have light skin tones to the point that skin bleaching is still acceptable. Asking for diversity here is admirable but futile, they don't care about representation outside of their own and never have. All of their games feature an entirely white cast if you actually stop to take a look at all 4 of them.