WHY Are People Still Buying These CPUs? - AMD FX Series in 2023 

Totally lol. When i max out setting i could heat a small apartment with mine.

i built mine also in 2016... an Fx8350 w/saber 990fx r2... I used to overclock it to 4.4ghz but honestly it wasn't needed except for some games that i never really played. So after 2 years of usage i rolled back to "improved stock" (4.0/4.3t) Hardest game i throw on the Fx was shadow of the tomb raider and it took it fairly good Allways 16gb (2x8 hyperX Fury 1866mhz) DDR3 RAM + (first) R7 370 4gb / (second) Rx 570 4gb / (and last) Rx 580 4gb. The best pair for the CPU was the 570, i think it was as far as the cpu can fairly take without a bottleneck. Now i just build a Ryzen setup, i get a used R5 1600 + b350 mobo and i will upgrade cpu soon enough... to be fair, it is not that far away the Fx8350 to the R5 1600... despite having NVME SSD vs SATA3 SSD, i don't feel that much of a gap (using the same Rx 580 4gb). but the gap between the Fx8350 and the R7 3700x (or 5700g or even 5700x) will be massive in every aspect. At the end of the day, the best gpu you can pair a cpu with (without bottleneck) will determine the life of it... Back in the day Fx6300 was expected to be paired with a GTX 960 4gb / R9 380 4gb at best... and these gpus are quite obsolete, therefore cpu won't cut it anyway... But fx8350 could take a GTX980, or a R9 390... so a Rx 570 with newer drivers sits around the same performance of these old gpus... and that's the spot for the Fx... still usable for maybe 2 more years at best

Bende var fx 8320 gtx 1080 ti 4 k birçok oyunda 60 fps alıyorum

nah, they are not good

@@ALPHABYTE64 i love how your response to his comment is basically "nuh uh"

newer games that definitely benefit from more cores but it'll struggle with minecraft and csgo 😂it can still game for sure, it can drive apex to over 100fps and well into the 160s in indoor scenarios in 2023 so that might surprise some people considering the i5s that it could barely compete with in its time might struggle to even launch newer games that demand more than 4 threads.

I had the 8120 when it first came out in hindsight I should have gone Intel it did manage to game okay I used it up until ryzen first generation. Which was Leaps and Bounds better

Everyone likes to say that they were good for the price. The problem with that argument is that AMD previously released the Athlons and Phenoms for less than their competitors CPU's. The Athlon and Phenoms could complete and sometimes even out perform them. For instance. The Athlon x2 was cheaper than a Pentium D yet it blew it away. The Phenom's were a little bit slower than the equivalent Core2Quad but a little overclocking fixed that, yet the Phenom's were far cheaper. So....now all of a sudden its ok that FX line is crap because its cheaper?

How'd it go?!

I wanted to say this, FXes are the last capable cpus which are not bloated

'...and give my 23-year-old 1999 desktop tower a full makeover paint job with cooling mods' I took our old (2004 iirc)family presario, cleaned it, sprayed some discoloured bits, found new front i/o and card reader on ebay and put a 3700x and 2080 inside. Still some cooling mods to install before I can run with the side on but a good sleeper so far.

Sorry, but how do you upgrade the capacitors on a mobo ?

@@youngmo77 On hole trough caps I use a soldering iron with temp control. I add leaded solder to it first that melts at a lower temprature then suck it out. Sometimes I have to do it a couple of times to get the leaded solder all the way down the barrel. When the component lead is lose you can pull it out. You don't want to pull on it until the component wire is loose because pulling the plated through barrel will can damaged the board. It helps to preheat the board.

I've worked in electronics manufucturing for 15 years I don't really need any practice. It might help to practice on something you don't value untill you get it right before destroying something you value.

Microsoft did release two fixes for the fx core architecture, for Windows 7. I assume, but don't know, that Win 10 has this already.

@@TheZachMan-09there’s 8 integer cores and cpus didn’t always have an FPU “math coprocessor” despite that when doing basic fpu work the fpu has two 128bit parts each able to do separate work.

I'm still using the 8350 w/ an 2060 super, it's running great. Although, Battlebit, Rimworld, and Paradox games aren't really that crazy.

@@SMongoosse Im still rockin an FX 8370 and Ive still never hit a major cpu bottleneck in all the games Ive played

The Fx 8350 is a 4 core CPU with Hyperthreading and additional integer-units. The FPU is just one of MANY parts that is lacking. More specifically there is NOTHING other than the integer-unit that was duplicated. Fetch, Decode, execute - the simplest breakdown of the steps a core needs to execute do run any program. Guess which part of those each module had 2 of? right - NONE. Cause only the integer cluster was duplicated - the smallest part of the CPU. Interface to the rest of the CPU? 1. Fetch? 1 branch-prediction? 1 instruction-cache? 1 Predecoder? 1 Decoder? 1 Dispatcher? 1 Write-cache? 1 L2 Cache? 1

Agreed, they were just butt hurt because they bought the slower CPU.

Nicely said Meanwhile the real evil that was still going on was inhell and team greed both doing a ton of nasty bs behind the scenes with trying to force vendors to not use anything amd highly illegal and very scummy moves to say the least but sadly very common by both inhell and nvidia to this day. Nvidia being beyond infamous for such underhanded shit

I feel like my phenom kept up better tbh

I started with the fx 4100, and upgraded to the fx 8350 when I could. The system is still my backup computer, paired with a Radeon RX 580-8GB. Runs 1080p games perfectly fine.

@@hrayz can i run most games with native 1366x768p with medium settings or lowest just with MSAA 4x on like cs2,the finals, nfs heat im too lazy to throw away my old 768p monitor.

@@randomdreamer1619 the RX 580-8GB card is still a good 1080p gaming card. Some games at medium, many even better. (Some badly optimized games like Starfield will suck no matter what though.)

@@randomdreamer1619with an fx processor prob not

please dont say craps..please

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CRAPS!?!?!?!? @@kokilius

I ran a FX6350 at 4.9ghz 24/7 but it would do boot up to 5.4ghz.

They were doing pretty well, but I think Bulldozer is what solidified their temporary downfall of sorts. Once Ryzen came out, especially Ryzen 3000, they really redeemed themselves in the CPU space.

@@aChairLeg I agree, but by that time I had made the move to Macs. Not so much because of AMD or Intel, but because I wanted to try something different.

One might say they bulldozed their lead, really excavated the performance...

​@@aChairLeg Behind the scenes they built some really important tech and standards though, but it's really only stuff Uber comp sci tech nerds care about. Of all of them AMD64 is the most visible. HSA and its unified memory space is probably the second most important.

Amd fx chips where and still are very capable chips... It just got overshadowed hard cause Intel came up with much faster cpus. Doesn't mean it's a bad cpu. Its perfect for any budget gamer Being able to battle even some games released current era with a good overclock.

That's insane. Would partially explain why my experience was so bad with it

@@aChairLeg flat boards in a test bench configuration don't get active airflow like they would in a case, either, which is why you'd typically see test bench setups with a downward firing cooler or an AIO arranged to exhaust towards the board. Without it you're likely to see higher board temps around the socket because that heat just kind of balls up down there with nowhere to go. It gets really bad on boards without MOSFET heatsinks because the surface area it has to release heat through convection is teeny tiny.

That's because a lot of am3+ motherboards are just updated am3s, really needed a heatsink.

I will definitely agree, the duel channel really makes the difference with the Fx series

I considered it, but my 6300 was somewhat of an overclocking dud, so it wouldn't have been the most fair comparison

@@aChairLegAight!

Damn those 9000 series are crazy. Glad to hear they're working out for you

Thank you

Exactly my 2 retro systems as I posted above run everything from pc dos 7 to win7 and for NON OS they can have win10 or the beyond abysmal w11 technically though that pos is such shit I would never ever use it for anything

Haha that's awesome. They're still great chips, but the used market is crazy on them.

The old am3 cpus make very good nas/server based and configs properly they can run much cooler and using less power than default while retaining an excellent capability for multi threaded needs As for nas truenas is ok but overall unraid is superior in many ways IMO (I've worked with both and ithere for many yrs) While the old FX AMDs do nicely for this my own old 8320 is better overall than the 8350 (better therm/per stability esp when uv) and is setup to be able to boot anything from pc dos7 to w7 or w10 if wanted for that matter.. on bare metal or such could be also dont for most cases in a VM along with unraid at the same time The sad myths and badmouthing of amd at times still continues due to mnpanybvery ignorantnjackasses that just continue spewing crap they heard "from a friend" but such is almost always false, over stated or blatant lies The pathetic nonsense trying to claim they were not 8 core for example when they are and amd never tried to hide their design and details of how such worked

would it do good paired with an rx 580? im trying to make a budget build

Yeah

ARENT YOU HAVING ALLOT OF BOTTLENECK? YOUR CPU IS ONLY HAS 25% POWER OF YOUR GPU

Electricity and reliability? That thang gotta be leaving scorch marks on that board, and I’m sure the capacitors and power delivery are happy with old thermal pads. The night and day from Ryzen is so worth it, you won’t regret it in the slightest.

@@ApolloTheDerg i still use a 8350 matched with a 1660 ti. I play cyberpunk at 50 to 60 frames no problem

@@ApolloTheDergI ran a fx 8320e oced to 4.8ghz for like 7 years at 1.4v and OCed to northebridge and cache pretty heavy along with oced memory controller to get ddr3 oced to 2566mhz as long as you change pads every few years any 990fx board can handle this easy

That's funny, I wasn't even planning on getting the 8350 for testing because I thought the same.

8320 is the best fx cpu by far for multiple reasons and yes that includes the 8350

If you already have it, it's not a bad chip at all. It's just compared to other more modern chips the prices are high IMO. I think it'd be a great chip for a NAS or server.

It can do both but as always the mb picked makes a BIG diff uber cheap pos mbs need to be avoided and the uber $$ 9xx series are generally not worth it For server use I used an old gb 880g with onboard gfx and the one sys is running perfectly n Here almost nonstop 24/7 for over 12yrs now same for my other fx sys that's now retro center using a wc oc ov 8320 on an asus mb and it runs several Oss etc from bare metal or from VM as needed to cover almost anything from the late 80s til now

If you're already on AM3, the 8320 or 8350 could be good options. I wouldn't spring for a 9370 or 9590 though personally if I was on AM3. I would also avoid the 8120.

Mb is a big factor for overall results esp with higher end cpu parts but best performer overall inc stability with an oc and ov I found that my 8320 has been the best by a good chunk and is superior to the 8350 as well

just change that cpu i5 4150 i think the model we still use it beats all the fx cpus

@@aeroflopper that model doesn't seem to exist

That's a sweet setup!

Bad advice.

That is very possible, yeah. Maybe I'll revisit this one day

Depends on your budget and what kind of deals you can find. Lga 2011 and 2011-3 cpus are priced really similarly it's just the systems around them that make or break the build

8320 e or non e is IMO the best ofnthe fx series for many reasons

@@konnorj6442 truth it stood up against time

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at least use a i5-3550 as a comparison. an i3-3220 is only a 2 core 4 thread cpu, and thus will get beat by the fx 6350 unless you running some program that only cares about single core IPC so like it would do better in Valorant...and that's about it for modern games