The biggest hypocrisy of evangelicals to me is that none of them claim a need for authority to preach the gospel of Christ or to teach. But then they turn around and say that we have no authority to preach or teach when we claim literal priesthood authority from the living God. Seems like an insecurity thing to me.
@@dirkjensen969 actually we claim that John the Baptist appeared and gave Joseph Smith the Aronic priesthood and then Peter, James and John appeared to Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdry and gave them the Melchizedek Preisthood.
thou hast elected us that we shall be saved, whilst all around us are elected to be cast by thy wrath down to hell; for the which holiness, O God, we thank thee; and we also thank thee that thou hast elected us, that we may not be led away after the foolish traditions of our brethren, which doth bind them down to a belief of Christ, which doth lead their hearts to wander far from thee, our God. 18 And again we thank thee, O God, that we are a chosen and a holy people. Amen.
I think one of the scariest things about evangelicals is that as a member of the church, with the Spirit with you, you can clearly see them act in contradiction to the spirit and come at you while they are screaming that they are doing Gods work. The truth is really easy to see sometimes. I told a pastor what church I went to because he asked and his whole demeanor changed and he was just like I’m here to tell you that you’re going to hell! I was like “bro I liked your energy and what you were saying….” And then he got to that point… it was awkward. I told him I appreciated his opinion and belief and how he was committed to it enough to say that, but I don’t think he received that well. He was just fixed on it. The convo awkwardly ended.
No you just don’t like Christians calling Mormonism a cult. There’s nothing wrong with the spirit we are called to call out anti christ religions that don’t follow scripture and founded in witchcraft (freemasonry)
They are a community of people who believe Jesus will roast 90% of the current human population in hell for all eternity and that hell is full of billions of people who lived very good lives but did not believe in Jesus 'the right way'. So of course they are going to be mean. They believe the creator of the universe is mean and merciless so they are mean and merciless.
Forty five years ago I left the Methodist religion ,which I must add I loved being part of but could not accept the explanation of the Trinity … for the next five years I investigated every Christian denomination, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu and others .. my friend attached to an Evangelical group and invited me to join her. My response was that somewhere on the Earth or it was yet to come is Jesus Christ’s Church and when I find it I will know … I was then introduced to The Church I’d Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints and after praying about the truthfulness of the doctrine and declaration that the Church contains Jesus true and restored Gospel, I received a very strong spiritual witness that I had found exactly what I was searching for.. A pearl,of great price .. I am totally, completely blessed. Never a moment’s doubt in forty years since baptism..
I served my mission from 94 - 96 in Southern California. Saugus, Burbank, Ridgecrest, the valley, Granada Hills and Quartz Hill. I ran into these type of people all the time. I never understood why they were so angry. They used the same tropes back then.
You must be a low information voter who does not understand the wickedness of today’s schools and learning institutions. The prophets in the scriptures seemed pretty mean to the people they called to repentance, as well
In my second grade in California (1967 or 68) I still remember being trinity shamed on the playground by a teacher and some kids who must have been some kind of Protestants. Yeah, MEAN!
One time my sister was with her friends but needed to use the bathroom. The closest bathroom was in her friends church they were right outside of. When she went in the pastor immediately went up to her to spring up a conversation. When my sister brought up that she was LDS, he completely changed his personality and started condemning her to Hell. Then he grabbed my sister’s head and said he was feeling for devil horns.
But Kwaku, it doesn’t matter what the pastor’s kids do, cuz they be saved by grace, and predestination. They said the name of Jesus once in church and became a true Christian. Non of the rest of it (good works unto repentance…) matters after that, right? Wink 😉
Yeah, I always wondered why they believe there will be a judgement day. A judgement of what? Whether or not you said the name of Christ in church? I'm not sure what everyone will be judged for if it's not on how you lived your life.
On my mission a family invited me in and they had an entire book of questions to ask Mormons. I did not react the way he expected as I laughed and asked to see the book and then giggled over it for the next ten minutes. The fact that we are seen as this much of a threat is very telling.
It's evangelicals, not just evangelical RU-vidrs. In SoCal, evangelicals taught their children to tell my children they are members of a cult, etc, etc. That's beyond mean. It's evil! They are filled with hate.
Same here, in AZ. It was the potters house and the Baptist kids that taught me I was doomed for hell. I was 7. I have not yet taught my kids about who goes to hell and who does not😂
Isn't the LDS Church really a cult? It's all about Joseph Smith...and what HE SAID HAPPENED. And when the Membership looks the other way at misconduct...and explains it away...and The Leader practices sexually oriented policy in secret....THAT is a cult.
You're not evil and we would probably get along pretty well but it is a cult. Not as extreme as Jim Jones or Heavens Gate but still very controlling and thought-stopping. Fairly hypocritical coming Evangelicals. They've got plenty of issues as well.
Same. Our evangelical neighbors in cali when we lived there taught their 8 year old daughter to hate "mormons". So that little girl went after my kids all the time telling them how evil they were. Such great lessons at such a young age🤦♀️🤦♂️
First year of high school one guy I had a crush on called me a Moron trying to be mean. Of course I turned the other cheek, NOT, I chased him around the halls till I caught him and punched him saying "I am a Mormon not Moron". Never got teased about my religion again and my crush disappeared 😂
The verse in Galatians ALWAYS makes me smile, and my follow up question is : Can you provide ANY verse from the Book of Mormon which describes a different Jesus than the man we read from in the New Testament?
Yeah, the LDS Jesus was born in Bethelehem and taught a loving forgiving religion amd ordained Apostles and performed miracles and then was killed and rose from the grave. So... completely different
Found your channel just a couple days ago, and I'm addicted 😂. You guys have an energy that you just don't get with the majority of other LDS media, and I love it!
Same energy that caused people to follow Joseph to Kirtland...then to Missouri....then to Nauvoo. I think the most important thing is to determine if Ward Radio Boys are good talkers or that they are speaking the Truth. Cardon, Kwaku and Brad are really "The Three Monkeys".... HEAR no evil (about the Church)....SEE no evil....SPEAK no evil. Or maybe Ostriches....heads in the sand?
I was hit by a Book of Mormon that an evangelical took out of my hands. I was on the street, had no encounters with evangelicals before this and was young an naive. Had no idea they were so willing to abuse an 18 year old.
@@Cindybin46 it’s OK because when I went on a mission, I found some very good evangelical people that taught me a lot about Jesus Christ and I would not have the testimony I do today, without their testimony born to me.
@@krismurphy7711 “they” as in the people evangelizing with that guy that hit me. I recognize that not all evangelicals would do that, as evidenced by my previous comment.
Just because one idiot did that to you does not mean you should say “they” are willing to abuse. What that person did to you was wrong but it does not reflect what evangelicals believe. I’m sorry that happened to you.
@@Lee-xn8by Yes, it is a bit humorous when Southern Baptists call us racists. The same guys who used to dress up in white sheets and burn crosses in people's front yards and used to kill Mormon missionaries. It is humorous in a dark sarcastic sort of way when you think about it.
@@Lee-xn8by The claim of us being racist comes from someone that has never lived in the south and in Utah. I've lived in both for long periods of time. Claims of racism on us fall so flat for anyone that knows.
The people who describe their god as an incomprehensible, unfathomable mystery tell us we have a different Jesus? Uh...Yea! If you define your god as incomprehensible, you have NO intellectual basis for condemning ANYONE elses understanding of God. We believe in the God and Jesus of the Bible and have hope and faith in them.
We all have critics. Don’t feel bad. 😊 Luke 6:26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets. Luke 6:27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, Luke 6:28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
I served my mission in Colorado. I spent 8 months in one of the evangelical capitals, Colorado Springs. My companion and I knocked on this one lady’s door. After telling us no she said, “I’ll pray for you, will you pray for me?” She had no smile at all. I can’t remember what our response, but we went away and laughed about it later.
I made friends with an elderly couple in a Tai chi class they knew I was mormon, back when we used that name pride, they went to their church of many years and they had a sermon on "how to talk to mormons" they told me about it the next Monday and they stopped going to that church because they had actually taken the time to get to know someone of that faith and realized how hateful their preacher was being. I think that's the biggest issue these other faiths have. They haven't taken the time to really get to know us or look at what we believe with integrity
Many people use the Bible to justify questionable actions, they even used the Bible to justify slavery, so much depends on what one is looking for and what one expects from the text. imho 😊
This channel is therapy for those of us who are attacked on a regular basis. We can either fight back, play dead, roll out the red carpet or laugh about it🤣👍.
Oh, I think it's fine to call out the stupidity. They asked why these guys were so mean. They don't have the pure love of Christ. It's awfully hard to have that when the so called Christian churches spend half of their time attacking others. Instead of serving and living like Christ lived.
Totally Agree with you there👍. If only those other religions knew what they were fighting against. What will they tell Jesus when he comes again🤔. One thing for sure.... they'll have no place to run or hide
I was on a bike a lot of my mission. People threw stuff at us alot and yelled and all that. But who knows whether they were Evangelicals or not, and everyone goes through that. But talking with those guys face to face was a very eye-opening experience. This one crazy old fat dude wearing coveralls was screaming at us as we walked away from his front door, he had threatened to sick his dog on us, and even when we were on the sidewalk far from his house he was still screaming. Telling us we were "Stupid idiots going to hell and we didn't even know it." He used the word 'cult' at least three times. But the one I will never forget was when he told us he would "laugh at (us) in hell for all eternity". I have learned since then, that this really is one of their goals in life. It's all about positioning for them. They claim WE are bad about being upwardly mobile in the next life, those guys are off the charts. They really are trying to position themselves so they can get into heaven and laugh at souls in hell. As demented as it sounds, they really think they can do that, and they want it bad. That is how demented they are.
That’s really sad. They have no idea what they are facing when reviewing all their words and vitriol (as a record is being kept in heaven) and they see the Savior emulating His perfect love even in that moment all the while mourning their judgment….
That's probably why Joseph and Other Churches had success in attracting Convert. In reality what does the LDS Church say about ALL "evangelical" sects??? NOT getting into the highest levels of Heaven unless you know our Temple Handshakes, Passwords, Names, etc. LDS Church is just as exclusive of ALL OTHER RELIGIONS...its just they do it with a smile.
@@krismurphy7711 Ah yes, the all-exclusive church that goes around telling people all about it. You know, the one that uses its time and those very temples you mentioned to ensure that every soul that will ever inhabit the earth has a chance to receive those very "secret" rituals by their own free will and choice before judgment day. Indeed, the one that invites all to come unto Christ and make lasting promises of fidelity with Him and the Father. That's the all-exclusive church you're referring to? I could go on and on.
The disturbing things in the Christian music industry that dude was probably talking about is not the music itself, but rather the nepotism, cronyism, debauchery, insincerity, dishonesty, and fakery going on in that sector of the music industry. It is not about ministry, but rather $$, stardom, and fame. The super talented, sincere Christian musicians rarely make it if they're not willing to play the game. There was a RU-vid dude who did a whole series on this a few years ago.
Evangelical Christianity has left such a bad taste in my mouth that I don’t even like considering myself Christian anymore. I call myself LDS, while I am “Christian”, I don’t like the term anymore.
Oh, I vehemently insist on calling myself a Christian, despite my many imperfections, but I also vigorously agree with them that we practice a different brand of Christianity. On that point, they are correct.
Evangelical pastors talk more about Mormons than about Jesus. You would be pissed too if you were a member of their church and were required by your pastor to hear for the 300th time their "How To Tract To Mormons" workshop
Which has always puzzled me. If you are predestined to be a narrow few and they think we’re all damned…that kinda negates the argument doesn’t it? Don’t they say we’re predestined to burn in hell? Why go against Gods will? Why do they bother? Either we’re predestined or not…..
@@lukev483 That count does not sound typical. You would have a nicer time if you just listening instead of cynically counting words. You're welcome to join us on Sunday
They actually don't though. The guys on this show just make it seem like all evangelicals care and talk about are Mormons. I personally have a curiosity about you guys cause ik a few ex Mormon Christians at my church. Plus I love theological debate.But I'm in the minority. Sure there's Jeff Durbin, and if you specifically type in "Are Mormons Christians" on Google you'll find others specifically talking about Mormonism. But honestly most evangelicals/protestants hear that LDS thinks we can become gods and that's all they need to hear. If someone tells me 2+2 =5 I don't really care to hear what they think about the Pythagorean theorem.
becasue you pre-suppose a falsehood. You'll never accept higher math is you pre-suppose it's wrong. If you can get over yourself and your tradition for long enough, God can operate in your life directly. We have a pitch that is no different than the first christians tlaking to their pharisee and sadducee-dominated friends and culture. The pharisees rejected Jesus saying they "have no spiritual dead" so his message of "spiritual death" was just 2+2=5 as you call it. Get out of your own way and let God operate.... he will not let you swallow false doctrine if you pray about it and ask him directly.
The mean ones are the Calvinists like James White and Jeff Durbin I would barely call them Christians as a traditional Christian myself. Reformed theology of Luther and Calvin are Deterministic so they see everything from an entitled Elect super christian view... the Chosen while exhibiting none of the Fruit of the Spirit. 😢 Don't feel too bad because they treat other Christians the same way!
It saddens me to see our Christian brothers and sisters spending their energy to attack other Christians in 2023. In a time where Christianity as a whole is mocked and degraded, we should be sticking together.
They are mocked because they are so mean have you listened to some of the evangelicals on RU-vid? They turn people away from Christianity especially young people.
Evangelicals have rejected any kind of apostolic authority for the dogma that they are the arbiters of their own truth via the Bible and the Holy Spirit (ie the Bible says what I have predetermined it says and means). And when you are the arbiter of truth it becomes a core value to prove that you are right and everyone else is wrong. Because if you were to be wrong you are in danger of hell, and no one wants to go there. I am speaking as an adult who grew up an Evangelical. There is only heaven and hell. You go to heaven if you believe the right things and hell if you don’t. So proving your beliefs are correct at all costs is literally a matter of eternal destiny.
And evangelicals like to go after “Mormons” because they see them as an easy target because of the significant differences in doctrine. It gives them a platform to be “right” without actually having to really dig in to their own beliefs and wrestle with the tough questions.
I followed Bethel Church at one point and have even attended services there. I don’t have anything to do with them anymore BUT I did recognize what was trying to be communicated in the Bethel clip and the RU-vidr took it completely out of context in order to prove his point. What was actually being communicated in that clip to the audience was “the personality of the Holy Spirit is like the genie from Aladdin. The way the genie interacts with Aladdin in their relationship is the way I experience the Holy Spirit’s relationship with me”.
If their eternal souls depend on being correct about God. Wouldn’t they have every motive to actually find the truth irregardless of their feelings on the matter? Why try so hard for the perception of being correct, when the possibility exists that they might be wrong, and end up in hell for it?
If their eternal souls depend on being correct about God. Wouldn’t they have every motive to actually find the truth irregardless of their feelings on the matter? Why try so hard for the perception of being correct, when the possibility exists that they might be wrong, and end up in hell for it?
An evangelical classmate of mine in my german 2 class last year made a very big deal of mocking and hyperbole-izing my beliefs. He started by asking if I had multiple wives(I was 15, mind you), turning it into I must not be admitting to it because one of them was pregnant, which he proceeded to yell to the entire class. He then (fairly ironically, yes, but despite my protests against his Neanderthal level jokes) pulled out a little mini copy of the declaration of independence(on a side note, ????????), and said "This is the only Book of Mormon I need." This was the first week of school. I don't think I went a week without a Mormon "joke," criticism, ridiculous question, accusation, etc., etc.
REPENT!!!! REPENT OF YOUR EVIL WAYS AND DEMONIC DOCTRINE!! THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO FATHER GOD, THROUGH JESUS, GOD!!! CREATOR OF ALL AND CREATOR OF lucifer! REPENT!!!
Just a thought about the name change, there are those who HAVE changed for the better and opened up dialogues to our church due to the name change. DBoyce, Pastor Jeff, etc. Have treated us with more respect and curiosity now that we embrace our name change. I think it's more of a weeding out the tares kinda thing. We are definitely in the last days. You guys rock, thanks for all your opinions and knowledge!
It doesn’t make sense at all to me why they act this way. I’ve heard some say, that they are trying to save us from our fallen state. And that’s what I don’t get. If we are already predestined to go to hell, and they are predestined to go to heaven, then what does all their preaching, and trying to save us even matter?
YES!! I literally just made this same comment then saw yours. Either we’re predestined or not…if we’re predestined Jesus will come to us as I’ve heard them describe their “call” from God.
That’s only the Calvinists. They believe they are already the elect, and they interpret scripture correctly and infallibly. They believe in limited atonement not universal. They are trinitarians, an extra-biblical doctrine put forth by the philosophies of men mingled with scripture. They believe in sola scriptura. An unbiblical belief that came about hundreds of years after Christ walked the earth. I am surprised they’re still in business… and it IS a business!
@@Eagle_Powers I’m guessing you are evangelical? Can you answer my question? Do evangelicals believe in predestination at all? Actually curious and wanting to know…
I served my mission from 94 - 96 in Southern California. Saugus, Burbank, Ridgecrest, the valley, Granada Hills and Quartz Hill. I ran into these type of people all the time. I never understood why they were so angry. They used the same tropes back then.
34:00 to 36:30 Cardon this rant is epic. I am so with you!!! Spot on 😂😂😂 Oh, you guys changed your name? Ok cool, you're all good now haha I love the dichotomy you present about "we're Christian, but not THAT kind of Christian!" Perfect!
Love how The Beat guy literally was like "Are Mormons Christian? Let's see how they measure up to Evangelical Christianity". Not Christianity as a whole, but just one sect of Christianity. As though it's a foregone conclusion that Evangelicals are closest to Christianity.
"Ye fools and blind" "Ye serpents, ye generation of viper's, how can ye escape hell and damnation" "Ye are of the father the devil and the lusts of your father ye will do" Was that negative energy from Christ? I get your guys point, but let's not take it too far behaving like a stern rebuke is not appropriate at times.
As to the first example, why is it wrong to strongly call out false teachers? Jesus, Peter, and Paul all did this, and used language that is arguably much harsher.
@@WARDRADIO I really don’t know what about the Fight For Truth video is slander. From my perspective he was rightly calling out a church that was making light of Easter by turning what should be a time of worship to God on a day remembering the greatest gift we have been given has been turned into a crude secular concert. His criticism was rooted in comparing the Easter service to scripture, and after rewatching his video in it’s entirety, I didn’t find anything slanderous.
Paul also said to seek peace with all men (Heb 12:14). Yes real doctrinal differences exist, but the nastiness is inexcusable, and fails the test of loving one's neighbor.
@@lemjwp1756 would you also agree calling people big heads and having bad breath is not seeking peace or loving also? Our such statements are only reserved for evangelicals!
To answer the question of the title...Because they are religious elitists. Their doctrine makes this fact inevitable. They believe, they by virtue of "accepting Christ in their hearts" are part of the predestined few who are permanently saved, because God predestined it the day they were born (or perhaps before even though they don't believe in the pre-existence). Thus nothing they do or don't do can change that. In spite of the apparent contradiction however, they do seem to constantly need to self reaffirm that they are in fact one of the predestined saved elite (as if they don't quite believe their own doctrine that they are permanently saved due to a prayer they said in their heart on a specific day of their lives). I believe one way they attempt to self reaffirm their elite status with God is to bash other humans who they believe are predestined to not be saved. While I don't deny the reality that many evangelicals are sincere and believe that by bashing LDS doctrine or history, they are in fact saving LDS souls, I believe that some of the most vitriolic and outspoken ones seem to be doing the bashing in part, as an attempt to reaffirm to themselves that they in fact are the elite, and not those other heathen people. They couldn't care one whit about the spiritual welfare of LDS or any other person they perceive as non Christian. They are also consumed by their own self importance and prestige among other bombastic evangelical crusaders calling out those nasty non Christians. If they can out bash the next vitriolic evangelical accuser, they can garner more success ($ and fame) in their industry as it were.
If you ever want proof of this, just ask an evangelical LDS basher this question..."If I live my life as an LDS and spend all my days striving to live by Christ's example, namely by loving my fellow man, loving my enemy, being charitable, honest, true and chaste, does your doctrine declare that God will not accept me on the day of judgment merely because I was LDS and believed Joseph Smith was a prophet and will thus cast me down to an everlasting hell together with Bin Laden, Hitler, Stalin, and every serial killer and rapist who ever lived ?" I have had many who answer YES to this question. To which I reply, "then I want nothing to do with your god, because such a god is trivial, unjust and spiteful." Not in any way congruent with a loving and just God. Unfortunately for them, their doctrine forces them to maintain this ridiculous affirmation because the minute they accept that to the contrary of their doctrine, God is actually merciful, fair, loving and just. Hence why he has prepared "many mansions" for His children and "degrees of glory" relative to how well they not only had faith in Christ, but actively lived that faith striving to be disciples of Christ with love, charity, honesty and chastity and continual repentance/humility. Also, that every human who ever lived must have the same opportunity to accept or reject Christ and repent or refuse to repent in their pride. Once they accept this just version of God and His plan, they are accepting LDS doctrine.
@@jtoddburt1I am curious, do you view your last paragraph as bashing Protestant/evangelical Christianity? Edit: just to clarify, not the last paragraph of your OP but your reply comment under the OP.
@@cldrawings1224 If he would actually respond to what they said, especially in the way they said it? Instead he builds straw armies to huff and puff and blow down, before moving on to beguiling little girls in red capes, to consume them with their grandmothers.
They believe that the members of there family that dont confess jesus christ as there saviour will forever burn in hell for me it would feel like hell living on earth to have to worry every day about who of my loved ones will i loose forever some people havent heard of jesus before they died thats why we do baptisms for the dead to give ancestors a choice
Although I consider myself Christian, I think it’s important to note the original meaning of the moniker. I am a Christian, because I am a disciple of Jesus Christ. I am a Latter-Day-Saint because I know I live in the days where we are awaiting the prompt return of the Savior and King of Kings, and through Him I have a hope of becoming a Saint, and so I look to it as if it has already happened, because the victory over the adversary IS already won.
How can Christians talk about the historic and Biblical evidence that contradict mormonism without being accused of being mean? Did you know the original primary source documents of Joseph Smith are being published online via the "Joseph Smith Papers online" ??? We can read FIRST HAND what Joseph and his cohorts said. Let's just read what they say together.
And by their fruits he shall know them. Why did he move to Utah if not to convert people who he now understands how to get away from his "sincere" conversations. Yes it was to understand but not so he could know truth but to understand how to formulate and angle
Because believing in a God that desires to save everyone, and that also would be powerful enough to accomplish this desire, would destroy the "self-made" image of being the only ones saved into heaven, whilst seeing all those that supposedly and inerrantly erred in doctrine, but neverthelss brought forth the "good fruits", will end up in everlasting hell. Sometimes I wonder whether the "plan of ones own Salvation" actually is a test to see whether we would be willing enough to sacrifice "our own salvation" just out of love for others, letting God know:" Hey, I love my neighbour so much, I want him to get the same and equal chance to accept or reject salvation, otherwise I will protest by rejecting my salvation". .. kind of interestnig to ponder what God what do all alone up there in heaven if all were that concerned about their neighbours... and though this certainly is a little far fetched, mayby there still is some truth to it..
Are there any evangelical channels that call their own out? I think they need more of those. But I can imagine, in their defense, that that’s hard to do when these crazies are perhaps the minority that they want to ignore. To avoid hypocrisy, I think it’s good to call out the crazies on our side, which I think we are good about doing, especially you guys - (EDIT for example: hearing about Ruby Franke and Jodi Hildebrandt this week has been incredibly sad. They’ve twisted the purest and most innocent things for their own gain. Breaking the third commandment in the most despicable way, and from what I’ve seen, it’s been hurting our church as a whole. I’m gonna be calling out family vlog and pseudo psychology culture for the rest of my life 😂). EDIT 2: great point about non-creative people being the most critical people. 100% true. That’s why there’s so many film review channels.
Good old pastor Jeff is using classic cult removal techniques hence why he is so nice. If you listen to him he’s a wrath of negativity and correction. Pretty funny to hear him correcting “P-Nelly and Holland”. Hilarious to see a soul who only has Sola Scriptura as authority correcting the man who holds all the keys Peter has. But he’s so nice as he attempts to socially engineer the Latter Day Saints while taking their money off their hands
They yell and put on an act when they preach nearly have a fit and it frightens little children its not physically or spiritually healthy they have had hundreds of splits in their congregations because of different intuperations of the bible so why wouldnt they argue with us as well they grow up fighting over scripture and loose the spirit and love
I want one of those hats like Jonah has, pretty cool. I wish the Church would chill when it comes to beards. I get it that back in 1960s long hair and beards were associated with hippies and the counter culture. We’re a long way from that now, we’re back to the way it’s mostly been throughout history where it’s very gentlemanly to have a beard. I loved working in the temple but hated that I had to shave in order to do so.
Evangelicals were the meanest people I met on my mission and it's not even close. I had grown men red in the face screaming at us( 19 year old kids) . It was wild. I think they had no outlet for their rage so when they came across mormon missionaries they saw it as a righteous outlet for their animus. Lucky us! I still remember this old agnostic that lived down the street from us who was genuinely curious and respectful in our conversations. One of the nicest people I remember from my mission.
Being mean is not ok. I'd venture to say they were most likely aware that LDS scripture views them as "incomplete" Christians that follow "incomplete" doctrine. And if they are married, it's an "incomplete" marriage as it was not done in THE LDS temple. That already will annoy someone when you go to knock on their door to share that "gospel". They view the BOM as false writings, written by a false prophet. So again, knocking on their door to share with them your view as the one true church will be most likely viewed as annoying, brazen, and possibly arrogant by many. Being a missionary from any faith is not easy, you are walking into someones personal space and presenting what you feel to be the truth. To be fair Evangelicals view LDS the same as how LDS view Evangelicals, sort of inadequate believers that are mislead and don't have the full truth. So yes missionaries will annoy many, but they should be shown kindness, however people are human and fail in the kindness department at times sadly.
Oh, it’s also cz some of them think osas is true doctrine. Therefore, since Christ already paid for their sins they can continue to sin cz it’s already been forgiven.
Wrong. Christians do not believe you can continue to willingly sin after being saved. If you think you can just continue to willingly sin then you were never saved to begin with.
Yeah Pints could use a little tough love from his Mormon brothers. He posted a.really depressing video yesterday about how bad things are in Catholicism right now...makes you scratch your head a bit.
56:25 I think this all the time!!! I have nothing against Protestants of Evangelicals but I don’t get where their indignation about Authority comes from 🤭
Cardon, I hear what you’re saying, but I don’t think President Nelson was thinking that if we stop calling ourselves Mormons that evangelicals would suddenly hold hands and sing kumbaya with us. I recall his central message was that the Saviour was offended by us referring to ourselves by a nickname rather than more fully identifying ourselves as His disciples. Personally, by stopping referring to myself as a Mormon and instead referring to myself as a member of the Church of Jesus Christ, I find that I think of the Savior a lot more often. I also have noticed that we speak the name of Jesus Christ a lot more in our meetings. I have been a member of the Church for almost 50 years and I have seen us go from a very prescribed, quasi pharisaical way of practicing our faith to one much more rooted in being guided by the Spirit. I also think the Church has taken great strides in recognizing that no matter how hard we try to do good, people can and do face some very tough challenges and difficult situations. I like to phrase it as the Church has gotten real about things and shown that we’re not all a bunch of shiny happy people holding hands (thank you R.E.M.).
Maybe somebody already mentioned it, but if not… Jonah… That daguerreotype photo probably is Joseph Smith. There is an interesting 3-hour presentation on Mormon Book Reviews with Curtis Weber that goes over all the evidence. Worth watching. A much less informative but easier to digest version is on Saints Unscripted.
I love Cardon’s thought about “doing something rebellious” against the culture once in a while, but I totally disagree that abandoning the term “Mormon” was the wrong move. I think it unites us with the rest of the Christian world. If others misuse His name it’s not our fault. Also I think the “I’m a Mormon” campaign was important to help dispel myths. We need to get out of our own way sometimes and let God do His work. The gospel WILL be spread to the rest of the world, and in some ways we can’t stop it. And we should be happy about that.
The Ward Radio guys got the Anti Mormons pretty riled up on this one. Heh heh. They can give it out all day long, but they sure can't take it. Good job, fellas!!! Alma 3:16
Just simply going on my Book of Mormon archeology binge has gotten me recommendations of people hating on our faith, and I’m just like “Thanks, RU-vid! I really needed that reminder that I’m in a cult 🥲” all I did was watch a Wayne May lecture about Hopewell relics, and now RU-vid is trying to convince me that Joseph Smith is a false prophet and that the mermin cherch is abusive to its followers. JUST LET ME HYPERFIXATE ON MY BOOK OF MORMON STUFF IN PEASE PLEEEEEEAAAASSEEEE 😭
Pastor Jeff just did a video on interfaith relationships. The sad thing is that I had some negative experiences with evangelicals in Argentina on my mission. We can still make better relations though.
This is wild. Super double standard. Like as if Joseph smith wasn’t mean by marrying other dudes wives & teaching that blacks were cursed & can’t have the priesthood. Also read Joseph’s writings. The dude was as “mean” as evangelicals.
You’re lying. Joseph Smith never taught blacks were cursed. He baptized black freemen and ran for President on an abolitionist platform. The mob killed him in part for his abolitionist views. If you would’ve read the Book of Mormon (anti-slavery) or Joseph Smith (anti-slavery), you would’ve known this… but you don’t. Evangelicals recycle lies and perpetuate stereotypes, conflating Brigham Young statements as a secular governer of the Utah territory with the doctrine of Joseph Smith to cast aspersions on the faith. Meanwhile, the heritage of evangelicalism is pro-slavery, pro-Jim crow, and pro-curse of Cain. The only reason our church adopted these bad views for a short period of time was because we were negatively influenced by you guys doctrinally. Stop lying. Evangelicals… please… just stop LYING for one minute. Can you do it?
First, Joseph Smith had some reason to not like "evangelicals" as they were the ones doing the persecuting. They could not honor the principles of the first amendment. Second, Joseph got along very well with christians when they are not attacking him and fellow saints.
2 evangelical channels that are good are what do you meme and bless god studios. Also cross examined does great stuff arguing with atheists. It is frustrating that a cult is pretty anything that doesn’t agree with “mainstream Christianity”
Sigh… look man… I’ll keep your comment up, but dude, you’re doing yourself a disservice. We’ve stated many time that usually the first person to complain about attractive people is usually the least attractive one… and here you are complaining about Kwaku’s attractive friends that show up in his videos. I’m not condemning or condoning his party company, I’m just asking… do you really wanna be that guy? Cause usually that guy can’t get girlz, plays lots of video games, and consoles himself in his inability to attract women in shaming them for how they dress. Do you really wanna be that guy?
@@WARDRADIO man your defense for sisters being sexualized to sell is crazy. Here you are. You really want to be those guys who claims to be part of Christ true church making excuses for his partner to make extra cash by using lust to sell tickets. You really want to be that guy who makes others stumbles & uses women’s bodies for advertisement. Usually ppl like yourself & Kawaku get to many girls, you’re drenched in watching porn, fornication & sexual immorality. Being a disgrace to Christ & represents Christ church poorly. U guys really want to be that guy who knows so much theology but is willing to comprise for cash. U guys really want to be that guy who is a sell out clouded by money? Do you see how you can’t condone or condemn you really want be that guy who is double minded?
@braydenweese1407 to be clear they usually aren't mean just like oh you're a cult, you're not a real Christian, or ugh you don't drink or have sex I can't do that bye.
@@carsonhawkes I just moved to Tennessee, and I can’t even believe how many people smoke outside of Utah. Even the Bible believers. The Church was really steps ahead of everyone else when the Word of Wisdom was established. I haven’t experienced any persecution of any sort, usually the first question my coworkers ask is, “Ya like Trump” and later throughout the shift, “So yer from Utah…are ya a Mormon?” I like the Bible Belt Christians, and I really like their music compared to our Utah culture. I just wonder if the stories of “Mormon persecution” are true and I want to experience that for myself. So far no one has accused me of being in a cult. I’m surprised how many didn’t know we believe in Christ though.
@braydenweese1407 I wouldn't say I've see much "persecution" only had 1 or 2 call it a cult and try to argue and send videos and stuff bashing. Most (in terms of dating) just see being a "mormon" as a deal breaker because of what their pastors etc have said about us.
@@carsonhawkes My grandad wouldn’t have gotten married to my grandmother if she hadn’t joined the Church. If I were to get married, I wouldn’t marry someone outside of the Church because I would want to take them to the temple.
I'm Canadian. I can't call myself American when oot and aboot, because that would be saying I'm from the states. The word was stolen from me😂. For the same reason I can't call myself Christian...
