Why are the Jumbo-jets disappearing? 

You should change the pillow on your right to green, so that we know which way the couch is facing.

A380s are so lovely to fly in, quiet, roomy, smooth. Of course the airline business model doesn't give a rat's arse about passenger comfort. Great video.

I remember the pride that those of us who worked on the A380 felt when it first flew, The first flight of the A350 didn't illicit the same feelings. For all its commercial failing the A380 still stirs my heart like no other Airbus type.

I've now flown from the UK to NZ by A380 over a dozen times to see my daughter and family who emigrated there. Wonderful aircraft, it'll be a sad day when it's withdrawn.

I would feel very safe & comfortable with this man piloting my flight. 👍🏼

~ That upstairs lounge in the 747 was quite nice.

Apart from the fact that I'd love you to be the Captain each time I'm in the air, your knowledge of the workings of the Aviation industry is amazing. From 14:10 you made a spot-on prediction that has actually come true. The Airbus A380 program has been scrapped and Emirates canceled a lot of their A380 orders which dealt the final blow to the entire program.

I’ve had some of my smoothest flights/takeoffs and landings in an a380- passenger

Is it just me or I get amazed seeing such giant planes take offing and landing

Two other problems that jumbo jets face. 1) Not all airports have the physical space for such planes. Fully loaded and fueled, these craft require very long runways to take off. They require more space on the ground and in the hangers. 2) It takes a very long time to load and unload such planes. For a variety of reasons, airline companies utilize inefficient methods to get passengers on and off. Turn-around time is critical to keep costs down. Trying to process hundreds of passengers faster would require utilizing multiple gates & jetways, and thus more scarce space at the terminal.

I've never been that interested in aviation but after finding your channel by chance after chasing so many RU-vid rabbit holes, I'm learning quite a lot of things. Thanks for sharing the knowledge!

throughout the video, i felt like i was in his house, having a normal afternoon chat. QUALITY.

It's gonna be so sad when we wont see these big fellas flying anymore...so majestic and beautiful...

I love the A380! It is an awesome plane to fly with! It’s like a ship.

also worth noting is that after 2001, security went crazy. no longer transferring to a new plane being a quick affair. another kick in the balls for the hub & spoke model.

I love all the Swenglish variants Petter uses, they are so logical and fill niche expressions. Shrudder is definitely in my vocabulary now.

Its a shame, I love massive giants in the sky. Its just amazing to see.

The big fellas are a *beautiful* sight to see, hope they don’t disappear

I only fly a380s on long haul out of Australia, so sad in some years they all will be gone... will make the most of them.

A flight in an A380 is just outstanding... a pity it's discontinued.

I really dislike the trend to smaller aircrafts. A 7 hour flight with Lufthansa and the 747-8 or A380 is so much nicer than the 6.5 hour flight with United where they cram people into their terrible 737-900.

I’ll miss Pan Am, they were well before my time but I’ll miss them

Not sure he how I ended up watching plane videos but love this guy's voice and accent, really easy to listen to and informative. Does this mean I am now turning into a plane nerd, lol

Some additional data. The Boeing 747 started off as Boeing's submission for the Air Force large freighter aircraft bid. This was eventually won by Lockhead with the C5. Boeing was left with a perfectly good candidate for a commercial freighter with most of the engineering already paid for by the Air Force. And this design could be converted into a passenger+freight design at very low cost. This was not happenstance--Boeing had passenger versions of the Air Force project on the drawing boards all during the C5 competition. === As you alluded to, Boeing had already announced the phase out of the 747 before AirBus committed the 380 to production for just the reasons you stated--shift away from hub-and-spoke and toward point-to-point. The decision to go ahead with the 380 was driven completely by the ego of the AirBus CEO at the time to have the biggest "dick" in the world. AirBus decision making was so screwed up at that time due to having to please all the owner countries, that he was able to push this horrible business decision through, with predictable results that we see today.

I remember my former company being the launch customer for the A380. We were the first commercial technicians/engineers for this giant...man were we proud. At least i knew i was. She wasn't the easiest to work on...that honour goes to the 777's. But she was an engineering marvel. I never got tired of watching her take-off or land. I don't think she'll be disappearing anytime soon though, at least not in the next decade. But i do agree with your points, and I'd like to add that with jet-fuel prices going crazy and the advent of budget carriers, we will see less and less of the flying behemoths. Great video 👍

I hope to get to fly on an A380 before it's retired for good. It's just super cool to see a plane that big. It's so striking when you see it taking off.

For some reason this vid turned out to be a very good business lecture.

Rewatching this after today's announcement to shut down the A380, your videos are great dear Mentour. Thank you so much !!

Emirates also very aggressively prices their connecting flights, so you get situations where flying many hours out of the way on Emirates will still be hundreds of dollars cheaper than flying the most direct routing. Not likely to attract a lot of business class travelers but will attract budget conscious coach passengers. Just looked at Melbourne to Johannesburg as an example and it was $300 cheaper on Emirates than the next cheapest option... and was $800 less than the shortest option... MEL-SYD-JNB

Great Video, a very well explained and logically organised friendly chat! I've flown long distance on Boeing 777, Boeing 747 and Airbus A380 in cattle class every time, and I must say, the A380 is by far the most comfortable, especially when flown by Qantas. Not only that but the Qantas cabin crew were polite, friendly and very hard working, the food was good, the other passengers were well behaved and the seats had decent legroom. I won't name the worst, but on one airline the passengers were noisy, bad tempered and boorish, the food was awful and I was made to feel I really was in cattle class. The flying experience depends on so many different variables, some get it right and others fail. I've experienced both.

I'm watching this in 2022, and I am really interested to find out how the COVID pandemic has affected this hub system idea. Of course, it wouldn't help the case of the jumbo jets, but in terms of fewer flights flying, is the air industry re-prioritisng the idea of the hubs again?

I heard the 747 was always referred to as the Mother and every pilot loved to fly her because of her smooth ride and ease at flying her.

I don't care so much about why they aren't using HUGE jets anymore as why does every airline suck now? I remember as a kid in the 90s the level of service on a plane was awesome! Food was good, they gave you an ENTIRE can of pop instead of a tiny cup with 4 ice cubes and 2 oz of pop. Airplanes were clean and people were polite. I've been on some flights that are less comfortable than a weekend in a county jail.

Good analysis. ;) I think it’s such a pity that the A380 hasn’t been more successful - as a passenger, it’s one of the most comfortable (not to mention the quietest) aircraft to travel on. I will actively seek it out in planning long haul trips. As others have said, there is the possibility it could have a renaissance if more airports become slot-constrained.

Crisp. Very well presented without the jargon. Nice job Mentour Pilot

Great video, excellent work. Thank you for sharing.

I flew Emirates A380 business class earlier this summer. It was amazing. I have never had business class that nice.

I always asked this question. Glad to know the answer to this amazing video. Of course I enjoyed it Petter, see you on Sunday only if you don’t have early :)

The 747 has never failed commercially. It's nearly 50 years old and served it's purpose.

It’s worth it to have 747s & A380s for flights to Australia or Asia. I hate the slimline planes because I feel cramped. The 767 is great!

Excellent video! Quite informative.

My first job out of university was on the 747-400 program. That was the single biggest modernization of that plane. It was an all new airplane that looked a lot like a 747. The winglets were the only obvious difference to the casual viewer.

The twin-engine 767 began the trend towards getting rid of four engine jets in the 1980s. Once the 777 came along and was such a huge success, this hammered the first nail into the coffin of four-engine passenger jets. Successful ETOPS certifications of the 767 and 777 said it all: Four-engine passenger jets have became instant dinosaurs.

What a GREAT RU-vidr you are! THANKS for all you do!👍👍

I'm glad i got a glimpse of aviation as a kid when it was still exciting. DC-10's, 727's, MD-80's, 737 Classic, 747's... i rode on them but was too young to really remember except for the 737 Classic. Now, every airplane is exactly the same. A quiet, plastic twin. You can't even tell planes apart unless you are an aviation enthusiast and know a lot about planes. One of the memories i cherish most is as a little kid pre-9/11, hanging out at the terminal waiting for my grandma's plane to pull in (either a 737 Classic or MD-80), and watching a passenger DC-10 come barreling down the runway and rotating right in front of me, and watching it vanish into the clouds, while the entire airport shook. I will never forget that. You don't hear the planes anymore at that same airport. If it is due to quieter planes or better sound-proofing, i'm not sure. But the airport has become a boring place.

Very nice videos you making, very interesting from a passenger side of view to see how it works, thanks and keep it up:)

11:09 "it didn't *p a n* out" cheeky pan am reference.....so funny and yet so sad

Excellent job! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. It really helps to understand the way the airlines and airplane manufacturers think

I only want to say one thing that you forgot here: ETOPS killed the behomoth. Johan.

3:24 that Delta 747 was on its last flight to aircraft graveyard in Arizona. Pretty sad to see it go.

Listening to him is like listening to a bedtime story ... comforting 🙏

REALLY enjoy your vids!! So clearly explained and interesting topics.

The focus now is on B777 and A350 , all of them doing great range and carrying good amount of passengers

Mentour Pilot your movie is so greta, you're speaking perfect fluently, like my cousin Marko Kralj, the main captain of Aribus A380 Emirates! I am so so proud of you! 👍🏼

Best aviation channel ever. I love learning about just about anything and this channel answers almost all the questions I have without having to have to dig for answers. Thank you and subscribed! Edit: I also bought the Mentour 360 app even though I’m not a pilot and a minor aviation enthusiast at best - it’s incredibly interesting and I love it and highly recommend it to anyone curious about aviation.

Not a pilot, only taken 6; flights in my life just fascinated by planes and this guy is amazing the way he describes things

I absolutely LOVE your videos!

Dear Mentour Pilot: You're very interesting, and informative. I'm enjoying your videos.

This video is why I visit Mentour. Good explanations, a bit of history, & business logic. Thank you!

Man with you it’s not just flight technology. You break everything down that has anything & everything with airplanes & aviation while keeping it interesting & informative . I also like the fact that you are a good & positive encouragement for people Who need help & guidance in their studies . Really enjoy your videos.

This was excellent. I felt like I was having a Sunday chat with a smart friend! I just wonder what types of geopolitical changes could happen to bring the "giants roaring back."

The 747 was built primarily to be a freighter for the USAF, a competition Boeing lost to the C-5 Galaxy. Then ideas changed and PanAm suggestions came to further what will become a real icon on aviation history: The Jumbo. Also, the 747 still been built and may be more orders for the 8i will be placed: Lufthansa just announced that the A380 replacement will be that version. Agree that 4 engines planes will be history but appears that the last one flying will be the 747

Recently discovered your channel, it's absolutely fantastic! :) Have watched so many of your videos already, just from an interested in aviation point of view. Would love to hear what you think on this type of aircraft, or any now we have faced a major global incident. One of the best and most informative channels out there. Pease keep the videos coming! Cheers!

I just love watching these videos because, is it Pippa?, is so likable. He is such a good teacher. I've learned so much. Love the way he says "Guys..." when talking to us.

Good video fly landed on your head at 14:34

Thank you for this segment! I wonder if anyone else remembers back when the A380 was first announced, Boeing announced a competitive response (sorry don't remember the name of it) and then a year or three later, once Airbus was fully committed to actually building the thing, announced that there was not enough demand worldwide, then or in the future, for super-jumbos and cancelled their supposedly-upcoming super-jumbo? Boeing place its bet on twin-engine widebodies designed for the upcoming direct-to ATC off-airways systems, which of course will kill the hub-and-spoke system required to support Super Jumbos. Now, I'm reading that 10 years after the introduction of the A380, sales are languishing- only Emirates and a couple of other really-long-haul airlines are even talking about buying any more and many of the companies that pre-ordered or ordered A380s have cancelled their orders. So I have to ask myself: did Boeing do this as a deception, a deliberate competitive ploy, announcing a competing Super Jumbo to spur Airbus onward until shortly after they had committed to build the A380, then suddenly cancelling the (imaginary?) Boeing rival... or did Boeing just have a better crystal ball back then than Airbus did? It's food for an interesting discussion, but as it turns out, Boeing was right and Airbus bet billions on a dwindling market segment that they predicted would boom and grow.

flew on the Boeing 787 a couple times. Technologically advanced with the swept curving wings, the composite body that's able to endure higher cabin pressure, the beautiful interior that holds 3-5-3 columns, the quietness from the engines, and the button-activated dimming windows. Nicest plane I've been on

Good job mate!!

I disagree with removing B-747 and A-380 from the service. For trans-atlantic or trans-pacific flights those smaller airplanes are horrible. We're going backwards in comfort, instead of advancing forward. Everything is downsizing, cost-reducing and shrinking in the bloody 21st century. Crisis after crisis, saving on everything, all products are getting cheap, fragile, unreliable, with planned obsolescence built-in.

The other major problem with the super jumbo is that airports don't want to spend the money to accommodate them. The airport operators don't want to build new taxiways, aprons, gates, and maintenance hangers that are big enough for a super jumbo to fit.

The 747 was also the prettiest commercial aircraft that ever flew our skies. Just my favorite. I am nostalgic about it. Even remember, as a young boy, I stood on the tarmac in front of that aircraft looking up, totally in awe.

A lot of great information... you explained the situation very well....thanks

Few years ago around the end of September, beginning of October, I took a flight from Houston to Seattle. It was a night flight, think last one for the day, but it was totally empty. I think out of the maybe 400 seats, less than 50 were taken. Quietest and most disturbing flight I've ever been on. But it was a lot roomier, so there's that.

Globalism was promising a great future in the '90s. I think, Europeans were anticipating an uplift in per capita income especially for China and India (3 billion people in total). That would trigger a sizable increase in intercontinental travel, that would require dozens of A380s in service, which did not realize.

I can't stop watching your videos mate! Very very interesting channel!!!

Thanks for a very illuminating talk about these large airliners.

I've flown Emirates A380 between Moscow and New Zealand and return about ten times in the last four years (all the way, in the last couple of years, on two or three A380 flights). In January my wife did it for the first time. "Just a plane" she said. This week she flew from Dubai to Auckland on an Emirates 777 (refuelling in Bali). Her reaction: "That was a big mistake! It was awful, the seat was tiny and uncomfortable, it was noisy -- I'm only going that far on an A380 in future!" Maybe the 787 is ok too ... I haven't been able to find anyone flying one on a route I've travelled yet.

I hope to at least once in my lifetime be able to fly on a 747 before it dies out as a passenger jet 😢

Very interesting history on route strategy and design application ! I really enjoyed this video !

VERY informative. Thank you.

Thanks Mentour for the great video and hello from Dubai! Can you please do a video about how the 747 cargo planes manage to design their huge opening nose while keeping the plane pressurised?

Very sad to see those 747s disappearing, can't see much at the airport anymore :( They're a glorious flying machine!

OMG I love your videos! good job you done there helping people to know more about aviation!

This is all fascinating. Great channel.

Aw, I'm gonna miss the big fellas..

11:47 most definately not.Maybe they would shut down an assembly line for the complete plane,but they will 100% make spare parts for existing ones for a decades to come.

Man... You are so good!! Thanks for your dedication!!! I love the 747 and I hope to see her flying for so many many years!!!

Thank you so much... Very interesting topic .. very informative 😃😃😃

The next generation of narrow bodies really need the features in the Dreamliner or the A350 if they're going to go for so long - windows, air pressure, mood lighting... I remember flying on Old 737s on short haul flights in India, and the airconditioning was so bad I smelt some kerosene and felt like some carbon monoxide was in my blood by the time I landed. The longest I ever flew in a 737 NG was Malaysian, to Singapore and Bali, and that was much better, but still the Dreamliner was in a totally other category - fresh as a daisy.

honestly i dont mind paying more just dont treat economy like cattle

Great video, very informative. Thanks.

Great video. Thank you.

Four years later: Emirates is the most successful airline operating those jumbos

Well explained. In addition I think its a question of affordability. The Arab airlines such as Emirates, Qatar and Etihad have the money to afford these Jumbo jets, this is money most airlines in the world don't have. I have flown on Emirates and Qatar on their 787s on routes to USA and South Africa, their service in coach/economy class is amazing (excellent). If you compare the service in coach on most American airlines to either Qatar or Emirates you can see a clear difference as to which airlines have the money to provide you the best service. Just the amount and quality of meals and snacks provided by Qatar and Emirates in coach are far much more than you are provided on most U.S airlines. The amount and quality of free amenities provided by an airline tells you alot about what they can afford.

This is one of the best pilot videos out there. All power to our brother. He’s great.

Excellent video, very streamed lined reasoning without technical jargon.

thanks for such an interesting video. I hope the Airbus A380 can continue flying around the world. I am saving up for a trip to Seychelles for 3 of us, with A380 first to either Dubai or Abu Dhabi

I flew on the 747 to New York in 81 fantastic flight

Cracking video and well explained, Thank you:)

Thanks very good video--thoughtful and in-depth analysis