Why Are These MAC Lipstick Shades SO Different Now? 🤔 Let’s Talk About It…

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@juliagoolia72 13 дней назад

Meanwhile Revlon Cherries in the Snow has been the same for 50 years

@lesliemcmillan2971 12 дней назад

Bingo. It can be done.

@wendyward1157 10 дней назад

Just love this color ❤

@sonjawilliams989 4 дня назад

Oh I LOVE Cherries in the Snow as a nail polish. NOTHING is even close to that colour. I can pick that colour up from a mile away 😅

@swanlake4483 14 дней назад

I get exactly what you are saying but these shifts are EXTREME with MAC. If they can’t match the color at least somewhat, they need to cancel the color and come up with a new name. It’s simply not fair to the customer and is fraudulent.

@Phoenixhunter157 14 дней назад

Yup. Just discontinue it and rename it. We’re not stupid

@cm_mb 14 дней назад

I think MAC discontinues shades all the time.

@Phoenixhunter157 14 дней назад

@@cm_mb except for the ones they continue for 30 years with the same name but they’re a completely different shade. And you start to wonder if you’re losing your mind. Like why does this lipstick look different on me now 😂I swear it used to be my favorite……

@sonyasever7625 14 дней назад

Strongly agree. Make a new name, stop deceiving and gaslighting people

@cm_mb 13 дней назад

@@Phoenixhunter157 That would be so annoying!!😆

@naniidelaisla 14 дней назад

Soo It’s a 30 year old telephone game

@thelipsticklesbians 14 дней назад

Basically yes

@eveningstar8581 13 дней назад

Exactly LOL!😂😜

@SephoraBelle 14 дней назад

Love Erin Parsons, her videos are beautiful and you just know she feels passionate about the history of make-up. Delighted to see Alexis mentioning Erin. Both are brilliant women.

@thelipsticklesbians 14 дней назад

Love Erin’s content ❤️

@mercedesvelasquez8781 14 дней назад

@@thelipsticklesbiansWhat happened to M.A.C og lipstick shade "O" but once the make up artist's sold their company to we all know who the shade "O" was completely different. The og shade was the best one and Erin Parson showed a short clip showing the og shade compare to the new shade so I too am confused on why they changed the shade when it was sold to Estee Lauder..

@tara_27244 12 дней назад

@@mercedesvelasquez8781 O was an amazing and unique colour.

@NamasteSammie 11 дней назад

Came here to leave the same comment ❤ Erin is incredible

@dogwalker97 14 дней назад

This is reminiscent of what happened to MAC Warm Soul Mineralize Blush…a moment of silence to honor the original shade that once was among us

@xoxjelloxox 14 дней назад

The change it? When??

@dogwalker97 13 дней назад

@@xoxjelloxox it was a long time ago. My best guess is 2014-2015. There was an uproar at the time because MAC/Estée Lauder kept telling people the shade had not changed when in fact it had changed.

@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens 13 дней назад

And they LIED about it!! That's the worst part! 🤬

@xoxjelloxox 13 дней назад

@@dogwalker97 what changed?

@dogwalker97 12 дней назад

@@xoxjelloxox the color of the shade changed. You can search in the words “MAC warm soul blush old color” to find a video that shows both shades

@taintedlife2618 14 дней назад

I have a Myth from about 2010 and it is much closer to the older one. They can use watches online of the old version and match it up that way too. They tried it.

@lisad8551 12 дней назад

Spice lip liner..ugh it's orangey now. I was told by a MAC exec they are going to relaunch and go back to legacy color. YAY

@anonmous4468 11 дней назад

I hope this is true

@hannahbanana570 11 дней назад

I hope so too

@audreysmith6052 10 дней назад

Oh my gosh in the 90s I had a MAC lipstick called Spice (I think?) and I absolutely loved it. I saw they still have a pencil of the same name (I had the lipstick and pencil) so I looked at the swatch online and it just didn’t look the way I remembered it. Memory can be a tricky thing, but the color I saw just didn’t trigger anything for me. I really wish I could find that lipstick again!

@lisad8551 8 дней назад

I was at a MAC workshop..so hoping the regional rep has good intel🙂 Anyone know a good dupe for spice in the meanwhile?

@anonmous4468 8 дней назад

@@lisad8551 Kevin Aucoin in Devine or mob beauty in M1990

@MakeupMobster 12 дней назад

There’s more to this though, If you go into the drugstore and really study the lipsticks or glosses or even shades of foundation there are slight differences even within the same shade. Go look. Pick up two of the same items in the same shade. I see this because I used to do color matching at my job. I can see the difference if there’s a 10% shift in yellow or red. My eye is trained at this point. No two bottles are exactly the same. Each batch is going to have slight variations. That’s because the ingredients are hand poured and measured. They can be off slightly depending on if the person poured every single drop of that mix into the mixer. Also, some pigments oxidize over time or once they hit the air. WHO even knows if her original Myth is really the right shade.

@tara_27244 12 дней назад

I was going to say that. She’s holding a lipstick from the 90s which I’m sure has shifted over time too - same way perfume or food would not look smell or taste the same 30 years later.

@miriamthompson905 2 дня назад

It's the same with paints. I worked at a coating factory years ago and there were tiny variations between batches. We had equipment to measure color. It was a neat process.

@tara_27244 12 дней назад

She’s also holding a lipstick from the 90s which has also shifted over time - same way perfume or food would not look smell or taste the same 30 years later.

@PerfectPinkiePants 12 дней назад

Very good point! Hadn't thought about it that way

@Missfoxtooyou 12 дней назад

Unless it’s McDonalds. 😂😂😂😂😂

@funkytime69 11 дней назад

@@Missfoxtooyoumcdonalds does not count as food or perfume or makeup

@mikayla9146 14 дней назад

This reminds of a game from childhood. You whisper something to someone, and they whisper it to someone else, on and on for several people. The original sentence is vastly different from what the last person claims the whispered sentence to be.

@anisha9540 13 дней назад

Haha omg yes! That's the best explanation!

@eveningstar8581 13 дней назад

Exactly LOL

@Khaleesi_Jack 12 дней назад

Yeah, that’s called the ‘telephone game’

@sirilion 14 дней назад

thank you for this explanation! it's always so interesting to see the behind the scenes of what could've happened

@perfumegarden1 12 дней назад

I remember buying my first Mac lipstick Icon in the 90s for 13 dollars. Back then they focused on lipsticks now the brand has become all over the place and expensive like everything else

@mnssiregar 14 дней назад

4 minute clip that gives us training on lipstick production. Thank u for sharing your knowledge with us ❤

@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens 13 дней назад

*Please...what EYESHADOW ARE YOU WEARING??! I must know before I die...* 😫

@TheBeastBandit 10 дней назад

Milani’s Teddy Bare used to be my PERFECT MLBB shade. Now it’s the most coffin-ready mauve that I HATE WITH A PASSION. Why do brands do this 😭

@josephliberatore1786 12 дней назад

You make beauty products exciting again. I love all the knowledge you share with us. Thank you ❤

@rachel8621 14 дней назад

I’d love to see a video explaining some of the factors behind shifts in foundation undertones. For instance, heritage makeup brands whose foundation shades leaned pink in the 1960s to 1990s started to lean orange in the 00s. And now in the 2020s there’s a demand for brands to cover all undertones i.e. pale/light/medium/deep/dark neutral, pale/light/medium/deep/dark olive, warm (pink/red/yellow), cool (blue/light yellow). What is the chicken and what is the egg, do you think, in these default undertone shifts by big makeup brands? I believe the shift to orange being the default undertone from the 00s onwards was due to a shift towards fake tanning by consumers, and the opportunity for brands to sell 2 foundation shades at a time per consumer (your tan shade and your natural shade). I’d be interested to know what you’ve observed. As you allude in this video, some elements of colour shift over time can be human error while other elements of shift can be deliberate nudging of the product to make room for a “new” shade.

@PopsiclePeople 14 дней назад

Can you PLEASE PLEASE tell me what shadows you’re wearing? One of them reminds me SO much of a MAC discontinued one that I miss like crazy (please)

@taintedlife2618 14 дней назад

Is it VEX?

@PopsiclePeople 14 дней назад

@@taintedlife2618 no- digit

@Monicalala 10 дней назад

Please which eyeshadow are you wearing?

@Hithere-ej9jv 9 дней назад

Mind blown. Thanks for breaking it down.

@oldmothergooseV2.0 14 дней назад

Thank you for this explanation, it makes a lot of sense

@kiaraneves8852 14 дней назад

Excellent summary!

@sonjawilliams989 4 дня назад

Dayum!!! Like GIA with scoring Diamonds.. Human differences! Wow!

@lindsaytoles2023 14 дней назад

I love when you drop knowledge! And the way you explain it makes it so interesting!

@trime7791 14 дней назад

thanks for explaining this

@silviacizeta2878 14 дней назад

This is really interesting! Thank you for your imput!!!

@lukeryanjames 11 дней назад

Your channel is one of my favorite. I learn so much every time I watch

@thelipsticklesbians 11 дней назад

Happy to hear that! Thank you for being here! ❤️

@TamaraLeaMusic 14 дней назад

I loved how you started the first 10 seconds of this video! With love, kindness and the manufacturing process. This is such a Lovely channel ! ❤

@johannahoneyman697 14 дней назад

Fascinating!

@klingonartdealer 14 дней назад

That’s so fascinating!!!

@anniebells_xo 12 дней назад

HOW is this so fascinating 💕

@gkeller8520 5 дней назад

So happy I still have my old Spice lip pencil from the 90's that my mom bought me in the 8th grade saved in case the color shifts on the Spice liner, it's old but was preserved well and the shade is in tact, the new one I have to say is missing that punch that my old spice pencil gave me. And one thing I do remember as a teen was I all my mom's MAC make up was from Canada. Save you old MAC lipsticks protect them so the color doesn't go off & a company called Three Custom remakes the shade as close as possible and has a lot of old shades on file.

@Shazy1212 14 дней назад

Absolutely fascinating! I work in distribution in the consumer electronics world. Brands like Samsung and LG are very consistent. However, with something like a Vizio tv the difference in a single model are wildly different. You could see as many as four panel manufacturers. (the screen responsible for the picture you see and ultimately the quality of the tv)

@Silva-je3bu 9 дней назад

Very interesting. Thank you.

@sheerechoes 10 дней назад

Your nails look gorgeous I'd love to see a short on them!

@misscaptainL 11 дней назад

Why are they swatching it on someone’s arm for comparison instead of on a material with a standardized set of colors?

@juliawidmaier5334 8 часов назад

THIS! That's a terrible way to do color matching

@Paula.dot.c 14 дней назад

Wow that is so informative! you are the best!❤

@Jessicalovesmichael 9 дней назад

Suuuper interestiiiiing

@WhineNot 14 дней назад

So interesting! You are doing with cosmetics what Paula Begoun did for skincare back in the day. Keep the enlightenment coming. 💄

@ankigatoni6967 9 дней назад

Love you explaining that! It is the same with food development. Also there is the term batch to batch variation. Was the original really manufactured 30y ago? What about deterioration of the product itself, oxidation etc?

@MarissaEllie 14 дней назад

I love both yours and Erin’s content. I have a question for you, so I’ve been looking into more fragrances and makeup. And I’ve been trying to find fragrances that is a mixture of feminine and masculine but settle and also exotic. Do you have any recommendations?

@jerometighe1241 13 дней назад

And some formulas get changed because they can no longer get supply of a certain ingredient so they have to get the next best thing or stop making certain things all together

@loveit7484 14 дней назад

Excellent ecplination!

@CleoGravel 14 дней назад

Wow 😮 thank you for explaining the science behind all the different products 😊 really appreciate the longer videos 😊 had too watch the video again lol knowledge is power 😊

@thelipsticklesbians 14 дней назад

You are so welcome!❤️

@sherleengibb9454 14 дней назад

Thank You for the fact you always explain in clear terms what we all want to know. Love the science behind makeup.💄

@Khaleesi_Of_Kittens 13 дней назад

If it were my brand, I think I'd be pretty damn vigilant to ensure they're as close as humanly possible. Because Erin is holding 2 completely DIFFERENT shades. On my skin tone, it would absolutely MATTER. 😳

@ouidarajorn2926 13 дней назад

Agreed. If the shade shift is that extreme just give it a new name.

@eveningstar8581 13 дней назад

Thank youuu lol!

@jackie-minjiewu5483 6 дней назад

What lilac color is on your eyes?

@Hellohannah178 4 дня назад

Afew nyx butter glosses have changed too

@barbaralachance5836 14 дней назад

Samantha Rhavandal will be happy to know that's probably what happened to Warm Soul 😅 he favourite Mac Blush

@becxification 8 дней назад

Where did you get your earrings from?! They are gorgeous 😍😍😍

@democratresistance7847 14 дней назад

can u explain how bullet lipstick is made in the silicone? like special ones >:

@user-ub5jc1xn3g 11 дней назад

Raw material changing over time makes sense. However I don't buy human error. Aren't ingredients weighed and measured? That allows a formulation to stay the same everytime. This explanation makes no sense. No one is cooking from scratch each time a batch is made.

@SMKNGRL420 13 дней назад

So much love for all these beauty queens thanks loves ❤

@pichsovathyaroth7086 13 дней назад

Hi dear! I have some MAC lipsticks and liquid. I want to know how long can you use them after opening? Also how about Dior Lip maximizer, Dior Rouge, Dior lip addict shine, and Dior Lip balm? I cannot fine info of how long can we keep them after opening.

@Call-me-Al 9 дней назад

It always says on it, at least in the EU: there will be a little symbol on it that says a number followed by an uppercase M. For instance 6M, 12M, 18M, 24M. It means that number of months. 6M = 6 months, 12M = 12 months, and so on. Mascara is usually 3 to 6M.

@meee4217 4 дня назад

They discontinued my ride or die, called Hot Tahiti. Dammit.

@heatherotis6512 13 дней назад

I love the knowledge you have in the brain of yours. ⭐️ I feel smarter with every video of yours that I watch. Thank you ❤️ slowly building my RU-vid channel. I am wanting to do MORE makeup content but I lack the confidence in my knowledge of everything. You are helping me SO MUCH ❤ Sending love and hugs from Minnesota.

@DeeLynn 11 дней назад

I just want to memorialize the colour Chintz. My only MAC lippy from the 90s that seemed this black woman friendly. 😊

@Mezsworld 11 дней назад

Skin cell turn over and wrinkles theory 😊

@mangana215 14 дней назад

It's the game of telephone 😂

@snicksabea 10 дней назад

I miss Trax by Mac.

@Sonicman415 11 дней назад

MAC just changed the formula of some of their most iconic lipsticks… shit though. Crying 😭 been wearing MAC lipsticks since they launched in the USA.. shite. I grieved when Lauder bought the company.. yet I still wear their lipsticks. Not sold on the new formula. Not.

@annettecano506 14 дней назад

😮😮😮

@luvzdogz 14 дней назад

It's humans doing it... for now! 🤖😉

@sallyfields2385 14 дней назад

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@tamarblackburn4312 3 дня назад

There must be a better way omg

@joannemadden7449 14 дней назад

NO, I NEED THE OLD LIPSTICK, everything else turns peach on me and it looks horrible. I need the true nude!!!

@danemichelle4172 14 дней назад

This is where AI would be better than human determinations, to make sure of color consistency.

@legomego3333 14 дней назад

And here I just thought it was 30 years of sitting around that made the lipstick Erin was holding up a different different color!

@taylorwaterman7316 14 дней назад

My opinion? Shades are a product of their time. Like back in the 2010's neons were very in. Back in the 90's people liked primary colors. 70's were very yellow/brown earth tones. Etc... Also when they make the 'same product' when the company that owns it changes there is a tendency to want to make it cheaper. Cheaper pigment = color change. Makes sense that they keep the name and just change the shade a bit if it does not really sell. At the end of the day it's all about the $$$$$$.

@Plainejan 14 дней назад

Its Estee lauders fault... Just kidding ❤❤❤❤❤❤

@VelvetCyberpunk 6 дней назад

So there's no point in falling in love with a makeup shade.

@KH-ik3jg 14 дней назад

Educate 💄

@rossanafioravanti8526 13 дней назад

Anyway, people are disapponted. So.

@Siobhan_OLaoghaire 12 дней назад

That was too complicated for me to understand. 😢

@soude85 6 дней назад

Wow, that’s actually sad…

@ashleylala4293 14 дней назад

I hate the changing MAC lipsticks. I really miss the old Giddy shade, it’s still pretty but it’s not the same. You would think a company that big would hire a better color expert who knows their shit. Or use a computer.

@feliciacooper6263 14 дней назад

💄🫦

@JH-kw8zy 14 дней назад

I get the ick when I see huge changes like that. Feels like the brands don't care and just want your money. I always assume that a few people dream up and produce a specific color they wanted in their brand. The fact that they can't bother to smear the original lipstick on a sheet of printer paper and laminate it or whatever to keep matching it to the original swatch just makes me feel like they say f it, we need a peach in the line and this one will do. Did yall not have a vision???? And refrencing on skin and just hoping you dont get a tan or low iron is so stupid and lazy in my opinion. My own skin has changed so much over time. And relying on a single humans' eyes and their hairy arm and hand is insulting and insane.

@ashleylala4293 14 дней назад

Everything was better in the 90s. Our puppet presidents still sucked but at least they didn’t have dementia and fall going upstairs.