On the one hand I feel sorry for that old woman for getting lost on the wrong road and not having a human to talk to about it, but also: *"BuT i DoNt WaNNa PaY a BiLL"*
I don't know about that road, but the toll bridge near where I live has signs for miles before, and even says last exit before toll. And that's all for a 50 cent toll, I'd imagine it would have the same if not better signage for the road he was on.
@ScarceCastle2 Nobody wants to be stolen from. We were told "Toll free in '73" by the Illinois governor and now it's 2021, the toll booths have permanent structures built into them, and over $1.7 billion dollars is stolen from toll goers annually according to the 2018 Illinois toll report. Lies on top of lies
@@Tracert-mc1hu The Tacoma narrows bridge is more like $7 one way (the other way is free.) They warn you though, must pay attention, which is not a bad idea while driving anyway.
Another great video, Rob! When we visited Orange County a few years ago, I somehow ended up on a Toll Road, and had to go online a few days later to pay a couple of dollars. It would have been nice to automate that process.
From personal experience (loving in Australia and playing euro truck simulator 2 also this video) i have forud that australia has some of the safest toll roads in the world. First of all there are no booths at all it is all electronic and you need a pass. However, if you don't have a pass, a camera will take a photo of your registration plate and then send you an invoice in the mail. This is very safe as tourists or people who don't have a pass can still drive on toll roads with out needing to stop.
Covid resulted in the entire northeast and i assume the entire USA going pure electronic tolling. And pay by plate is awesome in that you don't need a transponder if you only rarely drive on a toll road. (Usually other viable options exist and you can tell your GPS to avoid tolls if are really bothered by them, but i suspect you will pay more in gas to do so, especially with todays $5/gallon gas)
Pay-by-plate here in ny led ezpass to send me extremely delayed bills that (as a result) were fined, leading me to build a >$2000 balance on my account. Getting a hold of them, writing letters, none of it worked. They do not care. I'd highly recommend everyone to just get a pass because you can't trust their billing system.
Agreed, they should either be free from the government, as it’s part of your taxes, or privatized and leased out by the government, which can allow tolls. The government wants it both ways.
A lot of the taxes for maintaining roads usually come from fuel purchases. Cars have since gotten more fuel efficient (less taxes from buying gas), heavier (more road wear, the formula for which involves weight^4), and more numerous (suburban commutes). Hence a trend towards usage-based pricing along with the relatively flat tax of registering ownership.
Can’t wait until they knock down the rest of the old toll plazas on the PA Turnpike now that the turnpike is cashless. All the new ramps have the gantry system, I’ve always hated the interchange in King of Prussia by the mall where intersects with 76 non-toll Rd. portion which is the Schuylkill expressway, 422 and 202 and all the smaller roads around the King of Prussia Mall and that big shopping district.
@Jake Spindler That's not EZ Pass, that's whatever state DOT you're getting your tag from. For example, Virginia has a deposit for the tag, a minimum balance requirement, a credit card on file for automatic replenishment, and an annual "inactive" fee if you don't use it in 12 months. But over the boarder in West Virginia, they don't have a deposit or a minimum balance, but you do pay an annual usage fee of $35, but that also lets you use the WV Turnpike for free. So, in three or four round trips, it pays for itself.
I'm using I-Pass for 2 years (EZ-Pass version of Illinois). No maintenance fee and no minimum balance. Very convenient !! Changed address to NJ. Still works great!
There is a thing called Uni (originally E-Pass Xtra) sold by Central Florida Expressway Authority (started being sold last year). www.cfxway.com/uni/ it works in 18 states (out west to IL, KY I think)
@@boosteddaily1294 there's other routes you just gotta set your navigation app to "avoid toll roads" and give yourself some extra time. Unless if you're driving into NYC, yeah it costs like $15 or something just to get into the city by car but for the most part if you're not in the cities like NYC, Philly, DC you can avoid it pretty easily. NJ property taxes are high so a lot of people live in PA and commute to NJ or NYC because the cost of living is lower here. Idk how much that helps just stuff I've noticed living here
@@Lrix The parts of the east coast I visited were very nice to me. I've been to Philly, and traveled on the freeways? and turnpike on the south/west part of New Jersey. I really liked that area. I'll try to copy my source but it was a youtube commentor and he said, he bought a home for 185,000 dollars and he pays or will pay 8,500 a year in property taxes in New Jersey! That's a lot.
@@boosteddaily1294 I live in upstate NY and our property tax is among the worst in the country. The upside is housing costs are relatively cheap unless you live near NYC (I live clear the other end of the state nearly 400 miles from NYC). My property tax on about a $200K house is about $5,400 a year, but I just live in the town and not the village, so I avoid village tax, which would add an extra $2K or so. As a comparison, I know a guy who has a $230K house in Colorado that pays about $1,300 in property tax. However, his $230K house is about 1,400 square feet on a 1/8 acre plot, where mine is about 1,800 square feet on about 2/3 acre, plus I have a ~400 sq ft. outbuilding with electric (which admittedly adds to my property tax, but not significantly) So you get more for your money here in terms of property, but the taxes are terrible.
yep, pa turnpike toll booths just take a picture of your plate now if you dont have ezpass. all of the toll roads around me in maryland and virginia have been cashless for years now.
@@nicktune1219 I'm sure it may have changed by now, but used to Alaska treated that as private info and wouldn't share your identity. Effectively, if your car was registered in Alaska, all license plate tolls were free. Source: my Uncle who registers all his vehicles to his summer home in Alaska for this reason.
Complaining about taxes is why this happens. The volume of roads and repairs needed exceeds the amount of money collected from taxes. Roads are expensive. If you don't like it, try living without them.
@@AlexandarHullRichter, no. You already pay massive amounts of road tax as well as other taxes. This is just another way for the greedy government to extort more money out of you.
@@fernando18455 I’m tired of hearing this. Old is not an excuse to be a jerk. He clearly stated he didn’t work there yet she kept yelling at him. No excuse.
@@nachc6459 actually not all toll roads are taxpayer funded depends on the state. My state Illinois for example, the toll roads are only paid for by tolls. No taxpayer money is given to them
Interesting. My family and I just found out about “pay by plate” while planning a trip this summer. According to official websites with toll info, we will have a 48 hours to pay the tolls online. It will be interesting to see how well it works.
The only thing about pay by plate is it takes a while for them to send the bill. Atleast in the northeast with the NY Thruway and Mass Pike. When the bill arrived i just scanned the QR code and was taker right to the website. I eventually bought an easypass because its cheaper in the long run, but pay by plate is awesome if you only use the highway once in a blue moon.
Sometimes they don’t send a bill until it’s a fine… Logon online and check for it there, don’t just assume since you haven’t been contacted you aren’t going to get a bill. It’s not fun I know!
@@jasonreed7522 agreed. I traveled on I-90 a several months back and took like 2+ months to get the toll charge in the mail. Kind of pissed me off seeing an “administration fee” of $2 and change. Normally from Syracuse to Rochester it was $3.65 each way, but now it’s like $10
@@joeylantis22 I tried that because i was bored and Flordia never mailed me the (several) tolls i didnt have change to pay when i was there and the site just won't accept my license number so i can assume that's why i never got it. Perks of having a motorcycle i guess...
NC here. Pretty sure the only toll road we have is a section of the 540 beltline around Raleigh. Fully electronic bill by mail which makes it a piece of cake if you happen to go through it, plenty of other viable alternatives if you don't want to pay. Hell, one of the biggest intersections is right near the end of the free part. Everything east of that is also free. I've literally used the toll section twice, both by accident
@@jonstefanik9400 finally a state that actually held up on the deal to remove tolls. Wish more states listened. Delaware and Maryland, I’m looking at you. JFK Highway’s tolls should be long gone by now.
I moved to a new place this past year and we have toll roads here but I haven't seen the need to use them. Only a few times would have it really have benefited me and saving 5-10 minutes isn't worth the hassle of signing up etc. Maybe I could be sold but I haven't looked into the costs yet.
You don't need to set up your account in the state where you live if it is a multi-state system. Ohio has upfront costs and maintenance fees (at least it used to) but on a trip to the east coast I set up an EZ-Pass account at a PA rest stop. They do want to maintain a minimum balance of $25 to $35 in the account, but no upfront cost and no maintenance fees. Besides convenience (huge) the EZ-Pass tolls are less than paying at each toll booth. One one-week long trip through several eastern states saved me more than the $35. A few years ago we moved to home near the Ohio Turnpike and use it a couple of times per month.
Ultimately the fault of road tolling is that its meaningless for the average driver. You see a toll road coming up and you pay it. Your behavior hasn't changed nor have you alleviated any traffic on the route. I think that commercial drivers should pay tolls (which is already done via truck stops) and workers should be paid for their commute times along with distributed first and last hour shift. say come in at 7:15 and out at 4:15 while another firm might use 7:30 to 4:30.
@@Furiends When I plan my route with my TomTom GPS, it asks if I want to avoid the toll road. I generally don't as I want the fastest trip. But, I could and often the non-toll trip is only couple minutes longer.
@Professional shit poster Remember how long it took them to put cup holders in cars? Now they are close to flushing out your "throttle" while you're driving and having phone sex. Finally tossing the used condom out the window, only to land on the windsheild of the driver behind you, while you suck down a cigarette. You thought that driver was annoyed when your windsheild washer fluid flew up over your roof onto their windsh'eild? lol
@@peterjszerszen If you're taking 55 to Michigan wouldn't it be better to take 80 then exiting on either 57 or Kedzie before the toll then getting on route 6 to re-enter 94 before Calumet City? Idk just seems more easier than taking all of route 6 to Indiana and get slammed by traffic either in South Holland or by River Oaks? Or even better take 57 to Lincoln Highway Rte 30 from Matteson to Ford Heights then jump on 394 to 80-94 or Keep going on 30 til you get on either interstate 65 or if you wanna bypass most of the traffic on 80-94 SH 49 or US 421 to Michigan City. I sometimes take that route to Michigan when I try to avoid traffic and tolls at the same time. Especially the Borman under construction 65 north of 30 is also under construction.
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Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan
@@scotttild Thanks, many people don't understand the concept of they're paying for it either way. All these constitutionalists act like it's their god given right to do whatever they want with no taxes and no tolls.
Interesting video, Rob! A few points: license plate recognition doesn't actually have as many drawbacks as you may think. The technology is accurate enough that 99.5%+ of plates are read accurately (look at ANPR stats in the UK). The issue with license plate based systems is a legal one; jurisdictional issues complicate the collection of toll amounts owing. Each state or toll road operator must work within enabling legislation to collect and enforce toll amounts due, even across jurisdictional lines (i.e. a New York plated vehicle must be traceable by a Florida toll road). This requires agreements between governments and many other parties, and the risk of consumer led legal action on privacy grounds, for example, is not minimal. Another point: the risk to privacy is real, considering electronic systems will store your whereabouts based on license plate readers, at all times. To avoid this caveat and comply with legislation, EU toll operators in some countries have installed a lane where users can drive through, and then get off the toll road at designated spots and pay their amounts due, and a copy of the recording of their plate is destroyed immediately. Alternatively, they may buy with cash a special transponder, which is used instead of the license plate reader in a given lane - the camera system for that lane stores plate info only for 24 hours on a loop, and only manually flagged video (say, if someone uses the lane to cheat the toll) is retained.
The hardcase version of the North Carolina QuickPass is compatible with E-ZPass in the northeast, the Peach Pass in Georgia and the SunPass/E-Pass in Florida. One drawback to sticker transponders is their inability to be moved to a new vehicle once they are placed on a windshield. So if you are going to be using a rental car, you cannot take your sticker transponder with you to pay tolls.
That bridge is still collecting tolls, right? I assume you mean the one at Hood River. I was surprised a couple summers ago when they didn't even accept cards. Just cash.
@@johnchedsey1306 the bridge I'm talking about is called Bridge of the Gods in Cascade Locks. From what I remember, they except cash only but I haven't been across it in a few years though.
Oh gosh. My bad. I should know better (lived in NE Portland for a couple of years). Subconsciously, I was thinking the 99E bypass was tolled (ODOT considered doing so at one point).
They just want to eliminate the people who collect and count the money which means another government job gone. There are people like myself who prefer to deal in cash exclusively, I also feel that considering all the taxes we pay in the U.S. that all toll roads should be done away with. I don`t think I should pay to use a road that was payed for 10 times over already.
The people California are paying for these toll roads/ fast tracks with the gas tax that we pay close to $0.75 a gallon plus DMV fees are supposed to pay for roads Bridges and highways so there's more than enough money to engineer are the freeways correctly and we shouldn't eliminate all toll roads and fast tracks.
There's 3 reasons you typically see tolls used on the East coast (not including HOT or "Lexus lanes"): 1. Expensive to build/maintain - A bridge over a long/high feature or a road that goes through terrain that isn't very flat or straight is much more expensive to build and maintain than your typical section of I-70 through Kansas. A couple of examples would be the Verrazano-Narrows Bridge linking Staten Island to Queens, a long suspension bridge that carries a total of 12 lanes of high-speed interstate traffic and the West Virginia Turnpike, which carries traffic from 2 different interstates through narrow, twisty valleys with constant elevation changes. The state collect tolls on these roads to both pay for the bonds taken out when they were built and for the upkeep, since attempting to maintain them would put an unfair burden on taxpayers who may not use the roads as often as other residents as well as having non-residents help maintain the roads they are using. 2. An "unnecessary" road that only helps save time - Sometimes the only compelling reason build a road is because it will shave 10 minutes off the drive time for people who use it. Virginia actually has a few of these. The Pocahontas Parkway provides a quick way between south Richmond and I-295 or I-64 East, but it's not like you couldn't just drive up I-95 to I-64 and make the same trip. Likewise, the Chesapeake Expressway serves people traveling between Chesapeake and North Carolina (mostly travelers headed to the Outer Banks), but a road already connected these points, albeit surface streets, so the expressway added a dedicated highway that both makes the trip quicker, but also gets cars off the surface streets. So, by imposing a toll, it helps offset the cost that wouldn't be necessary if people didn't want to use it and help save a few minutes 3. Because you're Delaware - Delaware has a pretty straight, flat section of I-95 that spans no wide rivers or has any other sort of imposing geographic feature. Yet, you are asked to pay $4 to use their 23 mile section of I-95. The only reason to do that is to pad their state coffers because I guarantee you they gross more money in a month than it takes to maintain that road in a year.
@@eaglescout1984 Those points also hold true here in Kansas(p.s. don't go insulting I-70 😉). Here we only have one toll road to my knowledge - the Kansas Turnpike. It can be bypassed, but often times it can significantly reduce your travel time. It is also probably the best maintained highway in the state and has the quietest and smoothest ride - a feat considering that our highways are generally speaking quite nice as it is.
Until there is no Gas tax going to road spending there is no need for toll roads. The gas tax raised 36 billion dollars in 2016, your telling me we need more money than 36 billion dollars to be spend on road construction and upkeep? Divided over the 4,071,000 miles of road in the USA that is 8,843 dollars in revenue per mile of road. If you consider that a mile of road can be constructed with some technology for 20,000 dollars that means every mile of road could be replaced every 2.2 years which means there is a ton of waste. There is zero reason for toll roads to exist because your average road is not replaced every 5 years let alone every 2.2 years. It's simple start using the new tech for the production and work done on roads to reduce the cost, and utilize the money taken in more effectively instead of charging people for passing a imaginary border.
No gas tax? Wait until you hear about the electric vehicle. I see Electric Vehicles using Toll Roads more often in the future, thanks to decreases in maintenance, which save money for the user to instead use on a Toll Road
The one thing that has always bothered me about these devices is the ability for the authorities to track your movements. Yeah, yeah, if you're not doing anything wrong, who cares, right? *I* care. Just because I'm not committing a crime doesn't mean I waive my right to privacy. To put a fine point on it, when I lived in the NYC metro area years ago, a criminal was tracked and caught because he had a speedpass on his car. If they can do it with criminals, they can do it with anyone.
@@SomeUserNameBlahBlah You don't have a right to endanger the lives of others. If you want to participate in society, you follow the rules of society or go live out in the middle of nowhere with no infrastructure and leave the rest of us alone.
@@SomeUserNameBlahBlah 1. 1984 is not about tracking. It's about thought control. Have you read it. 2. People who don't take a vaccine endanger herd immunity for those who are immuno-compromised or unable to take a vaccine for legitimate health reasons.
I'm so glad that there are no toll roads around here. Everytime I have to use one it makes me angry. The roads is in the same or even worse miserable state than any other road amd I already paid that road with my taxes why should I pay for it a second time.
Maintenance. Road funding is fixed $ and doesnt increase to account for inflation. This has led to reduction in revenue to maintain all roads, not just the tolls. Your money pays for all road and bridge maintenance, not just the current toll road.
@@RichardCurrie well the inflation is also something our politicans can control or not. Whatever they choose to. But in the end the citizen is always paying more
@@no-damn-alias the thing about inflation is that you always want some. Negative inflation is extremely bad. But it's important to note that it's not things getting more expensive, but rather the money is not worth as much. If it costs 10 potatoes to maintain the road but each year you are only able to buy 10 then 9 then 8 potatoes you're going to need to find alternatives. The road maintenance tax badly needs to be increased as effective tax income has stopped significantly
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Wpzvaqypav8.html at 12:00. Because the budget is fixed at 40c power gallon, because of inflation it's effectively dropped 40%. That videos a few years old now, so it's probably closer to 50%.
ATX came out a while after the 386 (if there was any confusion), and these stickers are actually a lot less than a 386. It's no more powerful than the RFID tags you find in retail stores, or the chip in your credit/debit card. Less than the power of a pocket calculator, all it does is broadcast an RFID when the coil is energized. if anything, it has a better amplifier circuit, so it broadcasts a longer range, but for "computing power," it's basically a ROM with a 1-bit data bus, a binary counter to read out the memory on that ROM, and an amplifier, all on a single integrated circuit. You could easily build that on a breadboard. The tollbooth simply notes that your ID has passed a particular station, and charges your account appropriately.
GOOD NEWS: EZ-Pass will be compatible with Sun Pass and Peach Pass in the next couple of years... Even better: The NY Thruway and the PA Turnpike are going all-electronic tolling within the next couple of years...
I'll give an update on how's everything is going with different tolling agencies and the EZ-Pass interoperability as of mid-July 2021. 1. EZ-Pass will be accepted in Minnesota starting August 2nd, and PeachPass will accept EZ-Pass sometime later this year. 2. Ohio Turnpike has plans to make the system all-electronic tolling (AET), but they are currently working on open-road tolling (ORT) on their system. They are currently working on a bill for the governor to sign to have cameras on the turnpike to take a picture of the license plate for those people who fail to pay by cash or to pick up their ticket. 3. Kansas Turnpike is converting the whole system to AET with an operating date of January 2024. 4. Oklahoma Turnpike system is phasing out the cash collection and is currently switching to AET within the next 4-5 years, AND they have plans to add EZ-Pass to the system sometime in 2023ish. 5. More bridge and tunnel authorities are switching to AET later this year like Rhode Island's Pell-Newport Bridge.
E-Z pass worked all the way from Maine to Florida on a recent trip. I got a bill for using a Sun Pass equipped road on a side trip while I was there. I think it's funny that their solution for standardization was to come up with another new transponder tag they'll try to get everyone to accept instead of adopting the most popular of the existing standards.
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia heres my opinion a majority of highways and potential freeways should have tolls that pay for that road and the infrastructure business could own the it but they would have to be inspected and have to follow some laws. The money that would go to highways would go to expanding and funding public and semi public transportation.
Go through New England and you'll see that sometimes it's worth the tolls. Trust me. You lose time and money in gas trying to avoid them sometimes. Part of the reason I don't live up north anymore. Down south is great
I think the trickiness with the sticker transponder is if you want to transfer your transponder between vehicles. With the hard case, you just move it, but you can't so easily do that with a sticker. But at the very least, if FastTrak lets you get multiple stickers w/o (excessive) extra cost, then it's almost as good.
Yeah I was glad when most of the toll roads I use finally went to toll-by-plate because of the stickers. Florida by and large got rid of the suction cup toll pucks a couple of years ago, and for a long time you could only buy the sticker ones.
The toll by plate from EZ pass in PA is a pain. My wife received a bill from them with a Late fee of $10.00 after receiving the bill. I gladly paid the bill even though she has EZ pass and thought maybe their system wasn't functioning right that day. Next month goes by received another bill in the mail with a LATE FEE of $10. They tacked on a late fee before receiving the bill. We called EZ pass and they waved the late fee and replaced my wife's EZ pass because it was from 2010. They sent her a new EZ pass and everything is ok. Apparently those EZ passes in our cars are supposed to last so long. I think the wave of the future is all toll booth gantries. Unfortunately its going to take away toll booth operator jobs.
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in Michigan
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan
@@MichiganUSASingaporeSEAsia yeah but then Conservatives would have to admit they were wrong about something. So I don’t see that happening any time soon.
Yeah, that sticker isn't going to work for me. I sometimes tow my trailer. The trailer has its own transponder (comes up as a three-axle vehicle so the proper toll gets paid) but it doesn't have any windows. Instead, the transponder in the tow vehicle gets swapped out with the one for the trailer. With a sticker, you can't swap it out. You'll always have the transponder in the vehicle and have to use the "special" lane to pay the correct toll for the extra axle(s) of the trailer. That's going to cause huge lines and backlogs during boating season and RV season. They need to come up with a less permanent way of doing this for people who tow.
so, can't speak for all states, but did some googling about mine and our system is "smart" enough to actually count the axles and charge the proper toll with only the vehicle transponder
I have an EZ-Pass from Pennsylvania so I can go to Chicago, Boston, or even over the Peace Bridge into Canada (well, not right now) without using cash. It would be nice to be able to have one compatible system, although I'll probably never drive to Orange County again. Often, I fly and rent a car so the renter is generally stuck with however the rental car company chooses to rip you off for nearby toll roads.
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while individual states have raised gasoline/diesel taxes - the federal government excises haven't changed since 1993. that .18/gal is now worth just under .10, and cars get almost 2x better gas mileage so buy less gas to go the same distances...
It was a bit painful to hear Samuel Johnson describe at 4:55 the RFID tags. They do not use the glass windshield as an antenna, and in fact, do not contain computer power anywhere close to a 386. In fact, the old plastic-box active tags were more sophisticated than the sticker windshield tags. The big technological innovation is in tag READERS (the part mounted on the gantry) which are able to interrogate a passive RFID tag from a distance. All of the power in the passive tag to communicate comes from the interrogator signal. Yes - the new passive tags are better than older passive tags, but they certainly aren't full computers.
@@electron7659 Best be careful about that. Churches are tax exempt as a part of separation between church and state, and because they're deemed in the public interest. Yes most really do provide welfare. Tax them and they'd be allowed to directly intervene in politics like any individual would.
I'm from Ohio and the toll booths I see in-state are on the on-ramp and off-ramp as opposed to on the highway itself, and I thought it was odd that most other places do it on the highway. You're going slower on the ramp anyways and you only ever go through 2 booths, one to get on (which if you don't have a pass just involves getting a ticket), and one to get off where you put in your ticket (if you don't have an EZ-Pass) and pay based on the distance traveled, the prices for distances are listed on the ticket. Edit: but also literally the best thing would just be to straight up get rid of toll roads
Think of the western and eastern borders going to the Indiana Toll Road or the Penna. Turnpike. Also, the toll portion of I-376 in Pennsylvania has tolls every so many miles rather than only on the ramps. I have no idea why they built it that way.
I agree, Ohio did it right. You neglect to mention that if you didn't present a ticket upon exiting, they charge you as if you got on at the end point for your direction. Strangely, the Florida turnpike did both. Part was booth's every so many miles, while in the wilderness (Lake Okeechobee area) they kept track of distances, probably to reduce travel time. Oh, and in Ohio I thought they kept track of travel time, and would issue penalties for speeding. (I haven't been on the Ohio Turnpike in ten years or so.)
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in Michigan
I think Pennsylvania Turnpike is the same way if I remember correctly. However, at the PA/OH border, there are toll booths on the actual highway. One is to pay as you're leaving the state (before crossing the state line) and the other after crossing the state line to get the ticket with the toll schedule for that state. I last drove by there in 2014 so not sure if that's still the same.
That's correct. Once the Pike was paid off using the toll booths, the booths were supposed to come down. But I guess the greedy state of Massachusetts decided the toll booth was a great way to generate revenue indefinitely. I avoid the Pike as much as possible. I don't have an EZPass and I don't want one.
Over there on the east coast are all the freeways out there tolls? I live here in Los Angeles, but our fast track program throughout Southern California is just something people take to avoid the traffic on the freeways. You can get wherever your going in the same amount of time as fast track people if there were no traffic on the other side of the freeway. So I’m just wondering if everyone who drives out there on their freeways have to pay tolls?. Not to just avoid traffic?
I remember the argument for toll roads in Houston, as soon as the road was paid off then the tolls would stop... Decades later the roads WERE paid off but the tolls remain. The moral of the story is government LIES. Also, just like radar works by timing the signal, computerized toll booths will be able to calculate your speed from toll spot to spot.... So how long until they start ticketing "speeders" who got to the next booth too soon?
some states would have to change laws because to combat cities using redlight cameras as revenue farms(usually with dangerously short yellows) they banned automated traffic law enforcement.
The comment that a toll tag is as advanced as a 386 computer is illogical, crazy, stupid, and not correct. All a toll tag is is a RFID chip. It has no logic in it. The toll tag is similar to a UPC bar code.
How? It doesn’t have the range to be picked by anything other than toll booths. Besides you probably have a phone with GPS, your location can be found much more reliably with that
@@zach4604 Look carefully as you travel around, you will see mysterious readers in non toll places... They aren't collecting a toll, they are collecting data.
@@kmg501 Like... What? Your license plate? The thing they can collect is already in their database, And it's mostly for verification and traffic enforcement purposes. But the only more thing they can collect more out of you is where you're traveling to and from. They're not gonna be reading your RFID or credit card data with those equipment you mentioned. It just plainly not possible with current technology.
@@Mar1s3z Govt should not be tracking the movements of citizens, RF based devices make this much easier, less expensive and reliable than optical devices. Why people keep making excuses for a surveillance state is mind boggling. Do you think you will be okeydoke when they attempt to push digital currency on us after they have pushed all these other devices? After all it is just _"one more tiny little thing in all of the other things."_
Toll booths are going away because technology has made it possible to get rid of toll booth employees and put more money in the toll road owners pockets.
I mean sure it’s a human job being lost but who wants to stand in a tiny box for 8 hours collecting change from people. It’s a waste of everyone’s time.
job losses in industries are inevitable; and this one can save quite a bit of lives. and those pockets are state infrastructure pockets, states with tolls typically have better roads
PS virtually everything that guy in the suit said about transponders was wrong. Glass does not amplify anything, and no, that sticker does not have more power than a 386.
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in Michigan usa
I remember paying the toll in person when my family drove on the 73 in Orange county back then in the late 2000s early 2010s. But once the Electronic toll collection came by we were taken aback at first but then got used to it. And its honestly so much better and easy to use as someone who doesnt have the sticker, hardcase, etc. as it just picks up on our plate as we pass through.
@@palco22 Yes that is true………. but it took a cop on the ground it stop you and issue a ticket. Now the sticker on the window will allow the aircraft to read your car and issue a ticket without stopping the car.
Unfortunately those of us who rent cars are still up a creek. Without a way to pay the toll, we have to pay a $25 "admin fee" to the rental car company to pay a $1 toll on our behalf.
IK with the transponders in my state, it's usually simple enough to just "add vehicle" where you just add the plate and model, done online in a couple minutes, but I'm sure other states make it a proper nightmare.
The real problem is that, at least in California, they gave you no help at all figuring out the change in use. The toll booth is empty, a sign says "don't stop", which formerly would get you an expensive ticket. Nowhere does it tell you that you will be billed by your license plate. Further, when you get the bill, it says ""voilation". A small peice of paper falls out that says "this is not a violation but a bill". Add that to the fact tolls have quadrupled in the past 10 years, and no wonder people are angry.
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in Michigan
Pay by plate is awful. In NY you get a two week window to pay any tolls, else they add a $100 per toll fine to your bill, and you have to go plead before a judge to ask for leniency. That is the sole reason why I got an EZ Pass. I missed the first bill by accident, and the second one was a bit of a shock. There was a guy around that time as well that made it into the news for accruing a $20,000 bill due to an outdated mailing address. Don't recall how it was resolved. At least in Massachusetts the fine for missing a toll bill is a couple dollars extra, not $100 per toll.
@@sitdowndogbreath Does the City of San Francisco own the bridge? I think not. That's not to say that California isn't all kinds of fucked up, but ask who owns it first. A lot of major bridges and tunnels are privately or publicly-privately owned.
@@sitdowndogbreath Or that a four-lane freeway in the middle of nowhere Oklahoma is much cheaper to maintain than a ~90-year-old 6-lane wide suspension bridge in an earthquake prone area.
It's probably to reduce traffic, that's one of the reasons they put a toll on roads is to encourage people to use another route if the existing one is too crowded. It would look bad for tourists to sit in traffic the entire time they're on the city's most iconic landmark.
@@B3Band unless you pay it late. In NYC, if you don't pay it on time you get a $100 fine per toll. Can't pay it? That's tough, they'll tow your car and hold it until you pay it, plus towing fees etc.
@@B3Band Maybe where you come from. Did you see the toll cost to drive on the Golden Gate Bridge? $7.75 for less than a mile. Around the LA area it can be more than $7 each way.
@@zeroeffortmemes I thought he was on 241, actually. I drive that once or twice per week, and always pay by plate, as he says. I don't put extra stuff on my car.
Same here in Florida, technically we have ez pass, but if you just run it the only charge you what you owe, there's no penalty. So alot of it just run it
I've never taken a toll road, I'm a firm believer that it's incredibly stupid to pay for a road when all the other roads are free. Toll roads are for people who don't care about money.
It was my understanding that this toll by transponder situation nationwide was to have been unified by Oct, 2016. Of course, that date has come and gone. Glad to see the person you spoke with in California is anticipating unification sometime in 2020 (maybe?), Also, the number of collisions by vehicles with toll plazas is extremely small. Having lived in NJ during the 60's and 70's and using both the NJ Turnpike and Garden State Parkway almost everyday, I can only recall a couple of vehicle/toll booth collisions in all those years. For me, it is much simpler to have both manned toll booths and transponder toll gantries. It seems an extreme waste of time and money to bill motorists for tolls when they could have just been paid at the toll plaza. And are there new laws on the books so that when one receives a bill in the mail, you will be fined if you don't pay. Right now I think one can just toss a toll bill collection notice with no legal ramifications.
Ya youll get fined $250? I think if u dont pay the bill before the due date. And at certain toll booths like the ones into nyc youll get your registration revoked for a year i believe.
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in Michigan usa
Thank goodness 4 years toll unification is actually here now. I have the Uni transponder from E-Pass (Central Florida Expressway Authority) and it works with E-Pass & SunPass in Florida and toll systems in 18 other states.
Still not here. Coupla problems: 1: For NY Thruway (EZPass), different vehicle classes need different transponders. Meanwhile, 2. Fastrak in L.A. area needs “Flex” transponder to make use of HOV discount (usually no toll). Sticker transponder addresses neither of these.
We have one. The Ohio Turnpike runs across the northern part of the state. Its a bit different than the toll roads shown here though. It's limited access, so you get a ticket when you get on, you pay when you get off. You don't have to stop and pay every few miles.
When we had tolls in Vancouver Canada they incentivized people to have the sticker by giving them a lower price when crossing the toll as opposed to the license plate readers. The socialist government got rid of the tolls a few years ago however I don’t know where the money is coming from to pay for the billions of dollars owing on the two new bridges they built🤔
Stephen Mason It’s coming from the taxpayers as always. Tolls are just an added tax that impacts wealthy citizens relatively less, thus the reason why these kind of taxes are so popular by the ruling class.
Yeah, tolls roads are just privatization of a public resource and sooo many bad things happen when you do that kinda thing. It's good that they got rid of those tolls, I wish they'd do that where I live.
The money for roads Bridges and Highway construction comes from gas tax go to any Shell gas station and it's very transparent it's posted we pay $0.50 to the state $0.18 to the FED plus a sales tax on top of the tax plus we pay DMV fees that are paid for a road Bridges and highways the problem is that these funds go to construct FasTrak and toll roads using our money for the state to make even more money the state of California claims that 65% of the people of California approve call Rose and I think that's a lie.
Here is a smart concept. Don't charge any toll...Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their Michigan is smart. They never had any toll booths on any of their highways. Never. That's right no charges to travel in michigan. Never. That's right no charges to travel in Michigan USA, a former Canada country
Oh yea? Governor Ned Lamont is thinking of putting tolls on the Merritt Parkway and on the local roads too. Welcome to the democratic ecstasy. Edited to say, this is Connecticut.
@@stevesemar7106 to go from new jersey into NYC the Port Authority those neforius sob's charge tractor trailers 91 Dollars. Thats the holland and Lincoln tunnels and the George Washington Bridge. Wanna complain? Congress appointed them . Last year they raised their tolls three times. They can, and they will
@@styldsteel1 Out in Texas literally every new highway is toll. Here in Virginia most roads aren't toll outside of certain times of the day in the capital beltway we are a Democratic state too.
I don’t want to be here!🤣🤣🤣🤣. What about rentals or moving your transponder to another vehicle you’re using? What about windshield replacements, can it be moved or do you have to get another one? Will you have to create an account in multiple states to log in if you use pay by plate? So many unanswered questions that were never addressed. It’s 2024 and this still hasn’t happened and probably will never happen.
On a trip a couple of years ago leaving from Austin, TX to Effingham, IL, I found that my TXtag worked in both Oklahoma and Kansas. I don't remember finding a toll road in Missouri. I went straight up I-35 and discovered that once I hit Kansas, all freeways were toll roads. (This started as a trip to see the band Kansas in Kansas, but due to a little white lie from Google Maps, I got to the casino north of Topeka in time to see the crew unloading the stage from the building back into the truck. It turned out, the show the next night was in Effingham,, Illinois so I got a room and left in the morning on the trip to Effingham...and that is where the wrinkle hit. I-70 east goes through St. Louis, notorious for it's sucky traffic. To take the "bypass" around St. Louis, it added 2 hours to the trip. I arrived in Effingham and got a room, a quick burger and just made it to the venue for the show with about 10 minutes to spare before the show started. The next morning, after a couple hours of sight seeing given I had never been to that part of Illinois, I headed to the next stop,back across St. Louis to Warrenton, Missouri where the city was having their fall festival, including a free show with 3 bands( supposed to be Atlanta Rhythm Section, Pure Prairie League, and ToTo - only they had to pull out at the last minute due to a death in the band, replaced by Orleans as the headliner). All shows were excellent. Again, having not been to Northwest Missouri, after a night in the roach motel (actually not that bad - just older than I was, early 1950's vintage - only place in town with rooms left), I stuck out on a local road heading more or less southwest toward Joplin, which had been wiped out by a tornado a couple years before. It had been mostly rebuilt, so back to the road, this time on I-44 I think it was heading towards Tulsa, Oklahoma. I managed to get near there and found an Indian owned toll road to McAlester, where I grabbed a room for the night. I was hoping to make it to Paris, Texas, but my go, got up and left. I actually ended up in a Hampton Inn a few miles south. It turns out, there were major rail lines in the area and these three hotels in the middle of BFE were where the trainmen stayed. I figured if it was good enough for the trainmen, it was good enough for me. Finally on the last day, on down to Paris, Texas and got some pictures of the Eiffel Tower replica there, then on down to I-30 into Dallas/Mesquite where there was a several hour delay due to construction. I finally got back to Austin about 11:30 PM. Having not had a vacation in several years, I enjoyed the heck out of this trip.
My OTR truck had two toll tags from 2016 to 2019: a NY Thruway EZPass and a BestPass "Horizon Pass." The EZPass covers almost the entire east coast and Midwest, while the Horizon Pass covered Florida, Tornado Alley, and the toll bridges in the Bay Area in NorCal (except the Golden Gate, but my rig was over 65 feet total when pulling a standard 53 foot trailer so I wasn't allowed on that bridge anyway). The only road I used regularly that wasn't compatible was the E-470 loop around Denver, but that had plate tolls. The toll roads in SoCal were also not covered, but I never had any reason to use those during my OTR career. (I think the company specifically used NY Thruway EZPasses due to significantly discounted tolls on I-90.)
@@Nicholas-f5 Incorrect. NYC has specific routes for 53' trailers, 48' trailers are allowed 1 mile from the National Network, and the rest of the city has a 55' combined tractor trailer length limit. And permits can be easily obtained to take 53 footers to most parts of the city.
They don’t. If you use the sticker you will get charged even when you are a carpool and should be exempt. It’s the reason I got the small toll box versions with the switch for my cars instead.
In utah, we have an express pass lane (everyone around here calls it the carpool lane though... since most don't bother to use it unless they carpool.... and if you carpool it is free.) every stretch of the road tells you the toll and when you pass it (usually $0.25) takes a photo to see if you have a pass or if you are indeed carpooling. if carpooling it is free; if not it charges you and will send you the bill somehow, not sure how since I only carpool in that lane. If you repeat offend and don't have an express pass and are by yourself you will get a nasty fine wich they warn you of. I forgot we even have a toll way since its just a freeway/highway around these parts and its not for the whole stinking road thank heavens.
Actually, a lost of those east-coast passes are EZ-PASS compliant, except I think the sun pass. I just buy a Virginia EZ-PASS and use it all up and down the northeast. I go from TN to DC, NY, or NJ at least once a year and have only ever needed the one.
