Why Are You Like This?! | 4-Sided Dive | Episode 8: Discussing Up To C3E38 

I feel like Ashton's "everything hurts, all the time" is very unsung (and appreciated) invisible illness representation. I'm a chronic pain sufferer, one leg and my lower back, they haven't not hurt to some degree for 15 years, and the pain for sure doesn't just stay in those two places, it spreads and it takes a toll. I think I can tell Tallesin knows someone like me irl too, someone who's in constant pain. But that it's not done for A Bit, or just "flavour", that it's a literal statement, just, a fact; "everything hurts, all the time", I actually genuinely appreciate that kinda rep honestly. The likelihood of Tallesin Jaffe reading this is just next to zero, but I hope some day I can thank him for it

"I have three characters who just don't age." - Marisha "That seems like a cry for help." - Sam SAM YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO DO MARISHA LIKE THAT 🤣

I adore the fact that back in Talks Machina the Henry cam was mostly him being a sleepy boy, and then now Omar cam is just *constant zoomies*

Marisha: "Are you cursed?" Taliesin: "No more than anyone else." Perfect.

"Percy, darling, it's been so long since Vax died, and Keyleth is still so lonely." Chetney inhabiting Sam

I can't wait for in 4 campaigns where everyone plays a Marisha character

Marisha: "Vex would totally be in on it, let's be real." Critter fan fic writers: Finally. Just gonna dust this off...and...publish.

“Percy’s cane: what the fuck is up with that?!” It’s Percy. Do you think it’s NOT also a gun? 😂

I don’t know if this was ever brought up but I just had a thought given how paranoid and “Batman from Batman Beyond” Percy is becoming. If Percy’s life with Vox Machina went differently, he could have ended up just like Eshteross; alone, paranoid and surrounded by boobytraps.

Oh my god Matt just standing there awkwardly waiting for everyone to stop talking so he can say which number he pulled hahaha so relatable

The Mercers (Omar included) have a special relationship with fireplaces.

In regards to Gwendolyn - Because it is Percy and Vex'ahlia (Espeically because it's Vex'ahlia) - with her being a Tiefling, there is no doubt in my mind that they would have gone to EVERY LENGTH to ensure she knew she was still loved and that her being different was not a sin or anything for her to be ashamed of.

Mercer's autobiography will be called "How Did I Want To Do That".

Matt oscillating between German Expressionist and French Elitist is kinda giving me life :'^)

Did anyone else find the casual Matt/Marisha hand holding so wholesome and adorable? Love these guys. 🥰

as someone with chronic pain I got really excited when Tal revealed that Ashton was in constant pain. the whole "there is strength, but there is pain/there is pain, but there is strength" was such a fun moment

I feel like Omar is just a fun easter egg to look out for the way he explores the set throughout the episode

I love that Matt remembers it as the “fix him” moment

I just realized that Matilda is Laudna’s literal and metaphorical deadname

About Keyleth having to leave again quickly after having brought them to Whitestone: Having teleportation magic must be like having a van. If you own a van, all of a sudden every distant friend, family member and their dog knows to call on you if they need to move a couch.

God, that tower....that thing is definitely coming down with the next pull, and I have no idea how the hell Sam was so reckless and lucky with it every time.

It's not paranoia if they really are out to get you, then it's sensible precautions.

This is the content I adore. Creepy stories of Arsenic silk flowers, while Omar the God of Chaos climbs into the fake fire covered in soot

Sam: What if you were a clown? Matt: (no hesitation) Still Form of Dread.

I totally got Percy's reaction. This creepy undead looking corpse is a vessel for the necromancer that murdered his childhood family. And now someone wants to do a resurrection ritual on it. In the middle of that same home, where his wife and kids now live. Of course he is going to be like fuck no.

Turns out, Shithead was Professor Thaddeus all along.

The paint was called "Scheele's Green", not only was it in paint and dyes, it was used in sweets (candies) and in candles, you can imagine the problems this coursed.

I like that there’s a character with chronic pain in the story. I’ve always wanted to see that explored but I never have that in my characters because usually I try to escape from my own chronic pain with fibromyalgia when I’m making up characters to play

Marisha's victory lap at the end was full of "6 year old at a sleepover" energy and it was adorable

Something about Sam softly caressing everyone’s hands was hilarious to me.

I never realised how much I missed Nott the Brave until Sam talked in her voice again. I'm so happy we got the Mighty Nein 2 parter coming up!

I’m just gonna say it, Matt’s face of pure joy while petting Omar is awesome.

I’m here for Matt gaslighting Travis about behind the screen intel 😂😂😂

Sam embodied every burnt-out social worker with FCG finding out that they have a soul, and being troubled by it.

"it's easier to take care of others and not take care of yourself" Sam coming for my throat

Marisha: Great character study on how people give advice to... uhm... fix when your friend is mad at you over a broken rock. Taliesin: She had us in the first half, not gonna lie.

Timestamps will be posted soon. Ep 8 Timestamps 0:34 - Rolling 1:00 - Matt is Tavern Keep 3:16 - Open Discussion: WTFIUWT 3:20 - VM! Percy Details 8:33 - Percy & Kiki fighting? 9:43 - Were they having an affair? 11:01 - GoPro down 13:42 - Coaster 14:23 - Whitestone 15:45 - Gwendolyn 17:05 - Darkstone 17:40 - Matilda Bradbury 19:10 - Laudna living forever? 19:58 - MARISHA’S characters never age 22:23 - Creepy Whitestone 23:10 - Leaving the table 23:20 - Weird coincidence with C2 25:00 - How to revive FCG 25:34 - Fighting Delilah 26:45 - Delilah may still be alive, only Matt knows 28:44 - Pate 30:34 - One man Show 33:58 - Tower of Inquiry 35:18 - How did you come up with your character’s name? 36:00 - Matilda 38:06 - Fire 38:51 - Fresh Cut Grass 39:26 - Ashton 40:20 - Ash on Omar 40:54 - Did you all have 1:1s/2:1s with Matt before the game started like you did with Campaign 2? If so how did they go? 42:52 - Sam pulls a block 43:33 - What’s your favorite one on one roleplay moment with your character so far this campaign? 48:43 - The Deep Dive 49:11 - Matt, how did the skill check system work for Laudna’s mind? We’re the successes/failures weighed differently depending on the moment? 51:20 - Whitestone Andy 52:12 - Tal, What was it like to argue with Percy as Ashton? Is there anything else you wish you could have said to him or that you expected Percy to say to Ashton? 53:43 - Sam, Scanlan didn’t show up in Whitestone. What do you imagine his reaction to Laudna would have been and where do you think he is right now? 56:14 - Marisha, did you give Matt any stipulations for Laudna’s resurrection ritual? Was there anything that the players could have done that resulted in a more or less favorable outcome for Laudna’s soul? 57:20 - Matt, what inspired Lord Eshteross to bequeath the Skyship to Bells Hells? Did he believe they would have more use for it than the textile company? 58:50 - Tal, how does Ashton feel about the Hishari popping back up? Is this a curiosity that has long been undated or has he pushed away this vague memory of their parents? 59:05 - Aasimar Ashton? 1:00:55 - Avoiding touch 1:02:06 - Sam, FCG has a soul! How does this make them feel especially in regards to their perspective about life? 1:03:54 - Marisha, how does Laudna feel about her friends having fought Delilah for her? Does Laudna believe Delilah is gone for good and if so how does she feel about that? 1:06:17 - Taliesin pulls a block 1:07:55 - What moment from the campaign has had the greatest impact on your character so far? 1:10:15 - Matt pulls 1:11:00 - Choose any two characters you’ve played and imagine they’re stuck in an elevator together. How would that interaction play out? 1:14:35 - Essek & Gilmore 1:14:51 - Sam pulls from the Tower 1:15:21 - What is one of the most memorable Nat 20’s you’ve rolled this campaign and do you “have a picture of that sh**” 1:16:58 - Special Nat 20 feature for FCG 1:17:46 - Break Time 1:24:30 - Break Ends 1:26:20 - Game 1 Round 1 1:29:05 - Questions all at once 1:30:16 - Round 2 1:32:30 - Tal was the Wicked Wombat 1:33:00 - Sam, what has it been like for FCG to experience someone else’s trauma via Ashton and Laudna? 1:34:04 - Game 2 Round 1 1:36:49 - Matt gets voted out 1:37:13 - Game 2 Round 2/ Matt answers about Shadow entities 1:38:54 - Matt was the wombat 1:39:46 - Sam, what was it like for FCG to gain the attention of the Changebringer? 1:42:13 - Game 3 Round 1 1:44:06 - Tal gets voted out 1:45:04 - Marisha, how does Pact of the Chain impact Laudna and what is it like for her to see her oldest friend come to life? 1:45:27 - Game 3 Round 2 1:45:30 - Tal, what was it like to have Imogen and FCG in Ashton’s head? Did you know that their mind could trap the two within? How much was Ashton aware of the literal infinity in their mind? 1:47:50 - No one gets voted out 1:48:08 - Sam, what was the thought process behind FCG using Compulsion in Laudna’s resurrection ritual? 1:49:46 - Game 3 Round 3/ Tal, What was it like to see Whitestone and how it’s grown? 1:51:19 - Marisha wins! 1:52:33 - Matt cleans up 1:53:05 - Oh Sam 1:53:28 - Sam & Marisha 1:53:43 - Always Watching

So... How long do you guys think Liam will be able to escape the fate of being Tavern Keeper? Place your bets.

I think FCG’s southern accent and Imogen’s southern accent are VERY different. Imogen sounds something closer to Texas, while FCG sounds like he’s from Kentucky, or somewhere close. Edit: I was unclear about where I thought FCG was from. That caused some confusion.

Bless these nerds for encouraging sultry fanfic, truly using their power for such evil and such good 😂

In all those talks and 4-sided dive episodes, I never realized until how much I need that dark humor combo Sam and Tal bring on to the table!

1:01:03 is the moment Ashton became my favorite character. I thank you, Taliesin Jaffe for bringing them to life.

I can't believe they got Werner Herzog to do the opening

I think the idea of resurrecting FCG by "popping the clutch" is perfect.

Sam doing Nott's voice again made me so happy

"Everything hurts. Beating the living hell out of Everything makes it better." Ashton is a warhammer 40k world eater confirmed.

Marisha finds a way to create near immortal characters. Keylith ages very slowly, Beau doesn't need food or water to live and Laudna will probably never age

I'm not certain which corner of his mind Matt pulled that Franco-German neo-expressionism exestial noir bit at the beginning, but it totally caught me by surprise and made me laugh more than I thought I would going into the first minute of a Four Sided Dive video

I think we all know one thing that Beau is eating even though she doesn't need it to survive 👀

I am spending this episode watching Omar and the fire place... "OOOO - flashy sticks!"

I appreciate the answer to the cast not playing their characters from Campaign One. I admit I was one of those people that wondered why the cast couldn't play their original characters. I still think it would have been cool and would have brought a lot of fun nostalgia, especially for everyone who started following critical role with campaign one. At the same time, I respect Matt playing the campaign one characters as a way of not bringing confusion to the viewers, especially at the chance that a lot of people started with campaign 2. In the end, you gotta do what's best for your table and based on the response from Matt and the cast, that's what they did.

omg the wombat game is absolute chaos. and so is the multiple answering questions. i am HERE for it

Anyone notice a trend with Sam’s characters is that they all collectively seem to have this pathological need to help people or at the very least put others problems before addressing their own? With Scanlan it was with Vox Machina until he had his breakdown and did some soul searching. Taryon wanted to prove to his father how capable he was, before realizing that perhaps that’s not something he needs to prove to his father but rather himself through VM. Nott/Veth was always bringing up support for whatever Caleb/Bren needed. Then there’s FCG whose whole purpose in life was to help others not worrying about himself because he felt everyone else seemed to have that spark of life, he thought he lacked but now knows he shares with his friends.

Ooooh, theory: it’s a Crazy Jane (from Doom Patrol if you don’t know) situation where Laudna is an alternate personality that manifested to protect the original personality of Matilda in her time of isolation.

I love the Nott and Taryon match up role play scene - literally THE BEST !!

I always associated the name Laudna with laudanum: which is a old-timey calming and analgetic drug containg about 10% of opium dissolved in alcohol (which means it's obviously reeally destructive if used often) Also it has many varying uses in fiction, but most memorable for me is how laudanum represented in the game "Amnesia: The Dark Descent" -- in gameplay it's a healing potions, but it probably did some brain damage to main character on the path to titular affliction of the amnesia

So nobody is gonna mention Matt's perfect Werner Herzog impression, really?

The "your authority or assurance" thing was so 100% perfect Percy.

Intro: When Matt took off the glasses: young Kevin Sorbo. See it, never unsee it!

ngl, "How do you want to live this?" is a fantastic title for an autobiography.

Omar didn't want the snuggles, he was after the cookie!

I'm living for Matt's "Slightly sassy, slightly nihilistic german" character.

I didn't realize how much I missed Notts gargle of a voice until Sam did the Nott/Taryon elevator rp

the fact that we got a PolyMachina conversation about a Vex-Percy-Keyleth throuple 10 minutes into the episode brings me great joy 9:39 is where the convo starts

Matt Mercer is wearing a Heilung tee-shirt and I am so happy! 🖤

The production of this show makes me die with happiness. I love you all so much.

Sam hears _"not a good boy"_ & immediately wonders if Percy became a _'Wife Guy.'_

Marisha and Matt just casually holding hands is so cute. It's just so wholesome. The whole group is so wholesome.

Taliesin’s celebration “Haha it was a candy wrapper” is so relatable for having pets 😂

Sam: “Now, my character, when we someone else gets a natural 20, I get a little bonus” I confess, that’s not what I thought the last syllable was gonna be. Dirty brain.

I was blown away by that 4-man theatrical production of “Popeye” the gang did during Hand-to-Hand Wombat!

I loved Marisha’s run after she won the game. Just exuding Laudna.

Dani: Taliesin no Me (and probably Sam): Taliesin YES

I would definitely read the autobiography "How I Do This" by Matthew Mercer

Taliesin's quick wit always has me smiling

Sam does one-man-shows it seems when he does the sponsor ads at the beginning of episodes. They are often wonderful.

always taliesen and marisha teaming up for chaos team up lol too conquer matts board game skills lol and sam is just their 😂

what I think the captions were supposed to say at 48:30 : "... ruined by Sam and" what the captions actually said: "... ruined by salmon"

I love how both of the two most recent 4-Sided Dives have ended with something Mercer-based. Last month's, he destroyed L.A. as the trash robot, and now the "Mercer is always watching". XD

The fact that Taliesin knows about Spaced gives me so much joy 37:44 I've been told that when my great, great aunt was a young she worked at an Arsenic Calciner; they would heat Tin ore to drive off the Arsenic and Sulphur. The smoke would leave deposits along horizontal chimneys and her job was to crawl inside after they'd cooled to scrape off the refined Arsenic and Sulphur. Their personal protection consisted of cotton wool nose plugs, soaked handkerchiefs and clay smeared on any exposed skin! There are still spoil heaps and old mine workings nearby that are so contaminated that almost nothing grows on them.

"Why Are You Like This"? The hit game competing against 'What The Fuck is Up with That"?!

i think Taliesin could make a whole series on like Percy post VM campaign

i'm very proud of myself because for the first time there are no unwatched videos on the channel because i'm all caught up on campaign 3

Keyleth, Arch-Druid, Voice Of The Tempest, Best Crunk Dealer This Side Of Wildemount

The cut here at 1:26… I’ve watched it like 10 times now and I keep bursting out laughing every time. Edit: Marisha talking about the flower shops reminds me of the same thing happening with young girls who would paint this glow in the dark pain on watches (it glowed because it contained radium). So to get the fine detail these girls would put the brush in their mouth to give it a fine point (since radium shared properties with calcium it would get inside of bones) and this lead to several people actually losing their jaws completely. Which of course the companies were able to just completely erase long enough to not be charged for it.

My favourite spelling mistake in the subtitles was "ruined by salmon"

I love that the more competitive and self-rightous Matt gets the louder and more Floridian he becomes

Omar looks so offended when Tal takes away the wrapper 😂😂😂

Watching sam hump things to his own song at the end was surreal

I don’t know about pics of Nat 20s, but I do wish Taliesin had a pic of the 0 with advantage he rolled during the Jrusar Party. 😂

Sam's Travis impression : chef's kiss.

For those who may have missed it: Matt recently did a great 1-hour interview on the channel "Alanah Pearce" titled "va101: Critical Role, Overwatch, Cyberpunk & Attack on Titan's MATTHEW MERCER! | Voice Acting 101". (not linking in case that runs afoul of automatic comment moderation)

Matt wearing a Heilung shirt warms my heart beyond measure.

So Keyleth supplies Percy? D'you think they have a set of matching bonsais for that? After all, you only need a big tree if you're going to send *people* through it... ;)

I love that Matt is wearing a Heilung shirt - their music is awesome and unusual, and I've definitely used it while DMing my own games. It made a perfect backing track for Yester Hill in Curse of Strahd.

Love that Matt is wearing a Heilung Shirt

Why am I not surprised in the slightest that Taliesin is familiar with Jan Švankmajer's Alice?

Yesssssssss we have been waiting :0 we love y’all so much. Thanks for your time!

After 2 minutes of watching this I realized I caught up on 30 odd episodes in a week and I’ve come back to watch the 4-sided dives

The question asking and answering at the same time is my FAVOURITE part of this episode omg