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Why Are You So Angry? Part 1: A Short History of Anita Sarkeesian 

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Bibliography:
Feminist Frequency post collecting RU-vid harassment: feministfrequen...
...collecting image-based harassment: feministfrequen...
...collecting Twitter harassment: feministfrequen...
Beat Up Anita Sarkeesian game: www.destructoid...
Bomb threat at GDC: kotaku.com/bomb...
Threat of school shooting at Utah State: www.forbes.com/...
FBI investigation into death threats: www.polygon.com...
Doxxing attempt: storify.com/Da...
Harassment probably beginning on 4chan: www.newstatesma...
Jay Allen on chan culture: storify.com/a_...
Lana Polanksy on chan culture: storify.com/Fi...
Katherine Cross on "taking the games away": www.polygon.com...
Kunyosying and Soles - Postmodern Geekdom as Simulated Ethnicity: www.ejumpcut.or...
Anita Sarkeesian - What I Couldn't Say: • Anita Sarkeesian: What...
Anita Sarkeesian - Online Harassment and How it Lowers Vision: • Anita Sarkeesian - Onl...

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@FTZPLTC
@FTZPLTC 5 лет назад
Short version: even if someone *is* Wrong On The Internet, that's *not* the reason you're sending them a death threat.
@Miranox2
@Miranox2 4 года назад
She made a ton of money from those threats. Ironically, her victim fame was all she had. As soon as that faded, her company went bankrupt due to lack of donations. If you donated to her, you got scammed.
@dophinprincess
@dophinprincess 4 года назад
This is a perfect summary
@MikhaNoodle
@MikhaNoodle 4 года назад
@@Miranox2 that's not what a scam is
@Miranox2
@Miranox2 4 года назад
@@MikhaNoodle Call it a grift then. The difference is merely circumstantial.
@Tinil0
@Tinil0 4 года назад
@@Miranox2 You...literally didn't even watch the video. You are repeating talking points that are not only wrong, but are so obviously, overwhelmingly wrong that it's an advertisement of your ignorance.
@pikgears
@pikgears 5 лет назад
"Angry Jack" honestly sounds like a brand of spicy cheese, not gonna lie
@faceyfacefaceface
@faceyfacefaceface 4 года назад
@Diego Brando 「ТӤЄ шӨЯLD」 How did he misrepresent people? I'm pretty sure she did get doxxed and verbally abused profusely. Just because not everyone who disagrees with her does this, doesn't make it a misrepresentation.
@themilkspots2652
@themilkspots2652 4 года назад
A spinoff of Hungry Jack?
@RealNormHall
@RealNormHall 4 года назад
No more like hot sauce.
@Silverwind87
@Silverwind87 4 года назад
@Stand:「Catch the Rainbow」 Master:「Blackmore」 who asked?
@JimmehRulez
@JimmehRulez 4 года назад
@Joe Average male tears means semen.
@LilaEtwas
@LilaEtwas 3 года назад
I've been revisiting a lot of the things that happened when I was a edgy, anti-feminist teenager through channels like Innuendo Studios and hbomberguy and ngl it's kinda cathartic to recognise how much I've grown as a person. Turns out, not being angry at the world 24/7 is actually quite relaxing.
@Rodiza
@Rodiza 3 года назад
yeah man, you and me both. I wish I could go back in time and punch myself
@drexcarratala5290
@drexcarratala5290 3 года назад
lots of us fell down that rabbit hole for a minute, but just as many of us climbed our way back out :)
@HorusHerotic
@HorusHerotic 3 года назад
You can be calm and polite and still think Anita robbed people and didn't provide the content she promised. Why is it all or nothing? Criticism is ok when it's given in good faith.
@LilaEtwas
@LilaEtwas 3 года назад
@@HorusHerotic Except that that's absolutely not what happened with Anita Sarkeesian. The vast majority of "criticism" she got was vile.
@HorusHerotic
@HorusHerotic 3 года назад
@@LilaEtwas that's because for every honest critic there are 10,000 lonely virgins online. But that's the game these grifters like Anita play. Ignore all valid criticism and focus on the losers in the comment section to gain sympathy. Pure emotional manipulation.
@abby8043
@abby8043 5 лет назад
I came from contrapoints to watch this video and I realized watching it halfway I had it un-liked. My political views have changed so much in 4 years and I'm a little embarrassed. I probably didn't watch the whole thing. Christ.
@shaisag1
@shaisag1 5 лет назад
💕
@marielayeet9673
@marielayeet9673 5 лет назад
Same man, I had that feminism = bad mentality some time ago too... I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who got out of it.
@Candyqueen3211
@Candyqueen3211 5 лет назад
You did well by reflecting and growing. Pay it forward, I feel like we could change shit if we do that
@APurpleFable
@APurpleFable 5 лет назад
This series of comments is making me happy. Thank you for opening up to other opinions and changing your ways. It's such a comforting thing to know that some are coming around :)
@KingBobXVI
@KingBobXVI 5 лет назад
"and I realized watching it halfway I had it un-liked. My political views have changed so much in 4 years and I'm a little embarrassed. I probably didn't watch the whole thing." Ah, so _you_ were the guy going to all of the left wing (or seemingly left wing) videos, downvoting, and leaving then :P Vox even had a couple videos I saw that were favorable to the right, and the comments were filled with people complaining that Vox was "left biased" as they were criticizing... the left. Glad you eventually snapped out of it :)
@Eddn102
@Eddn102 8 лет назад
Do not read the comments. You've got better things to do.
@Defnotkorean
@Defnotkorean 8 лет назад
thanks man
@gavinmagness9009
@gavinmagness9009 8 лет назад
I need someone like you in my life.
@NickPiers
@NickPiers 7 лет назад
This should be the top comment.
@PissedOffBeyond
@PissedOffBeyond 7 лет назад
Edin Sumar Nah I got free time it's cool.
@falloutbos34
@falloutbos34 7 лет назад
AKA: Don't read differing opinions, live in your circle jerk.
@Bluestarr
@Bluestarr 4 года назад
It is amazing, after years in reactionary circles, how much I’ve heard about Sarkeesian and yet how little I know about her. I only watched an video directly from Sarkeesian last year, despite hating her and publicly saying that I hated her and why for years. It’s crazy, I didn’t even really hate her, I didn’t know her at all. I hated the idea I thought she represented, my problems put into a person who isn’t responsible for them at all.
@Maiseymouse
@Maiseymouse 4 года назад
Same man
@ackidack
@ackidack 4 года назад
I genuinely felt so bad when I switched sides
@frausteiner8615
@frausteiner8615 4 года назад
GamerGate was a total overreaction, but let's not act like Sarkeesian isn't a total piece of shit.
@ackidack
@ackidack 4 года назад
@@frausteiner8615 sarkeesian Is fine. I haven't seen anything abt her that's bad
@frausteiner8615
@frausteiner8615 4 года назад
@@ackidack Did you see her tropes vs girls series? She made a bunch of videos where she basically lied about sexism in video games in order to get attention.
@purpleraindrip1674
@purpleraindrip1674 3 года назад
Asking "why am I so angry" kinda pulled me out of the reactionary rabbit hole. I wasn't too far down, I considered myself a centrist but still. I remember thinking "wait, why on earth do I give a shit whether or not someone shares their pronouns?" and just like that I was done with the whole thing. Two years after writing this I am transgenger so that’s pretty sick also gender isn't real you're supposed to just have fun with it and do what you like
@mysaria7641
@mysaria7641 3 года назад
same.. there just comes a point where you stop caring? Like, I dont care how that dude wears a skirt, and i really could care less about that lady not shaving. You get tired of having to police everyone who is just trying to be themselves. All the reactionaries did is open my eyes to which side actually cared about people’s freedom
@bobjameson3547
@bobjameson3547 3 года назад
@@mysaria7641 I mean pretending like it isn't happening just sounds like a major cope especially when It's increasingly becoming something you can't ignore. 5 years ago a lot of this shit was only on Tumblr and Reddit. 5 years before that it was almost non-existent in the real world. Now it's in my school and workplace. And it's not just "a dude wearing a dress." It's that dude demanding that you change the way you live and interact with people for them.
@miguelvaranda7377
@miguelvaranda7377 3 года назад
@@bobjameson3547 "change the way you live and interact with people for them." In what way specifically, is addressing someone by their pronouns too much?
@joaodelgado6696
@joaodelgado6696 3 года назад
@@miguelvaranda7377 you dont yunderstand, introducing one single pronoun into his vocabulary is something that will deeply affect his entire life and he will never be the same ever again... hoenstly, these people act like they dont leanr/use new words constantly as their. its part of language, as we gorw and identify new concepts languages adapt as well, but this guys will look at any changes as 'nHngg NeW SpeAk 19844 REEE'
@HorusHerotic
@HorusHerotic 3 года назад
@@joaodelgado6696 my pronoun is Boss and if you don't treat me as such a mob will ruin your life in any horrible way they can. Because I'm a GOOD person.
@synthstatic9889
@synthstatic9889 5 лет назад
"Some authority figure is going to take the games away." Mom?
@mariebourgot4949
@mariebourgot4949 4 года назад
^^
@VultureClone
@VultureClone 4 года назад
"Girl says mean things about video games, I guess we're justified in sending her death threats." In all seriousness, how come the sea of women haters out there don't get this amount of hate? I don't see this scale of attack on any misogynists online. What a shock that it's men getting their panties in a twist over nothing. And you're right, there's no way one woman could dismantle the gaming industry. Those idiots just wanted a reason to bitch and moan about feminism. I mean just look at the dislikes on this video....both sad and pathetic that they can't at least attempt to see it from a different perspective.
@kiriki4558
@kiriki4558 4 года назад
I think this just proves that we live in a culture that favor men over women. Because, there's no other reasonable way to explain that huges disparities of trait.
@trip9845
@trip9845 4 года назад
good straw man
@trip9845
@trip9845 4 года назад
@@kiriki4558 good joke men get it worse but no one gives a shit
@faithngiraingass3355
@faithngiraingass3355 3 года назад
@@trip9845 could yhu elaborate please?
@trip9845
@trip9845 3 года назад
@@faithngiraingass3355 the strawman or the joke comment?
@alexredfield1943
@alexredfield1943 4 года назад
Remember guys, this video is not about defending or debunking her points. The point is why make such an outrage about just letting this specific woman speak
@timpize8733
@timpize8733 4 года назад
I've heard many people trying to debate her views in the most respectful manner, but as far as I know sh's always refused.
@timpize8733
@timpize8733 4 года назад
@Omega0918 Yes, or Sargon of Akkad if I remember. She's trying to pass off everyone who criticizes her as sexist.
@shamblestheclown
@shamblestheclown 4 года назад
@@timpize8733 sargon is literally the biggest bigot on the planet
@timpize8733
@timpize8733 4 года назад
@@shamblestheclown Why is that? I don't know him that well. Anyway, I doubt it's true but if it was the point would still stand.
@shamblestheclown
@shamblestheclown 4 года назад
@Omega0918 no, it's because he supports phrenology. but sure, go with your idea
@Westernden
@Westernden 9 лет назад
Even if you disagree with Anita, you must acknowledge that the hatred launched against her is childish and disproportionate.
@raithos
@raithos 9 лет назад
Westernden This is exactly what I feel. Regardless of the opinions of the actual issues involved, the fact is that the reaction to Anita has been grossly out of proportion. You'd think she murdered a bunch of people with the hate she is receiving.
@MazHem
@MazHem 9 лет назад
raithos From what I've seen, the recent racist mass murderers have been sent less hate than anita and her lot.
@abbyvilayne
@abbyvilayne 9 лет назад
Westernden I'd say "childish and disproportionate" is putting it mildly. It's truly disgusting and ridiculously out of proportion.
@agent42q
@agent42q 9 лет назад
King Abraham III fair. It's an opnion on video games, no reason to be terrorized.
@typicalgymrat22
@typicalgymrat22 9 лет назад
Westernden Yeah but you have to also agree it is strange that they lump reasonable critiques in with haters and call them women hating bigots when all they did was raise points she would never reply to. And that isn't uncommon knowing how much stupid crap she piles up in videos about games she probably never played longer than what required to find a female npc you can do bad stuff to. :)
@fafofafin
@fafofafin 5 лет назад
Hi. This video resurfaced in my radar with Contra's video on Climate Change. And I'd just like to point out that watching this video a few years ago was what prevented me from falling into a bad rabbit hole. I had only ever seen Anita's name be mentioned by these youtube skeptics and was pretty on board with the consensus that she was bad for some reason. Until I saw this video. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks.
@leaf-ne8wf
@leaf-ne8wf 5 лет назад
You should watch shauns video on the analysis of how skeptics and anti-sjw's misrepresent her arguments. It actually encouraged me to watch a lot of her content and realize she's not this evil entity I though she was. I still disagree with a lot of what she says, but people were representing it like she was out for bloodlust lmao...
@tobiasarboe5753
@tobiasarboe5753 5 лет назад
As Rinno say, Anita is kinda weird; on side, she got some relevant videos (lingerie as armour and over-objectification of women) but then, she also, at times, craft false narratives (only womens boops are shown, only women are acted violently against/upon). Basically, Anita shot herself in the foot; presumably, she got too much money which meant she had to make more videos then planned, resulting in videos where she tried to sell a narrative that was just plainly wrong, or at times. pretty irrelevant (women sits differently than men in Destiny. Really?) This is compounded by the fact that she then, at times, acted despicably, she lied and she stole footage from other content creators. The fact that people then went on to shit on her with actual harrasment and threats are not okay
@bunkertons
@bunkertons 5 лет назад
Hey, I came here from another of her videos!
@Snardvark25
@Snardvark25 5 лет назад
Rinnosuke Morichika I agree with you mostly. If only the criticisms of her were of this ilk.
@phxrebirth
@phxrebirth 5 лет назад
I actually disliked this video 4 years ago when I was anti-SJW and involved in Gamergate. I've since leaned far more left and see myself 4 years with shame. I since found his channel again recently and liked his Alt-Right Playbook series. This video is really nuanced and agree with it now. It's kinda interesting to find that I disliked this video some years ago and liking it now.
@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342
@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 4 года назад
Just finished last of us 2 and heard her take on it. She part loved it part hated it basically. I think she made fair points even though I liked it more than her. I disagreed with her a tad bit too. As any normal human would since none of us think completely alike lol duhhh... And also managed to not send a death threat. Weird that I feel the need to say that considering...
@greidel67
@greidel67 5 лет назад
Angry Jack was probably angry when he was in that car, in traffic, because that Beetle was probably a manual transmission. And a manual transmission, on a hill, in traffic, sucks.
@Maksie0
@Maksie0 5 лет назад
You spoiled Yanks and your automatics.
@stoontechguy
@stoontechguy 4 года назад
Every winter where I spend long times with my bad knee pushing my clutch in and out to creep along I fantasize about adding a very low gear to my car. It'd be a mod that'd cost more than switching it to automatic but it's soo tempting.
@harrietr.5073
@harrietr.5073 4 года назад
Doesn't mean that he was in the right to sneer at someone.
@DaDARKPass
@DaDARKPass 4 года назад
I prefer manual transmittion.
@StickWithTrigger
@StickWithTrigger 4 года назад
Too relatable
@ViveLRoi
@ViveLRoi 4 года назад
It's hysterical that anyone thinks Sarkeesian is radical in any way. Her brand of feminism is bland, and overly focused on media critique in a way that feels like...criticism of a specific product, rather than criticism of the system that generated that product. Lindsay Ellis at least has a critique of capitalism in her work, but it still fails to present a specific alternative. It's...toothless.
@vasilivros4166
@vasilivros4166 4 года назад
Hate to break it to ya, but focusing more on the thing itself, rather than "the system" is what objectivity is about. If you analyse game X then the focus should be on game X, not whatever system, society or culture that "created" it.
@AliceLoverdrive
@AliceLoverdrive 4 года назад
@@vasilivros4166 a) "objectivity" and art are things that don't go well together b) focusing only on the game X inevitably leads to nothing but shallow analysis -- nothing exists in a vacuum and we can't just ignore things that happen outside of the specific game world
@gabe_s_videos
@gabe_s_videos 3 года назад
But does that not speak to the fragility of the men who terrorized her? That they're so on-edge about their privilege merely being challenged, let alone taken away, that a mediocre RU-vid critic is enough of a trigger for them to commit domestic terrorism? By their logic, they were lions attacking a wounded gazelle.
@kstar1489
@kstar1489 3 года назад
She’s not radical, but she’s not wrong in a lot of her critiques either
@kstar1489
@kstar1489 3 года назад
@@vasilivros4166 except games don’t exist in a vacuum, they are a part of a culture, and as much as they are a product of it they also influence it
@DanaTheLateBloomingFruitLoop
@DanaTheLateBloomingFruitLoop 4 года назад
I remember hearing about Anita for the first time. I was a young boy, completely engulfed in memes and video games. The biggest threats to my sources of joy at the time appeared to be Christian politicians and concerned parents on one side and feminists and sjws on the other. The information I had at the time was abysmal to put it lightly. The childish way you respond to criticism at that level of maturity wasn't exactly productive in any way either. Don't really know where I'm going with this.
@storrho
@storrho 3 года назад
I think you were about to give me two dollars.
@1ynx
@1ynx 3 года назад
So, basically you admit to, at the very least, participating in GamerGate discussion in unproductive ways in the past? Maybe you even once insulted Sarkeesian? Are you suggesting that maturing not only meant that you started to argue more polite and productively, but also that you changed your views regarding Sarkeesian her critique of pop-culture and videogames? If all of this is correct, then during GamerGate you were the type of person that made it harder for others (like me) to actually argue productively against so-called 'SJW's, and now that you've 'matured' you still make it harder for others (like me) by projecting your personal youthfull anger on all the other people involved with the disccusion surrounding 'GamerGate'. There is nothing wrong with changing your mind, or evaluating ones psychological motivations, but don't project your personal situation on others. And don't confuse it for a rebuttal of the arguments.
@mrahzzz
@mrahzzz 3 года назад
​@@1ynx Eh. They're providing insight into their perspective. I appreciate it and can relate, and think it certainly does speak well to some of the perspectives or experiences of some "angry Jacks" who made the whole gamergate thing into an issue at all. Tl'dr: Fear not. They're not speaking for you - they shared their own experience and thoughts. You're right though - the gamergate shitshow was certainly not a response (or, not an effective, logical response) to any argument.
@1ynx
@1ynx 3 года назад
@@mrahzzz I have a feeling you misunderstood my comment (or maybe I misunderstand yours). To rephrase it bluntly, and without any nuance: "angry Jacks" weren't the ones that made gamergate happen, 'SJW's' did.
@mrahzzz
@mrahzzz 3 года назад
​@@1ynx Perhaps some misunderstanding happened, but I think what's really happening is that we just disagree.
@StonedBakeCake
@StonedBakeCake 4 года назад
I reeeeeeeeeeeally wish I watched a video like this back in 2015. Thankfully I have grown as a person and realized a lot of my faulty thinking stemed from addiction to 4chan and inabilities to understand conservatism =\= open minded and intellectual.
@mrahzzz
@mrahzzz 3 года назад
Gosh it's so nice to see that others were bound to the same thinking traps that I was. I absolutely used to be attached to the idea that conservatism made me somehow an open minded intellectual, and only managed to change my point of view when I started actually engaging in facts surrounding ideas rather than just pre-prepared "gotchas" that made me feel smart.
@auralit8
@auralit8 5 лет назад
I remember following Antia in 2011, when she was first making her tropes vs. women videos. I've been playing video games since I was a little girl, and it made me so happy to see someone unpacking the tropes that repeatedly had made me feel oddly isolated from one of my favourite pastimes. I was excited to think that other people - mostly men - might see her videos and understand where I was coming from when I said I felt hurt by the stereotypes in gaming. Then... gamergate. :(
@niceshoelaces808
@niceshoelaces808 2 года назад
That’s how I felt too. I was 16 and genuinely excited that someone was addressing how women are portrayed/not portrayed in video games. Seeing the extreme, intense response she got…… it was a lot to take in
@janellecande
@janellecande 2 года назад
Same
@SentimentalApe
@SentimentalApe 2 года назад
In a way, gamergate proves your point beyond a shadow of a doubt to the people who might have been wishy-washy about taking your claims seriously. Extremely unfortunate that the harassment happened, but at least it serves as proof.
@some-one-else
@some-one-else 2 года назад
@@SentimentalApe That's a good point. As depressing as it was to see, these big harassment campaigns are probably the only reason I ever ended up finding many activists in the first place. Hopefully when (because unfortunately it's not a matter of if) this happens again there will be more support for the person at the centre of the controversy. Gaming did see a much more progressive turn after gamergate, so perhaps it genuinely did make a positive impact in a very roundabout way.
@ethosterros9430
@ethosterros9430 Год назад
Is this why all of baldurs gate romance options involve you being forced into a nice guy or nice girl meme of putting up with crazy behavior in Hope's of a reward?
@gentlerat
@gentlerat 5 лет назад
When I watch Lindsay Ellis or Contrapoints, I feel like I'm watching unique ideas. With Sarkisian, at least the early stuff from the time period that all the anger started in, I feel like I'm watching old second wave (1970s roughly) ideas combined with TV Tropes. It feels weird that out of all the feminist RU-vidrs, the one that attracts the most anger and attention is the one with the least new things to say.
@silvertamagachi
@silvertamagachi 5 лет назад
She's so . . . mild. I tend to view her as a nice refresher on the basics. "Baby's first SJW," I guess.
@jonanderson4825
@jonanderson4825 5 лет назад
You must not be familiar with the softcore gamer community. Very whiny, very entitled, fragile egos. Also lots of spare time, very brave when firmly entrenched behind their keyboards.
@gentlerat
@gentlerat 5 лет назад
@@silvertamagachi personally I just view her as a throwback. She was openly at odds with Slutwalk, which was the main expression of feminism when she started.
@silvertamagachi
@silvertamagachi 5 лет назад
@@gentlerat Wait really? She one of those super old-school sex-negative feminists? (literally all I know about her is what I've seen from lefttube. I'm not diving into that viper's nest for some middle-of-the-dial blandness)
@gentlerat
@gentlerat 5 лет назад
@@silvertamagachi There's a lot more subtlety to her arguments than that, and it's somewhat hard for me to summarize. She's said in her Tropes vs Women videos she rejects sex-negative vs sex-positive as a dichotomy. Here were her thoughts on Slutwalk. www.google.com/amp/s/feministfrequency.com/2011/05/16/link-round-up-feminist-critiques-of-slutwalk/amp/
@44absol
@44absol 4 года назад
i, for one, do want every videogame to be a walking simulator about lesbians and feelings
@c0nd0rd4myt
@c0nd0rd4myt 4 года назад
Nobody is asking them to be, so you're fine. Hyperbole doesn't help anyone.
@44absol
@44absol 4 года назад
@@c0nd0rd4myt I'm asking them to be. reading comprehension.
@c0nd0rd4myt
@c0nd0rd4myt 4 года назад
@@44absol my bad. Sorry
@WangleLine
@WangleLine 4 года назад
Oh what I'd do for more walking simulators about lesbians and feelings
@yukowolfang8645
@yukowolfang8645 4 года назад
Play the last of us 2
@horseheadkid
@horseheadkid 6 лет назад
“feminism is hated because women are hated. anti-feminism is a direct expression of misogyny; it is the political defence of women hating.” - andrea dworkin
@ethosterros9430
@ethosterros9430 Год назад
Not really. I love women, and it's because I love women I recognize the moral necessity of equality of the genders and equal accountability and responsibility and opportunity across all dimensions for both genders. Feminism is a direct affront to all of those things. Feminism is in itself rooted in deep misogyny.
@SamitaSarkar
@SamitaSarkar 7 лет назад
We all know an Angry Jack lmao. And to any Angry Jack reading this: you can change. Please don't be that guy. Nobody likes that guy.
@General12th
@General12th 7 лет назад
Usually, that guy doesn't like himself, either. He's worried and guilty that he's done just as much harm to society as all those "bad people" he tries to distance himself from.
@noless
@noless 5 лет назад
@@General12th I don't think a lot of feminist like Sarkeesian likes themselves.
@siddbastard
@siddbastard 4 года назад
YOU change and IF you're a good person, you will LEAD BY EXAMPLE. But you people are very busy sniffing your own farts and telling ppl to "just be better" , so i don't know if you have time for that.
@schlunkychicken6079
@schlunkychicken6079 4 года назад
@@siddbastard Found the Angry Jack
@RealNormHall
@RealNormHall 4 года назад
Well damn Samita not everyone can be as saintly/ holy as you.
@zizkazenit7885
@zizkazenit7885 3 года назад
The fact that the worst thing these people can imagine is “ruining games” says a lot about their privilege
@c0nd0rd4myt
@c0nd0rd4myt 3 года назад
Heavan forbid what might happen to this country if those people actually discover something that's worth getting angry about.
@gabe_s_videos
@gabe_s_videos 3 года назад
Exactly.
@goose607
@goose607 3 года назад
@@c0nd0rd4myt and thats why i own guns
@adamski8985
@adamski8985 3 года назад
@black bear they wont listen
@Olluwaaa
@Olluwaaa 3 года назад
@@goose607 dumbass
@ForgottenNavigator
@ForgottenNavigator 4 года назад
I owe Anita Sarkeesian quite a lot. I used to be one of those anonymous trolls that posted vitriol about her. Thankfully I also read the replies. Someone go through to me. I started reading Bell Hooks, studying the beliefs of John Rawls, and actually looking at the media I consumed critically. Six years on and I have made a complete 180 politically and ethically. So thank you, and I'm sorry.
@charlielsie2307
@charlielsie2307 4 года назад
Amazing. i hope you are proud of yourself for turning things around. you were almost a miserable hateful person. i love bell hooks btw, she’s incredible :)) hope you are doing well
@starlina5621
@starlina5621 4 года назад
It's truly respectable to see you admitting your past mistakes and improving in a positive way. I wish more people were like you. Thank you for giving me some hope for humanity 💛
@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342
@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 4 года назад
It's good to see ya grow. I think we all start from places of stupidity and cluelessness in a lot of areas. Some worse than others... Some not as worse than others. It's important to chill the fuck out and learn about how this stuff works instead of just be finger pointing dick weeds lol. That mind set can often lead to extremist douchebagery. The kind that sometimes even devolved into illegal activity. Like death threats and what not... That's a real shame when you sacrifice your future just to own the libs lol. Good for you! I too was quite ignorant. Never hated on this woman really but never liked hearing critics in general which made me less open minded sadly. I'm not longer that person. Let's hear everyone out. Even the dumb ass nazi boot licker types so we can let everyone know how fucked up they are. Don't give em a platform rave dubin style of course but you know what I mean... They need help so address it! Is what I'm saying. As for Anita. She does make good points about equality. I know I wanna see more diversity in gaming. Tired of the same old shit ya know. Give us all kinds of crazy games please. What is out there already is pretty dope but can we go further? Of course we can so lets keep pushing it! Work together yall. Not against each other : ) Love the positivity guys. Keep it up!
@s0lid_sno0ks
@s0lid_sno0ks 4 года назад
pathetic
@DrORRB-qm7fl
@DrORRB-qm7fl 4 года назад
It’s nice to know that people can change no matter how hopeless they seem.
@BlockyPineapples
@BlockyPineapples 8 лет назад
This comment section is quite possibly the most beautiful swamp of irony I have ever seen.
@badmoon1412
@badmoon1412 8 лет назад
you mine people praising this miss representation of Anita,s detractor,s then yes
@lovelessl8848
@lovelessl8848 8 лет назад
what are you even trying to say
@Nukestarmaster
@Nukestarmaster 7 лет назад
+Loveless He means "You [mean] praising this [misrepresentation] of Anita's detractors, then yes." His grammar is not poor enough to be unintelligible.
@Nukestarmaster
@Nukestarmaster 6 лет назад
+Goobernational Congratulations on giving an example of exactly what bad moon meant by a "misrepresentation of Anita's detractors". Does Anita get death threats, yes, but do you know who else gets death threats, half the bloody internet. Everyone who has even a modicum of publicity on the internet will invariably have trolls sending shit like that to them hoping they will react (and boy does Anita react).
@CatacombD
@CatacombD 6 лет назад
+Goobernational What if I disagree with Anita's points about gaming and call her out for outright lies and factual inaccuracies in the Tropes vs. Women series... but also condemn the assholes who send her death threats?
@CaitlinKoi
@CaitlinKoi 8 лет назад
Thank you. I don't really have any opinion on Anita, except that she, along with everyone else, should not be treated with such unbridled rage. No one should be threatened for their opinions.
@AngryNerdBird
@AngryNerdBird 4 года назад
There's a sweet irony in hordes of toxic idiots causing her Kickstarter to take in 26.5x its original stated goal, and making her an overnight celebrity, all in an attempt to shut her up.
@TehAnimationSparxx
@TehAnimationSparxx 4 года назад
I guess it's as sweet as the irony in funding her campaign only to find she would go on to take over five years to finish it less than 5 hours of content, with the end product often rushed and poorly produced in general- despite having exceeded her donation request multifold. There's independent production houses which create longer, more professional content in less time and on a budget smaller than she did with this series. I'm a feminist but i'm glad I didn't donate.
@StolenEyesX
@StolenEyesX 4 года назад
Angry Nerd Bird Yes, strange how that Kickstarter video for her Tropes series has been the only one where she has ever left the comments enabled, isn’t it? Almost as if she did so deliberately to attract negative comments for the attention - which was exactly why she did so.
@StolenEyesX
@StolenEyesX 4 года назад
Joe Average Oh dear. Really? How is calling out a dishonest, disingenuous and manipulative grifter for their lies, misrepresentations and blatant hypocrisy “feeding” them?
@StolenEyesX
@StolenEyesX 4 года назад
I Like Turtles What’s also ironic is that despite all that funding all of her Tropes videos were shot for free in a RU-vid Space, and the majority of the gameplay footage she used was taken from others “Let’s Play” videos without their consent or knowledge. On top of that, the Ordinary Women Series of only five videos was filmed the same way, yet she asked for and got $200,000 for a total of 26 minutes of video. Somehow I very much doubt she would be able to raise such a ridiculous amount of money for such very little content today.
@montserratmx
@montserratmx 4 года назад
I Like Turtles like the 48 laws of power say“there’s no such thing as bad publicity”
@alexjohnson9798
@alexjohnson9798 5 лет назад
rewatching this video after being a hysterical gamergater now as a leftist and realizing how good it is
@Hayden_Cat
@Hayden_Cat 5 лет назад
Alex Johnson same brother same (Or sister?)
@music-ultra1226
@music-ultra1226 5 лет назад
@Alex Johnson welcome home dude!!
@ywnrnf6028
@ywnrnf6028 5 лет назад
This makes me ask... why aren’t their more videos detailing the truth about Gamergate?
@gamercide9592
@gamercide9592 5 лет назад
@bla blahblah Can you expand on this please? What did she fail to deliver? And what "innumerable lies" did she commit?
@Calpsotoma
@Calpsotoma 5 лет назад
Good to have you as a comrade
@pmorales21
@pmorales21 2 года назад
I watch this series at least once a year and every year it holds up. Despite wholeheartedly agreeing with his ideas I need a reminder every once in a while because it speaks to every new thing we are angry about.
@kaarlomakkarakasa440
@kaarlomakkarakasa440 3 года назад
I wish I had watched this when I was 15 and complained about "sjw's". The same "arguments" that seemed so logical to me as a kid make no sense now as an adult. Why was I so angry?
@gkls1743
@gkls1743 3 года назад
Same. I think this series is one of the best ways to pull young men out of the reactionary rabbit hole.
@DousedInPiss
@DousedInPiss 3 года назад
What arguments leveled against her are wrong exactly?
@kaarlomakkarakasa440
@kaarlomakkarakasa440 3 года назад
@@DousedInPiss Not necessarily against her, but that there is some kind of sjw secret society putting black people and women into games, or that this somehow ruins games. Turns out when you work on your racism and sexism, women and poc in games are not an issue.
@DousedInPiss
@DousedInPiss 3 года назад
@@kaarlomakkarakasa440 oh so something that nobody actually believes cool. okay.
@kaarlomakkarakasa440
@kaarlomakkarakasa440 3 года назад
@@DousedInPiss Uhh I just said I believed that kind of stuff tho?? I might have exaggerated a bit but the time around gamergate was wild. I remember people saying that Anita wants to ban white hetero male protagonists or just video games as a whole, and that every lgbtq or poc character in a game was forced in (and sjw's fault) and cencorship of white hetero dudes in games. I can't give you anything specific, as its been like 5 years, but I remember that people spoke of Anita as if she was going to be the end of video games. I honestly cant see any possible criticism of her that would have warranted the amount of harrasment she faces and still faces today. (Btw I'm not sure why you asked me this, but if you're here to argue with me take it elsewhere. If you're just curious thats cool.)
@johngr1747
@johngr1747 3 года назад
I used to be one of the idiots who hate her for her progressive opinions. One huge reason why I regret my conservative phase. I feel sorry for her and now I agree with some of her ideas.
@blet.333
@blet.333 3 года назад
it's better to have your redemption arc under the realization it's all manufactured outrage than to continue straying further into that sort of conspiracy stuff, good job on you for educating yourself out of it and it's understandable why people fell down this rabbit hole, considering youtube's kind of pipeline and Real People who have reasons behind their values being shown as caricatures who want to strip games rights away somehow
@YouthRightsRadical
@YouthRightsRadical 10 месяцев назад
It's strange that you hated her for her progressive opinions when her opinions weren't progressive in the slightest. What could she have possibly said that you identified as progressive and thus hated her for saying?
@johngr1747
@johngr1747 10 месяцев назад
@@YouthRightsRadical Don't discredit her, she was definately progressive!
@YouthRightsRadical
@YouthRightsRadical 10 месяцев назад
@@johngr1747 Like I said, what is it that she's said that led you to think she was progressive? Censoring video games was a conservative pasttime for decades before Anita dipped her toes into it and a big part of what triggered many gamers was her paroting, almost verbatum, the discredited conservative talking points of Jack Thompson from decades ago when he tried to censor video games.
@johngr1747
@johngr1747 10 месяцев назад
@@YouthRightsRadical I don't think she wants games to be censored the way conservatives want. Her points as I recall was about inequality and the representation of women as opposed to that of men...
@irreleverent
@irreleverent 5 лет назад
Am I the only one with this weird, perverse hope that the OG angry Jack sees this video? I'm really just curious what'd happen.
@Rubberman202
@Rubberman202 5 лет назад
I've seen some of Anita's videos, they're... interesting, though in some cases I felt like she was misinformed or didn't really know what she was talking about. Still, much like Phil Fish, I can't help but feel like the hate for her is incredibly overblown and mostly undeserved... but rather than argue that point, I usually just try not to mention her.
@noless
@noless 5 лет назад
It isn't if you have watched her previous videos before her kickstarter. Sarkeesian isn't just a feminist. she's an extremist
@onalos1271
@onalos1271 5 лет назад
They blew it completely out of proportion... because it made a lot of people a lot of money to have someone to point their bony fingers at and send the dogs out to fight. Any rational person would disagree and move on. These people are emotionally immature and hysterical.
@httohot
@httohot 5 лет назад
She gets hate because she is a conartist plain and simple. She has been caught lying multiple times and caught manipulating outrage to furhter her narrative of "poor old me I am being harassed dontate money to me " all the while she spouted absolute bullshit that wasn't even close to being informative or even correct. It would be one thing if she was honest about it all but she was clearly being manipulative to get more views and donations. The public supported her like a bunch of sheep not unlike how Trump got voted in
@ThePlatinumMatt
@ThePlatinumMatt 4 года назад
@@noless What does she say or do that's extreme (and I'm not saying she's not extreme, I'm just curious)
@pickleadaykeepsthedoctoraway
@pickleadaykeepsthedoctoraway 4 года назад
@@ThePlatinumMatt Anita Sarkeesian isn't an extremist. She is low level feminism. The fact these CHUDs think she is an extremist is telling of their knowledge.
@HailSatanLLC
@HailSatanLLC 4 года назад
"I believe censorship of all kinds are bad! If you shut down someone from speaking, you're just trying to censor the truth!" *5 seconds later* "WHAT DO YOU MEAN GAMERS HATE WOMEN!? QUICKLY, DDOS HER WEBSITE AND VANDALIZE HER RU-vid CHANNEL! NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO HEAR THIS!!!! WHAT? IRONY?! WHAT'S THAT?!"
@johnorulzu
@johnorulzu 4 года назад
... What kind of weirdos do this and even so, how many of them are like this compared to a whole?
@xenosbreed
@xenosbreed 3 года назад
How does this video have so many dislikes? The whole video was essentially 'Woman speaks on internet, men send death threats, that's bad, don't do that' and people don't like that messaging?
@trip9845
@trip9845 3 года назад
well the fact is a straw man and leys about people and their real arguments
@shrisiva4016
@shrisiva4016 3 года назад
@OnThe Oreo Yep, far more than women tbh.
@alelandi
@alelandi 2 года назад
That's not the entire video lol
@drsnova7313
@drsnova7313 6 лет назад
My two cents would be: 1. I watched Sarkeesian's videos when they came out, before (or without noticing) all the rage and hate, or any other background information, and found already back then that *some* of them were poorly argued, researched, and she cherry-picking examples, if not outright demonstrating she didn't even know the source material. 2. The angry mob threatening and slandering her disgusts me. I don't like her work - but no-one is forcing me or anyone else to watch it.
@josephTheCel
@josephTheCel 4 года назад
Honestly same. I thought she was at best applying a narrow view of feminism onto specific games and painting it as a medium wide issue (looking you "damsel in distress" with Peach, as if that's not the whole point of the character. Hell we don't need a complex character to Doomguy) and at worse being completely ignorant of the works she was critical of. However there's no excuse for death threats
@shamblestheclown
@shamblestheclown 4 года назад
here's the thing. it's criticized through a feminist lens. obviously it's narrowly reviewed, it's supposed to be seen through one narrow view.
@RandomPerson-gt1jt
@RandomPerson-gt1jt 4 года назад
I kind of agree. I came to her videos when I only vaguely knew about the whole gamergate thing. It's been a while so I can't remember any specific examples of cherry picking. But I do know that there were some videos I disagreed with, and others I found eye-opening. The Mrs. Male video in particular was very interesting, it was a trope I hadn't really thought about before and it kind of speaks to how we see male as the default. I agree with Joe in that it's applying a narrow viewpoint to a big medium. And that's kind of the point: seeing things from a different point of view. Whether or not you agree with the extent of the problem, or even if it's a problem at all, it's still interesting to think about. It's not like she was being extreme or anything, sure she has a bias but for the most part she was presenting her points pretty neutrally, pointing out a trend and letting you draw your own conclusions. The people who believe she is some man-hating, strawmanning villain either assume her behavior just from the fact that she's a feminist, or watch videos of other people who misrepresent her views.
@clairestark9024
@clairestark9024 4 года назад
The gaming press accidentally legitimized the mob as the only outlet for opposition when they refused to critique her and presumed she was be all and end all of the discussion. As I recall Jim sterling said "we dont get to have that conversation now."... As though he has that authority .
@alyssapinon9670
@alyssapinon9670 3 года назад
Sooo truuuue! I’m so happy to see balanced responses to her that don’t treat her as blameless but at the same time acknowledge what a disgusting overreaction the internet had to her
@silentdissonance
@silentdissonance 5 лет назад
I recently posted your series to the documentaries subreddit... and... wow people can't read and *still* think "she's commin' fer our gaems" and completely miss the point. That's... sad, and I'm unsure how to counteract it.
@gabe_s_videos
@gabe_s_videos 3 года назад
DEY TERK ERR GEHHHMMMS!!!
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 2 года назад
What are you gonna expect from Reddit? That platform has a neckbeard side of things.
@iliakatster
@iliakatster 3 года назад
The "calls all men sexist violent bigots" " why do men harass me?" Meme really tells a lot about the people posting it
@christopherlee9026
@christopherlee9026 3 года назад
She didn't do that, can you post one instance, just *one* of her actually doing that? If she's done it publicly either online or off, it should be really easy to post a link to her doing it, right? But why do I feel like you aren't going to do that.
@saijacks3464
@saijacks3464 3 года назад
@@christopherlee9026 I think you might have completely missed what this guy is saying
@christopherlee9026
@christopherlee9026 3 года назад
@@saijacks3464 Ah, I think you might be right, sorry OP
@DeaconShadow
@DeaconShadow 2 года назад
Literally everyone who freaked the fuck out over Sarkessian were telling on themselves.
@whatayaDO543
@whatayaDO543 Год назад
@@saijacks3464 I'm kinda glad Christopher missed the point. Generally shows the infighting one groups has and why this channel is absolute grifting nonsense. Waiting for the day this person gets exposed as a p3do, as all Feminist males do.
@thetruephoenixful
@thetruephoenixful 5 лет назад
What's this? A woman doesn't like the status quo? Attack and threaten her until she goes back into her place as an opinionless (unless it supports me) sex, cleaning, and food maker/give her. What do you mean we're proving her point? Women aren't supposed to dislike what men do.
@Shad0wack
@Shad0wack 5 лет назад
Whats this? A woman saying dumb shit online, kicking a beehive of young men and teens and then whining when she gets stung?
@Silverwind87
@Silverwind87 4 года назад
@@Shad0wack I don't think comparing men to an annoying and painful insect was the analogy you wanted.
@Shad0wack
@Shad0wack 4 года назад
@@Silverwind87 Suits me fine. Bees are an extremely useful and important insect.
@Silverwind87
@Silverwind87 4 года назад
@@Shad0wack I see, so it's still not accurate.
@Shad0wack
@Shad0wack 4 года назад
@@Silverwind87 Lmao ok hon
@Squimblorbimblor
@Squimblorbimblor 3 года назад
It's a shame this video got tanked back in 2015 because of the hate wave against anita and other feminists. Its genuinely a good piece on internet culture and political psychology.
@regisglass5464
@regisglass5464 3 года назад
@black bear i am confused, why are rape and bomb threats a meme simply because others believe there should be good female characters?
@javierititin
@javierititin 3 года назад
@black bear Ignore Regis, he's a troll.
@regisglass5464
@regisglass5464 3 года назад
@@javierititin you are entitled to believe so, however, would you like to answer my queries?
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 2 года назад
@@regisglass5464 I love memes but having a death threat as a meme is just unacceptable.
@regisglass5464
@regisglass5464 2 года назад
@@poweroffriendship2.0 agreed
@quantumperception
@quantumperception 5 лет назад
I think I might be an "Angry Jack". I can't tell if it is the current times in which I live, or because I am getting older, but I am definitely becoming more of an angry person. That said, I am angry about things that you didn't mention in the video. I am angry about the rise of the alt-right, white nationalists, identitarians, or whatever Neo-Nazis call themselves now. I am angry that there are mass shooting almost every day or two, and that they are frequently done by bigoted people. I am angry about double standards, even when they exist among my fellow progressives- perhaps even more angered by that, because I expect better from people who otherwise share my values. I am angry about corporate greed, and the destruction of the environment. I am angry about so many things, that I struggle to name them all here. I was happier when I was younger, perhaps because I was unaware of these problems, but also because some of them weren't as bad as they are now. Part of me wishes that I could go back to that blissful ignorance, but most of me is glad that I am aware now, so that I able to fight for change in the ways that I can. It is still frustrating though, that I am now burdened by this awareness of just how f*cked up everything is currently. I wish that I could still be aware and fight for change, but be more Zen about it, and not let it effect my happiness.
@GeneralBolas
@GeneralBolas 5 лет назад
You're not really "Angry Jack" in the sense that this video series is talking about. This is dealt with in the next video more specifically, but "Angry Jack" refers to something more than just someone who is angry. It's about the specific sort of anger that comes from the mere *existence* of something that seems objectively to be rather innocuous. Anger about mass shootings is a valid response; it's causing the death of innocent human lives. Anger at rising fascism is a valid response; it promises to cause pain and strife if it gets too big. And so forth. "Angry Jack" is primarily angry about something that should not provoke that *level* of anger that they give off. Someone making a video suggesting that videogames are part of cultural media and thus reflect the sexism in that culture should not invoke sufficient anger to yield *death threats.* That's "Angry Jack"'s kind of anger.
@tybooskie
@tybooskie 5 лет назад
Congratulations; you are now black woman adjacent.
@trentonmcclintock7836
@trentonmcclintock7836 5 лет назад
*begins a slow clap* yes man. hey! everyone! get in here and give this man some likes and let's get this circle jerk going! dude you are amazing. you're so virtuous. oh my god everyone is just so impressed, you have no idea.
@Vallinen92
@Vallinen92 5 лет назад
I can relate.
@MachonyLeeoun
@MachonyLeeoun 5 лет назад
@@trentonmcclintock7836 Way to fall down the asshole bottomless pit there
@stoontechguy
@stoontechguy 4 года назад
The weird thing is that there IS a lot of parallels between geek culture and oppressed minority groups, especially ones like homosexuality where you can sometimes/sorta hide being a part of it and you worry about being "outed". It's not (usually) to the same scale but if you're in middle or high school it can feel/be just as bad. I say weird thing because most of that is now gone with geek things being openly accepted before most of these people online were old enough to experience it. Also that taste of oppression should lead them to be more empathetic about it but instead they use it as an excuse.
@oooooopppps12
@oooooopppps12 4 года назад
There is a quote from Rich Burlew's character Durkon Thundershield,"...Most people talk about the seductive power of evil but I think good is just as slippery a slope. Doing good, even seeing other people do good, feels good. Eventually that feeling gets to you. Sometimes i think the only reason more evil folks dont succumb to it is that it feels bad to realize how bad you've been. Most would rather pretend to feel nothing than to experience that pain." Speaking as a former angry bullied kid, empathy requires a level of self reflection, but that requires a level or self honesty as well which can be painful to rationalize with the idea that you are a "good person," if what you were doing wasnt something a "good person" would do. Rather than admit they made a mistake and take the time to acknowledge the changes that should be made they'd rather make the person expressing concern out to be the "bad guy" and make them feel bad for saying anything. Denial leading to deflection leading demonization, leading to call for the destruction of the apparent foe... all for pointing out how its kind of unfortunate that women are largely considered narratively expendable in a large chunk of gaming media, relegated to prizes to be won, or damsels to be saved. Which in itself can be a further deconstructed part of gamer psychology on the issue but then this is already too long lol
@hrnekbezucha
@hrnekbezucha 2 года назад
This is the video series that made me seriously re-think my social and political views. Thanks :)
@polymphus
@polymphus 4 года назад
Seeing Ian Miles Cheong's twitter feed show up in a video from 2015 is an absolute trip You could probably write a whole book about that dude's radicalisation
@whensomethingcriesagain
@whensomethingcriesagain Год назад
Or rather his re-radicalization, since he kinda started out far right then went to something more sane, before ping-ponging back to the far right stuff
@alexramey2062
@alexramey2062 5 лет назад
I have my issues with Anita and her arguments, but I absolutely agree that the sheer amount of vitriol shes received over the years has been grossly out of proportion.
@thekillingerescapeplan4286
@thekillingerescapeplan4286 4 года назад
Hey you are not alone with this opinion ^^
@rRekko
@rRekko 4 года назад
It's not just her, but people on all sides and even people like me, who like to listen to both sides, even if i have my very own opinions, for some stuff i'm more of a lefty, for other more of a right wing. The tribalism has been rampant this past decade, and it's stronger than ever right now.
@ulfricstormcloak3657
@ulfricstormcloak3657 4 года назад
All of this "you're a liberal or you're a alt right" is bullshit. There are middle points. Right has left things and vice versa
@kylelongjohn837
@kylelongjohn837 4 года назад
Hey, the bitch deserves all of it. Left wing nuttjobs gotta go.
@yerrrrrrrr4567
@yerrrrrrrr4567 4 года назад
Kyle Longjohn what she do to deserve death threats?
@katherinemorelle7115
@katherinemorelle7115 5 лет назад
Funnily enough, there’s a species of bird thy my family calls “angry jacks”. They’re actually Apostle birds, or Happy Jacks. It’s just that they seem not to much on the happy side. Hence, angry jacks. This has nothing to do with the video, but I thought it amusing nonetheless.
@BeanChilling
@BeanChilling 4 года назад
I feel bad for the people who didn't get to enjoy TLOU2 because of their hatred for "non-standard" protagonists and went to review bomb the game without really playing the game. It is such a nice game with deep and memorable characters tbh. Even the combat is enjoyable.
@BonusEggs4Sale
@BonusEggs4Sale 4 года назад
The chud conspiracy theory that Anita wrote or had anything to do with the game is stupidly hilarious.
@kylelongjohn837
@kylelongjohn837 4 года назад
The game was trash.
@BeanChilling
@BeanChilling 4 года назад
@@kylelongjohn837 you could always follow up with some elaboration to add weight to your statement.
@BonusEggs4Sale
@BonusEggs4Sale 4 года назад
@@kylelongjohn837 lol no
@finnorourke4861
@finnorourke4861 3 года назад
I disliked the fact that it had the great emphasis on combat feeling good, yet the big bad didn’t get murdered in a visual representation of letting go for the better, even though we sat back and killed all of the big bads friends. I dunno, message felt conflicting, good story tho. Not as good as the first but I did really enjoy the level design of it
@Jimmieadamsp
@Jimmieadamsp 2 года назад
I feel so embarrassed for listening to these trolls and agreeing with them. She didn't deserve this crap.
@valentinewiggin7782
@valentinewiggin7782 Год назад
Same.
@noless
@noless Год назад
She did deserve it. SHe was a liar and a fraud. She told journalists that se was always a gamer and that she loves them but then a clip of her surfaces where she says that she isn't a gamer, have no interest in playing the, and that she had to do research for a project she had made regarding video games since she didn't know anything about them.
@YEY0806
@YEY0806 Год назад
@noless but does that warrant all the death threats, whining, and digital bullying of innocent feminists, SJW's, and of her? Because that is the real concern that should be taken seriously, manchildren throwing a dangerous derogatory fit over an inconsequential opinion just to justify their hatred
@SSJKirik
@SSJKirik Год назад
Same. I'm just glad I never sent a shitty message to someone, despite how involved with this garbage I was at the time.
@pierregravel-primeau702
@pierregravel-primeau702 Год назад
You have no clue my dear. Nazi VS Nazi...
@chudpunter
@chudpunter 5 месяцев назад
it's been a decade and weirdos are _still_ seething over this lady. go outside, make friends, form a relationship with another actual human being.
@mre1561
@mre1561 3 месяца назад
How about these feminists leave people to their hobbies and stop trying to come into something they've had absolutely NO INTEREST IN TO BEGIN WITH until it became more popular rearranging the rules.
@chudpunter
@chudpunter 3 месяца назад
touch grass, weenie
@nairbtj
@nairbtj 3 месяца назад
@@mre1561I’m a gamer, hardcore rpg guy, and I’m not gonna lie man, these feminists will not leave you alone, because the world will not leave them alone. Sharia law, the death threats to Zoe Quinn and Anita, and how feminists are scapegoated, they will exist until we die.
@jacobcrowder2600
@jacobcrowder2600 12 дней назад
​@@mre1561BROOOO seek fucking help, you are not mentally well. Go to a doctor, see a therapist, fucking anything. This behavior you're exhibiting is NOT normal, healthy, or okay. There is something wrong with you mentally.
@purgatoriprytania5382
@purgatoriprytania5382 5 лет назад
It may have been a sign of gaming's growing cultural legitimacy (along the genuinely thought-provoking an artistically sophisticated games that have been around pretty much since the inception of the medium), but the backlash sadly demonstrated the opposite when it comes to at least a vocal minority of gamers themselves.
@MrTed-xi2iz
@MrTed-xi2iz 4 года назад
Bruh, I was literally thinking last night in shower how I used to hate Anita Sarkeesian but now admire her work and RU-vid just recommended this to me today. What. The. Fuck.
@trip9845
@trip9845 4 года назад
what do you admire her work?
@guitarmonkeyj
@guitarmonkeyj 5 лет назад
Jack looks like Kamoshida from Persona 5
@loorthedarkelf8353
@loorthedarkelf8353 2 года назад
As a human being who was thoroughly bullied, why humans get so angry at other humans for innocuous things has been a subject of fascination for as long as I have had memory. I have been trying to figure out what my crime against the status quo has been since I understood that there was one, and that understanding came at 6. I realized that being the youngest child got me different treatment than my older siblings, and made the mistake of having that realization out loud and both my older siblings thought I was bragging about that fact when I was just coming to terms with it, and things got even worse at home. At school was the worst. I won't get into the details, but what is the sickness troubling the soul of humanity is kind of what I've been obsessed with for as long as people have been hurting me with it This series helped me realize why anger is important. We see it in others for the wrong things, and people try to demonize anger and violence on the whole. But those are forces of change, we get angry because we've been hurt and because change is necessary when we've been harmed. But it can't be blind If it's time to be angry, you must be angry with both eyes open, and be ready to step back if there is a third party in the blast range who had nothing to do with that rage's subject. We must be consciously, purposefully angry if we want to get anything done.
@ApocryphalDude
@ApocryphalDude 4 года назад
If people can go to jail for DDOS attacks against the church of Sci ent olo gee, has anyone done even been charged for this?
@PIZA5039
@PIZA5039 6 лет назад
I still like Lindsay’s reviews a lot more. I just think she is an all around better critic than Anita and I feel like her videos are all around more informative. As a latinax Woman I can firmly say I prefer Lindsay over Anitia. Very informative video here too! People need to give more valid criticism of her work rather than just labeling her. There are tones of critics I can think of but those are pushed aside for a fake narrative and she does not deserve to be harassed.
@savagechicken4518
@savagechicken4518 3 года назад
Me too
@gabe_s_videos
@gabe_s_videos 2 года назад
When it comes to video essays, IMO, it's Lindsey Ellis and everyone else.
@joelsytairo6338
@joelsytairo6338 2 года назад
Strange how Lindsay Ellis didn’t get nearly as much hate as Anita and they literally spoke about the same exact things
@austinreed7343
@austinreed7343 Год назад
Anita is blamed for TLOU2.
@blueizumi
@blueizumi Год назад
That is actually a great point. Maybe it’s because Ellis was TheNostalgicChick and had a history with TheNostalgicCritic so people were more mature to Ellis’s criticism? I wonder if Ellis hadn’t had that background would she had received the exact amount of hate as Anita.
@matrix91234
@matrix91234 Год назад
Because Lindsay Ellis unlike Sarkeesian has more knowledge about what she is talking about. Though not enough for me to go to Nebula TV and support Sarkeesian, since they are friends apparently. Basically problem is Anita Sarkeesian is alot like Donald Trump, they both have surface level of knowledge about what they talk about, Trump knows about business (or conning atleast) but knows zero about politics, just like Anita Sarkeesian knows about feminist activism but has zero knowledge about video games. But Lindsay Ellis LEGIT has geek knowledge on it so she knows from her perspective what she is talking about, heck i would say if you watch "top 11 dumbasses in distress" by Nostalgia Critic, that too is informative because again Nostalgia Critic knows his stuff
@danielrazo450
@danielrazo450 6 лет назад
Oh yes. I remember when Sarkeesian single handledly ruined videogames back in 2012. Now it's 2018 and you can't find any white male protagonist in any videogame, not even one. Do you remember when Nintendo released a video where Princess Peach publicly executed Mario as a symbol of war against men that ended with no-male working in the videogame industry back in 2016?. Yeah, these were rough times for men...
@TheFiresloth
@TheFiresloth 6 лет назад
Since they made Geralt a black lesbian identifying as a zebra, nothing is the same anymore. How long will the terrible oppression of white male continue ?
@if7723
@if7723 5 лет назад
@@TheFiresloth Until Gears of War 6 when they stop making your player character chainsaw his own balls for 5 hours and settle for 3.
@anonymoushuman8443
@anonymoushuman8443 3 года назад
What if they told you why they’re angry but you just dismissed them as sexist or racist?
@williamchamberlain2263
@williamchamberlain2263 3 года назад
Have you watched the start of part 2 of this series, which shows environmentalists going angry-Jack?
@KaiDecadence
@KaiDecadence 3 года назад
Well the honest truth is that sometimes it can be laced in those concepts and that is what makes the anger much more potent because it's being confronted and no one really likes confrontation.
@echo12345ish
@echo12345ish 4 года назад
Saw people try to blame her for The Last of Us Part 2 lol
@kiriki4558
@kiriki4558 4 года назад
Lol me too. People just need to acept that the culture Is changing (and for the best) and it Is being reflected in media products.
@echo12345ish
@echo12345ish 4 года назад
@@kiriki4558 the same guys that said "If you don't like it, make your own" are the same dudes crying that people are actually going out and making their own shit
@kiriki4558
@kiriki4558 4 года назад
@@echo12345ish yeah, it's just a never-ending search of excuses to reject diversity.
@BeanChilling
@BeanChilling 4 года назад
@@echo12345ish aka bigots
@Venom96930
@Venom96930 3 года назад
@@kiriki4558 Please say sike.
@ilect1690
@ilect1690 Год назад
"2009 wasn't that long ago" me checks the video release date "2015" WAIT 2015 WAS 8 YEARS AGO?!?!?
@francocarrizosparosvich4638
@francocarrizosparosvich4638 4 года назад
If anyone wants to get depressed put the comments in "recents first". Yikes.
@GallowglassVT
@GallowglassVT 5 лет назад
I had no idea that the abuse levied at her was THAT explicit. Bloody hell, this is why 4chan needs to be fumigated.
@eartianwerewolf
@eartianwerewolf 5 лет назад
I think a lot of people minimized the harassment. I think I did that just because the internet is such a nasty place.
@OM-st6uz
@OM-st6uz 5 лет назад
Most of the "death threats" are hoaxed by Anita or her friends. www.returnofkings.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/BwJNnfUCAAA9VrZ.jpg During a U.N meeting she and her group of pathological liars attempted to abolish free speech using not only her completely fabricated tweets but also simply disagreeing with her should be a state offense. Anita is an insane Totalitarian sociopath who uses her victim-hood status as a tool to achieve her extremist ideologies
@OM-st6uz
@OM-st6uz 5 лет назад
@@shea2111 If you want to believe that fictional video games which don't have any bigoted intentions are making people sexist is less insane than someone who attempted to repeal the fucking first amendment at a UN conference just may be using alt accounts to get sympathy then you can fuck right off.
@deedumeday518
@deedumeday518 5 лет назад
@@OM-st6uz How do we know YOUR presentation of her "hoax" is credible anyways? Sure, sure my guy...
@OM-st6uz
@OM-st6uz 5 лет назад
@@deedumeday518 Because if you're making alt accounts to send yourself death threats and then a few days later you're at a U.N meeting trying to censor the whole fucking internet what else could you be doing?
@abysmalist4761
@abysmalist4761 4 года назад
i like how anita wasn't really that much of a big deal before some 4chan dwellers tried to take her down, those guys forgot one very basic law of exposure
@IneptVirus
@IneptVirus 2 года назад
I relate to the opening scene in the fact that when I'm driving I'm concentrating, and when I'm concentrating I scowl like I'm seethingly angry. But really I'm listening to something dumb like K-pop and jamming along
@lozfoe444
@lozfoe444 9 лет назад
It begins.
@dasraffnix9471
@dasraffnix9471 3 года назад
Let's be honest, tropes vs. women was bullshit, but the backlash was way overproportioned.
@regisglass5464
@regisglass5464 3 года назад
It was fairly accurate in proving the sexism in the industry. Mostly because the "complaints" or "criticisms" were just rape threats.
@dasraffnix9471
@dasraffnix9471 3 года назад
@@regisglass5464 Saying that video games are sexist, because the women are sexy is not a valid argument in my opinion. At the core, that was her argument and it's not like the men in video games aren't unbelievably gorgeous as well.
@regisglass5464
@regisglass5464 3 года назад
@@dasraffnix9471 Apologies, but why is being met with rape threats when saying sexism exists not validate her point? Surely you agree the fear they had that women would stop being "sexy" for them was ludicrous?
@dasraffnix9471
@dasraffnix9471 3 года назад
@@regisglass5464 her interpretation of the matter was blatantly false. The harassment she faced went too far tho, but the criticism was valid. No one would complain about beautiful people in media, because obviously you want to depict the beauty standards of the time. I don't complain about Tom Holland or other actors just because they look better than me despite the fact that some (and I can't stress this enough) some women expect men to look like him.
@regisglass5464
@regisglass5464 3 года назад
@@dasraffnix9471 precisely, as we agree the criticism of her removing "sexy" women from men is ludicrous, why is her receiving rape threats not validate her views when she stated sexism exists?
@lucideandre
@lucideandre 2 года назад
The meme at 6:41 is especially ironic, isn’t it? Like, it’s trying to justify unjustifiable behavior by saying “she called us this. So to fight it, we’re gonna prove her right!”
@gabrielreines
@gabrielreines 3 года назад
man, i can't believe i was one of THOSE people once this was all going down.
@brodiecrain13
@brodiecrain13 6 лет назад
I think Anita does deserve to be criticized. She has talked out her ass and has lied about a lot of games. But she did not deserve the death threats or all the other shit. She deserves to be criticized for being a genuinely shitty content creator and person. But no one deserves to be raped or killed for the content they make or the opinions they have. I'm not an anti-feminist, and I know women like Anita don't speak for all of them. We should not judge entire groups because they have extremists who make them look horrible.
@johnarkansas6033
@johnarkansas6033 Год назад
Yes she does. Although, I really wish that her criticisms isn't all the time mockery. I would've loved a Tumblr blog which just really digs into her arguments and presents the thing she criticizes and presents it in a non-mocking way. I would appreciate that. Well. We have this dude making the vids now but still, would've appreciated something like that.
@thisismyrealpicture6888
@thisismyrealpicture6888 5 лет назад
I love the video, and pretty much all your content, but have you ever considered that Jack was angry because a bunch of kids were gawking and pointing at him saying "Dude! He looks like Colin!"
@TheLichloved
@TheLichloved 5 лет назад
Fair point. Most of the internet is still misogynistic. The question is not how is Anita right or wrong but why are they so angry about her. Men who discuss similar topics (for example, Pop Culture Detective) do not get even a half of the same hatred.
@trip9845
@trip9845 5 лет назад
it because is the media not propping him up and there why are they so angry about her. the same reason people don't like Jack thompson she makes the same arguments and bull shit claims
@YogGroove
@YogGroove 5 лет назад
Because Pop Culture Detective scrubs any comments resembling disagreement. As it appears this channel does as well.
@AndroidsDontDance
@AndroidsDontDance 5 лет назад
@@YogGroove It's been 3 days and your comment is still up. People tend to think because they don't see a ton of opposing arguments (or ones that match their own) that the channel or website must be deleting them. It's a concept typed out as long as controversial ideas have been presented on the internet. The lack of opposition doesn't mean censorship.
@Calpsotoma
@Calpsotoma 5 лет назад
Are they as popular?
@OM-st6uz
@OM-st6uz 5 лет назад
Is pop culture detective payed vast amounts of money and demanding outright censorship because of what offends them? No. These sorts of channels are still victim pandering garbage but not on the level of Anita Sarkeesian.
@aimeemariet
@aimeemariet 5 лет назад
Time to dust this off and start sharing it places again.
@DukeOnkled
@DukeOnkled 5 лет назад
GamerGate was an absolute mess of theoretically good intentions being instantly mangled and used as weapons by ambitious sociopaths. There were no winners in that disaster, certainly not the rest of us.
@drallure8958
@drallure8958 5 лет назад
She made a lot of objectively wrong points too, which made it easier to latch onto her.
@TheSolarWolf
@TheSolarWolf 5 лет назад
It's more subjectively wrong then objectively.
@nonsensicalabyss
@nonsensicalabyss 5 лет назад
It's a pyrrhic victory essentially
@MrTrombonebandgeek
@MrTrombonebandgeek 5 лет назад
I do remember being at “ground zero” for gamergate, and i can agree to this. Given that it was at the beginning for game journalling ethics; but over time it devolved from that to “women in games bad” mentality im ashamed to see associated with what used to be the cause.
@abby8043
@abby8043 5 лет назад
@@MrTrombonebandgeek /v/ and 4chan as a whole really did go down the shitter huh? I wish everyone listened to the few saying /pol/ needed to leave. 4chan has always been a shithole but somehow its worse now.
@weridpanthegeek
@weridpanthegeek 5 лет назад
I really enjoyed this video. I was one of the people who brought into it all at the time. Im so glad that i am no longer buy into that logic. Distancing myself as far away from it as I can
@KECOYA
@KECOYA 5 лет назад
you're an idiot if your opinion can be skewed this easily. He didn't bring up any counter points to the points made against Anita just labelled everyone angry as cluelessly angry for no reason essentially saying there must be no reason to be angry at her. She wasn't a gamer before she wanted to enhance her career as a feminist and make a shit tone of money wrongfully bashing games. If you remember she literally played hit man by just going up to strippers and killing them and then saying that the game endorses killing women and so is bigoted. This is like an extremist Christian mum who wants to ban GTA cause you go around shooting people, she is the embodiment of the nagging Christian parent within the games community and she literally stated she was never into videogames before the fact.
@onalos1271
@onalos1271 5 лет назад
Glad you realized how ridiculous it was. But some people found someone to get everyone angry at and it made them a whole lot of money. Outrage sells, unfortunately for everyone else.
@OzCroc
@OzCroc 4 года назад
@@KECOYA Even if Anita was 100% wrong, this video was mainly about how awful people treated her, which was an objective truth.
@dstarr3
@dstarr3 9 лет назад
Haven't watched it yet, but based on the title... Oh boy. This is going to raise a bit of faff, isn't it?
@CG-eh6oe
@CG-eh6oe 4 года назад
Its funny to see how the like/dislike ratio improves over the series. Almost like people who disagree with you dont have the courage to listen to more than 1/6 of your point. This is actually really sad, because i actually think most of them would agree with a lot you say in 3-6.
@tostupidforname
@tostupidforname 4 года назад
Its not about courage. Its the same reason i dont have to listen to nazi speeches. I get the point and because of the strong bias i dont think i can get anything of worth out of it. At least thats how i see it.
@grimmjowjeaguerjaquez5065
@grimmjowjeaguerjaquez5065 4 года назад
@@tostupidforname strong bias of Innuendo Studios for speaking about the situation (not defending) this woman? why would you compare nazis to this, hell.
@tostupidforname
@tostupidforname 4 года назад
​@@grimmjowjeaguerjaquez5065 Im bringing up nazis because they are a clear example. Whats wrong with that? Im not saying she is a nazi just that there is nothing of value here for me so ofc im not going to watch the whole series .Like nazi speeches. This is something i dont understand. Saying "Your grades are worse/better than hitlers" doesnt compare the person to hitler in any other way than grades.
@evilkniefel
@evilkniefel 6 лет назад
Nowadays, you see a social commentary with alot of dislikes it's probably insightful.
@Robbay363
@Robbay363 5 лет назад
In my experience I’ve found most of Anita’s hate club haven’t actually watched her videos at all. But rather have watched out of context clips from other dumb right wing RU-vidrs. “She claimed overwatch doesn’t have diverse body types!” No. She said the marketing only showed the slim attractive ones. She actually gives the game itself credit for including the other character. Watch the vids yourself, in their entirety, with an open mind, then draw a conclusion.
@xenon8927
@xenon8927 3 года назад
Fun fact: cut off anyone who still says feminazi unironically
@kevine9474
@kevine9474 3 года назад
How is that a fun fact? Or hell, even make sense? Are libtards this dumb now? Damn.
@TurtleChad1
@TurtleChad1 3 года назад
@@kevine9474 cut off anyone who still says libtard unironically
@meerkats9317
@meerkats9317 4 года назад
I disagree with her big time. But I am against harrassing her. She can have her opinion and I'll have mine.
@waspoppin4784
@waspoppin4784 4 года назад
Abhrajyoti Pal good job, you are not insane
@StolenEyesX
@StolenEyesX 4 года назад
Well said, completely agree. I am also very much against the harassment of Sarkeesian or anyone else - not just because it is of course utterly reprehensible, but also in her case because it is exactly what she wants to fuel her narrative.
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 2 года назад
At least you did some respect.
@the34zydc.64
@the34zydc.64 4 года назад
Yeah, I have my critiques of Anita Sarkeesian's work, but only because I think she's generally implying the intents of game developers and assuming the effects on their audience. This bullshit with people sending her death threats and saying they would rape her is simply wrong, and nowhere near the correct course of action to reasonably debunk these things.
@kiriki4558
@kiriki4558 4 года назад
I think this just proves the misoginy in the culture. Cause is not just her. A lot of actresses and have received the same treatment because of trivial "reasons". Like, i don''t like her character, she is "rude"(usually this means that she express their opinion about this treatment or about the media, that misoginist don't like) because of her apearance, things like that. Yet actors and male celebrities general when do cuestionable and even ilegal things , people just forgive them, like "it was just a bad moment in their careers" or try to justify them.
@javierititin
@javierititin 4 года назад
@@kiriki4558 male actors and celebrities do equally questionable things and get the same backlash.
@jadebarnes2716
@jadebarnes2716 3 года назад
@@javierititin no they do not. Not even close
@עומרשרייבר-ל4ר
@עומרשרייבר-ל4ר 4 года назад
I remember when I used to hate anita during my reactionary years. But then I grow out of that phase and realized that she is not really radical as mysognists make her to be. That was a dark time for me and I'm glad in finally out of it. I'm still dotn agree with anita about everything but I stopped thinking she was hitler incarnated.
@עומרשרייבר-ל4ר
@עומרשרייבר-ל4ר 4 года назад
@ryan jones yeah I guess.
@graysonwilson-cacciapalle7989
@graysonwilson-cacciapalle7989 5 лет назад
Aw, what would be so bad about a game about lesbians and feelings?
@olive4093
@olive4093 5 лет назад
Ikr :/
@Chrisy7
@Chrisy7 4 года назад
Life is Strange has entered the chat
@fernandosegovia8806
@fernandosegovia8806 4 года назад
@@Chrisy7 That exactly, and also, it wouldn't be Bloodborne
@cameronb7161
@cameronb7161 Год назад
I do not agree with Anitas opinions or how she puts them out there, but there is absolutely no good reason to send her death threats or try to make her feel threatened.
@jackotrades0888
@jackotrades0888 2 года назад
I don’t agree with Anita on a lot of things but what happened to her was completely unjustifiable. It doesn’t matter how many lukewarm takes someone has, they don’t deserve this level of harassment.
@EnderPryde
@EnderPryde 6 лет назад
So... I think, at least for me, that the issue I have with Anita compared with other feminist video essayists like Lindsey Ellis is that she's just not... intellectually honest enough. Using Lindsey as the example, whenever she makes a mistake and misattributes a narrative device or idea, she typically corrects herself in some capacity, whether through tumblr, another video, twitter, or any of her blog posts. When she erroneously described certain aspects of the five act structure in one of her videos, she corrected herself later and admitted error, citing that it had literally been years since even needing to work with these ideas. This is fine, and demonstrates an openness to positive critique and a willingness to grow as a person. Anita just seems to only ever double down on her mistakes. If someone calls out her errors, even in a positive critique, she doesn't adjust course or correct herself. Does this mean she deserves the vitriol and death threats? Of course not. But I'm just describing why I'm angry with her. I think why MOST people are angry with her is honestly just a format issue. She's demonstrably wrong about data points (and that's fine by itself) but she's formatted and pitches her body of work as an educational piece compared to the philosophical/opinion piece it actually is.
@EuroMIX2
@EuroMIX2 4 года назад
I don't always agree with Lindsey, but at least she shows more self-awareness and charisma than Anita ever did, and at least the former has supposedly studied film, so she can at least use that knowledge to support her critique.
@josephTheCel
@josephTheCel 4 года назад
@Becky C. this is an issue I've been talking about with a lot of bisexuals lately. It's great having more representation but when the representation we get quickly falls into cliches it just salts and reopens a wound they were in the process of healing.
@TheGamingPolitician
@TheGamingPolitician 3 года назад
I disagree with Sarkeesian most of the time and she’s said some pretty stupid shit, but damn these people harassing her are disgusting
@rickrolld1367
@rickrolld1367 3 года назад
@black bear No it wasn't, how the fuck is receiving death threats a good thing? You are really acting like the ass right now
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 2 года назад
@black bear I disagree. Who in the right mind that death threats make you famous?
@rickrolld1367
@rickrolld1367 2 года назад
@black bear Telling someone that you'll murder them in their sleep is not valid criticism, and to try and force Anita Sarkisian into the box of "exploiting victimhood" is like trying to fit a camel through the eye of a needle
@rickrolld1367
@rickrolld1367 2 года назад
@black bear She received on average 10 death threats a day. That's a lot of threats made on someone's life, and something no one can just ignore. People have tried to leak her IP address, or track her down, or tried to attack her, DDOS'd her, etc. This woman has been through so much pain, and you sit here and shame her for surviving that.
@rickrolld1367
@rickrolld1367 2 года назад
@black bear Well, thanks for being so uncaring about others' pain so openly, now people will know to avoid you from now on.
@orangepencolossus
@orangepencolossus 5 лет назад
Too be fair, Anita doesn't fucking deserve this. Fuck the internet sometimes...
@hya2in8
@hya2in8 5 лет назад
the amount of dislikes on these videos is shameful
@trip9845
@trip9845 5 лет назад
yes it to low
@dylanrodrigues
@dylanrodrigues 4 года назад
Tyler Basile haha libtard owned amirite vewy epic
@someonehandsomewithoneeye
@someonehandsomewithoneeye 4 года назад
@Joe Average I don't think it's alt-right brigading. This RU-vid after all, not Reddit. The dislikes probably came from people who found the random video through chance and disagreed with the contents of the video.
@TheTELproductions
@TheTELproductions Год назад
Who is to say Jack was angry at you lmao, I get your analogy but the actual guy might have been going through stuff that had nothing to do with you, esp considering he was nice in person, I just wonder if you wanted him to be angry at you, when actually was just going about his day not focusing on you at all
@Jffeeney3rd
@Jffeeney3rd Месяц назад
Much like “angry jack” a lot of her alleged tormentors were completely imaginary. I can’t be the only one who figured that out right away at the beginning of this video, no?
@moosewhisker8072
@moosewhisker8072 5 лет назад
I'm so angry because I sneezed all over my cereal :(
@torfinnzempel6123
@torfinnzempel6123 Год назад
I can provide an answer. Downward economic pressure. We live in a society that is highly stratified into hierarchies of wealth. For a couple of generations there has been uoward economic mobility for a large swath of (mostly) white people (what we generally call the middle class today). However that has changed recently. Gen x is the first of generation of white middle class people to face downward economic pressure since 1929. The group you are talking to primarily is this generation, they are more economically disadvantaged then their parents, they work longer hours for less pay than their parents and vastly fewer will ever own a home than their parents. And they know it. This is why they are angry.
@EmmanuelEytan
@EmmanuelEytan Год назад
You can dislike Anita Sarkeesian without hating her. I was overall very disappointed in her work. I started with her videos about games, long after the project was funded. She made some excellent points that really impressed me. For example, she pointed out in her Ms. Pac Man episode how, in Thomas Was Alone, the character of Clare was a blue square as opposed to a pink shape. She also credited the ending of the first Monkey Island game as putting the female NPC Elaine Marley, in a position where she was not objectified. I think it was in the damsel in distress episode. Most of her comments ewer about the types of games I don't play, mostly action adventure. She explained how the camera is always positioned in such a way to objectify women in third-person games. More importantly (even though I don't play those games, I was impressed by that point), how most female characters were just a male character reskinned. She showed the female avater watching a female stripper in game I've never played. I think a Mass Effect. I think my disappointment came when I started getting into her comments about TV. She seemed outraged at how pregnancy was exploited in science fiction, even though it's a difficult moment for women. She took examples from Star Trek. First of all, each Star Trek series was trying to make 22 episodes a year and they were using any concept they could think of. Also, Star Trek tends to be an allegory of real problems. Would avoiding that problem been better? In general she seems to consider, with no justification whatsoever, that ideas that most likely came out of necessity actually came out of malice. The last video I saw with her was her first video about the Thirteenth Doctor in Doctor Who, the one played by Jodie Whittaker. (I personally was braced for the worst because I had mostly seen her in roles where she was a weeping housewife and I was blown away by her as the Doctor. Unfortunately, her showrunner, Chris Chibnall, did, according to me, an awful job with both of his seasons. It was a terrible waste of her incredible performance.) Sarkeesian criticized the episode that portrayed Rosa Parks as a topic that was out of bounds for British producers. The Doctor travels through time and space, met Nixon a couple of years earlier, lost track of Amy in New York, but Rosa Parks was, according to Sarkeesian, an forbidden topic. Also, she complained about American characters portrayed by British actors. This confirmed my impression that her opinions are overall pretty biased and not, or maybe no longer, that constructive. While her observations were undeniably astute, she definitely seemed to add motivations to those observations that came out of nowhere. I'm not a fan. That being said, she clearly is a great contribution to her field and other people may have a better opinion of her work that I do. (Does this make me a hater?)
@colonelspicymustard
@colonelspicymustard Год назад
bigot
@KJmusic97
@KJmusic97 5 лет назад
Why is everyone talking about Sarkeesian's critics? Of course you have a right to share an opinion, but if this woman faced this much shit she's already on guard for more. That's why she probably fends off any criticism that seems to target her aggressively, because she expects it to become something much worse.
@bubblegumbabeface6629
@bubblegumbabeface6629 4 года назад
I just find it funny how feminist who come on the internet are completely taken aback and surprised at shitposters and shitposting.
@Alex-fu4md
@Alex-fu4md 4 года назад
lol doxxing someone and threatening to rape and dismember them. What a funny, harmless shitpost!
@c0nd0rd4myt
@c0nd0rd4myt 4 года назад
I find it funny that people think disgusting behavior can be justified by how prevalent it is.
@bubblegumbabeface6629
@bubblegumbabeface6629 4 года назад
@@c0nd0rd4myt It has nothing to do with justification it's more what did you expect? I don't like it how these people make it out like this stuff just started happening once feminist came online. This kind of behavior has been happening for years, more prevalenty to men. Some of the most bullied people in the history of the internet right now are men, yet these same people say nothing about this sort of thing and were no where to help when these things were happening. It's something much older than there presence online that they are now trying to tell us "Isn't okay'' because it's happening to them as if it was okay previously. We're far normalized to shitposting culture on the internet because shitposting culture is as old as the internet. These people are coming into something that's been going on for years. A proud message would be let's ''Finally'' stop online harassment towards everyone, not ''This is happening to women thus this is bad" because no...this isn't a womans issue this is a people issue that's been going on long before feminist like her stepped foot on the internet. It reminds me of this kind of logic. ---Chinese are being massacred for years in China ----No one bats an eye ----White women show up to help and three of them die ------Whole worlds response:"This is a horrible tragedy! We MUST do something about these horrible atrocities being committed against women in China! No one gives a fuck until the pretty white women start getting it. No one gave a fuck about Chris No one gave a fuck about Dragon Lord No one gave a fuck about Wings No one gave a fuck about DSP No one gave a fuck about Omega Male Anita Sarkeesian and Zoe Quinn join the chat----"Oh hell no, this is wrong lads" Fuck off with that.
@c0nd0rd4myt
@c0nd0rd4myt 4 года назад
@@bubblegumbabeface6629"What did you expect" = "This is just the way things are" = "Justified" And for the record, "what did you expect" varies depending on who you ask. I expect people to have enough grasp on reality to recognize that a death threat, even if not fully intended, is never appropriate, especially not because some young lady planned to make some videos that were critical of a thing you liked. I don't think anybody expected the vile things that occurred, certainly not given the utterly benign things that triggered this. If you can find a quote from Quinn, Zarkeesian, or any of the other victims of Gamergate where they said or implied that they were the first to ever get attacked on the internet, I'd love to read it, but we both know that isn't the case. That it's "normal" doesn't make it acceptable, and even by internet standards, what happened with Sarkeesian and Quinn was severe. Getting the FBI involved because of the number of death threats you received is far and above normal. Even people who pay attention to gaming and the internet hadn't seen things get as bad as it did before(and, again, even if this wasn't unprecedented territory wouldn't make it okay). You're trying to play both sides and it doesn't work. Either this kind of bullying is acceptable, or it's not. You can't moan and whine about how this behavior shouldn't be okay under any circumstances but than justify some cases of bullying because nobody came to the defense of five media personalities that are important to you personally (that I've never even heard of, TBH)
@jackcarlson4358
@jackcarlson4358 7 лет назад
I like this video but my name is also Jack so it feels a little awkward. Hmmm.
@grantdillon3420
@grantdillon3420 3 года назад
In this comment, I aim to lay out a definitional criticism of this video. This isn't criticism of the video's whole message, but criticism about a specific focal point of the video: I want to be clear that I oppose the sexism, misogyny, racism, and general hate-mongering that these men from gamer culture show. I think it's awful. That being said, there is a danger in this way of thinking, "why are you so angry?" The danger, of course, is gaslighting, intentional or otherwise. Questioning a person's character, motivations, or background because of their expression of anger is a common technique used by authoritarian groups, abusers, and tribalistic political movements to control, gaslight, and delegitimize critics. I want to be adamant, in no way am I saying this is you or that you're even close to that. The point I am making is of the importance of legitimizing people's feelings. This is why many psychologists, and indeed, many therapeutic techniques, have at their core, a baseline of validating feelings. In this instance, it would be that anger is valid. Even if it's really intense, and you express it intensely, anger is valid. The differentiating factor here would be found in how you express your anger. That is, it's valid to have anger and to express it, with the condition that you care about the person's feelings you are expressing anger to. These men are angry for various reasons, but the biggest problem is that they show a profound lack of empathy. Therefore, I believe the more accurate question for these men perpetuating this abuse, is "why do you feel it's okay to disregard someone else's feelings?" Rather than "why are you so angry?"
@KnotsOfWonders
@KnotsOfWonders 3 года назад
The world needs more people like you Grant.
@defenestrator3844
@defenestrator3844 5 лет назад
Lol I so want the actual angry jack to see this video
@lovegood141
@lovegood141 2 года назад
I’m just learning about gamergate today and Jesus I really wish I never knew anything about this 😭
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