I think we’re caught between two eras of football. There’s the past, where managers were the focal point and everything that happened at the club was the managers responsibility. Their signings, their tactics, their man management, their coaching, their management of player fitness, morale. If the club didn’t perform, it was their fault. If they won anything, it was their success. And then there’s modern football, where we know that coaches exist, and recruitment departments and negotiation departments and medical teams and onboarding HR and everything is broken down. The manager doesn’t run that, the sporting director and the CEO and the owners run that. But the media still acts like it’s the old days. If a club is doing poorly, regardless of what our eyes tell us, about how poor recruitment is, or players not keeping fit, or players not training well, or signings not landing, or negotiations taking too long, badly planned pre-seasons, bad player culture. They always go after the manager, or they go after a specific player, like everything will be fixed by replacing that cog. And we know now, when you see Arteta at Arsenal, or Alonso at Leverkusen. This idea of big clubs needing to hire managers with big name value, it’s not true. And the whole project doesn’t fail because of the manager.
Bayern have been unmanageable ever since key players - Muller in particular, but also the other veterans such as Neuer - threw the towel to ensure Ancelotti got sacked 3 months into the season because they wanted him to train them like Guardiola. The same Ancelotti who is now kicking their butts. Way too much player power there. Also winning 11 domestic titles in a row has distorted expectations and any manager will be judged against that. To put things into perspective: imagine if Heynckes had been sacked in 2012 after losing 2 finals and finishing 2nd in the league? There would have been no treble in 2013.
You can see the crack in the Munich dressing room post Lahm cus Alaba, Lewa unceremoniously left despite performing well and Alaba was supposed to be "the next" captain. Muller and Neuer hold too much power and wield it in a petty manner. When Lahm was captain he let Bastian Neuer and Muller have a voice.
U idiots are really clueless, no player epitomizes Bayern more than Thomas Muller and you clowns are accusing him of ruining him. THOMAS MULLER IS BAYERN MUNICH
The ego of the bosses is so palpable it's gross. I can imagine they're stinking up the place with that attitude. They've forgotten that it is the people who make the institution.
Of course Karl-Heinz Rummenige has an offical role as member of the board of the Bayern München AG - which is not the club but the company of the mens football team, where the club owns 70% of the shares
If I were Bayern I’d try to convince Matthias Jaissle. Everyone forgot about him once he left to Saudi Arabia but I think he’s a good coach despite him only having two years of experience. Sampaoli, Van Nistelrooy, & Urs Fischer are the only ones I can think of that are relatively good managers that could work maybe? Either way Freund and Eberl lost respect when they were thinking of getting Ten Hag
Bayern have sacked so many managers after less than 2 seasons, I feel like part of the problem is that now good managers see this and don’t want to go to Bayern where they will likely be sacked within 12 months regardless of success.
Because Bayern as currently constituted is a freaking mess. They need to rid themselves of at least 10 current players and they need to start to rebuild that porous defense. Given some of the statements from top management about keeping the team together, I would like for a 4th or 5th place in next year’s Bundesliga.
*I blame the roster.* Players did conspire against Nagelsmann. Tuchel came and saw the cesspool the roster is, so he decided to leave as soon as possible. The team needs to be purged so they can get a new coach. Nobody will take the team as it is now.
@@pennywise1682 Tuchel did complain about the poor compromise from the roster as soon as they started to lose again. He said he was leaving at the end of the season no matter what
You are correct. This isn't something novel at Bayern, it's been going on at least since Guardiola's departure 8 years ago. Players conspiring actively to undermine the manager for reasons as ridiculous as "training sessions are not hard enough" (which is what Muller said during Ancelotti's time - the same Muller who is now unable to play 10 minutes against Real Madrid without being gassed while Ancelotti's methods are working just fine). There is too much player power, particularly the core of Neuer-Muller calling the shots and deciding what manager is worthy of staying.
@@rexcolt9742No they told him he was going. They actually asked him to stay recently and he agreed in principle. Then he saw their terms of agreement and changed his mind. It's a real s--t show.
@@toomuchinformation Yes. Both Müller and Neuer, the leaders of the group, gave in and asked Tuchel to stay. Tuchel is not an id**t. He is still leaving.
@@konzza Yep, and throw in the egos of Neuer and Muller who are are nostalgic for the training methods of Guardiola and you've got a fantastic soap op recipe.
Ayo not laughing off Ragnick and recognizing his positive job at Austria NT shows how good he is as a host. It would have been easy for him to just go on and ignore what he did after the United debacle to give some hyperbolic rhetoric but he instead tried to make a sense out of the Bayern approach.
I think that one of the reason is the owner wants a “quick change “ The coaches could not have a enough time to build for his team. It took Klopp at least 4 or 5 yeas to be successful at Liverpool.
Because they are like Chelsea and sack managers way too often. I think they will try to get Klopp after his break in a year or two but I think he's too wise to what goes on there.
Why do all the top teams never go for Bielsa😂😂.Strange how everyone always praises him as been so brilliant but no one wants him. Could it be that he is not really a top manager 😂😂
Difficult to control. Has his own principles he's very hard to get to budge from. Unpredictable. These days he's also old. Many of those things are undesirable for the top clubs.
Players not wanting to renew and poor transfers in recent times, Bayern could fall off if Leipzig, Dortmund and Leverkusen even Stuggart keep goinh upwards in their trajectories. Also, apart from Pavlovic where are the young players in the squad? Musiala wants to not renew and then all the politics going on. Yes on paper its a good job but in practice you can see why people don't want it.
I agree with everything you said except that Bayern fall off. Munich is a powerhouse, there is not a chance that BVB, Leverkusen and Stuttgart will rise ENOUGH to reach and overthrown Bayern from the top of Bundesliga. For them it's always a "one off" season, like this one for example with absolutely phenomenal Leverkusen team. But in a long run? Heads of top management will roll, complete reshuffle of the board, any kind of cataclysm but no way that Bayern will give breather big enough for competitors to catch up
Mate, this is Germany. Teams like Leverkusen and Dortmund peak for 2-3 years max and then disappear. The likes of Werder and Stuttgart even managed to get relegated after winning the league and being CL regulars throughout the 2000s. That is if they can avoid having their players plucked by Bayern.
Because of the club culture. The heads of Bayern Munich have a lot of control and are over opinionated. Pep will not train Bayern again because of that.
Bayern have some great kids coming through the ranks. The new manager must be capable and willing to play them. That's the only way they can be moulded into generational talents, and Tuchel clearly was a short term success manager only.
Bayern Munich is one of those clubs that its run like a political party; that's always a problem during hard times because of all the mini-wars factions fight inside the club, and nothing gets really done until a faction finally "takes over" or some external guy comes to the club and starts amassing power to "really" get things working like an owner That model of "paying associates" and "committees" and "elections" is total garbage in the long run
Trust a spurs fan to also be a Bayern fan. Need to get those trophies from somewhere I suppose, except when spurs players play for them. What a shameless loser.
Idk how to say it but some of the songs almost do a good job experimenting but this album still feels simple. Also if you consider her pre release the album is much shorter. I feel like if she do what Taylor does and just make sure each album has a ton of songs so she has variation.
Should just keep Tuchel, Bayern are hardly any worse than they’ve been the last 5 years it just looks worse cuz Bayer haven’t lost. And really, if Bayern wasn’t missing half their team to the Injured List allllllll year, they’d likely be a good bit better off. Sure, spend the money this summer to get better, get rid of the injury prone guys in attack aside from Sane, and run it back and see what happens. Odds are that Bayer comes back to earth and Bayern are better than this year and win the league and start a new streak
Lahm is the operating director of the Euro 2024. So he went into business/sports management. If anything he might be CEO of Bayern Munich one day. Schweinsteiger went into commentating/punditry
