@@pbkayakyerif the roster wasn’t injured we would’ve had a better shot at winning tbh but y’all prolly would’ve still won cause well, brady is brady and his team was insane that year
I kinda think it's funnier without the voice in this context. Makes it seem like the voice is for show and he'll only use his real voice around guys who absolutely no one would believe (camp body types excluding Butker, he's just never going to be believed because his commencement speech)
Idk know if y’all know this but Harrison butker has the second best field goal percentage in history, and he is only behind tucker. Ain’t no way we would trade him.
I agree that kickers should be treated as important given how much influence they have on the game, but if you look at the NFL as a whole, they historically don't give a damn about kickers. Sure, Tucker is amazing and I think he is worth any contract he gets. But you don't see kickers getting selected in the draft and you don't hear them talked about much, unless it's to crap on them. At least in my opinion.
Kickers value is increasing more and more. Like a quarter of games are decided by 3 points or less. The last 3 years the super bowl has been decided by 3 points. There are more close games and more scoring and it's important to have a good kicker. I'm a Seahawks fan and in 2017 our kicker outright cost us 3 different games. We finished 9-7 and missed the playoffs.
Without Harrison Butker there would have been no back to back Super Bowl Champion's. While the offense was figuring it out and the defense was holding opponents offense to very little points... Harrison Butker was kicking field goal 's, putting points on the board!! Harrison kicked all the points on the board in one of the winning games. I'm so glad he's on the Chiefs. He's a great player and a great man.
@@cynicallydepressed1 So no free speech? Bro did nothing wrong just cuz waht he may say may hurt ppl's feelings doesn't mean he isn't allowed to speak.
@@declancain2988, 'free speech' is literally only...ONLY from government interference... OTHERWISE??? We ALL can feel the impacts of our speech in our lives...in our workplace, our peer or friend groups, social settings... Free speech means 'free from governmental control', NOT 'free from consequences'. Which...he took some flak, kept his job, I'm really not even sure what the issue was. Just being anachronistic to the times one lives in (and talking about it) isn't necessarily grounds for being fired. He wasn't outright racist, just mildly misogynistic...as long as people don't care about how women feel about being told how to think (and this country still clearly does NOT), it's fine. But...anybody, on any 'side' of any topic saying things outside the middle/norm HAS to consider they might catch some grief. America is a VERY conservative country. Still...even now. More...'progressive' than it was before, sure, but... I'm old enough that when I was a kid, my mom couldn't get a credit card if my dad didn't sign her onto his. That was a thing in MY lifetime. My parents, both of them, grew up when younger, in grammar school (and functionally in high school too) in segregated schools, parks, churches, restaurants, everything, EVERYWHERE, all the time. That wasn't the 'Civil War', that was the 1950s. In 'the most free country on Earth'. The Catholic pope, during World War 2 was not using his (literal) bully pulpit, he was mush-mouth about millions of Jews dying (and trust me, he KNEW). I was christened Catholic, spent way too much time in the churches as a kid (all Polish on one side, German-Irish on the other, so...drunk Catholics, here we come). I'm fine with people having their opinions, but we all have some ideas that others don't 'like' and to pretend that nobody is going differ with us is silly. If we say those things in public spaces, we have to understand that might get blown up and blow back on us. That is what happened here, so that is what it is... For ME, personally, I can definitely live without hearing more nonsense from super conservative/alt-righters...and I was a solid GOP voter for decades. I'm just tired of hearing it.
@@cynicallydepressed1yeah but they are associated with the college, not active in the administration. And all the students at the graduation gave multiple standing ovations so I think the target audience of the graduation speech were fans of what he was saying.
Every kicker usually has the opportunity to win a game every season. The thing is if the Chiefs are having trouble getting into the endzone....they're in trouble.
Lol nothing's wrong with having a family. It's exactly like Bran said...he was at a commencement going off about his values instead of trying to inspire the graduates. The message was one thing, the time and place was what got the attention.
@@Muhammadwasapedo was going to say this, all he spoke about were catholic values which you would expect would fit a catholic college, but of course someone got offended who was likely not even one of those students or even related to the college so he gets a bunch of hate.
@@Muhammadwasapedo I'm sorry but if I'm about to graduate with student loans and a degree I worked really hard for, one of the last things I want to hear is that those two things are irrelevant compared to being a mom or wife. The Bible itself states that not everyone is meant to marry. And as a Catholic you shouldn't be having children out of wedlock. Again, nothing wrong with the message if that's his belief. But the time and place wasn't right
@@christenford3864 good thing he didn’t say having kids or being married is more important, or that a degree is irrelevant. He just said he assumes most of the women are more excited about marriage than working, which as a friend to many college age Catholics, is a pretty safe bet.
It was also a Catholic speech at a Catholic graduation so, I personally don’t see any problems with it. It’s his religion, he has the right to talk about it without getting flamed by everyone and their moms. (Not being rude, just stating something)
@@nightwinglopez I get this perspective, but it's hard for people to ignore when someone essentially says, "Women should stay in the kitchen". No matter the cultural context of the person it's still gross to call for a diminishing of women's lifestyles. He has the right to say these things I suppose, but people also have the right to feel pretty darn gross about it.
@@Davenel621you put quotes around that but that’s not what he said. He said his wife became a homemaker after having their children. No clue why any women would send their kids away to day care when one of the parents has a job making 7 figures. The sad part is, most of young couples today can’t afford to have the wife or the husband stay home even if they wanted to. So liberating right?
@@Davenel621i would have said it different than butker but message isn’t gross it you frame it correctly. There is nothing wrong with women wanting to stay home and raise their kids. As a society people scoff at people who do that, wondering why they haven’t prioritized their career. Families matter. I was raised by a stay at home mom until my dad passed away and she had to start working. I’m so glad I had that time with my mom as a kid. She is one of my best friends and we still talk a few times a week.
Well, to be clear, for a LOT of people, it was offensive and immoral to THEM. Not 'criminal', obviously...but extremely unpopular and that was equally downplayed by OTHER parts of the media... "trouble" isn't the narrow definition a lot of people on these comments want it to be. If some guy at a speech said "All the guns and bibles should be confiscated tomorrow." the other half of the world would lose their poop, and that would ALSO be 'trouble', especially for a player from the South. It's perspective that makes these things 'controversial', all depending on which perspective one has relevant to any given topic.
Those who kill babies, slander good men, and want your daughters to be slaves to their jobs instead of having a family and actually contributing to society say he's "wrong"@@cynicallydepressed1
@cynicallydepressed1 so someone says something that you disagree with. They don't demand you do it. They don't try and force you to do it. They simply state their opinion. Is the leftwing actually that intolerant that they physically can not allow him to keep his job while having different opinions? That's very sad and very pathetic.
Harrison Butker being thrown in with all these players who committed actual crimes is like the single clown amongst the soldiers meme, but instead he’s the only soldier amongst clowns. My man did nothing wrong
I feel like having a misogynistic view on women isn't specifically a Cathloic only thing. Just as being Catholic doesn't necessarily make you a misogynist. I agree it's not a crime to have ass backwards beliefs, but it has in fact added to a distraction of Rice being an actual piece of shit.
Butker didn’t even commit a crime. He just said what he believes and the media blew it way out of proportion and context. You don’t have to agree with it.
Like yeah he didn't commit a crime, but telling a bunch of women who just graduated college, "your life doesn't actually begin until you start a family and have kids" is wild. He basically had the regressive mindset of "women shouldn't have careers and should trad wives" in the year of 2024.
Ah the crime of saying you can be a homemaker and that it can also be fulfilling. What a cad! He should've told them to sleep with a 1000 dudes, do drugs, and enter the military. Then he'd be cool
@@cynicallydepressed1 I wonder who is more mindless, someone who lives life questioning their existence, to decide that life in itself is meaningless and the world is nothing but a meer reflection of the chaos of random luck? Using mathematics and the sciences to explain away the mystery of the universe yet not truly understanding what life really is. Atleast with those who worship the Lord, each one of us have experienced how this world is truly fallen, but we can still see the beauty in our Lord's design. We don't spend our days questioning what are just simple truths. I bet you couldn't tell me what a woman or a man is could you? Actually you could, but your mindless indoctrinate tells you there aren't such boundaries and limitations in the world. Cause you live in your own fantasy, where you are the center of it.
But but but.... you could do his job.... well OK maybe NOT U but they could do a person sitting in ROW A seat 1 is today's kicker..... and they would be fine
@@Da_Infamousno the fuck they wouldn’t. I don’t think you understand how hard it is to be an nfl kicker. Especially at that level. He’s damn near the best kicker in the league. One of the best kickers of all time.
@@user-os6ps1ls3s Kap said his political stuff on the field. Butker said his during the off-season. Also, Butker got a standing ovation for his speech, so if the people who were listening weren't offended, who cares.
@@user-os6ps1ls3s Kaepernick dug his own grave by making scenes at his place of work. And to be fair, he was falling off by that point anyway. It’s the same with Trevor Bauer. He MIGHT be able to play in the MLB still, but no one wants to deal with that headache of a player. All Butker did was make a speech about how society is discouraging women from building families. He never said there was anything wrong with women pursuing a career, or even putting their career first- but the fact remains that society is trending in the direction of discouraging having families. That’s bad. It wasn’t sexist, just poorly timed. To compare Butker to Kaepernick is ridiculous and unfair.
Kaepernick also wouldn't have been nearly as controversial if he had done it quietly. Kneeling for the anthem was actually a suggestion from a US military veteran as a form of respectful protest. Wearing socks depicting police officers as pigs pushed his rhetoric into another realm.
@@user-os6ps1ls3sKaepernick wasn't black balled, he was mediocre at best and so people wouldn't pay him starting QB money. He could have taken a back up job or moved to WR and people would have gladly given him a job but he felt shooting himself in the foot and disrespecting the flag was a better use of his time.
Even Catholics don’t believe that stuff butker said some messed up stuff I’m not advocating for him to be cut but the NFL blackballed Kaepernick for less so just saying 😊
@user-os6ps1ls3s And your wrong. Their are and I would argue most of the Christian faith leans toward what he said vs the Methodists and their full embrace of the activist bs known as the pride flag.
ehhhh he went a little further than that lol not on the level of the others by any means but a college graduation just isn't the place for someone to go on a political rant
@@SkylerShubinyea no shit quit being obtuse lol the first half of his speech was literally him going on a tangent about how much he hates Biden and giving his two cents on issues that are completely unrelated to a college commencement
@@user-os6ps1ls3s The dude spoke at a catholic college and spoke of their ideology, and much less he didn't degrade anyone or say anything wrong. Ppl getting butthurt over it are dumbasses and ppl trying to twist the words, or hell they didn't watch it at all! So good try but nothing wrong there
Not...really. He has views (entirely entitled to them, certainly) that are NOT where even most Catholics 'are' nowadays. The nuns at the school called him out the next day.
@@cynicallydepressed1I mean… define most Catholics tho. Bc sure liberal Biden style Catholics don’t agree, but traditional Catholics like the ones who choose to attend Benedictine do - the graduates literally gave him multiple standing ovations (even the female graduates)
@@beevee00, I guess you are right in the hardcore, alt-right Catholics that are remaining (can't leave all the child molestation to the Baptists) are probably pretty happy with being told what to do, since that is what religion is FOR, after all. What I guess I SHOULD have said is...a whole lot of people have left Catholicism (and organized religion in general) BECAUSE it still seeks to control people, especially women. My bad, for not being more specific or clear. I apologize. *Not an atheist, for the record...
I'm telling you they're going to start persecuting all Christians because we live in the successor of the Roman Republic, and no longer is Christianity are ruling theology and philosophy. Our society is godless, in a nation where mothers kill their babies, you would expect such things.
@@cynicallydepressed1reminding women they have choices and don't have to conform to today's nonsense that you have to be working to be fulfilled sounds decent and nice but I guess to all you professional victims (aka pieces if shit) it's controversial.
I’m sorry but don’t bring up Butker situation as only 2% of people who heard about it care what he said to and event he was invited to give a speech at a Private Christian College that he got a standing ovation at.
people can clap and still feel uncomfortable, idk why this point always gets thrown around. it may be true that it was received well, but the applause doesn’t guarantee that.
wait he got a standing ovation? i dident know that. this whole time i thought his disparaging comments on women and gay people weren't okay but now that i know he got a round of applause...my bad
@@samfc23please enlighten us all how he disparaged women by reminding them that they can feel fulfilled by their careers or creating a family?? God forbid someone remind them they still have choices rather than listening to feminist BS that says they have to work to be successful. You are the problem here, not him.
@mmbleachtasty6121 reminding women that they don't have to conform to societal pressure to live in their careers is being sexist? No wonder nobody takes you fake feminist seriously anymore, you've all lost your minds. his reputation?you mean him being the #1 selling jersey and not being able to find his jersey anywhere and bring invited to talk at other schools 🤣 yep sounds like his reputation really took a hit
'Nothing wrong' is clearly subjective... Nothing CRIMINAL, definitely true. Nothing 'wrong'...a lot of people disagree. Which is fine, both ways. As long as it isn't violent, opinions varying can be healthy for a society. Semantics-wise, though...a LOT of people (including nuns AT THE SCHOOL) disagree, quite vehemently.
@@inkarceration4069, yeah, I'm a middle aged white guy, a conservative leaning moderate/independent and a Deist... I'm not remotely 'woke'. I'm just not the snowflake you and your far-alt-right ilk are so that a moderate 'feels' left when really, just still moderate. If we took the Constitution at it's words (which I'm certain folks like you do NOT), we would limit guns (for instance) to only people in 'well regulated militias', and we wouldn't be acting all disingenuous about what those words ACTUALLY mean, not what we 'feel' they should mean because we want guns. Even with this very conservative/Republican court, they have said that there can and should be SOME limits on what weapons the general public can have. Yet, for many who aren't just gun-owners or even 'enthusiasts', but the actual gun-nuts, that is still 'wrong'. But is it? Because the LAW has stated one thing (limits, as few as they are) and the people that want mentally ill folks and domestically violent people to have guns have their feeling hurt. By your standard, those are just feelings though, and if they own a gun that goes beyond what was set down in Heller (for example), they need to take those feelings and pay the price for breaking the law. Similarly, one current major party nominee has been convicted of 34 legal counts of law breaking. You are entirely behind those convictions, right? Because a jury of his own (by way of his legal representation) was gathered and found him guilty after his many legal days in court. Everybody whining now needs to stop because the law has decided he was guilty, the way we decide everybody else's guilt or innocent in this country (and he actually got away with behavior most defendants do NOT). ALSO...everybody found guilty for their crimes on January 6th needs to stop whining, as do every one of their defenders, correct? Breaking the law is wrong, hurt feelings aren't wrong, right? YOU, Inky, should be less woke.
So, just asking, it’s okay for everyone else to say what they believe and everyone applauds them for bravery, but if Butker shares his beliefs at a conservative school graduation, that’s past off as bad? I’m confused. Who decides what’s okay and what is not? Social media? Politicians?
The media does. And they will twist and twist the life out of any irrelevant thing to make someone who doesn’t share their personal beliefs look bad, even if they did absolutely nothing wrong (like Butker)
I think multiple things can be true…. 1.) Butker didnt break any laws and can say what he wants but that doesnt disclose him from people disagreeing. 2.) It was a graduation ceremony, yes catholic but Is that really a time and place to talk political policies and his beliefs? I mean, to me doesnt feel like it should be. The speech should be encouraging and not continue the point he made about “Staying in your lane.” 3.) Yes it was a catholic school and a majority agreed, I did hear not everyone agreed but majority. 4.) Anything anyone says people will disagree/agree with. It’s about what each individual believes. But clearly there are more main stream society beliefs.
I think the point was that we aren't allowed to disagree with the media perception of what is "correct" otherwise it's -ist or -phobe. These guys literally break the law and don't get much flak for it from the media but man, give a speech about traditional values and all hell breaks loose.
@@losingisntloosing.stopit1396, it is SO easy to blame 'the media' for everything, because, yeah, they aren't what they once were...but the outrage in this case was from people's reaction to simply what the media reported. That is different. You give me facts that I don't like, that isn't YOUR fault, that is simply me not liking what you reported. "Don't kill the messenger"-type stuff. From the 'guys breaking the law' angle, it is total garbage if these guys get to keep their jobs if proven guilty, but that is how all of sports has been for a VERY long time. Same with celebrities, same with politicians. Rarely held to proper account. I think, though, that sports dudes get a (undeserved) 'pass', because the bar has been so lowered that people kind of just 'expect' it and just shrug. "Another dancing bear goes crazy...must be a Tuesday...yawn..."
M_Baker, it is society in general...small groups can sometimes be 'louder', but this was not some 'small group', it was a large chunk of the country, including nuns who live and work AT THE SCHOOL. We all can say what we want, but the notion that ALL speech is 'free' is misguided at best. Free from governmental intervention (unless in Floriduh), yes. But free from blowback at work or home or the park or in a bar? Not even close. People still being surprised that social media might not go the way they want it is what surprises me... We are all 'on the clock' all day, everyday, at this point. Anything we say can and probably will be used against us in the court of public opinion. We had a president (and may again) who admitted to groping (so, sexually assaulting them) with impunity and he got elected after people knew that. How the public perceives and deals with public statements or actions can change (and does, constantly). That is just how things are, and have been for quite a while.
Pretty sure Harrison Butker single handedly won the Chiefs multiple games through only kicking last year. Theyd never trade the best kicker in the league
What if you're just a far-right 'miron' that doesn't understand most of the country doesn't agree with what he said? Just asking...for humanity. He still has his job BECAUSE he is very good at his one thing. Otherwise, who knows?
@@cynicallydepressed1 1) YT AI censors messages with certain words, so those of us who are frequently shadowbanned know the workarounds; 2) You think over half the country disagrees with "a woman can have a successful career, but will find more enjoyment/fulfillment from her family?" 3) Or do you believe he said "women should be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen," which is what the Left straw-manned to their 'miron' voter base? From your response, it's clearly #3.
@@cynicallydepressed1most of the country doesn't agree that women have choices and don't have to put their lives into their careers to be successful? Then fuck most of the country, as they would be the bad guys here not butker. Good thing you don't speak for most of the country loser 😂😂😂
@@cynicallydepressed1 Yeah!!! Historically, the masses have ALWAYS been moral, just, and correct and never manipulated into doing anything counter to what's best for humanity. Everybody knows that...Just like silencing or punishing dissenting opinions has ALWAYS been a tool for those with the morally superior stance and not those afraid to have their arguments compete in the marketplace of ideas. Like, Duh..
@@washingtoncommandcenter5541, interestingly enough...I imagine one could say that 'either way', right? From either party's/political stance's 'side', they could say exactly what you said, but attribute to 'the other side'. Which...they mostly do.
Man.. I wish parents would stop telling their kids that they're special. That's how you end up with stupid comments like this one... Those classes you took weren't for the smart kind of special, Richie.
@@Erik-gf9uxThat’s all well and good, but it’s not enough time if you ask me, not to mention the felons on/previously on the team itself are still roaming free.
@@Erik-gf9ux Oh, no no. He served less than half that sentence before his sentence was commuted. Go ask the young girl that suffered severe brain injuries from his negligence. You are being deceptive. "Reid, the son of Chiefs head coach Andy Reid, was sentenced on Nov. 1, 2022 to serve three years in state prison after pleading guilty to a felony count of driving while intoxicated resulting in serious physical injury. Britt Reid had served less than half of that sentence by Friday, when he was among 39 individuals on a list released by the governor's office of people who had their sentences pardoned or commuted − the latter of which means lessening a sentence, either in severity or duration."
The kicker did nothing wrong. Literally everyone else committed arrestable crimes while he spoke at a graduation about Catholics to Catholics 😂😂 yall hating to hate
I agree with the Jesus and guns part but where I live (right next to KC), I’ve never seen/smelled drugs except for about two times but they got arrested pretty fast. My grandparents live in KC and have never had any problems with it
@@cynicallydepressed1 have you ever been to Missouri? Other than St Louis and certain parts of downtown Kansas City (all cities have spots like this) it's a really beautiful state
@@Crypt_keeper6 What did he say to women? That being a wife and a mother is more important than a job? Thats true for men too. A career is to serve a home life, not the other way around.
@aaronpaul9188 he wad telling the female graduates that they should look forward more to being a wife and child bearer then the carrier opportunity they have with graduating I know that's standard catholic shit just not the right time to say that
Butker is a phenomenal kicker that we would never get rid of. And for what it’s worth, after that speech his jersey sold out. Not just the Men’s. The Women’s jerseys too
If he wasn't a top-2 kicker, 'wrong' might be more subjective...but this is the NFL, and they have murderers in the Hall of Fame, so simply saying things very unpopular with a giant chunk of the population is fine...for now...while he is still good.
I guarantee if the kicker were Islamic and gave an Islamic speech at an Islamic college…he’d not be in this clip. That’s why I hate these stupid shots.
Yeah, it sold out, and it was a kickers jersey so it was already in minimal stock. If you go Jersey for Jersey it’s not even in the top 50. Get out of your cult, it’s sad.
Exactly,@@jasonherrmann1944...they had like fifty jerseys of his sitting around, so selling those out means nothing. Dude's own mom could have bought them and burned them the next day, we have no idea.
Clearly the ignorance of the Leftists is on full display. Simple Google query proves their damage control is a lie. "In fact, it's been the opposite for the Chiefs kicker, whose jersey now ranks among the NFL Shop's top sellers. On the NFL Shop, Butker's men's jersey and T-shirt have ranked among the "most popular" Chiefs gear, even outpacing fellow teammates Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce.May 19, 2024"
Dude, TOTALLY uncalled for putting butker in that category with everyone else. No joke, pull that crap again and I'm done watching your videos. He didn't "treat it like Fox News". He spoke at a conservative Roman catholic college and conveyed a belief that they themselves teach and was simply encouraging those women who had chosen to attend that college, and likely believed the same thing (notice they were applauding him), to continue in their belief despite what others would say otherwise. It's just a bunch of ironically intolerant whiners that threw a toddler fit. If you don't want to hear that view, then don't listen to a speech at a conservative Roman catholic school. Butker did nothing wrong, nothing objectionable, nothing suspect, and nothing worthy of the news. He just minded his own business and those incessant whiners stuck their noses in it. It's not cool for you to pile on.
@user-os6ps1ls3s yeah it is. I've known tons of Roman Catholics and have 2 degrees in religious studies. It's a very common belief in Roman catholic circles that take their faith seriously. Of course there's plenty of people like biden and other politicians that claim a religion, but it's in name only. But they aren't in that group of "conservative Roman Catholics" which that college is part of. "Conservative" not meaning political, but meaning they take seriously what their faith historically believes rather than going with whatever the current trend is.
@@jml5100 1: Biden is a true catholic he goes to mass every Sunday 2: I personally know many staunch Catholics who volunteer at church and go to every Sunday mass who were disgusted but was buttker said so buttker is not speaking for mainline Catholicism and speaking for a branch that should never have existed
@@jml5100 1: Biden is a catholic and goes to mass every sundayvsobdojt say he’s name only 2: Most Catholics do not agree with what butker said and it’s a shame that ppl defend that even when he’s clearly wrong. Just bc he’s a conservative catholic doesn’t exempt him from reason
Oh the horror. A Catholic gave a speech promoting Catholic values, at a Catholic University; and if it couldn't get any worse encouraged men to be masculine, and dared to suggest that the women at the graduation might find fulfillment in family over a career. Somebody get the safe space ready, I'm about to lose it 😂
Sorry man, was good except the complaint about Butker. Isn't he their top scorer? If anything I'm just shocked Travis isn't making himself more of a nuance over the off season. Guess Taylor cracked the whip.
He went on a sexist mommy issue ridden rant, watering down the accomplishments of women that just graduated college. He’s a pretyy sad excuse of a human
That would be...insane? He obviously is inline with her personality, and she (objectively) ain't hard to look at... She's not even as 'political' as people make it out...she encourages people to...vote. Just vote. Which we all should...for somebody. (Even though our choices all suck...) I'm not a fan of any of her music, and don't really 'get' her celebrity (I'm definitely not her target demo...), but... Why Kelce would break up with her? I don't get it...
@@cynicallydepressed1if he sucked he wouldn't be in the league. He's a really good kicker, and he did nothing wrong at all. Guy told the truth and idiots loose thier minds. At a Catholic college no less.
