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WHY changing the front shock on a VSETT 10+ makes sense! how and review of a evaform A5rr1 

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In today's episode I'm hoping to increase your understanding of the role of suspension and what improvements to expect from doing so.
discussion over how it works, followed by a how to and ride review.
Should you wish to do i list the tools required :
Small cross head and flat head screwdrivers.
3,4,5mm allen/hex keys
19mm and 21mm socket
Ratchett
Soft face hammer
High pressure shock pump
rags

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@murraykirk5903
@murraykirk5903 2 года назад
Hello, many thanks for producing this video. I used it as a step by step guide to fit on my 10+. Took a couple of hours taking it easy. I can confirm the ride quality afterwards is a transformation - at speed the front wheel used to start bouncing, now it is smooth and steady as you like.
@crypttion808
@crypttion808 2 года назад
👍🏿 Nice alternative for a smoother ride! 🙂 Thank you for the video!
@escootermodificationguides2149
@escootermodificationguides2149 2 года назад
You bet! its like riding a different machine now
@peterburt2905
@peterburt2905 2 года назад
Thanks for the review. Great to see the McLaren livery looking so good. Here in Bruce's home country, his name is all but forgotten. Great tip at the end too. That's the kind of thing that can quite frustrating after you complete the rebuild only to find that you can't adjust something. 16:50 100% agree. A near silent scooter flashing by at 30kph gives pedestrians a hell of a fright. Doesn't do our cause any good at all. It's bad enough overtaking cars when you're doing 50 something kph in the cycle lane haha. I admit to a childish delight seeing the surprise on car passengers faces as you cruise past their window on a frickin' scooter!
@escootermodificationguides2149
@escootermodificationguides2149 2 года назад
I'm such a massive McLaren fan! That's really cool to know your hometown is Bruce's too. So glad you enjoyed the vid, its comment's such as these that make me really enjoy making them. Getting a Escoots community going where we share info, aid safety tips and consistantly prove that in the right hands these are a excellent means of personal transport.
@mickpurcell272
@mickpurcell272 2 года назад
Great work looks mint 👍
@michaelosullivan4112
@michaelosullivan4112 2 года назад
Nice looking scooter as I'm thinking of ordering one of these in few weeks time just waiting on more coin to be saved before go buying with all extra accessories then part from that be sickest ride looking forward on collections
@cgiacca
@cgiacca 2 года назад
I bought an EXA Form 291r shock (1250lbs) as I had seen some reports of the EXA K-A5 shocks failing due to poor seals and I wanted the guarantee that if the shock failed I'd still have the spring to support the front end. I chose 1250lbs as the site recommended a 1000lbs spring for my combined weight with the scooter, but in the end the front is still bottoming out when riding over kerbs or large bumps. The front mudguard is contacting the bottom of the steerer and making a loud knocking sound. I weight 75Kg + the 36Kg of the VSETT 10+. Rather than try my luck at the next spring setting of 1500lbs I've decided to order the K-A5 RR1 shock due to its adjustability. It should arrive next week. Fingers crossed I have better luck this time :)
@escootermodificationguides2149
@escootermodificationguides2149 2 года назад
I really like my shock, i'm running close to 200psi on mine and i weigh a 105kg, so you will have plenty of spare capacity pressure wise. good luck with the install and dont forget to pump up the bottom (NP)first.
@Ransomeware1
@Ransomeware1 8 месяцев назад
For those that don’t know about pressure for these air shocks, you’ll need to find your comfort spot in air. He is a 200lbs rider so you could use those settings for air pressure then dialing them back to find your ride comfort. I’m a lightweight rider about 140lbs and I have my settings set at 130 PSI main & 65 negative psi. To simplify this, MP (main pressure) should always be higher then NP (negative pressure) and it’s typically got to be about half of the main pressure (MP) . There is no perfect setting but depending on your weight you’ll need to start higher or lower to find your ride comfort.
@koreanqpatriot4595
@koreanqpatriot4595 2 года назад
First off, Incredible video! So do you recommend a steering damper if I intend to go high speeds?
@keithgrey
@keithgrey 2 года назад
Cant find where you made recommendations for Air Pressure Settings on the 2 shock bladders
@Televisiontechnology
@Televisiontechnology 2 года назад
That paint job is great.
@escootermodificationguides2149
@escootermodificationguides2149 2 года назад
thank you
@adambarczi6305
@adambarczi6305 Год назад
Great video. Juts one question: Is there a version without the background music? I cannot really hear what you say from the music. Many thanks
@GeeboysProductions
@GeeboysProductions 9 месяцев назад
You mentioned you raised your mud guard on the front. Do you have a video or can you explain how you did this? Thanks!
@marcniece696
@marcniece696 2 года назад
Installed the A5RR on my 8X front and rear... amazing difference had to use the 125mm modle loose a little travel. but wow no more blury vision. instaled the same way, and then realized, YOU CAN ROTATE THE SHOCK SO THE THE BOTTOM {NP} POINTS THE OTHER WAY, And there is room to connect your pump.
@koreanqpatriot4595
@koreanqpatriot4595 2 года назад
My A5RR1 on my 10+ gets stuck and not able to move freely like Alan's, who seem to have raised up that area somehow. I'm brand new to this, so I haven't delve into that yet. So the stuckness caused a dent and paint damage which led to my rotors being bent, and I ended up replacing to stock. Did yours fit and was able to move freely?
@88dmc39
@88dmc39 Год назад
Do you just rotate the entire assembly?
@88dmc39
@88dmc39 Год назад
Do you just rotate the entire assembly?
@sohaibalmahagri589
@sohaibalmahagri589 2 года назад
I always leeb forward at high speed to put weight on grönt wheel to prevent wobble I might need to change the front suspension If it considerably changes the feel or at least remove the wobble completely if its going to be expensive.
@michaelosullivan4112
@michaelosullivan4112 Год назад
Can you try fitted a vsett front bar to put on vsett 10+ be looking bad ass setup to ride if can try make it happened if it's possible and God blessed you to stay safe keep what you love doing most cheers
@rofael123
@rofael123 2 года назад
Hi sir, i found the modell u have on aliexpress but the 125mm has a 20mm stroke is that okey or it must be 15mm stroke, im really a noob at this kinda stuff
@DJBIGFOOT5STARZ
@DJBIGFOOT5STARZ 2 года назад
Hey ! I was wondering if I can install four of those on my Apollo Phantom. What do you think ?
@DarkFTP
@DarkFTP 5 месяцев назад
Hi! Thanks for videos. I am waiting for the delivery of my vsett10. Do you think it is possible to put a 150 mm airshock absorber in front?
@LectricBee2.0
@LectricBee2.0 Год назад
Would you recommend also changing the back as well?
@leebradford770
@leebradford770 Год назад
sorry silly question. Did you get the 125mm version of this shock? Just wondering because there are a whole range of sizes available and you did talk about that a little and it has a 20mm stroke. Just making sure before I order one. Thanks
@mightycromm6299
@mightycromm6299 2 года назад
Hi is this the one I'm looking for thanks Scott
@mightycromm6299
@mightycromm6299 2 года назад
Sorry do you have a link for the shock thanks Scott
@sebastianeyeless3835
@sebastianeyeless3835 Год назад
Hi how are u? nice video....can u say me What damper did you install? the 125mm or the 150mm?
@escoot_nyc1651
@escoot_nyc1651 2 года назад
Great videos bro. What do you think of the Exa form 291r adjustable suspension and the Dnm AO-6 air suspension compared to the A5rr1?
@escootermodificationguides2149
@escootermodificationguides2149 2 года назад
Hey escoot_NYC, loving your vids too! From the outset the evaform shock 291r relies on the coil spring for compression over a compression of the gas. now coil springs by its nature has a linier compression rate where as a compressed gas ramps up the further along the stroke. where the evaform will exceed the DNM A0-6 is the fact you can control the speed it rebounds. It really is like your car spring setup with a spring and damper in a combined strut. The gas only strut will also weigh a lot less. This is ideal if your wanting to make the scooter easier to carry. also less weight will make it easier for the scoots to accelerate (ever so slightly of course). my pick i needed rebound control, lightweight and progressive shock absorbtion. HTH
@escoot_nyc1651
@escoot_nyc1651 2 года назад
@@escootermodificationguides2149 Wow.. You know your stuff man. You'll have thousands of subs in no time. Thanks for the info, I think I will be going with the a5rr1 as I also am looking for rebound control.
@milordas
@milordas 2 года назад
9:41 is suspension air intake (bottom) should be facing wheel? could be difficut to reach after mountin wheel
@crypttion808
@crypttion808 2 года назад
Hey Alan? 🙂 Got your reply and found it on AliExpress. Thank you for the prompt reply. One other question, though. This spring is listed as a "rear spring". Not that it matters too much, with respect, it's the right size, and you show that it works and makes a big difference. Niiiccceee. Unique color variation of your scooter too. But would changing the rear shock on the Vsett also do it any better, or worse? And if better, what kind, what size and what specs would you suggest? The same size? Some different brand? And if a different brand, at what specifications, size wise? I appreciate the your time, help, and advice. My VSETT 10+ is still in the box, haven't even opened it yet. I'm waiting on some accessories from Carbon Revo to come in from Singapore as of now. I'm going to order the part (shock) for sure. I just want to get all my parts and accessories together and mod my scooter at one point in time as much as possible, because I will be taking the scooter, accessories, and mods to install over to a friends place to work on, as he has a very good set up area than I do, all the tools, and more mechanically inclined than I am, but not many days or time open on his schedule to do so in order to help me. I will wait for your reply. 👍🏿 Thank you again. Very much appreciated.
@escootermodificationguides2149
@escootermodificationguides2149 2 года назад
Awesome glad you've got it sorted, yep that's rear for a bike as a MTB would have forks out front. Sounds like your scoots is going to epic! although i cant believe you ain't got it out of the box and given it some already!! as for rear shock i was toying with doing that next month. until I've looked at all the options I'm not in a position to advise. but as long as the length is right, the stroke is the same and the eyelet are the same your choice is between- dnm, rockshox and fox.
@crypttion808
@crypttion808 2 года назад
@@escootermodificationguides2149 Thanks, Alan! I will wait and see what you and others may do in regards to the rear shock! As I am not as mechanically inclined and somewhat new to this awesome EV genre of bad ass scooters! As for my scooter still being in the box? It's torture to look at for sure! 🤢 But in a two bedroom apartment with two other roommates, it's a "no can do" for now! Still waiting on the shock from AliExpress anyways! I do know myself well enough to know that if I dare to peek into that box and have one look at that 28.0A beast, that I will not stop there! There would be scooter parts, battery chargers, cables and Styrofoam everywhere let alone the scooter itself, as I am not prepared to store it out back as of yet. Looking for a good cover on Amazon as of now! Thank you Alan, for your help and advice and for showing your great build on your podcast! 👍 Looking forward to more from your channel! 👍
@FbigboyS
@FbigboyS 2 года назад
Nice scooter 👌
@escootermodificationguides2149
@escootermodificationguides2149 2 года назад
I love it, such a cool means of transport. thanks for the kind comment.
@JustNel
@JustNel 2 года назад
How did you change the color.. i hate the yellow on vsett was thinking of painting when I purchase
@freddierickfortades4835
@freddierickfortades4835 9 месяцев назад
Hi, what is the screw size for the mudguard
@blueberry6080
@blueberry6080 2 месяца назад
Hello, after you have loosened all the screws, use the hammer, but only minimally. then you simply pull off the right side (in the video). Do you have a hint for me? It doesn't work for me. I've already tried a few things, it just gets stuck and can't be loosened with one hand like you did.
@frankstocker5475
@frankstocker5475 Месяц назад
Hello can you tell me what tyres you have on the scooter, I'm looking to replace mine. Thanks.
@mattsandiego7088
@mattsandiego7088 2 года назад
Hey Alan. I noticed you do a lot of your riding off-road. Are you planning on a tire upgrade soon? If so, what tires are you looking at? Cheers!
@escootermodificationguides2149
@escootermodificationguides2149 2 года назад
Hi Matt, Yes and yes i have bought some budget ones for the sake of trying out. How fast is no longer the problem its down to digging in and getting traction. IF they can do that and not be terribly out of balance its a win.
@koreanqpatriot4595
@koreanqpatriot4595 2 года назад
What do you use to hold the scooter up?
@CristianoVoodooNet
@CristianoVoodooNet 11 месяцев назад
I have 6 pcs Rockshox Monarch RL 165mm but if I put this and lower the pressure and adjust the reboun can I get a better result?! instead of a measly 125mm🙄
@flogette
@flogette 2 года назад
Is that custom paint? I thought the vsett 10 only came in yellow.
@abundantharmony
@abundantharmony 2 года назад
What if I change both the front and rear?
@brotherlyelectric3969
@brotherlyelectric3969 2 года назад
Do your Vsett sit lowing in the front
@abundantharmony
@abundantharmony Год назад
What kind of tire is that as well?
@RESISTAGE
@RESISTAGE 2 года назад
125mm or 150mm? I'm confused. now... also what size do I put on the back? Ali links would be helpful. very nice video. thanks.
@milordas
@milordas 2 года назад
125 front, 165 back
@geoffsharp2436
@geoffsharp2436 Год назад
@@milordas I see some are installing the 150mm version on the front with good results...UPDATE I bought the 150mm version and for me it was totally useless...far too much travel and is dangerous, 125mm version on the way.
@crypttion808
@crypttion808 2 года назад
Also? Where do you purchase it? Can you provide a link, please? Thank you.
@escootermodificationguides2149
@escootermodificationguides2149 2 года назад
its a long one..... but i found it on aliexpress www.aliexpress.com/item/32868251453.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.71dc2d07SISUAr&algo_pvid=545062fa-a522-4d16-a5a0-3ec9816a86b6&algo_exp_id=545062fa-a522-4d16-a5a0-3ec9816a86b6-31&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000021681615920%22%7D
@crypttion2061
@crypttion2061 2 года назад
@@escootermodificationguides2149 👍 Thanks again!
@crypttion808
@crypttion808 2 года назад
@@escootermodificationguides2149 Hey Alan? 🙂 Got your reply and found it on AliExpress. Thank you for the prompt reply. One other question, though. This spring is listed as a "rear spring". Not that it matters too much, with respect, it's the right size, and you show that it works and makes a big difference. Niiiccceee. Unique color variation of your scooter too. But would changing the rear shock on the Vsett also do it any better, or worse? And if better, what kind, what size and what specs would you suggest? The same size? Some different brand? And if a different brand, at what specifications, size wise? I appreciate the your time, help, and advice. My VSETT 10+ is still in the box, haven't even opened it yet. I'm waiting on some accessories from Carbon Revo to come in from Singapore as of now. I'm going to order the part (shock) for sure. I just want to get all my parts and accessories together and mod my scooter at one point in time as much as possible, because I will be taking the scooter, accessories, and mods to install over to a friends place to work on, as he has a very good set up area than I do, all the tools, and more mechanically inclined than I am, but not many days or time open on his schedule to do so in order to help me. I will wait for your reply. 👍🏿 Thank you again. Very much appreciated.
@RESISTAGE
@RESISTAGE 2 года назад
the link gets leads to 150mm A5RE NOT A5RR 125mm!
@Sly_Fella
@Sly_Fella 2 года назад
Can these springs/dampers be installed on the VSETT 9/9+?
@milordas
@milordas 2 года назад
no
@Sly_Fella
@Sly_Fella 2 года назад
@@milordas okay
@rowess1
@rowess1 2 года назад
Hi, how much do you weigh and how much PSI do you inflate the MP / NP in the front Damper?
@escootermodificationguides2149
@escootermodificationguides2149 2 года назад
105kg/230lb. 190mp/120np if my memory serves me right. HTH
@rowess1
@rowess1 2 года назад
@@escootermodificationguides2149 Thanks for the advice, at least I'll know where to start ☺
@oswaldpinzon5086
@oswaldpinzon5086 Год назад
friend. Front suspension can be adjusted. A5 RR1 150mm?? BEST REGARDS
@geoffsharp2436
@geoffsharp2436 Год назад
The 150mm version has too much travel and can only be used with low pressure.
@CristianoVoodooNet
@CristianoVoodooNet 11 месяцев назад
@@geoffsharp2436I have 6 pcs Rockshox Monarch RL 165mm but if I put this and lower the pressure and adjust the reboun can I get a better result?! instead of a measly 125mm
@cristianrguerio296
@cristianrguerio296 2 года назад
Donde pudo compraralo
@escoot_nyc1651
@escoot_nyc1651 2 года назад
Hey how's the suspension holding up? I'm really getting tired of the stock suspension.
@escootermodificationguides2149
@escootermodificationguides2149 2 года назад
really well mate, loving it and havnt had to recharge it either.
@_nom_
@_nom_ 2 года назад
@@escootermodificationguides2149 Is it worth upgrading the rear too?
@schlooonginator1227
@schlooonginator1227 Год назад
I got the same shocks for my Blade X, huge upgrade. I come from mountain bike world and admittedly even these are elcheapo vs the $500 shocks on my bike but the scooter isnt needing that kind of performance/ its not going on crazy trails. At first the lack of rebound dampening concerned me but having the negative air does provide effective dampening by progressively slowing the rebound by pushing back with air pressure, slowing the speed at top out preventing the bounce effect so its really good at staying glued to the tarmac. I personally think taking these things on real mounbtain bike trails or getting air is way beyond the design intent of these things. Your asking to break the thing or you.
@ObieJrBafour
@ObieJrBafour Год назад
I just got my Blade X for a month now and i wanted something worth my money other pmt tires. i do more pavement princess routes, i used to ride a cbr600rr
@Macca-jv9vp
@Macca-jv9vp Год назад
My air shock on the front just burst at 40mph, Scary
@byronw3112
@byronw3112 Месяц назад
did it cause a crash? What did you replace it with?
@Jameshhl
@Jameshhl 2 года назад
That's a split rim? guess no way to go tubeless tire setup.....
@stalin_rider_7776
@stalin_rider_7776 2 года назад
Perdón
@CristianoVoodooNet
@CristianoVoodooNet 11 месяцев назад
it possibile mount 165mm front?
@almusic4276
@almusic4276 11 месяцев назад
Who the fook puts music when he talks in his video
@CristianoVoodooNet
@CristianoVoodooNet 11 месяцев назад
absurd to design such an expensive scooter with a ridiculous 125mm suspension !! I keep my blade with 165mm suspension
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