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Why Chicago Secretly Razed A Major Airport 

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Video Chapters:
0:00 The Mystery of Meigs Field Airport
0:41 How Meigs Field Airport Came To Be
3:20 Chicago Opens Meigs Field Airport
6:21 Mayor Daley Tries To Shut It DOWN
7:55 Daley's OVERNIGHT Destruction of Meigs Field Airport
10:00 Meigs Field Airport Today
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@giewhcs
@giewhcs Месяц назад
The air traffic controllers continued to report for work and receive a paycheck from the FAA for a few years, as the airport’s closing was not in their contract.
@KurtFlunkn
@KurtFlunkn Месяц назад
If I recall correctly, Meigs had a non-federal control tower and the ATC folks actually worked for the park district. But it wouldn't surprise me if they were kept on the payroll for years.
@Pwnulolumad
@Pwnulolumad Месяц назад
If that is true that is truly amazing ! I hope they got to pursue other ambitions or second careers
@pickles3128
@pickles3128 Месяц назад
Were they still responsible for the same airspace as before? About half of the flights over my city's airport just use it as a waypoint, not actually landing unless there's an emergency.
@iwantcrawfish6110
@iwantcrawfish6110 Месяц назад
good
@robertmonaghan5420
@robertmonaghan5420 Месяц назад
Really? Interesting...
@dougcook5167
@dougcook5167 Месяц назад
The history of Meigs field and Mayor Daley destroying it in the middle of the night is soooooo Chicago.
@stickynorth
@stickynorth Месяц назад
My thoughts exactly. Only in Chicago...
@prettypuff1
@prettypuff1 Месяц назад
it’s right on brand. This happened when Chicago was on its way to peak corruption
@nunyabidness3075
@nunyabidness3075 Месяц назад
Exactly, it was a dirt move by a dirt politician in what will continue to be a dirt metropolis until they realize what they’ve all done.
@billsmith5993
@billsmith5993 Месяц назад
Also the fact that the new department of airports head delayed her start date until the day after Miggs closed is so Chicago.
@prettypuff1
@prettypuff1 Месяц назад
@@billsmith5993 Absolute Facts
@CrashTestPilot
@CrashTestPilot Месяц назад
Anything you need to do in secret in the middle of the night, is almost 100% of the time, something you shouldn't be doing.
@kgb4187
@kgb4187 Месяц назад
My mom always said nothing good happens after midnight
@datboib3432
@datboib3432 Месяц назад
Theres 0 benefit to an undersized airport
@carlosrivas1629
@carlosrivas1629 Месяц назад
DUDE, i dont care, this island is so cool without a long strip on it. it looks so much better. airport can be buiilt elsewhere but the way they did it is messed up.
@reddwarfer999
@reddwarfer999 Месяц назад
Especially feeding Gremlins. Don't do it. Really.
@creativemindplay
@creativemindplay Месяц назад
​@@kgb4187idk which is more ridiculous - her telling you that or you repeating it here
@smalltime0
@smalltime0 Месяц назад
The biggest change as a result of this, is that MS Flight Simulator no longer starts at Meigs Field
@rvnmedic1968
@rvnmedic1968 Месяц назад
I've crashed many pipers at Meigs on my MS FS back in the 90s! Get set up for approach and then the lag period screwed it up and when I tried to correct it, it overeacted. I don't know if this big sign in Chicago Union Terminal is still there, but it had a picture of Meigs and a caption that over a million planes crashed there (with MS FS mentioned, of course). Ah, sweet memories!
@AvussonSC
@AvussonSC Месяц назад
Flightsim 2020 actually brought the airport back as a bit of nostalgia so we can fly there again.
@Vekurus
@Vekurus Месяц назад
I took off and landed many a Cessna 172s (?? Don't recall which model) there. Played Sim II on an IBM PC Jr!
@crashercarlton
@crashercarlton Месяц назад
No kidding I had flight simulator 2000 I think. These were the comments I was looking for. I had more fun turning the wind to max and watching it blow the Cessnas away lol
@smalltime0
@smalltime0 Месяц назад
@@AvussonSC FSX had it in their anniversary update too. But for both maps, the airport had already been destroyed. The last version with a 'canonical' inclusion is Flight Sim 2004...
@cs83
@cs83 Месяц назад
I'll forever remember Meigs as the default airport in Microsoft Flight Simulator
@Kae6502
@Kae6502 Месяц назад
And SubLogic's Flight Simulator before that. I crashed many simulated aircraft at Meigs learning to fly!
@doubledrats235
@doubledrats235 Месяц назад
⁠@@Kae6502I began crashing there on my Commodore 64 using the Sub Logic Flight Simulator.
@mobilespeed
@mobilespeed Месяц назад
It was featured in the Microsoft Midtown Madness too!
@navinstrument8353
@navinstrument8353 Месяц назад
Me too. I was 6th grade when flying flight sim 2.
@TheRange7
@TheRange7 Месяц назад
Me too, that was a blast. I tried landing the 747 there many times on Simulator. LOL
@ROGER2095
@ROGER2095 Месяц назад
One interesting little piece of Meigs' history: There is a big Boeing 727 on display at the Museum of Science and Industry, and to get it there, they landed it at Meigs Field and then put it on a barge to float it closer to the Museum. It's probably the biggest aircraft to ever use Miegs Field.
@BobWiersema
@BobWiersema Месяц назад
There's a video of that somewhere on youtube. The 747 was totally gutted for weight and the pilot flew past sever times to run the fuel down as low as possible.
@TheRange7
@TheRange7 Месяц назад
Yep, I watched it land...amazing job by the pilots
@bratcafe5632
@bratcafe5632 Месяц назад
Used to love to fly mt Piper into Meigs for dinner and blues in downtown Chicago. Closed in secret....illegally, in the middle of the night. Haven't been to Chicago since.
@moveupnotdown
@moveupnotdown Месяц назад
I'm glad they closed it. I remember traffic was getting worse, it was becoming louder.
@jimnite4919
@jimnite4919 Месяц назад
Last time in 1995 I visually referenced N7611W PA 28 180. My Father once owned her and I never forgot the tail number. AND I also saw the B 727 land there .
@littlewillie65
@littlewillie65 Месяц назад
I had a friend who was a private pilot back then. He said A LOT of local pilots used the trip to Meigs field as part of their qualifications - big city airport - FAA controlled airspace - but still relatively easy for a novice pilot to make their way to, and land. O'Hare and Midway were (and are) too busy for a learner to deal with. Also, Daley waited until there was finally a Chicago Democrat in the Governor's mansion before doing it. He was scared to anger a Republican governor, and had to resort to a cowardly act to destroy it. I'd be willing to believe there was a large some of money involved as well...
@andreww2098
@andreww2098 Месяц назад
according to the FAA a million dollars
@fortress1133
@fortress1133 Месяц назад
I was going to say this but you beat me to it. It was used by ALL private planes to avoid the traffic at O'Hare and Midway.
@kentfrederick8929
@kentfrederick8929 Месяц назад
Meigs also kept tabs on general aviation traffic flying along the lakefront. Once, I flew with a friend from the southwest suburbs to Waukegan. Midway Tower guided us out to the lakefront. Meigs Tower guided us from 55th St and the Lake to roughly the Hancock Building.
@natehill8069
@natehill8069 Месяц назад
@@fortress1133 Including some wealthy people with jets who now spend that money someplace else.
@c182SkylaneRG
@c182SkylaneRG Месяц назад
@@fortress1133 Not only did it allow small planes to stay clear of the big ones for their own sake, but mixing traffic that lands at 50 knots with traffic that lands at 150 knots is a recipe for traffic jams. Small airports like that are called "reliever" airports because they relieve some of the congestion at the major airline hubs. Now, in order for me to fly my Cessna to Chicago, I would have to land at either O'Hare or Midway, and would take the landing slot of five or six airliners due to the speed difference and wake turbulence requirements.
@rbauer961
@rbauer961 Месяц назад
Destroying a runway without notice is incredibly reckless in terms of air safety. There would be flight plans filed using it as an alternate and emergency aircraft could have attempted to use it.
@edwardloomis887
@edwardloomis887 Месяц назад
It reminds me of a Sean Connery line in "The Untouchables." 'If he pulls a knife, you pull a gun. If he sends one of your's to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's The Chicago Way.'
@CaptRR
@CaptRR Месяц назад
As I recall their was a doctors convention going on, and the planes got stuck their until they got permission to take off on the taxi-way from the faa.
@frankchan4272
@frankchan4272 Месяц назад
The planes were still on field so the planes had no way to go anywhere. I’m surprised that FAA & other transportation agencies didn’t get involved.
@stephenp448
@stephenp448 Месяц назад
@@frankchan4272 they did.
@brettany_renee_blatchley
@brettany_renee_blatchley Месяц назад
@stephenp448 , the FAA issued "slap-on-the-wrist" fines as I recall.
@flashcar60
@flashcar60 Месяц назад
As a pilot who only had the opportunity to land there only one time, I'm still fuming. Meigs was the most perfectly located General Aviation airport within a major city.
@mikeL5183
@mikeL5183 Месяц назад
This is something that I think is glossed over in all of this. While Midway probably now handles most or all of the GA traffic going to Chicago, it's probably not optimal. I'm not a pilot, but I sure wouldn't attempt going to ORD in a GA aircraft unless my passenger held a gun to my head or I had an in-flight emergency and it was the closest airfield. Meigs served a purpose, Daly ignored that...
@RATsnak3
@RATsnak3 Месяц назад
L
@taxirob2248
@taxirob2248 Месяц назад
what about Burke?
@brj_han
@brj_han Месяц назад
@@mikeL5183GA is pretty much handled in Gary's airport in Indiana. I doubt *any* small craft using Midway or O'Hare....
@nunyabidness3075
@nunyabidness3075 Месяц назад
@@brj_hanWhich means for so many people visiting it’s just better to drive which wastes a lot of time and fuel. Also, like most every big city, the inhabitants can no longer afford aviation as a mode of transport. Also, the time needed to take lessons makes them impractical for those who can afford it. The skies now belong to the very rich and those who love to fly so much they spend all their money and/or time to do it.
@colleenuchiyama4916
@colleenuchiyama4916 Месяц назад
I remember when the Tuskegee Airmen would take kids up in planes from Meigs field. My daughter was too young to go, and by the time she was old enough to, Meigs was no more. Broke my heart.
@jeffa847
@jeffa847 Месяц назад
Tuskegee Airmen? Was there a group that flew under the Tuskegee name after the original WW2 airmen?
@politicallyerect6086
@politicallyerect6086 21 день назад
⁠@@jeffa847there were a couple survivors still alive and making the rounds at airshows. I have a picture of me with a Tuskegee airman in front of his P51 at Oshkosh in 2008. Nicest guy you’ll ever meet.
@walkthedogs240
@walkthedogs240 Месяц назад
Its closing should have been determined by public referendum, a concrete plan for its renovation and a bond issue to pay for it not the petulance of a power-hungry mayor. From what i can see, the park looks like an abandoned eyesore with little patronage other than a concert once in a while. In other words, Daley probably knew he would lose.
@TheRange7
@TheRange7 Месяц назад
Daley did things his way and guess what, Chicago thrived under his leadership. Best mayor in Chicago history.
@CargoElf
@CargoElf Месяц назад
The park is actually pretty nice. I've been snow shoeing there and it was nice an peaceful. That said, it really should have been a public referendum
@TheRange7
@TheRange7 Месяц назад
@@CargoElf Yeah, I agree, but we all know how things are done in our Windy City. LOL< that's kinda why I still love it more than any other major city in the world. Cheers
@RealisticTimberwolvesFan
@RealisticTimberwolvesFan 15 дней назад
@@walkthedogs240 The park is white nice and the concert venue is one of the best you’ll find in the county. It’s a nature preserve as well.
@JohnGalanek
@JohnGalanek 11 дней назад
The park is anything but an eyesore, it’s an awesome concert venue and a gorgeous nature preserve and bike trail right in the middle of the city. Don’t listen to another hot take from someone who’s never visited Chicago.
@GeekFilter
@GeekFilter Месяц назад
"It's quite difficult to take sides in this dispute." I don't think it is! Even if closing the airport was a good thing decades later the way it was accomplished was reckless and self-centered. The stereotype of the corrupt Chicago politician didn't come from nowhere!
@Irish_For_Life1842
@Irish_For_Life1842 Месяц назад
The same is true in several cities. Detroit, Philly, LA and NYC to name just a few with horrible reputations. NYC had Tammany Hall. The more things change the more they don't as people are still involved.
@mrpenn4613
@mrpenn4613 Месяц назад
Somebody in Los Angeles is wishing they had the power to pull a Dick Daley on the Santa Monica Airport, as it stands SMO is scheduled to close in 2028.
@miniaturefarmer464
@miniaturefarmer464 Месяц назад
He was a mentally challenged individual. Just listen to his speeches. He only got in on his father's coat tails.
@kosjeyr
@kosjeyr Месяц назад
Being 13 when that happened and living in Aurora, Illinois at the time, all I can say is that a lot of people were pissed off!
@user-ko2wx5xv1f
@user-ko2wx5xv1f Месяц назад
As a resident of California I have come to know that almost nothing is off the table when it comes to political leveraged moves.😮
@irenes3470
@irenes3470 Месяц назад
There are some New Jersians that would agree with you
@stickynorth
@stickynorth Месяц назад
@@irenes3470 Albertans too! The sunniest place in Canada bans solar power? But of course!
@deletdis6173
@deletdis6173 Месяц назад
I'd say what all those places have in common, but RU-vid will ban me if I do.
@smallmouthguy2264
@smallmouthguy2264 Месяц назад
Especially h In Chiraq
@RaptorFromWeegee
@RaptorFromWeegee Месяц назад
Illinois and California represent failures in democracy
@emfraza7953
@emfraza7953 Месяц назад
Toronto's Billy Bishop Airport has been modernized and is awesome, especially for those working in the finance industry. Somehow it thrives on the islands next to downtown, sharing space with parkland, and few noise complaints due to a strict daytime window of operations. Chicago could and should have followed suit.
@stephenolan5539
@stephenolan5539 Месяц назад
On the day Porter Airlines started a protester was crowing that it was the first day and already the planes were behind schedule. The plane had taken off but it was a new quieter type and the protesters didn't notice.
@jtsholtod.79
@jtsholtod.79 Месяц назад
Toronto Island residents still complain about noise and traffic, and it's hardly without its critics. The Q400 will eventually need replacing, and who knows the future of passenger turboprops. I just hope Porter doesn't go full-in on jets that aren't permitted at Billy Bishop. I've flown through there since the early 80s and Air Canada won't continue going there if there isn't competition, as they've done several times in the past.
@stickynorth
@stickynorth Месяц назад
@@jtsholtod.79 I hope the runway is extended and trans-atlantic flights to London City using A220 are FINALLY offered as per the vision of the whole program... A jet capable of trans-atlantic flights but also agile enough to take off and land on 5000' runways... Plus it's even quieter than the Q400 so should WANT them instead of Q400's...
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis
@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis Месяц назад
I won’t rule out a new airport in the vicinity, although would probably be best as a federal and non-profit facility independent of the city.
@iamcondescending
@iamcondescending Месяц назад
They need to expand the runway at Billy Bishop to land jets if that airport is going to survive much longer. Problem is the rich NIMBYs that park their yachts in that harbor won't allow it, because the flight path would exclude large ships getting in there.
@xray606
@xray606 Месяц назад
ONE guy decides he doesn't want something... Tears it down in the middle of the night. The party of democracy strikes again. I remember the field as a kid. Daley was a complete d-bag.
@prettypuff1
@prettypuff1 Месяц назад
Well now your first mistake was assuming democracy. After Daley was elected in 1989 I don’t remember another mayoral election until 2010s when he retired.
@aspensulphate
@aspensulphate Месяц назад
@@prettypuff1 I'm certain the term "democracy" was used sarcastically. Recent leadership seems bent on making the Daley Dynasty a shining legacy.
@prettypuff1
@prettypuff1 Месяц назад
@@aspensulphate I know I was being sarcastic too
@DeaPeaJay
@DeaPeaJay Месяц назад
Vote for stupid people and win stupid prizes.
@milspecmike8440
@milspecmike8440 29 дней назад
Democrats and Chicago type Democrats in general never believe the plebs should make any decisions, they are better than you, know more than you, and they will have their way. If they need to gaslight you into agreeing with them, they have zero moral apprehension in doing so. That said, I saw several concerns at that venue and it is a gorgeous place to enjoy a concert but I’m sure the airport was much more helpful to the city than that, but the wealthy who live along the lakefront got their way.
@arthurklose2300
@arthurklose2300 Месяц назад
I remember this well. My parents used to live a block from the lake, and I would visit frequently. It was there one visit and gone the next.
@hertzair1186
@hertzair1186 Месяц назад
This was a great violation as it was done totally unilaterally and without FAA oversite
@chadportenga7858
@chadportenga7858 Месяц назад
Since it was Daley's decision, he should have spent time in Federal prison for breaking the FAA agreements.
@lnchgj
@lnchgj Месяц назад
The question is, does the economic activity of a park and concert opportunity today, exceed the activity generated by the airport?
@marktoken6052
@marktoken6052 Месяц назад
I'm going to guess no
@opera93
@opera93 Месяц назад
Thanks…interestingly, I wish Chicago still had Meigs Field….Oddly We got to see some dramatic Aviation, etc. ( some 24 years ago We were visiting the, 17 TH Floor (?) of a downtown building , and viewed some tie AIR & Boat Shows , namely: STEALTH Aircraft leaving Meigs , etc. It was interesting to see these Aviation stuff,& how close We are to Canada, etc.
@scotabot7826
@scotabot7826 Месяц назад
Not even a fraction!!!
@aquawoelfly
@aquawoelfly Месяц назад
I remember that day and the utter confusion it caused as many of the people who stored thier planes there were unaware of the plan to destory the runways.
@deannewton3644
@deannewton3644 Месяц назад
To fly into Meigs Field was the only reason I got my Private Pilot's License. Once I was IFR and had enough flight time and courage, it was closed.
@davidjernigan8161
@davidjernigan8161 Месяц назад
Standard corrupt Chicago politician.
@crafting1660
@crafting1660 Месяц назад
Yes. Corruption runs though Illinois
@skutchBlobaum
@skutchBlobaum Месяц назад
Please stop pretending their is any other kind of politician.
@postflight
@postflight Месяц назад
I used to love Chicago (and Meigs Field). Now the town is a sh*thole that I avoid, and despite having one of the most restrictive gun laws in the US, has one of the highest rates of murder. Very sad.
@Retroscoop
@Retroscoop Месяц назад
I can't see who would corrupt a politician to turn a prosperous airfield into a not very appealing nature area. Sorry, that statement makes no sense: the other way around would have, though.
@19MAD95
@19MAD95 Месяц назад
@@postflightcry more
@carlmcgregor2707
@carlmcgregor2707 Месяц назад
If you have to do something in secret, then that is not a good plan.
@aj.j5833
@aj.j5833 Месяц назад
Like small town I used to live in that decided they wanted to cut down a tree everyone loved in middle of night. Then they got angry when we saw to it everyone who was in local government at the time got voted out and everyone worked for them got fired and replaced, including the Sheriff and his three deputies.
@bender7565
@bender7565 Месяц назад
This is one of your few stories I know well, you did a great job.
@gj8683
@gj8683 Месяц назад
When Meigs Field was open, flew by private plane there to visit the Field Museum and the Planetarium, both of which are very close.
@brj_han
@brj_han Месяц назад
As well as the Shedd Aquarium and Soldier Field. Scared the heck of of me the first time a Lear landed there. Not used to jet airplanes at Meigs...
@jlon1066
@jlon1066 Месяц назад
Yes, it was used often by the rich and privileged. Now it serves the regular people of Chicago.
@c182SkylaneRG
@c182SkylaneRG Месяц назад
@@jlon1066 It was a regional airline hub to small area airports. Now it sits unused and abandoned.
@common_c3nts
@common_c3nts Месяц назад
Good ol' Microsoft Flight Simulator 5.0/95/98/2000/2002, Meigs still lives on.
@ismiregalichkochdasjetztso3232
@ismiregalichkochdasjetztso3232 Месяц назад
I remember departing from Meigs back in FS 4.
@RPSchonherr
@RPSchonherr Месяц назад
You forgot to mention it's inclusion as the default airport in Microsoft Flight Sim. It was the flight simmers who made a big part of the noise when it got destroyed.
@HighHolyOne
@HighHolyOne Месяц назад
I used to fly to Detroit International in the late 1970's from Meigs on Ong Airlines. Extremely convenient! Daley should have been forced to pay for destruction of Public Property! He clearly lacked legal authority.
@aspensulphate
@aspensulphate Месяц назад
Had plenty of mob authority tho'
@tonyfletcher2541
@tonyfletcher2541 Месяц назад
I flew in and out of Meigs for years. I miss it, as it was so close to everything. But change is the only constant
@HighHolyOne
@HighHolyOne Месяц назад
Northerly Island was also the location of Chicago's 1933 World's Fair, A Century of Progress. An aunt of mine worked there in her early 20's.
@natehill8069
@natehill8069 Месяц назад
You should have mentioned that the Adler had a very popular webcam at the time which faced the runway. People would watch planes take off all day long on it. Boss Hogg initiated his attack (at midnight on a Sunday - perfect time for public works projects) by having a police car park in front of the Adler shining a spotlight directly on the webcam so it was blinded and you couldnt see what was happening. (tbh I am surprised he was that smart.)
@aspensulphate
@aspensulphate Месяц назад
"Boss Hogg" 😅🤣😂
@craigsphilhower8505
@craigsphilhower8505 Месяц назад
“Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” A quote from 19th century English historian Baron Lord Action from 1887, this is what happens to politicians. Politicians realise this and they know they’ll never be held accountable for their action so they do it not for what is good, but, for what is good for them.
@geraldmckillip5594
@geraldmckillip5594 Месяц назад
It looks like a swamp now ,👍👍👍
@ConcernedPublic
@ConcernedPublic Месяц назад
The most wasteful and environmentally destructive things are often done by the so-called environmentalists.
@superfluity-of-naughtiness777
@superfluity-of-naughtiness777 8 дней назад
Agree...that is at least up till a few weeks ago....for years/decades this was a giant goose poop pen, but lately they are transforming the area...nice prairie area and trails and grassy ( not poopy) area....also you can park for free for 15 minutes right by the airport structure...its actually a nicer place to visit now ( until everyone re discovers this little gem)
@bert_towle
@bert_towle Месяц назад
The island's first use was for the 1933 world's fair, "Century of Progress" which got extended to 18 months. Took more than a decade for the airport to be added.
@adamdurbin6895
@adamdurbin6895 Месяц назад
At least H.H. Holmes was around
@bert_towle
@bert_towle Месяц назад
@@adamdurbin6895 - He was active during Chicago's other world's fair - The Columbian Exposition in 1893.
@rucksack3755
@rucksack3755 17 дней назад
@@bert_towle One key part of history that was not in this video & I haven’t seen mentioned was that during WWII Naval aviator trainees out of NAS Glenview would use the island as a aircraft carrier stand-in for practicing landing & takeoff. This was the second phase of their training before moving on to practicing on an actual carrier. My great uncle was a graduate from the flight school at NAS Glenview in 1943 & was absolutely furious when Daley did this especially because the military history was virtually ignored. Another aspect that has also been ignored was that FEMA had extensive plans for the use of Meigs field in the event of a disaster or Terrorist attack on Chicago.
@bert_towle
@bert_towle 16 дней назад
@@rucksack3755 - There were "training" aircraft carriers in Lake Michigan used by NAS Glenview pilots. There's still a few aircraft in the lake. Among those stationed at Glenview over the years were Butch O'Hare who got an airport named after him, George H.W. Bush and Gerald Ford who got pretty good jobs, and Neil Armstrong who spaced out. The Blue Angels used the base when in town and Glenview got its own little show when they came to town.
@tuvoca825
@tuvoca825 Месяц назад
It takes a child to raze a village. 😂
@WW-hr1hd
@WW-hr1hd Месяц назад
@@MelodyJ_123 (That's what raze means.)
@lowandslow
@lowandslow Месяц назад
Used it at least dozen times back in the day, very handy for GA pilots wanting to get downtown. As with most pilots I was pretty POed about Daly destroying it at the time. Funny thing is though, recreational and corporate flying is dying pretty fast, if they kept it open back then, it still would be looking at closure today because of dwindling use. Then again, the park still isn't used either.
@Chicagomostly
@Chicagomostly Месяц назад
I bike through the park at least once a week from March- October
@route2070
@route2070 Месяц назад
Plenty of concerts are there.
@daewooparts
@daewooparts Месяц назад
Should have been left intact for emergency landings & government use .....Chicago loves to waste 🗑💸 money
@DavidNPS
@DavidNPS Месяц назад
My dad used to fly In/Out of Meigs Field . I thought it seemed like a cool place as a boy.
@joeroad6618
@joeroad6618 Месяц назад
Flew into Meigs field several times, is was quite convenient, it's a bitch to get anywhere from O'Hare.
@thekidfromcleveland3944
@thekidfromcleveland3944 14 дней назад
Blue line is right there my guy
@bobbysenterprises3220
@bobbysenterprises3220 Месяц назад
But the plans were on display It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.
@richardvoogd705
@richardvoogd705 Месяц назад
LOL!
@radomirblazik
@radomirblazik Месяц назад
Nice Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy reference...
@mickeykyrle4240
@mickeykyrle4240 Месяц назад
To be perfectly honest the destruction done was criminal damage whether who owned it or didn't own it. To do it under the cover of night shows corruption as very few airports shut at night and almost certainly had security. That amount of construction traffic on a man made island would've been careless as someone could've got hurt or construction vehicles lost due to blindlessness of 1 individual. The fact that it happened and the city acknowledged it's fines eventually means they knew it was an illegal act and that the system was protecting a corrupt individual. A simple conversation of can a portion of the area be converted into a nature area and as the airport closes more can be done as and when safely can be done. I'm sure the airport was a noisy place and it affected residents, but the construction vehicles would've made more noise over night than the airport ever created. That noise must have been deafening and for construction workers to work without lighting and do a precise job is an amazing feat to say the least. All I heard and saw was a mindless individual just 1 individual being a spoilt little individual and knew he wasn't getting his own way and decided to throw his toys out the pram. There's no argument for it there's no side to pick other than the side of lawful tenure and contractual agreements. All that individual did was destroy an economic system which helped the rest of the economic systems in Chicago to thrive and survive. Any company or business that failed after that incident is purely down to 1 individual that wanted what he wanted and said screw it to the rest of the people. It's undemocratic and illegal to do what he did, it was criminal what happened and that the same mindlessness is what put Chicago into further depression. Yes it's done a world of good now and yet the point of if the planes could still continue to land that Chicago would be a bustling place of commerce with 1000s of jobs. Many of the businesses and companies would be huge thriving industries and employ many more than they ever thought. Chicago would literally be a huge tourist attraction due to the airport and would have a much larger footfall now than ever before. The ultimate shame sits on 1 individual believing they're untouchable and will do as they please without repercussions and allow others to pay for the mistakes that 1 individual did. Truly just a shame that was done as with today's technological developments that airport could've been an epicentre of tourism and being in the city as well would have did soo much good its uncalculatable of the what if.
@turkfiles
@turkfiles Месяц назад
Born and raised in Chicago. Left there in the mid 70s, and moved to a western state. Always loved Meigs Field, especially as a kid. When I heard what Daley did, I wasn’t at all shocked by his dictatorial-like handling of the utter destruction of Meigs. Though, maybe a bit surprised, and rather sad.
@davidjernigan8161
@davidjernigan8161 Месяц назад
I see no wilderness. It's just a weed patch
@Greezy42
@Greezy42 Месяц назад
It's "wilderness" in the sense that it has been restored to the natural grassy low sand dune terrain of Chicago's natural lakefront. There are off-trail places especially between the dunes where the city is completely blocked from view and is indeed the closest it gets to wilderness downtown.
@KOOLBadger
@KOOLBadger Месяц назад
​@@Greezy42no, now its all buildings.. Chicago was a swamp..
@Greezy42
@Greezy42 Месяц назад
@@KOOLBadger the inland terrain of Chicago is naturally very flat and swampy, but the lakeshore is naturally sandy, and the lake current and natural sand dynamics made the lakeshore a series of shifting sand bars and low dunes as they were continuously built and eroded, ultimately depositing the sand into high dunes at the south end of Lake Michigan in places like Indiana Dunes National Park. The nature preserve at Northerly Island is a recreation of that low dune terrain but protected by seawalls so it will not erode and shift as it naturally would. Development of the lakefront has also depleted that natural flow of sand so while our beaches continue to be eroded there is not enough incoming sand flow to replenish them and we have to truck in sand from inland to keep our beaches. Another example of the natural shifty lakefront is when the Army showed up to build Fort Dearborn they found the river mouth blocked by a new sandbar that wasnt on their map.
@KOOLBadger
@KOOLBadger Месяц назад
@@Greezy42 My family has been in Chicago for 150 years. I had no choice but to learn Chicago history.. I have been to the dunes in Indiana and the Warren Dunes. Also, I went to camp up by Musgegan, Michigan which is four hours north of Chicago with all those dunes. Chicago was just a huge swamp. It was filled in and made larger with all the debrie from the Chicago Fire. Look up Pleasant Home, Oak Park, Illinois. That is my ancestoral home. My grandmother lived there and my great grandfather is Herbert S.Mills. St. Edmunds Church was built for my great grandmother Leoni Mills.
@Greezy42
@Greezy42 Месяц назад
@@KOOLBadger That's an over-simplification. I don't mean to argue but this is an interesting subject and there's more to it. You are referring to the inland plain of Chicago which is flat and swampy with poor drainage because it got scraped flat by glaciers and was a lake bed when the water levels were higher. The lakeshore is a different terrain type because of wave, current, and wind action interacting with the sand. The south tip of Lake Michigan is not the ONLY place that accumulates high dunes but it is the predominant direction of erosion in the southern half of the lake. The direction does reverse near that part of the opposite shore in Michigan you mentioned. But if you've been to Indiana Dunes then you've stood upon sand that was once part of or flowed past Chicago's lakefront. The part about debris from the Great Fire is partially true but it wasn't enough material to fill a city. It was primarily dumped into the lake to create landfill. The famous "Raising of Chicago" occurred in the two decades before the fire.
@MichaelFairbairn-pk9qg
@MichaelFairbairn-pk9qg Месяц назад
As a businessman, a pilot, and aviation enthusiast, I am incredibly distraught with the loss of meg field. It is, however, not only the loss of the aviation aspect that wrinkles. It is the heavy-handed and unilateral decision and action taken by an elected official without sufficient authority to do what he did. Such a flagrant violation of the Democratic principles on which the country was based has likely never before been seen, perpetrated as it was by the elected officials of the area concerned. If I had a vote, I would apply for funds from the current administration’s infrastructure programs to rebuild Meigs field - and to do so in a way that celebrates aviation and Chicago’s place within that world. it would be a wonderful place to commemorate the pilots who flew in all the major wars, as well as the development and history of the world of powered flight.
@MichaelFairbairn-pk9qg
@MichaelFairbairn-pk9qg Месяц назад
Sorry, autocorrect strikes again! Wrinkles s/b rankles, and of course it is Mieg’s field, not Meg’s.
@8546Ken
@8546Ken 13 дней назад
@@MichaelFairbairn-pk9qg Can't you edit the post?
@eugenekilmer9407
@eugenekilmer9407 Месяц назад
Let's get this straight. It was not a "single runway." It was a single airstrip. Each airstrip has two runways, one running each way: 36 and 18, both 3,900 feet long in this case.
@CCRoselle
@CCRoselle Месяц назад
Do not forget the big ol' 727 landing there back in 1992. Like a big chicken coming into his own little barnyard. On its way to a permanent display at Chicagos Museum of Science and Industry.
@aspensulphate
@aspensulphate Месяц назад
Yes. As stated in the video.
@CCRoselle
@CCRoselle Месяц назад
@@aspensulphate Are you sure?
@ord4r857
@ord4r857 Месяц назад
It could have been like London-City Airport or Washington-National.
@montananerd8244
@montananerd8244 Месяц назад
I love Washington National so much! It’s fantastic when you can hop right into the subway system & get where you need to go!
@johnstone7697
@johnstone7697 Месяц назад
It was way too small, and only suitable for private or very small passenger aircraft.
@pavelow235
@pavelow235 Месяц назад
@@montananerd8244"subway"? ....it's called "Metro".....very disrespectful to DC to call it a "subway"
@tigerphid9677
@tigerphid9677 Месяц назад
Great video... I had always wondered about that airport.
@jamesbooth3360
@jamesbooth3360 Месяц назад
Illegal as heck. No notice to the FAA. Aircraft on the ground were stranded. I used to fly into Meigs in my general aviation airplane when visiting Chicago. It was so cool. It felt like landing on an aircraft carrier or as close as civilians could come. It was unique. Such a loss.
@visionist7
@visionist7 Месяц назад
He should be in prison
@kevinblack3223
@kevinblack3223 Месяц назад
The airport added economic value to the city in the surrounding area. Even the executive traffic was high at one time. The fact that Boeing has their main headquarters in Chicago they would be using the airport as well. Sad to see it go it was a plus.
@sethcopeland4362
@sethcopeland4362 Месяц назад
Milwaukee also had an airport along Lake Michigan, Maitland Airport, which was eventually converted into a Nike Missile installation. It's now the Summerfest grounds.
@Schmidty530
@Schmidty530 17 дней назад
As someone who got held up in traffic forever for the President to travel from Ohare to Soldier Field, the preferred option would have been for VIPs to land directly there. What a waste and inconvenience 🤦🏻‍♀️
@BGTuyau
@BGTuyau Месяц назад
Nice research -and apparently still done from Poland. Bravo!
@robertwittjr1198
@robertwittjr1198 Месяц назад
"the pen is mightier that the sword" guy got smart and brought a bulldozer instead.
@FadeToBlackLLC
@FadeToBlackLLC 23 дня назад
I remember going to the McKormick Center for car shows and seeing the Xs on the runway. Crazy!
@hattrick2219
@hattrick2219 Месяц назад
When Bill Lear had his avionics business in Chicago, Meigs was his home field. He used his aircraft to test fly his many ideas.
@leonardkrol2600
@leonardkrol2600 Месяц назад
I used to ride my bike to the lakefront, The end point was Miegs Field. I would buy a can of coke and sometimes I would see an aircraft take off or land. Great fun. The third most popular public event in Chicago was the open day at Miegs. This was paid for and manned by volunteers.The tax payers did not have to pay a penny. The airfield was wrecked at the same time that Millinual park opened. Was Daley afraid of competition?The airport was build because the area was overrun by hobos and bums. I visited the place a few tears ago. They are coming back. The field is an isolated place and is hard to visit. In winter,it is very cold This is a terrible place for public events, but would make a great airport. (More coming)
@19MAD95
@19MAD95 Месяц назад
What are you talking about? Of course it cost taxpayer money. You think people just worked there out of the goodness of their hearts?
@leonardkrol2600
@leonardkrol2600 Месяц назад
@@19MAD95 Volunteers worked at the open house for free, not the airport employees. Unlike the St Patrick day parade where people are paid to take part.
@BradHouser
@BradHouser Месяц назад
As someone who had the first Flight Simulator on the original IBM PC, I have taken off from Meigs Field many times, as it was the place the simulation began. Sad to see it no longer serves its purpose. Good luck getting a small airport that close to a major downtown like that again. There's progress, and then there's this. It's one thing to return the salt ponds of the San Francisco Bay back to marsh land. The loss of cheap salt to Cargill is nothing compared to the opportunity cost of not having that airport with a high end clientele, who obviously benefited from it being there. Do I think Daley was heavy handed? Of course he was. After all, his father was notorious and was the one who said "vote early, vote often". As a target for terrorists, the airport would seem to be low on the list of potential targets if you look at potential losses, so the security excuse is lame.
@visionist7
@visionist7 Месяц назад
I'm surprised he didn't screech about the adjacent marina as another "rich man's toy" in his own words
@c182SkylaneRG
@c182SkylaneRG Месяц назад
@@visionist7 Right? I keep seeing comments about "the noise" and "the eyesore", but the marina right there would be creating just as much noise, and be just as much of an eyesore. And as loud as a downtown urban area tends to be, I'm amazed that anyone who wasn't listening for it could even tell that there was an airport there.
@aspensulphate
@aspensulphate Месяц назад
Funny how "terrorism" has destroyed so much infrastructure without a single terrorist.
@SpeakingTruth99999
@SpeakingTruth99999 19 дней назад
Great piece, another dimension- I wonder how much influence did ORD related business lobbies had on shutting it down.
@danilomcg
@danilomcg Месяц назад
Hey, back here in Rio we still have SDU, which is Rio’s major domestic airport ! Not an island, but quite similar in some sense and right in downtown
@daewooparts
@daewooparts Месяц назад
The FAA should have grounded all of the City of Chicago aircraft as payback including helicopters 🚁 & government owned planes ... if they owned OHare it too should have been shut down or forced to sell any city government interest
@visionist7
@visionist7 Месяц назад
I would have framed it as a terrorist attack on the airport
@wapartist
@wapartist Месяц назад
Never knew that was even there… how cool must that have been to land right next to the stadium
@brj_han
@brj_han Месяц назад
Not only Soldier Field, but the Shedd Aquarium, Adler Planetarium and the Field Museum...
@jerryklatt6494
@jerryklatt6494 Месяц назад
Did you mention Meigs was right next to McCormick Convention Center, largest in North America. We would fly in from Cleveland, take a shuttle to the convention and be there in 15 min.
@ntatenarin
@ntatenarin Месяц назад
9:06 I love that bottom plan! Extra parking, bridge, plus a reef?!?
@wingrider687
@wingrider687 Месяц назад
I remember driving through Chicago that morning and hearing on WLS that a fleet of bulldozers had just arrived at Meigs Field and were destroying it. That was about 3 in the morning… totally shady but then again so was Mayor Daley!
@peteklein630
@peteklein630 Месяц назад
Please, allow an aging Boomer to put it this way. Meigs was COOL!
@FuelTheConqueror
@FuelTheConqueror Месяц назад
Very interesting story!
@johnbeck2797
@johnbeck2797 Месяц назад
I once took Chicago Helicopter Airways from Midway Field to Meig's field. I'm not surprised that Mayor Dailey essentially used force to grant his own wish rather than to proceed through channels.
@ConvairDart106
@ConvairDart106 Месяц назад
I used to fly into Meigs a lot for day trips. I do no understand the noise complaints as you had to be gone by 10 pm or stay the night once you crossed riverside drive, all one could hear was the city traffic, horns and gunfire. Ironic to me that those who paved over an entire city would complain that there is no wildlife either!
@brad325is
@brad325is Месяц назад
Correct :) I had to turn many planes back to parking for the night, until 6am, if they were not wheels up by 10pm. The only aircraft that could use it after 10pm was the on field fire and rescue helicopters.
@DT-wp4hk
@DT-wp4hk Месяц назад
As non American I do like your vids about American history. Fascinating.👍 No. A lot of mayors are ruining cities, traditions and lifes these days. Sind 911 it has gotten in a lot of places.
@joeg5414
@joeg5414 Месяц назад
Anyone that played early Microsoft Flight sim knows all about Meigs Field
@cameron.t
@cameron.t Месяц назад
I would love a similar video about the old Stapleton Airport. There is sooo little collected information about it. Only able to find disparate bits and bobs
@IamME-h5w
@IamME-h5w Месяц назад
The first airplane landed in Grants park. _If it landed there today? It would be _*_STRIPPED CLEAN_*_ before the engine was shut down!_
@doomsdayrabbit4398
@doomsdayrabbit4398 Месяц назад
Yeah. By the trees as it came down.
@ROGER2095
@ROGER2095 Месяц назад
There's a big market in Chicago for airplane hub caps!
@marktoken6052
@marktoken6052 Месяц назад
😂😂
@alexandergunaka666
@alexandergunaka666 Месяц назад
No it would have to take 15 minute drive first. Obviously never been here.
@davidharris2519
@davidharris2519 Месяц назад
the 727 that is at the Museum of Science and Industry landed at CGX
@aspensulphate
@aspensulphate Месяц назад
Yes. As stated in the video.
@cd7652
@cd7652 Месяц назад
Daley was rumored to want to give the preceding improvement contract to a family company.
@MrSimondrury
@MrSimondrury Месяц назад
I flew in once from across the lake in Michigan on a private charter. Incredible feeling looking UP at the tall buildings that felt nearby.
@Guillotines_For_Globalists
@Guillotines_For_Globalists Месяц назад
Back when visiting the city was decent rather than like driving through Fallujah, it was enjoyable to cycle on the lakefront near the planetarium and watch the aircraft takeoff and land.
@frankklimas5347
@frankklimas5347 Месяц назад
Should have kept it an airport. Chicago has lots of parks
@marktoken6052
@marktoken6052 Месяц назад
It's now just another open space for muggers to operate.
@Bobdabuulder
@Bobdabuulder Месяц назад
I was just at northerly last month for a music festival - Beyond Wonderland Chicago. You are correct, the skyline behind the stages makes for a beautiful scene. Would love to see development
@Yobabywhatscrackin
@Yobabywhatscrackin Месяц назад
Citys in the Western United States, it is common to have Airports located towards the middle of the city
@bugie7872
@bugie7872 Месяц назад
Rish people only thinking of their own, not thinking about all the people making a living from the airport.
@HuckleBerry927
@HuckleBerry927 Месяц назад
Little Richie did it because Maggie wanted another park...
@smorgasbroad1132
@smorgasbroad1132 Месяц назад
She was so medicated she probably saw Unicorns. Glazed eyes and permanent grin. Too out of it to stand up, I only ever saw her sitting in a chair.
@HuckleBerry927
@HuckleBerry927 Месяц назад
@@smorgasbroad1132 Maybe because she was battling cancer ? Little thing like that?
@stude1965
@stude1965 Месяц назад
I remember hearing back then that she hated it therefore it had to go by hook or crook.
@rickshemansky3350
@rickshemansky3350 Месяц назад
@@smorgasbroad1132 ⁹
@joem5639
@joem5639 Месяц назад
I landed at Meigs when I was a private pilot in a Piper Warrior. Returned a few years later when I was flying charter in King Airs and Citation jets. It was a neat airport. If you want a similar experience today you’ll need to fly to Burke Lakefront airport in Cleveland.
@markbajek2541
@markbajek2541 Месяц назад
It was nice to watch operations from Mccormick during a break if you were at a convention.. Just step out for a bit with a drink or a smoke and watch em come n go.
@Maaaatttttt
@Maaaatttttt Месяц назад
I remember Meigs field
@ghoffmann821
@ghoffmann821 Месяц назад
This was basically a felony.
@hoytoy100
@hoytoy100 Месяц назад
New York and London have airports that are essentially in the city center, as does DC and Boston.
@brad325is
@brad325is Месяц назад
I was a controller there and transferred shortly before the midnight raid. Some of my friends still worked there when it happened. When they showed up to open the tower the next morning, they were not allowed passed the gate and turned away. Fun times working there and a beautiful view. On breaks, I would fish in the harbor right behind the tower.
@jangles1839
@jangles1839 Месяц назад
They need to be concentrated & concerned about fixing the rampant crime issues they have above anything else
@frankgellenthin3733
@frankgellenthin3733 Месяц назад
Sad that Meigs Field was turned into a park indistinguishable from New Jersey wasteland. Was never there except in the 1980's Microsoft Flight Simulator.
@thromboid
@thromboid Месяц назад
I was a pretty avid player of Sublogic Flight Simulator II on Apple II and Atari 8-bit, before Microsoft acquired it, and had no idea about the fate of the iconic Meigs Field, so this was pretty fascinating. The Chicago scenery didn't feature much other than the Hancock Center and Sears Tower - names which are also now historical.
@BoeingJetJockey
@BoeingJetJockey Месяц назад
I visited Chicago in 1993 after I’ve just completed my flight training in California. First place I really wanted to visit there was, of course, Meigs field. I’ve been taking offs and landings thousands of times there in Microsoft Flight Simulator back when the graphics was still very poor (MSFS 3.0 & 4.0 on Intel80486). I kept flying there in MSFS even during my first decade in airline years all the way till MSFS 2002. I remembered read about bulldozing the runway in papers. What a sad day. I’ve been flying for over three decades now and this clip brings back a lot of memories. In five years time I will be retired. When that happens, I would probably starts flying MSFS again (with a thousand fold better graphics).
@lauridsd
@lauridsd Месяц назад
As a big fan of Chicago, and a massive aviation enthusiast (I am a licensed private pilot,) I was (and am still) angry about the clandestine and sudden closure of Meigs Field. It was a bucket list item to fly there for me, which will never be realized. As others have stated, probably my first introduction to the field (other than seeing it on regular visits to the Field Museum, Adler Planetarium, and Shedd Aquarium, was as the default starting location in Microsoft Flight Simulator from as far back as my family's Apple II+ computer. I'm still bitter about this as the resulting park was unnecessary as Chicago already has an amazing array of lakefront parks. I understand the resistance to the noise and pollution of an airport, but Meigs was simply too cool not to keep going.
@patrickstewart3446
@patrickstewart3446 Месяц назад
I’m just surprised that the “park” was built rather than upscale condos. Given the lack of trees, I suspect this is still a future intention. Less stuff to clear.
@MagsonDare
@MagsonDare Месяц назад
IIRC, Chicago has a law that no residential buildings can be east of Lake Shore Drive, with the Lake Point Tower apartment bldg being the 1 notable exception to that. I moved out of thie Chicago area in 1999, though, so I don't hvae any idea if I'm remembering that right or if it's changed or what, though.
@brj_han
@brj_han Месяц назад
@@MagsonDare Right. It's called the Burnham Plan. In effect since 1909...
@adambahe9309
@adambahe9309 27 дней назад
I live right down here and often use Northerly Island for a getaway. 12th street beach is a little cove with a nice little eatery. And you can go for walks here and be truly alone. Its a great slice of downtown that was sorely needed, especially given how NASCAR, Lollapalooza, and other events now take over Grant Park all summer.
@timdearborn5397
@timdearborn5397 29 дней назад
My friend work for the Chicago Airport Police at the time. (While that might not be the official name, Chicago had a totally separate police force just for their airports.). While he normally worked at O’Hare, on that fateful night he was ordered to go to Meigs Field. He had no idea why at the time. The mayor had evidently requested a large police presence to insure that his nightly demolition was able to proceed unhindered.
@spddiesel
@spddiesel Месяц назад
Well, that Peotone airport is gonna get started any day now, so...
@m.e.5482
@m.e.5482 Месяц назад
Gary Airport serves as Chicago's 3rd airport.
@Greezy42
@Greezy42 Месяц назад
​@@m.e.5482 depends on the type of airport. There's also nearby Dupage Airport, and Chicago Executive Airport (formerly Palwaukee), which are more comparable to Meigs in size and role, for example the Presidential helicopter group used to operate from Meigs now the operate from Dupage.
@ryanfilipoff8784
@ryanfilipoff8784 Месяц назад
Been living in Beecher for more than 20 years, and for all that time they’ve been talking about building that damn peotone airport. Heard much less of it when Jesse Jackson Jr. tried staging a grown breaking ceremony and got chased out.
@m.e.5482
@m.e.5482 Месяц назад
@@ryanfilipoff8784 why would they do that when Gary is 5 minutes away from Chicago n peotone is an hour plus? Doesn't make sense in da cornfields/boonies unless its 4 Joliet people.
@spddiesel
@spddiesel Месяц назад
@@ryanfilipoff8784 that airport has been pie in the sky BS for decades; nobody's wanted the damn thing except the politicians set to make millions off it.
@Hobotraveler82
@Hobotraveler82 Месяц назад
It's Chicago. Enough said.
@garysprandel1817
@garysprandel1817 Месяц назад
Conveniently a rail line that passed near Hizzoner's house about the same time had city inspectors find an amazing number of bridges on the line suddenly condemned as unsafe. The line was part of the two bascule bridges over the Chicago River south of Union Station. Bridges are historic landmarks and cannot be touched but just west of the bridges first street you get it was stub of the right of way on the east side shopping center with a Target on the former rail property to the west
@Holy_Moley
@Holy_Moley Месяц назад
Grew up playing earlier versions of Flight Sim, taking off from Meigs and flying to and landing at Ohare.
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