Why Chris Evans' cameo WORKS and John Krasinski's SUCKS 

And unfortunately we're stuck with Pedro FAWK

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@@igg7865 I am sorry but Pedro doesn't suit Reed, he should have been given another role in Marvel

@@robloxfellowI do not see this man as reed… but DOOM … there is potential

@@robloxfellowforge in some x men reboot tbh

Yeah, I don't know what this guy's on about.

@@mrplushkingI think he’s talking about the post credits scene. It made his cameo all the more funnier and a lot of people got to talking about him again.

I agree. I genuinely liked the old fantastic four movies only due to Johnny

It did

"Mr Headcannon" is full of it

Spaghetti and meatballs

@@redram6080 Fantastic!

@@redram6080 dammit, you beat me to it!

Human Torch: mortal kombat fatality Mr. Fantastic: turned into spaghetti

The Thing: 🪑

But the seriousness of Wolverine vs the sassy Deadpool is a good comedic duo

@@Sir-Pleiades True

That’s exactly why it worked

@@Sir-Pleiades Deadpool could work with anybody . Especially considering he can break the 4th wall n his jokes never misses .

I’m not sure why he took it so seriously considering he’s probably killed 10x as many people lol

NAURRR

He became lasagna bologna

Truly a fantastic delicacy

thats crazyyyy

@@bigalgames7963 so The Thing is destined to become lasagna.

I guess he was Kraven something else

I’m pretty sure the lawyers killed him

@@josukeuchiha 😂😂😂😂

@@josukeuchiha hahaha that's great. 😂

Unalived?

Bro become a pasta in a second

You missed the part where Reed is talking abour Incursions. Giving exposition and such. We are still dealing with it so no you are wrong

@@toyanthaog5109 that's for longterm, in the movie even credit scene we still don't know the visual of the incursion. His point is still valid, Reed's death serves no purpose in the film. We already saw how powerful Wanda is when she attacks Kamar-taj. Strange warns them about Scarlet Witch, so why do they still want to talk it out? In serious scene they made it like a joke.

​@@toyanthaog5109name one timeline that we see destroyed by an incursion. Because i havent seen any go yet making his lore dump irrelavent.

This can be said about both characters they are the same trope

It's even better the second time you watch the movie for this exact reason! All the times DP talks about Johnny, and says Gambit and he must have gotten along because of their weirdly specific profane comments. It's completely woven into the story and hilarious

I think the joke flew over our heads. I think deadpool literally pulls an alternate universe where Johnny says those things as if you notice he stares straight at the camera before he does the speech

What was he supposed to do against magic?

@@poodie3887 Not say who is their strongest member and how he will kill her if she try something ? Like, how the fuck did he think it was a good idea ?

@@poodie3887Not attack her head on. Xavier wasn’t charging her head on either, because that would be stupid. Something that someone smart shouldn’t be doing.

It isn't Deadpool's fault

⁠​⁠@@poodie3887 Reed Richards is one of the greatest minds in Marvel. He would've thought of something. Not to mention the fact that he thought only 5 people could beat the most powerful sorceress and plus what the other two said. Tell me bringing only 4 people to an actual fight and leaving one telepath to mess with the most powerful sorceresses' head is a good idea. Reed Richards would've known to bring a lot more, y'know like a sorcerer supreme or every sorcerer or literally an entire army of heroes to beat someone who can alter all of reality just by saying what she want to happen. Maybe even the Infinity Watch to reunite the stones and snap her out of existence since she is in their universe which means their stones can work on her, maybe even bring out some villains to help. Now that would be a true Multiverse of Madness

But he was acting like comic reed richards.

​@@hawks7111not when his talk about black powers to wanda, when he is smartest man alive.

I was surprised to learn this after watching the movie a few weeks back.

Yeah, but it’s also shown that Pyro can’t beat Johnny in a fist fight though.

@Standby_JRB Yes and no... Pyro has defeated Johnny Storm a few times, but the comics also have Johnny learning how to counter Pyro over time. Eventually, Pyro has very little chance of besting Johnny in a fight. Johnny can heat himself up to supernova levels, which would fry Pyro. He can project heat without flame, which would also fry Pyro. He can also burn so hot that he becomes plasma, which Pyro has very little control over. Some decent counter options. But... this is the first time that this particular Johnny has ever straight-up fought Pyro... so it makes sense that he'd lose. Also, it was done for comedic effect. Made me sad to see him die, but at least the film treats him with respect later on. Wolverine is angry at Deadpool for getting Johnny killed, and the refugee heroes clearly care about him... so much so that his death motivates them to join Deadpool and attack Cassandra.

@@JoseNolasco-sz1oxdid they fist fight…

@@Ingel_Riday6690 Also I assume Johnny storm would learn not to use said fire powers to fly around pyro.

Seriously, that is what's called burnout. Pedro Pascal burnout.

He's the Nolan North of Disney at this point

When I saw MOM, I thought he was going to play Mr. Fantastic in other films, I was crushed to find out otherwise

Yeah that's why I'm sad about Henry Cavil's Wolverine cameo cause I think he'd be a great actor for the MCU Wolverine but we know they not gonna do it.

Pedro Pascal definitely not Reed Richards

So you're fine with Deadpool having no real plot and just being gutless fanservice and you get mad that Dr Strange 2 had a plot. Okey-Dokey...

@@ShadowSonic2 Deadpool is just Deadpool, it works. The character, the game made around it, the comics, and the movies. Not a single one has ever flopped, bec it's just Deadpool. You can't say the same thing about a movie with lackluster cameos (the only two good ones being snuffed out in minutes) and completely circulated around the Scarlet Witch. The movie is called Doctor Strange 2, not Scarlet Witch, WandaVision already gave us a healthy dose of Wanda and what happened to her post-Infinity War.

​@@ShadowSonic2you call that(MoM) shit- plot? They fcuked Stephen Strange's character

Well said

​@@ShadowSonic2cope harder bud 😂

Krasinski said he'd only do one appearance as Reed and not a continuing role, that's why they went with Pedro

No bro Krasinski simply refused to be Reed and only did the cameo as a favor because of how popular fancasting had gotten. Why do you guys never take into account if the actors even want to play the character or not? Samething with the guy everybody wanted to play Doom, like he just doesn’t want too. Because the F4 movie is taking place in a different dimension so Krasinski could have still played Reed if he wanted too anyway.

@@Byronic19134 I didn't know that. Thanks.

@@ShadowSonic2He never said that, Marvel never gave him the option to come back. Quote him saying he only wanted to play Reed once.

@@Byronic19134He never refused to play Reed again lmao, where do you guys get this stuff? If you actually believe that then quote it.

Johnny was pretty crucial for his two movies climaxes.

it was disney actually who forced marvel to let X-23 come to the premium

Although in comics you have to admit, for a smart guy, he's made some pretty stupid decisions.

Yeah, let’s inform the enemy the name of the move my teammate is going to use, surely it won’t bite us back.

Exactly and johnny Storm is kinda hothead at the same time

Welcome to comics

She had a team supporting her. She didn't do it alone.

It's also not the what if version of captain carter so

If they wanted to kill him off, they should of made him stretch around Wanda and wrap himself around her, buying time for the others to escape. Everyone knows when you want to kill off a fan favorite character, it’s gotta go in a way of self sacrifice, killing of hundreds of minions/big bad, or as a plot point for introducing a new villain.

not to mention, this the first time she came on live-action with the suit

Did you just call it deadpool vs wolverine DvW it's deadpool AND wolverine

@@user-bj9vz9ig4v Sorry, typing on phone is hard, I fixed it

Well said friend !!!👏👏

Wrong. Krasinski cameo did work, the entire premise of saying his cameo didn’t work is just a lie. His bit explaining incursions has been one of the most important and reused clips since Endgame. On top of his death just being amazing when you first watch the movie because you don’t think Wanda is about to go that hard, but she does.

​@@Byronic19134 I would love to see John Again as Mr.Fantastic but as a main character!! He deserves a lot of screen time!!

​@@Byronic19134she only goes hard on everyone except the character she is supposed to go hard at. If they make a movie of 2hrs about plot holes and ridiculous writing of doctor strange 2 it'll turn out way better than the movie itself

😂

Well it is the multiverse.

it is Disney..right?

Reed Richards giving away key information due to his overconfidence? No that would never ever happen

I don’t care for Pedro Pescal as an actor after he got all political and compared half the country to nazis because they are different thinkers to him. I’d much rather have John and Emily as Reed and Sue (since they did in fact kill it in quite place) but Emily didn’t want to do superhero movies. So whatever, fuck the fantastic four, I hope that film flops hard.

​@@geeebuttersnap2433Please go outside and become a normal human being

Lol

Exactly

Hey, nobody cares

Perhaps it's the cinematic version of 199999 since you know it's not completely identical to 616 anyway

@@Prolificx Well MCU was 199999 originaly, then idiots from Disney that heared smth about 616 decided that it would be fun to name it earth 616

Krasinski said he wouldn't do more than 1 appearance, that's why

RIGHT ?!?!?!?!

mmiskarian2206 Krasinski apparently wasn’t interested in investing to the character long term. Playing a role like Reed Richards would’ve been a MASSIVE commitment long term. Given all the directing and producing Krasinski does now, I doubt he could’ve done that on top of playing one of Marvel’s most important characters

I think the real question is: How strong is Pyro's ability to manipulate fire? Can he contain a nuclear explosion? Human Torch's fire is supposed to be so strong he can go supernova. That's why some fans believe Human Torch can overpower Pyro.

@@LeedleLee457 simple, there are strong as the writers need to be.

No, Johnny high diffs Pyro. Even without his flame, Pyro’s fire can’t melt his skin off in his human form, because his fire is weaker. He may have more control over it, but not more output like Johnny or basically anybody whose fire is weaker than Johnny’s cannot melt or hurt him. Even so, Johnny always beat Pyro in hand-to-hand combat situations time and time again. Johnny clears, albeit high difficulty because Pyro has proven himself a powerful adversary. It’s just funny to see that the MCU nerfed Johnny to oblivion, but they did it for a good reason.

Dude when you consider their power they are not even in same rank,Human Torch should wipe the floor with Pyro every time,he is immune to heat and fire while Pyro is only immune to the flames he controls and he cant generate flames. All the Human Torch needs to do to win is just stand close by and raise his temperature to the point where Pyro just melts or suffocates.

These are variants. They don't have to follow the cannon of the main universe.

@@Scarlet_moon. so true

No bruv it was cus Chris Evans was taking a toll on movie's budget

@@BabaSmeone Deadpool is a hardcore fan of Captain America, so it's not surprising for him to snitch on Johnny because he subverted his expectations.

It was because Johnny said he could be quoted on what he had said.

even then the human torch WAS the main character in the fantastic 4 movie when Chris evens said “it’s clobbering time”

@@ChristHoon you didn’t see the post credit scene ?

The point doesn't quite work out when you realise to understand Channing Tatum's Gambit cameo you had to be on the fandom to get it too. It was just as much anticipated as Krasinski, but the difference is it paid off.

Op is right. I think John as reed and didn't even know Tatum was a gambit, those casting choices make me retch. The fans have zero taste and sense.

Please 😂, Doctor Strange 2 neg diffs Deadpool and Wolverine in terms of how well-written the plot is. I liked Deadpool and Wolverine, I really did, but the cameos were the cover up for how messy the plot really is.

​@@misterflibble2931Wrong, the cameos were to cover up for the awful writing in Doctor Strange 2, Doctor Strange Multiverse of Madness is such a terrible film.

I believe you're right, Sir.

@@misterflibble2931 such a good plot that the character motivations had to literally be presented via a “memory tv player” that makes no sense and a Wanda who’s entire goal makes no sense when she can just hop to a universe that doesn’t have a Wanda and play mommy there instead of trauma-genociding over her make-belief children.

@@YouMissed2024 No it's not. It's better written than most of Phases 1 and 2 were.

@shawngillespie3532 What? You're telling me you don't like the fact that the Smartest Man Alive told Wanda what Black Bolt's power was, thereby giving her an opportunity to counter it or stop him from using it? Get out of here. 😤

Unfortunately a character can only be as smart as the person who wrote them. Even if the writer can give them more "knowledge" and "reactive thinking speed", they can't really improve the character's intelligence above their own. It's kind of like sci-fi films in general. They don't take into account problems related to actual physics because the writers never realized certain things are problems. For example, Ironman falling from the wormhole should've died regardless of whether Hulk caught him or not. The only difference is that he should've snapped in half upon hitting Hulk's arm instead of being turned into canned mush when hitting the ground.

FanPASTic 4

Myself + Wanda = 🌭

Ha ha ha ha ha ha it's really it's the most real authentic laugh of my entire life

Same

I was happy to see Jim Halpert and then they killed him off in the worst way possible.

Tickets literally sold out the week they went on sale

Psylocke.

@@Xavier.living.life. 👍

Chris Evans

Ayesha Hussain

A mirror

Why ?

Yeah, the making of this movie is kinda a mess, would explain why it's plot is kinda barebones

Now that sounds yummy

Krasinski said he wasn't interested in more than a cameo appearance

Probably not gonna be more than another cameo at this point since Pedro pascal is playing him in the new F4 movie.

@@aregularhorrorfan4184I swear to god if I see pedo pascal in one more thing bro

@@aregularhorrorfan4184pedro* that was not intentional…

Gutless fanservice with no plot?

⁠@@ShadowSonic2nah MoM already was that

No, it’s the Disney-vers

It is supposed to be higher actually.

Reed Richards is the smartest character in Marvel comics. He's way smarter than Iron Man

*Smartest man alive* meme